As for Carnie Wilson, everyone should realize that at the time of her surgery, she wasn't just the plump woman we all saw in those Wilson Phillips videos; she was much fatter. After the band broke up, she gained a lot of weight, to the point where the surgery was very much medically necessary, for physical and emotional reasons. That's different from some superficial girl deciding to go in for stomach-stapling just because she thinks she doesn't look so great in the mirror.
There's a difference between being overweight and being obese. The former is an arbitrary decision by society (and there can be no argument that society starts to ostracize you the moment you edge more than three pounds or so above whatever the masses currently deem "attractive"). The latter term is a specific medical problem with direct medical risks, and should only be applied to people who are quite beyond being merely a bit "overweight."
I feel the need to add one point: For a short period of time a few years ago, there was a band called "The Fat Chick From Wilson Phillips." They didn't accomplish much besides earning a place in The Canonical List of Weird Band Names.posted by aaron at 3:02 PM on February 4, 2001
Yeah, you're right that people are defining the term differently. I think that to many people, "feminism" has morphed into an ideology of hardcore man-hating, with such an extreme amount of lesbian-rights stuff mixed in that it overrides everything else that feminism used to be about (plain old fairness/equality and the like). And those that use that definition have a point to some extent, especially if you think of NOW as the center of American feminism.
third, the media is neither liberal nor conservative, it is corporate-minded.
This also is a definition problem. If you use the word "media" to mean all media, from TV shows to magazines to records and books and on and on, then sure, it's corporate. But if you define the "media" to be the news media, that's different. Journalists and their editors are, as a group, overwhelmingly liberal. And thus what gets published or aired is overwhelmingly liberally biased. This is why Fox News Channel stands out so much; it's not that FNC is conservative, it's that everyone else is so uniformly liberal in their groupthink that any mild deviation stands out like a sore thumb. (And, amusingly, gets more viewers.)
Yes, Cosmo is for mature women. Definitely. ::stifles laughter:: Why, those hard-hitting articles of theirs just scream maturity and intelligence.
Geez, doesn't anyone comprehend sarcasm anymore? My point was that while Cosmo is immature bunk, Jane is even lamer, because Cosmo is at least tongue-in-cheek about where it's coming from. Jane tries to pretend it's sophisticated while generally offering up the same crap, and that's far more pathetic.posted by aaron at 4:13 PM on February 4, 2001
And I would like to add: what about people who are intersex? Let them be wherever they're comfortable being, too. This whole male-female thing is a lot less black and white than it seems, y'know. It's a continuum - let each of us find our own place along the line and quit labeling things unnecessarily as "masculine only" or "feminine only".posted by beth at 11:49 AM on February 5, 2001
That you for that detailed, insightful rebuttal. ;)
but I am now officially concerned about your level of expertise in the subject matter.
It was market research! I swear!
the tally of known votes from one journalist's office
One local newspaper in suburban Virginia. And the liberals were a majority even there. :) The national media, OTOH, is overwhelmingly liberal. I was at ABC during the Lewinsky scandal. I saw and heard enough there to cement the reality of this forever.posted by aaron at 10:42 PM on February 7, 2001
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