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How Your Playboy Centerfold Sausage Is Made (NSFW)

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posted by Joe Beese (78 comments total) 18 users marked this as a favorite

 
Boobs are weird.

Even with all the editing, it's nice that they don't all read "render down to two pink orbs with dots in the middle."
posted by phunniemee at 2:57 PM on December 10, 2010


I think it's safe to say that men who are interested in women as they really are don't buy Playboy. It's only about the fantasy, so why not have the best fantasy possible?
posted by Capt. Renault at 3:00 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


It's not so much about being interested in 'women as they really are'. It's more that the whole PBCF thing (and massive amount of associated softcore on the internets) basically falls into the uncanny valley. The women just look ... too weird, man.
posted by unSane at 3:04 PM on December 10, 2010 [3 favorites]


Heh, they said sausage.

Heh heh.

Sausage.
posted by idiopath at 3:04 PM on December 10, 2010 [3 favorites]


If there is sausage in the Playboy centerfold, somebody really fucked up.
posted by wierdo at 3:05 PM on December 10, 2010 [18 favorites]


or got lucky
posted by unSane at 3:06 PM on December 10, 2010 [4 favorites]


You know, I have noticed the nipples on the models in Playboy today are oddly homogenous. Not in a good way either. I'm not a fan of the large pancake areolas with a little dot of a nipple in the middle.

I do like reading the articles in the magazine, and perhaps their future may lie in becoming more of a lifestyle magazine and cutting out the "porn" aspect of it. The Internet gives you way more than Playboy ever can for free.
posted by reenum at 3:06 PM on December 10, 2010 [3 favorites]


Is it just me or did we suddenly find ourselves in an episode of Beavis and Butthead? I'm OK with that but I'd like to know.
posted by unSane at 3:07 PM on December 10, 2010 [2 favorites]


Heh.

Sausage.
posted by idiopath at 3:08 PM on December 10, 2010 [5 favorites]


Same as it ever was.
Back in college (the 70's!), my design class got to tour the Playboy offices in Chicago. They were marking-up proofs exactly like this back then. And always have. Truth be told, photography is handled like this in any publication or advertisement. It's part of the illusion we sell. The big difference now, of course, is Photoshop. Back then, those same edits had to be done by a master re-toucher. If you've never watched a guy retouch a transparency!!!, you have not sat in the shadow of a god.
posted by Thorzdad at 3:08 PM on December 10, 2010 [7 favorites]


Even with all the editing, it's nice that they don't all read "render down to two pink orbs with dots in the middle."

Didn't they have a cartoon issue a while back? Oh, here it is.
posted by LogicalDash at 3:08 PM on December 10, 2010


Anyway, I like nudity better when it's got strange poses, backgrounds, and props. When it's interesting as graphic design, basically.
posted by LogicalDash at 3:13 PM on December 10, 2010


Boopsie poses for Playboy [1979]
posted by chavenet at 3:13 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


True story: I was once in a very seedy bar in Toronto (anyone who lives in the Beach will instantly know which one I mean) with a friend of mine and there was a half-dressed woman sitting at the next booth. I say half-dressed because she was wearing a black leather dress with a lot of holes in it, and black stilettos. She was also drunk and very loud.

Anyway, my friend casually tells me that she is a former PBCF. Not only that, but he gives me the year and month. I was oddly impressed and at the same time troubled by that.

We ended up having a few drinks with her and her blousy friend but it wasn't that much fun and much to my friend's dismay it did not end up with sausage in the centerfold.

(There is another story about him and a chick from Star Trek TNG but it will have to wait for another day as he will recognize himself too easily in it).
posted by unSane at 3:15 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


Finally. My two fetishes are realized: 1) pictures of nekkid women and 2) proof readers marks.
posted by quadog at 3:16 PM on December 10, 2010 [14 favorites]


This goes on in all porn mags, and is one of those reasons that you quickly become numb to porn mag porn if you work at a porn mag.
posted by klangklangston at 3:19 PM on December 10, 2010 [3 favorites]


There is another story about him and a chick from Star Trek TNG

ZOMG if it's Deanna Troi I'll DIE!

On point, is anyone surprised? Not a single Playboy model even looks real anyway. I was hoping to see more of something like the Dove evolution ad from a while back.
posted by King Bee at 3:20 PM on December 10, 2010


WON'T SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE NIPPLES!
posted by nola at 3:26 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


*collects the nipples into a cardboard box* "Where you want 'em?"
posted by LogicalDash at 3:30 PM on December 10, 2010 [5 favorites]


From the link:

"It's not that post-production is always terrible — the models likely appreciated that the stray hairs and odd shadows were edited out. ("Kill single hair that touches cigar," is an example of this). But the message is clear: even after a genetic bounty, all-but-certain plastic surgery and dieting, good lighting, a pro-photographer, and dozens of shots, even the fantasy woman is not fantastic enough. Ironically, it's that mentality, and its cookie-cutter sexual sensibility, that's helped make Playboy irrelevant in the years since."
posted by ReWayne at 3:32 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


Even with all the editing, it's nice that they don't all read "render down to two pink orbs with dots in the middle."

Ironically, phunniemee, that used to be one of the "tells" of a boob job: the nipples were too centered. Mother Nature doesn't work that closely with symmetry: most girls are wall-eyed and demurely cast their nether eyes downward, below the neckline.

Plastic surgeons are getting better. Any day now they'll be offering just a hint of sag...
posted by IAmBroom at 3:34 PM on December 10, 2010


I'm not a fan of the large pancake areolas with a little dot of a nipple in the middle.

Please, tell us more about what kind of nipples you like, so that we may strive to improve them for you.
posted by naoko at 3:43 PM on December 10, 2010 [41 favorites]


True story. I was born so perfectly formed, I went to a plastic surgeon to have a hint of sag added just for verisimilitude.
posted by found missing at 3:43 PM on December 10, 2010 [8 favorites]


"Ironically, it's that mentality, and its cookie-cutter sexual sensibility, that's helped make Playboy irrelevant in the years since."

Word. I find myself more attracted to women that are less of the cookie-cutter variety. Perhaps their nose is a bit larger or a bit crooked than the "perfect" button nose. Perhaps their teeth are a bit wonky. Maybe their hair gets frizzy, maybe they have this or that.

I'm not trying to suggest that I am deep, or a better person, because I'm not overly fond of the blonde cheerleader type. I simply have a different type, and my tastes encompass a bit of imperfection that tends to highlight the overall beauty. And I still appreciate beauty in general, at least as defined by me.
posted by X-Himy at 3:44 PM on December 10, 2010


I'm looking forward to reading more about what kind of women people here find attractive.
posted by found missing at 3:49 PM on December 10, 2010 [23 favorites]


Fair point found missing. It doesn't really come across in my previous entry. What I'm trying to say is different strokes for different folks. That in relentlessly pushing a similar looking ideal of the female form is injurious both to ideas of sexuality, and to Playboy. I have no particular love for Playboy and wouldn't shed a tear if they went away. But I think they dug their own grave by not including a bit more variety in their centerfolds, especially when the Internet provides.
posted by X-Himy at 3:52 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


Last night I was at the grocery store standing there with my bacon and my beer and I looked up at the tabloid rack. There were two "photographs" of Michael Douglas. The People one had this guy who made me feel really gross it was so perfect. Then the one on the (I believe) Star had him looking like a decomposing cadaver. Same guy. Two different camera-> post processing setups.
posted by bukvich at 3:54 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


Last night at a dinner party I sat next to Victor Lownes, who co-founded the Playboy Clubs and was Vice President of Playboy, in at the very start of the magazine.

Wikipediaing him today my eyes bugged out at this sentence, "It was said that he used to have five girls a day, sometimes two at a time." Crikey! And I can only imagine that some of the women he was with were those extraordinary beauties pictured in the OP.

At dinner I didn't know who he was and tried to make friendly dinner conversation. He seemed particularly vacant, a bit morose, unable or unwilling to converse with anyone and once he finished his meal, immediately took out his cellphone and started playing Solitaire with intensity.

When I asked him about his life, he said with a strange little smile that he'd grown up in Buffalo, NY then Florida from the age of 10. At 14 he asked to be sent to military school in New Mexico because he wanted to fight. I asked if it was in the Vietnam War and he said to my surprise no, it was in World War II. He looked younger than 82. But then the war ended before he was eligible to see any military action and he didn't have any direction. His brother, younger by 6 years, died at the age of 29 in a car accident, teaching a young girl to drive.

I tried to engage him by asking what his favorite places in the world were and he said he had a house in Belgravia, London. There was a sort of finality to the way he said it and I despaired we could chat in a relaxed way.

It was then the friend who invited me told me that the woman sitting next to Victor was his wife and had been a Playboy bunny. Apparently she is philanthropic now. And then he told me who Victor was. I wish there'd been a computer to Google him so I could have asked him better questions earlier on. When I found out who he was I did ask him if he'd enjoyed being part of the Playboy empire. He looked up for a moment from his cellphone Solitaire and some deep spark came into those tired eyes, he nodded vigorously and smiled.
posted by nickyskye at 3:56 PM on December 10, 2010 [15 favorites]


You know, I have noticed the nipples on the models in Playboy today are oddly homogenous.

I don't pretend to understand how men think, but it floors me that someone would actually have scrutinized naked pictures enough to hold this view.
posted by msconduct at 4:00 PM on December 10, 2010 [2 favorites]


I don't pretend to understand how men think, but it floors me that someone would actually have scrutinized naked pictures enough to hold this view.

Uh, or maybe reenum is just a perceptive person? You'd be amazed at how many people are not detail oriented in the slightest. I guess either you're one of them or you've never seen a Playboy mag in your life. I'm a female, I do not seek out Playboy or Playboy type porn but I have actually come to the same conclusion on my own. Reenum isn't some creep sitting in some dimly lit basement with a magnifying glass meticulously scrutinizing every Playboy magazine in existence. "AHA! I have made a discovery! All of these NEEPLES are HOMOGENOUS! I must go and inform the world!" Maybe you should lighten up a bit.
posted by MaryDellamorte at 4:20 PM on December 10, 2010 [15 favorites]


I'm looking forward to reading more about what kind of women people here find attractive.

I kind of get where you are coming from but may I helpfully suggest that you might wish to skip threads about Playboy Magazine? Because it's kind of like going into threads about the Olympics and making snark about how interested you are in hearing people's opinions on sports.

Besides, this is not the "what kind of people do men find attractive" thread, it is the "lets have a contest to see who can most emphatically assert how they do not find Playboy's models attractive in an attempt to establish our non-shallow bona fides".
posted by Justinian at 4:26 PM on December 10, 2010 [11 favorites]


I don't pretend to understand how men think, but it floors me that someone would actually have scrutinized naked pictures enough to hold this view.

I don't pretend to understand how men think, but despite being a girl, I've definitely seen enough naked pictures to agree.

That being said, my first reaction to these (and I think this reveals something generational), was "PUBES!"
posted by PhoBWanKenobi at 4:32 PM on December 10, 2010 [2 favorites]


I do not find Playboy centerfolds attractive. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to sail my yacht to the orphanage and donate all these baskets of puppies, and then it's off to the gym to maintain my stellar physique.

MaryDellamorte: "Maybe you should lighten up a bit"

Pretty ironic thing to end that post with.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 4:38 PM on December 10, 2010 [3 favorites]


Besides, this is not the "what kind of people do men find attractive" thread, it is the "lets have a contest to see who can most emphatically assert how they do not find Playboy's models attractive in an attempt to establish our non-shallow bona fides".

I think you're missing the point. No one is talking about the models themselves as a real person. They're talking about the perfect, photoshopped photographs. Sure, they will look similar but the two are not the same. And I don't think anyone actually said that the models aren't attractive, just that they aren't their type. You can still find someone attractive or beautiful even though they aren't your type.
posted by MaryDellamorte at 4:39 PM on December 10, 2010


Maybe you should lighten up a bit.

i went back & reread my post. i don't think i'm the one being judgmental here.
posted by msconduct at 4:41 PM on December 10, 2010


Yeah, despite my snark, I'm going with the more charitable reading of people's posts about their opinions of Playboy models here, that they're not actually trying to show off but just ... stating their opinions?
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 4:43 PM on December 10, 2010


I'll have you know that I am now singing the following:

"My blood runs cold
My Photoshop's on overload
There's sausage in the centerfold (sausage in the centerfold)
Nah-na, Na-nah-na-na, Na-nah, na-nah, na-na-na-na-nah...."
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 4:50 PM on December 10, 2010 [18 favorites]


I can pretty much guarantee someone on music.mefi is onto that right now...
posted by unSane at 4:54 PM on December 10, 2010 [3 favorites]


I don't pretend to understand how men think, but it floors me that someone would actually have scrutinized naked pictures enough to hold this view.

This is my new favorite sentence here.

That being said, my first reaction to these (and I think this reveals something generational), was "PUBES!"

Yep. It's not hard to dig up the link to "every centerfold since the magazine was started" (it was fpp "2" above, though I think those links may no longer work) and it's incredibly fascinating to watch the changing centerfold over the years. Some of it is finding different physical types (you can see when particular kinds of plastic surgery become mandatory, for example), and some of it is different choices for hair (head and pubic).
posted by Forktine at 5:01 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


"AHA! I have made a discovery! All of these NEEPLES are HOMOGENOUS! I must go and inform the world!"

I could only read this as Conan O'Brien would.
posted by found missing at 5:06 PM on December 10, 2010 [4 favorites]


I was waiting for a thread where I could say what kind of porn I liked so that maybe uh someone could uh

crap

this isn't that kind of board is it
posted by LogicalDash at 5:11 PM on December 10, 2010 [3 favorites]


I used to work in a magazine publishing house. The instructions on the "photos" looked just like these -- only the models had more clothes. The most horrifying ones were, of course, the normal - sized looking people, with red marker lassos around their waists with the caption "shrink this". I do not miss that office, but I did admire the amazing skill with which the two photoshop magicians wielded their craft.
posted by cavalier at 5:13 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


Found missing, I was actually channeling Conan O'Brien so I'm glad you read it that way. That's how it sounded in my head so the people telling me to lighten up made me laugh.
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:19 PM on December 10, 2010


Metafilter: All of these NEEPLES are HOMOGENOUS! I must go and inform the world!
posted by jonp72 at 5:23 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


naoko, I actually like natural looking nipples and breasts, asymmetrical and with little unique touches specific to the woman. Kind of like the baseball stadiums of old.
posted by reenum at 5:58 PM on December 10, 2010


There is another story about him and a chick from Star Trek TNG but it will have to wait for another day as he will recognize himself too easily in it

Imma guess his name rhymes with Schmeginald Schmarclay.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 5:59 PM on December 10, 2010 [2 favorites]


msconduct, there is actually an explanation for my deep knowledge of Playboy centerfold nipples.

In college, a good friend of mine went back home overseas for good without really disposing of any of his things. He just gave me and a few of his other friends copies of his apartment key and told us to have at it (he had filthy rich parents).

He happened to have 5-6 years worth of Playboy magazines. For a girlfriend-less male in his early 20's, this was a gold mine. So, I took all the mags home to begin reading them. After looking at around 20 issues, I experienced the sort of porn mag numbness klangklangston was talking about.

At that point, I begin really looking at the women, and was struck by how homogenous they all looked. Black, brown, white, it didn't matter. The most striking thing were the breasts and nipples. The breasts were all dome shaped and had the large areolas and small or transparent nipples.

Once I began to have experiences with a variety of real women, I noticed that none of their breasts were like the ones in Playboy. In commiserating with my pals, they confirmed that none of their girlfriends had boobs like that too. This made it an even more noticeable phenomenon to me.

These days, I really don't get turned on by Playboy. The air brushing makes the women look like they are in the uncanny valley, and it's frankly a little creepy.

TL;dr- I looked at a lot of Playboys, don't like the fake look of the boobs. Long live real breasts.
posted by reenum at 6:08 PM on December 10, 2010 [2 favorites]


Goddammit, I clicked a Jezebel link.
posted by five fresh fish at 6:13 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


"lets have a contest to see who can most emphatically assert how they do not find Playboy's models attractive in an attempt to establish our non-shallow bona fides".

I'd find them more attractive if they weren't 'shopped within an inch of their digital lives. It's way too much manipulation. Playboy centerfold shots are less like photos and more like someone tracing the outline of a woman and having a sixteen year old boy color it in. Boobs.
posted by MikeMc at 6:45 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


I actually like natural looking nipples and breasts, asymmetrical and with little unique touches specific to the woman.

While I appreciate that, it seems worth noting that naturally large areolas do in fact exist.
posted by naoko at 7:32 PM on December 10, 2010 [2 favorites]


I prefer robots personally. None of this halfway nonsense.
posted by straight_razor at 7:45 PM on December 10, 2010 [3 favorites]


"She never shaved like they all do now..." Gotta love James McMurtry. My dad used to subscribe to Playboy when I was a little girl in the mid-seventies. One time I caught my babysitter with it - I wasn't sure at first though. When I asked her what she was reading, she replied "Better Homes and Gardens". Kind of funny, actually.
posted by PuppyCat at 9:06 PM on December 10, 2010


msconduct : I don't pretend to understand how men think, but it floors me that someone would actually have scrutinized naked pictures enough to hold this view.

Meh. Slackers.

I've used freckle-patterns to match up... umm... "models" under different pseudonyms for different publishers.

Of course, that has nothing to do with scrutinizing them as porn, so much as my OCD-like need for proper organization. ;)
posted by pla at 9:18 PM on December 10, 2010 [1 favorite]


Exactly the same way that all fashion spreads and commercial print ads are made. Are there really people who don't know about this?
posted by Ideefixe at 9:21 PM on December 10, 2010


How Your Playboy Centerfold Sausage Is Made

Wow, I'm so smart I don't even need to go look at all the nekkid pictures to know that the answer is "they airbrush the shit out of them."
posted by nanojath at 9:30 PM on December 10, 2010


I used to have a subscription to Playboy around the time some of these pictures were ... uh... edited.

I did read it for the articles, I swear, but I also made a fun game out of spotting the retouching. Most of it was done reasonably well, or at least consistently (all the women looked exactly the same like you can't even imagine if you haven't looked at Playboy on a regular basis) but occasionally - and this was the fun part - something was garishly, disturbingly anatomically incorrect. Usually something was just whittled into the wrong shape, but on a couple of occasions whole body parts sometimes disappeared, including, IIRC, a buttcrack, which seems like the last thing you'd want to smooth over if you were doing this kind of work.

Now it's funny to imagine someone doing it on purpose. "GET RID OF LINE BISECTING HER BUTT -----> ('(' )"


I have also met a few women who have posed for Playboy; not the big Playmates, just some side features. They were waaaaayyy prettier in real life.
posted by louche mustachio at 9:38 PM on December 10, 2010 [2 favorites]


Exactly the same way that all fashion spreads and commercial print ads are made. Are there really people who don't know about this?

Jezebel has taken it upon themselves, as part of the mission of the blog, the attempt to document as much as this sort of thing as possible, in all sorts of media.

As someone who works in the entertainment industry and has a bit of graphic design experience, it kind of bugs me sometimes. But then women are made to feel bad about ourselves (and obsess about our appearances) every waking moment of the day. Having this sort of thing pointed out to you over and over again can be a useful tool.
posted by Sara C. at 12:03 AM on December 11, 2010


Shocked, I am! Shocked!


... that anyone gives a crap about playboy anymore.
posted by lumpenprole at 1:41 AM on December 11, 2010


Weird fiddling around with photos of women's bodies still goes on all the time.
posted by nickyskye at 2:03 AM on December 11, 2010


The nipples of Angel Lynn Boris, July Playmate of the Month in 1996, were also unacceptably pert,

Does not compute.
posted by Splunge at 3:15 AM on December 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


Photoshop people can do all kinds of things to attain any aesthetic you want in a photo. It's an amazing skill. But I once art-directed a cheesecake-y calendar shoot, and I was blown away by how a professional hair and makeup person can transform a normal looking model into a goddess in about 45 minutes or so. It's like real-life Photoshop.

Not sure what they can do with nipples, though. It wasn't that kind of shoot.
posted by silkyd at 6:32 AM on December 11, 2010


I just googled and apparently there's a lot of plastic surgeons who offer nipple and areola improvement surgery. I'm not going to knock people if they feel they need it, but sometimes I despair of understanding my fellow monkeys.
posted by BrotherCaine at 7:02 AM on December 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


I don't get how anyone can hate on nipples. Whether they be giant saucers covering half the tit or #2 pencil eraser-heads or even those hard-to-see invisinipples… top of the boob or the bottom, looking out wall-eyed or pointing-in cross-eyed, all nipples are great. They might be the perfect body part. I don't think I've ever been disappointed with nipples.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 7:51 AM on December 11, 2010 [3 favorites]


I just googled and apparently there's a lot of plastic surgeons who offer nipple and areola improvement surgery.

I can top that -- there are plastic surgeons who offer vulva improvement surgery. And -- sadly -- most of their clients ask some variation on "make me look like the women in porn magazines."

Which is why I'm ultimately glad this got out -- maybe finally it's a way to point out that even the women in the porn magazines don't look "like women in porn magazines."
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 8:08 AM on December 11, 2010


In a society where women compete on television to have plastic surgery before their wedding, any atrocity is possible.
posted by five fresh fish at 10:19 AM on December 11, 2010


MetaFilter: Are there really people who don't know about this?
posted by ostranenie at 12:00 PM on December 11, 2010


Damn it, Civil_Disobedient. We have guidelines for a reason.
posted by sebastienbailard at 2:04 PM on December 11, 2010


EmpressCallipygos: "I just googled and apparently there's a lot of plastic surgeons who offer nipple and areola improvement surgery.

I can top that -- there are plastic surgeons who offer vulva improvement surgery. And -- sadly -- most of their clients ask some variation on "make me look like the women in porn magazines."

Which is why I'm ultimately glad this got out -- maybe finally it's a way to point out that even the women in the porn magazines don't look "like women in porn magazines.
"

I'll see your vulva and raise you a hymen.
posted by Splunge at 4:34 PM on December 11, 2010


I think that's a whole other situation, splunge - unless Playboy has centerfolds featuring how sexy someone's hymen is.

If such a thing really exists please don't tell me because I would really really rather not know thank you very much.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:57 PM on December 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


Well, maybe not Playboy. I see your point. I was just thinking about the general plastic surgery thing and the strange way that plastic surgery seems to have gotten a bit out of hand. I would think that Playboy doesn't actually have models trim their labia. Photoshop would work their as well, don't you think?

That being so, both of our links speak to a greater issue. The fact that a person can think less of themselves if they don't physically fulfill a perceived idea of perfection.

In that case, labia or hymen, it's in the mind of the person that opts for the surgery, no? So maybe it's not such different situation at all.
posted by Splunge at 7:34 PM on December 11, 2010


Wait, I thought we were cool with people modifying their genitalia surgically. I'm confused about when this is a choice to defend to internet death, and when it is something deserving of contemptuous ridicule.
posted by found missing at 8:26 PM on December 11, 2010


It's sad when someone feels they have to reconstruct their genitals to fit an imaginary ideal form.

It's also a choice that people are making in regards to their own body and should be respected for that reason: a person's body is their own.
posted by girih knot at 9:23 PM on December 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


What is real anymore?
posted by Israel Tucker at 8:49 AM on December 12, 2010


Reality is whatever you make it.
posted by five fresh fish at 9:29 AM on December 12, 2010


Photoshop would work their as well, don't you think?

I can think of a few better ways to work their as than Photoshop.

Oh, there.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 12:06 PM on December 12, 2010


Reality is whatever you make it.

Is that a quote from Hugh Hefner or L. Ron Hubbard?
posted by MikeMc at 3:10 PM on December 12, 2010


I honestly don't understand the fuss. Magazine photos of models are polished. So? The subjects are prettier than reality. So? What has reality to do with photos of pretty women (or men!), anyway?

For me, reality is polished, any time I wish. I just take off my glasses. It's actually kind of funny, in my own case. There were some years between my eyesight getting worse with age, and my realizing I could wear glasses while I shaved. LOL! During that period, I was amazed at "how little I aged". LOL! I just couldn't see, because my eyes blurred out the tell-tales of age.
posted by Goofyy at 4:48 AM on December 13, 2010


It's sad when someone feels they have to reconstruct their genitals to fit an imaginary ideal form.

It's also a choice that people are making in regards to their own body and should be respected for that reason: a person's body is their own.


Is it also sad when transgender people do it? Their desired genital form is "imaginary" until they get the surgery.
posted by LogicalDash at 5:52 AM on December 13, 2010


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