Should namesakes of public institutions have a "clean" record? Why did it take 126 years to mobilize a renaming effort?
posted by noom (17 comments total)
Furthermore, it is also obvious that the most important lesson we can learn from this unsavory episode is that what we, as a nation, hold as morally correct at this time is the sole basis on which to judge all culture, all history, all peoples. For this reason, I state we should make a stand. We shall begin petitioning Congress for nuclear sterilization of Spain, for their crimes against the poor innocent souls of the MesoAmericans they so ruthlessly slaughtered. We shall petition Congress for the chemical eradication of the peoples of MesoAmerica, for their hideous practices of slavery and cannibalism. The Japanese, for Nanjing. The Chinese, for their current horrid babykilling tactics. The Australians, for their mistreatment of the Aborigines. The British, for their ruthless treatment of the helpless victims of the African continent. All tribes of Africa, for their crimes against each other. All of Eurasia, for being human. All of humanity will be cleansed, in the glowing light of our own correctness.
posted by Unxmaal at 10:14 PM on March 19, 2001
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posted by aaron at 10:16 PM on March 19, 2001
I will never subject my children to a public school. But if I did, I honestly wouldn't mind one bit what the name was. I might even send her there just for the amusement factor alone; they'd have some kickass T-shirts. I wonder what the team name would be ... the Proletariat? Maybe the Rootless Cosmopolitans. That would piss off even more people.
Or even worse...William Jefferson Clinton Elementary?
Sure, why not? It looks like pretty decent place.
Should we name a place of learning after a person who was so deluded by his racism that he twisted scientific reasoning in an attempt to undermine the dignity and value of a group of people?
I don't see why not, as long as his name wasn't put on there because of his racism. The vast majority of people of his time held beliefs that we consider racist today. To follow this to its logical conclusion, we'd have to cease all public honoration of just about everyone that lived before 1900 or so, as well as a ton of people after that. (And as we've just seen in another thread, we'd even have to start marginalizing Abraham Lincoln.)
There's a difference between covering up a mistake and no longer celebrating one.
We're not celebrating his mistake. It's obvious that not only were the children not being tragically oppressed by having to attend Agassiz Elementary, they never even had a clue about his beliefs. And neither did any of the adults apparently, until someone dug it up out of the forgotten bowels of history and starting shouting complaints from the rooftops.
Fighting racism is important. But this is approaching the level of a witchhunt. When people start having to go out of their way to dig for things to get insulted over, it's going too far.
Really, if people want something to get worked up about, they should be far more disgusted with 21st-century companies that are using Martin Luther King's and Jackie Robinson's struggles for equality in order to plug commercial products. (Cingular and Diner's Club are running such ad campaigns right now.)
This is a public institution.
I think this is an argument against the name change, not for it. If we're required to submit to this kid's objections, and yet we're not required to submit to the objections of a white supremacist's kid that attends MLK Elementary, we're granting special rights. (Sorry, but rights are either applicable to all or they're not, no matter how scummy the other side might be.) Better to just stay out of it.
posted by aaron at 12:17 AM on March 21, 2001
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posted by Doug at 9:36 PM on March 19, 2001