Technology is the name we give to things that don’t work yet
November 7, 2011 3:20 PM Subscribe
Hmm... the EMS VCS 3 is apparently beloved of a long list of people you'd except... and also Ice T?
(And nuns, clearly a big market.)
posted by Artw at 3:36 PM on November 7, 2011 [2 favorites]
(And nuns, clearly a big market.)
posted by Artw at 3:36 PM on November 7, 2011 [2 favorites]
I'm kind of entranced by the 200 ton Telharmonium from 1906, that was carried on 30 railway carriages and plugged into the local phone exchange.
I don't want to google it in case he's joking.
posted by Sebmojo at 3:41 PM on November 7, 2011 [2 favorites]
I don't want to google it in case he's joking.
posted by Sebmojo at 3:41 PM on November 7, 2011 [2 favorites]
Really interesting, and for once the comments were worth reading, at least when I got there.
posted by immlass at 3:46 PM on November 7, 2011
posted by immlass at 3:46 PM on November 7, 2011
I've been wanting (as in WANT) a VCS3 for years. Those things are fantastic.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 3:52 PM on November 7, 2011
posted by flapjax at midnite at 3:52 PM on November 7, 2011
For anyone who's interested, Eno was on Sound Opinions this past week.
posted by banwa at 4:11 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by banwa at 4:11 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
The thing about musical instruments, especially in the age of affordable electronics is you can absolutely go the DIY route. Nobody says you shouldn't. You can wait to score a VDS3, or you can build your own version of a VCS3 - these days, the barrier is neither money, nor knowledge. Of course, time is always a limit, but hey, nobody says that you'll learn nothing while building - experimentation can have its own serendipitous rewards. And isn't it easier to build a synth than to to build your own violin by hand?
posted by VikingSword at 4:12 PM on November 7, 2011
posted by VikingSword at 4:12 PM on November 7, 2011
He was also in TapeOp. Great interview there, not online afaik.
posted by nutate at 4:24 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by nutate at 4:24 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
Eno playing the VCS3 on "Ladytron" (about four minutes in).
posted by twoleftfeet at 4:29 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by twoleftfeet at 4:29 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
This is relevant to my interests as I am just now getting around to exploring the music of Eno. I shouldn't have waited so long. You can hear the inspiration for tons of 80s/90s bands in the work he did before 1975. Methinks Johnny Marr drew inspiration from this song.
posted by punkfloyd at 4:30 PM on November 7, 2011
posted by punkfloyd at 4:30 PM on November 7, 2011
Eno is God.
posted by 3.2.3 at 4:33 PM on November 7, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by 3.2.3 at 4:33 PM on November 7, 2011 [4 favorites]
From this other open thread:
“THE BRIAN ENO”
8 oz. Water
Serve neat.
posted by azarbayejani at 5:22 PM on November 7, 2011 [2 favorites]
“THE BRIAN ENO”
8 oz. Water
Serve neat.
posted by azarbayejani at 5:22 PM on November 7, 2011 [2 favorites]
If you ever get a chance to see him talk - do not miss it. I saw him give a lecture in Jan in Vancouver, BC and it was everything you'd think: smart, accessible, historical, futuristic, entertaining, charming, etc.
I was once wondered out loud why artist statements by anybody else sound like horrible MFA-babble, but when Eno talks like that it sounds like incredibly god-like profundity. Without blinking my friend said "Because everyone else is imitating the way he was authentically describing the artistic process in 1974."
I am just now getting around to exploring the music of Eno
Another Green World (the album)
posted by victors at 5:34 PM on November 7, 2011 [4 favorites]
I was once wondered out loud why artist statements by anybody else sound like horrible MFA-babble, but when Eno talks like that it sounds like incredibly god-like profundity. Without blinking my friend said "Because everyone else is imitating the way he was authentically describing the artistic process in 1974."
I am just now getting around to exploring the music of Eno
Another Green World (the album)
posted by victors at 5:34 PM on November 7, 2011 [4 favorites]
I have a theory that Eno's relevance and insight into the culture at large directly parallels his personal struggles with, and ultimate acceptance of, male pattern baldness. Less hair = more insight.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 5:47 PM on November 7, 2011 [6 favorites]
posted by BitterOldPunk at 5:47 PM on November 7, 2011 [6 favorites]
Well that just leads into the great Alan Moore Vs Grant Morrison debate...
posted by Artw at 5:51 PM on November 7, 2011
posted by Artw at 5:51 PM on November 7, 2011
Eno is God.
No. But he is One (spelled backward)
posted by philip-random at 6:02 PM on November 7, 2011
No. But he is One (spelled backward)
posted by philip-random at 6:02 PM on November 7, 2011
Eno speaks in FPPs.
posted by bonobothegreat at 6:10 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by bonobothegreat at 6:10 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
Brian Eno - The Dick Flash Interview
Keep your Squelchy Life to yourself there, pal.
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 6:22 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
Keep your Squelchy Life to yourself there, pal.
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 6:22 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
Less hair = more insight.
I do so want to believe that.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:55 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
I do so want to believe that.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:55 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
Eno speaks in FPPs.
Posted by bonobothegreat at 6:10 PM on November 7 [+] [!]
"Asking whether cultures have values is like asking whether telephones have conversations".
If you ever see his 1998 diary, 'Year with Swollen Appendices' around then grab it - it's brilliant, but is out of print and hellishly hard to find.
posted by Sebmojo at 7:01 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
Posted by bonobothegreat at 6:10 PM on November 7 [+] [!]
"Asking whether cultures have values is like asking whether telephones have conversations".
If you ever see his 1998 diary, 'Year with Swollen Appendices' around then grab it - it's brilliant, but is out of print and hellishly hard to find.
posted by Sebmojo at 7:01 PM on November 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
...you can build your own version of a VCS3 - these days, the barrier is neither money, nor knowledge.
As respectfully as I can, I have to disagree.
posted by luckynerd at 8:23 PM on November 7, 2011
As respectfully as I can, I have to disagree.
posted by luckynerd at 8:23 PM on November 7, 2011
>Gearslutz agrees that there is no substitute for an actual VCS3.<
Probably not, but I was just using this moments ago, and it doesn’t suck;
http://www.xils-lab.com/pages/XILS-3.html
I’m actually using the lite version, which is really cheap, because it doesn’t require ilok.
posted by bongo_x at 9:53 PM on November 7, 2011
Probably not, but I was just using this moments ago, and it doesn’t suck;
http://www.xils-lab.com/pages/XILS-3.html
I’m actually using the lite version, which is really cheap, because it doesn’t require ilok.
posted by bongo_x at 9:53 PM on November 7, 2011
Eno is a lot smaller than you think.
No, even smaller than that.
posted by Grangousier at 12:48 AM on November 8, 2011
No, even smaller than that.
posted by Grangousier at 12:48 AM on November 8, 2011
Gearslutz agrees that there is no substitute for an actual VCS3.
While that may be true, I contend that building a synth akin to a VCS3 is no small task. Restoring them is easier, and that's no picnic! (Sadly, a lot of coveted synths have not aged well.)
posted by luckynerd at 1:23 AM on November 8, 2011
While that may be true, I contend that building a synth akin to a VCS3 is no small task. Restoring them is easier, and that's no picnic! (Sadly, a lot of coveted synths have not aged well.)
posted by luckynerd at 1:23 AM on November 8, 2011
Back when I was younger I wore out my copy of "Zero Time" by Tonto's Expanding Headband, just ordered it on CD. What with this exhibition and the Da Vinci I see it is time to go to London again.
posted by epo at 6:08 AM on November 8, 2011
posted by epo at 6:08 AM on November 8, 2011
I bet Brian Eno loves getting paid 5 figures to waffle about music. It's like getting paid to walk around the park and throw stones at cans for him.
posted by Not Supplied at 7:12 AM on November 8, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Not Supplied at 7:12 AM on November 8, 2011 [1 favorite]
I think that Brain One was using a bit of hyperbole here. Clearly, technology provides innovation in music and visa versa, however the relationship is anything but "perfectly circular". Many guitarists could be considered inevitable creators of music using the technology made available to them without providing any sort of contribution to the technologies themselves.
posted by onesidys at 2:28 PM on November 8, 2011
posted by onesidys at 2:28 PM on November 8, 2011
And isn't it easier to build a synth than to to build your own violin by hand?
almost certainly. I've built my own drum sequencer... There are plenty of homebrew synth projects out there, lots of how-tos and circuit diagrams. It's even easier when you consider that computers are not just fast enough to run effective softsynths, but fast enough that a total newbie can write one badly, and it will still play in real time.
posted by Mars Saxman at 3:10 PM on November 8, 2011
almost certainly. I've built my own drum sequencer... There are plenty of homebrew synth projects out there, lots of how-tos and circuit diagrams. It's even easier when you consider that computers are not just fast enough to run effective softsynths, but fast enough that a total newbie can write one badly, and it will still play in real time.
posted by Mars Saxman at 3:10 PM on November 8, 2011
Sorry, late to the party. Here is Brian's randomly chosen Oblique Strategy, inspiration for whatever you are working on at the moment:
Change nothing and continue with immaculate consistency
posted by Meatbomb at 11:07 PM on November 13, 2011 [1 favorite]
Change nothing and continue with immaculate consistency
posted by Meatbomb at 11:07 PM on November 13, 2011 [1 favorite]
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