25 Years Later
October 6, 2014 9:41 AM Subscribe
Showtime officially announces David Lynch and Mark Frost's cult TV series "Twin Peaks" will return in 2016. David Lynch confirms via Twitter, and Frost speaks to Variety, confirming that the new episodes "will be set in the present day and continue storylines established in the second season."
What a time to be alive!
posted by desjardins at 9:47 AM on October 6, 2014 [8 favorites]
posted by desjardins at 9:47 AM on October 6, 2014 [8 favorites]
Coming in 2019: Eraserhead II: Baby's All Grown Up
posted by gwint at 9:47 AM on October 6, 2014 [32 favorites]
posted by gwint at 9:47 AM on October 6, 2014 [32 favorites]
25 years, Christ. What do I have to show for it? I don't even have any pie.
posted by thelonius at 9:47 AM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
posted by thelonius at 9:47 AM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
I could go for a piece of pie right about now.
posted by briank at 9:47 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by briank at 9:47 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Between this and the X-Files reboot, the Dream of the 90s really is alive.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:49 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:49 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
Between this and the X-Files reboot
The what now??
posted by Atom Eyes at 9:50 AM on October 6, 2014 [42 favorites]
The what now??
posted by Atom Eyes at 9:50 AM on October 6, 2014 [42 favorites]
My air sacks have never felt so good.
posted by adipocere at 9:51 AM on October 6, 2014 [12 favorites]
posted by adipocere at 9:51 AM on October 6, 2014 [12 favorites]
My wife made a damn good pie yesterday.
Holy shit, foreshadowing.
posted by ardgedee at 9:51 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
Holy shit, foreshadowing.
posted by ardgedee at 9:51 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
The chills that ran down my spine when that song kicked in at 45 seconds! Oh my god!
I was not a part of the original Twin Peaks phenomenon, instead I watched it in its entiriety over a period of 20-something hours sometime around the year 2002 (on acid).
This is going to be incredible.
posted by zyxwvut at 9:52 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
I was not a part of the original Twin Peaks phenomenon, instead I watched it in its entiriety over a period of 20-something hours sometime around the year 2002 (on acid).
This is going to be incredible.
posted by zyxwvut at 9:52 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
Looks like my "dress like Audrey Horne" aesthetic for this fall was on trend. That gum you like, etc.
posted by pxe2000 at 9:52 AM on October 6, 2014 [12 favorites]
posted by pxe2000 at 9:52 AM on October 6, 2014 [12 favorites]
Metafilter: What a time to be alive!
posted by Fizz at 9:52 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by Fizz at 9:52 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
Coming in 2019: Eraserhead II: Baby's All Grown Up
AKA 'God Emperor of Dune'... look at the cute baby Hai'Shulud.
posted by ennui.bz at 9:53 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
AKA 'God Emperor of Dune'... look at the cute baby Hai'Shulud.
posted by ennui.bz at 9:53 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
It is happening again.
It is happening again.
Also I have a terrible feeling about it. The second season of Twin Peaks was awful. Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped. The original Twin Peaks has not aged well at all, particularly in an era where supernatural serial drama is a regular occurrence on TV. I absolutely loved Twin Peaks in its moment and I sure would like something to love again, but they're going to have to dig deep. Having a limited run is an encouraging sign.
posted by Nelson at 9:54 AM on October 6, 2014 [8 favorites]
It is happening again.
Also I have a terrible feeling about it. The second season of Twin Peaks was awful. Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped. The original Twin Peaks has not aged well at all, particularly in an era where supernatural serial drama is a regular occurrence on TV. I absolutely loved Twin Peaks in its moment and I sure would like something to love again, but they're going to have to dig deep. Having a limited run is an encouraging sign.
posted by Nelson at 9:54 AM on October 6, 2014 [8 favorites]
In general I'm not very keen on how nostalgic our culture seems to be recently - defunct bands reforming to play their old albums, endless rebooted film and TV franchises. But, I'll make an exception and allow myself to be excited about this. "Written & Directed by David Lynch" - it will, at the very least, be interesting.
Also, if we just get one scene as funny as Albert's arrival at the Sheriff's Station it will all be worth it.
posted by sobarel at 9:54 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
Also, if we just get one scene as funny as Albert's arrival at the Sheriff's Station it will all be worth it.
posted by sobarel at 9:54 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
I guess we'll finally find out how's Annie.
posted by entropicamericana at 9:54 AM on October 6, 2014 [7 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 9:54 AM on October 6, 2014 [7 favorites]
What a time to be alive!
You still have to survive for another two years.
posted by goethean at 9:55 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
You still have to survive for another two years.
posted by goethean at 9:55 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
HERE'S HOPING IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT ABOUT DICKY TREMAYNE AND THAT GODDAMN LITTLE KID
posted by Sticherbeast at 9:55 AM on October 6, 2014 [22 favorites]
posted by Sticherbeast at 9:55 AM on October 6, 2014 [22 favorites]
I really enjoyed the first season of Twin Peaks. I've seen those episodes 2 or 3 times, but I'm scared to watch much more than that, because of every other show that's broken my heart over the years. But I guess I should finally find out who killed Laura Palmer before this miniseries comes out, huh?
posted by lesli212 at 9:55 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by lesli212 at 9:55 AM on October 6, 2014
Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped
B-b-but, Twin Peaks was after Wild at Heart and Dune a-a-and before Lost Highway and Mulholland Dr. ???
posted by Zerowensboring at 9:56 AM on October 6, 2014 [33 favorites]
B-b-but, Twin Peaks was after Wild at Heart and Dune a-a-and before Lost Highway and Mulholland Dr. ???
posted by Zerowensboring at 9:56 AM on October 6, 2014 [33 favorites]
I hear Mr Palmer opened an alternative healing center...
posted by ian1977 at 9:57 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by ian1977 at 9:57 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped.
Mulholland Drive is considered by critics to be Lynch's masterpiece, and is ranked the 28th greatest film of all time in the last Sight and Sound poll.
Lynch will be directing all nine episodes, which is the best news of all.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 9:58 AM on October 6, 2014 [22 favorites]
Mulholland Drive is considered by critics to be Lynch's masterpiece, and is ranked the 28th greatest film of all time in the last Sight and Sound poll.
Lynch will be directing all nine episodes, which is the best news of all.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 9:58 AM on October 6, 2014 [22 favorites]
lesli212: Watch season 2 up until the killer is revealed and then skip forward to the last couple of episodes - thereby missing the terrible meandering middle of the season when Lynch was absent and all went to hell - then get thee hence to Fire Walk With Me. All shall be well.
posted by sobarel at 10:00 AM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
posted by sobarel at 10:00 AM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
Oh my, what pleasant news.
posted by codacorolla at 10:01 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by codacorolla at 10:01 AM on October 6, 2014
The second season of Twin Peaks was awful.
Agreed, except for the last couple episodes.
Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped.
Completely disagree.
The original Twin Peaks has not aged well at all, particularly in an era where supernatural serial drama is a regular occurrence on TV.
I saw the series for the first time last year. Binge-watched the fuck out of it. You seriously couldn't be more wrong.
posted by Atom Eyes at 10:03 AM on October 6, 2014 [27 favorites]
Agreed, except for the last couple episodes.
Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped.
Completely disagree.
The original Twin Peaks has not aged well at all, particularly in an era where supernatural serial drama is a regular occurrence on TV.
I saw the series for the first time last year. Binge-watched the fuck out of it. You seriously couldn't be more wrong.
posted by Atom Eyes at 10:03 AM on October 6, 2014 [27 favorites]
robocop please confirm whether you're kidding us about that X-Files thing so help me god
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:03 AM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:03 AM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
The second season of Twin Peaks was awful. Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped.
Er, you're half right. But the second season, when it was bad, and it wasn't always bad, was so because of the absence of Lynch and the fact that the studios forced them to wrap up the murder prematurely.
But the second season also includes the murder of Maddie, which is one of the most chilling things ever filmed. Everything Lynch did in the second season, including the deliberately contrary final episode, was terrific.
posted by maxsparber at 10:05 AM on October 6, 2014 [11 favorites]
Er, you're half right. But the second season, when it was bad, and it wasn't always bad, was so because of the absence of Lynch and the fact that the studios forced them to wrap up the murder prematurely.
But the second season also includes the murder of Maddie, which is one of the most chilling things ever filmed. Everything Lynch did in the second season, including the deliberately contrary final episode, was terrific.
posted by maxsparber at 10:05 AM on October 6, 2014 [11 favorites]
This'll go well with the new modern day urban reboot of Little House on the Prairie.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 10:07 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 10:07 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
I don't think anything is confirmed for an x-files reboot. Last I saw, Carter is still pitching it.
posted by bonehead at 10:08 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by bonehead at 10:08 AM on October 6, 2014
Hopefully they'll buy Twede's in North Bend and rescue the Double R diner from the ignominious sods squatting on it's fame.
posted by Joe Chip at 10:09 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by Joe Chip at 10:09 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
He's going to have to wait a while to get a Millennium reboot off the ground I suppose.
posted by sobarel at 10:09 AM on October 6, 2014 [7 favorites]
posted by sobarel at 10:09 AM on October 6, 2014 [7 favorites]
So, since there seems to be someone answering prayers for media resurrections, I'd like my Bill & Ted III, please.
posted by paper chromatographologist at 10:09 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by paper chromatographologist at 10:09 AM on October 6, 2014
At long last, one of the unsolved mysteries of the original series will be addressed:
Did they save the pine weasel?
posted by Dr-Baa at 10:10 AM on October 6, 2014 [8 favorites]
Did they save the pine weasel?
posted by Dr-Baa at 10:10 AM on October 6, 2014 [8 favorites]
Incredible roasted.
posted by adipocere at 10:11 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by adipocere at 10:11 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Fire Walk with Me was a great movie, I don't care what anyone says.
posted by tunewell at 10:12 AM on October 6, 2014 [13 favorites]
posted by tunewell at 10:12 AM on October 6, 2014 [13 favorites]
I'm just glad that freed from the oppressive yoke of network television censorship, David Lynch will finally be able to show us what he really wanted Jerry Horne to do to that baguette.
posted by griphus at 10:16 AM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
posted by griphus at 10:16 AM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
More Twin Peaks, more remakes, more updates, more everything, please:
"There will be nothing that ruins the DVDs of Twin Peaks in your media collection. The absolute worst case scenario is they make something that isn't good and we don't have to watch it. That's it. That's the cataclysm some people feel like they must avoid."posted by Fizz at 10:16 AM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
Outstanding.
I think it's more likely than not that it won't be very good, but it has a non-negligible chance of being incredible, which makes the endeavor more than worth it.
posted by painquale at 10:17 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
I think it's more likely than not that it won't be very good, but it has a non-negligible chance of being incredible, which makes the endeavor more than worth it.
posted by painquale at 10:17 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
No, I certainly don't have an extensive character outline for how I would reboot the series that I typed up last winter. Definitely not.
posted by codacorolla at 10:19 AM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
posted by codacorolla at 10:19 AM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
Cooper, you remind me today of a small Mexican chi-wowow.
posted by sobarel at 10:19 AM on October 6, 2014 [13 favorites]
posted by sobarel at 10:19 AM on October 6, 2014 [13 favorites]
The unspoken question on everybody's lips, obviously, is "whatever became of the characters on Invitation to Love?"
posted by duffell at 10:21 AM on October 6, 2014 [14 favorites]
posted by duffell at 10:21 AM on October 6, 2014 [14 favorites]
Invitation to Love has itself been given a gritty, adult reboot by HBO.
posted by sobarel at 10:26 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by sobarel at 10:26 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
The unspoken question on everybody's lips, obviously, is "whatever became of the characters on Invitation to Love?"
And will David Bowie ever talk about Judy?
posted by maxsparber at 10:27 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
And will David Bowie ever talk about Judy?
posted by maxsparber at 10:27 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
Invitation to Love has itself been given a gritty, adult reboot by HBO.
It was called True Detective.
posted by maxsparber at 10:28 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
It was called True Detective.
posted by maxsparber at 10:28 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
*plays Audrey's Dance on repeat
posted by Palindromedary at 10:31 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by Palindromedary at 10:31 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
So, since there seems to be someone answering prayers for media resurrections, I'd like my Bill & Ted III, please.
Whether you're being serious here or not, there's something you should read...
posted by sparkletone at 10:32 AM on October 6, 2014
Whether you're being serious here or not, there's something you should read...
posted by sparkletone at 10:32 AM on October 6, 2014
got dang this threads is heck of like 'only 90s tweens will get this...' dot tumblr dot com right now
posted by boo_radley at 10:33 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by boo_radley at 10:33 AM on October 6, 2014
I was conducting a training when this news broke. My phone almost caught on fire with all the texts from friends who know about my undying love of Peaks.
I honestly had a hard time keeping it together when I finally glanced down at my phone.
posted by furnace.heart at 10:33 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
I honestly had a hard time keeping it together when I finally glanced down at my phone.
posted by furnace.heart at 10:33 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
where did this coffee come from
and this pie
posted by boo_radley at 10:33 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
and this pie
posted by boo_radley at 10:33 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
How's the coffee, boo?
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:34 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:34 AM on October 6, 2014
(rolling montage of metafilter users posing with mysterious coffee and pie)
posted by boo_radley at 10:36 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by boo_radley at 10:36 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
(rolling montage of metafilter users posing with mysterious coffee and pie)
I dunno that anybody has a table large enough for a Twin Peaks-esque display of Cortex donuts.
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:38 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
I dunno that anybody has a table large enough for a Twin Peaks-esque display of Cortex donuts.
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:38 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
I just remembered a bunch of Halloweens ago, I was at the East Village parade and walking to the train on a sidestreet, and a couple passed me by in weird costumes -- a more-or-less nondescript man in a suit and what looked to be a big blue flame maybe? -- and then I realized what was happening and as they passed us I yelled to my friends "Hey guys, she's dead! Wrapped in plastic!" and just then the woman turned around with a big smile and yelled OH MY GOD THANK YOU.
posted by griphus at 10:41 AM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
posted by griphus at 10:41 AM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped.
Obviously he ran instead of facing his doppelganger in the Black Lodge.
posted by localroger at 10:46 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Obviously he ran instead of facing his doppelganger in the Black Lodge.
posted by localroger at 10:46 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
This is the best news I have heard for a long time. I still watch Twin Peaks once a year. Just to make sure it stays exactly how it is.
posted by my-username at 10:46 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by my-username at 10:46 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
Somewhere, the rumble is absorbed by a pine forest as James Hurley's hog coughs into life once more.
posted by adipocere at 10:52 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by adipocere at 10:52 AM on October 6, 2014
Diane, I am holding in my hand the scalp of Sheriff Truman. Apparently that peyote was stronger than I expected.
posted by goethean at 10:53 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by goethean at 10:53 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
I live in the town of "Twin Peaks". A couple of things come to mind. One, I should get going on that project idea I had aboute taking some of Cooper's famous lines and posting them at the spots they reference. That would be for funsies, but for realsies: Two, considering doing a bunch of graffiti around town that reads "Dune: The Director's Cut" pleeeeze!
posted by P.o.B. at 10:54 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by P.o.B. at 10:54 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
Angelo Badalamenti is getting up there. Who else could do music so perfect, so 'Peachy Keen'?
posted by bonehead at 10:56 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by bonehead at 10:56 AM on October 6, 2014
Yay, Bob, yay.
posted by kid ichorous at 10:57 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by kid ichorous at 10:57 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Looks like my "dress like Audrey Horne" aesthetic for this fall was on trend. That gum you like, etc.
I've been slacking in the eyebrow department for sure.
posted by Room 641-A at 10:58 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
I've been slacking in the eyebrow department for sure.
posted by Room 641-A at 10:58 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
...will be set in the present day and continue storylines established in the second season.
There were storylines?
posted by Thorzdad at 10:59 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
There were storylines?
posted by Thorzdad at 10:59 AM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
The Audry Horne aesthetic is always on trend.
Always.
Just for reference: Twin Peaks, Cast Then, Now and Before.
posted by furnace.heart at 11:05 AM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
Always.
Just for reference: Twin Peaks, Cast Then, Now and Before.
posted by furnace.heart at 11:05 AM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
27 years in a dresser isn't good for a person.
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:05 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:05 AM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
Lara Flynn Boyle looks like she's pondering what my head would look like if it were implanted into my hollowed out torso
posted by waraw at 11:12 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by waraw at 11:12 AM on October 6, 2014
Well, it is at least a nice knob, being in the Great Northern and such.
posted by codacorolla at 11:12 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by codacorolla at 11:12 AM on October 6, 2014
Pope Guilty: "27 years in a dresser isn't good for a person."
Some cedar planks, it'll be fine. She'll be fine.
posted by boo_radley at 11:16 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Some cedar planks, it'll be fine. She'll be fine.
posted by boo_radley at 11:16 AM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Twin Peaks is timeless. Advances in television storytelling, cinematography, and network programming have only made its beauty, stillness, and charm stand out even more.
For all its flaws in season two, the first season and every episode Lynch personally directed is a masterpiece. The movie too.
posted by rorgy at 11:18 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
For all its flaws in season two, the first season and every episode Lynch personally directed is a masterpiece. The movie too.
posted by rorgy at 11:18 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Lara Flynn Boyle looks like she's pondering what my head would look like if it were implanted into my hollowed out torso
In fairness, I'm not sure she has another look.
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:19 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
In fairness, I'm not sure she has another look.
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:19 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Just for reference: Twin Peaks, Cast Then, Now and Before.
Whoa, I never knew Norma (Peggy Lipton) is Rashida Jones' mom! Cool.
I'm really looking forward to this but it just won't be the same without Jack Nance.
.
posted by dialetheia at 11:24 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
Whoa, I never knew Norma (Peggy Lipton) is Rashida Jones' mom! Cool.
I'm really looking forward to this but it just won't be the same without Jack Nance.
.
posted by dialetheia at 11:24 AM on October 6, 2014 [5 favorites]
the murder of Maddie, which is one of the most chilling things ever filmed.
Still the most disturbing thing I've ever seen on television.
posted by ao4047 at 11:27 AM on October 6, 2014
Still the most disturbing thing I've ever seen on television.
posted by ao4047 at 11:27 AM on October 6, 2014
#WhatIfTwinPeakOnTvToday
posted by Potomac Avenue at 11:31 AM on October 6, 2014
posted by Potomac Avenue at 11:31 AM on October 6, 2014
The "Then and Now" link is shocking! All those people seem 25 years older. Oh, wait. Never mind.
posted by cccorlew at 11:40 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by cccorlew at 11:40 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
furnace.heart:
That actually sounds oddly Twin-Peaks-ish in a way.
I hope he had a damn good coffee first.
.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 11:49 AM on October 6, 2014
"Just for reference: Twin Peaks, Cast Then, Now and Before."dialetheia:
"I'm really looking forward to this but it just won't be the same without Jack Nance."From furnace.heart's link: "Nance himself died in 1996, from injuries incurred during a drunken brawl outside a donut store."
That actually sounds oddly Twin-Peaks-ish in a way.
I hope he had a damn good coffee first.
.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 11:49 AM on October 6, 2014
You should check out I Don't Know Jack sometime.
posted by Dr-Baa at 11:51 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by Dr-Baa at 11:51 AM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
And now, an ending. Where there was once one, there are now two. Or were there always two? What is a reflection? A chance to see two? When there are chances for reflections, there can always be two — or more. Only when we are everywhere will there be just one. It has been a pleasure speaking to you.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 12:03 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 12:03 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Just for reference: Twin Peaks, Cast Then, Now and Before.
That link bafflingly fails to mention that Catherine Coulson, whom we know as the Log Lady, has a longer list of credentials on IMDB under Camera and Electrical Department than as a performer. The Log Lady was a camera operator on The Wrath of Khan. I cannot get over that.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 12:19 PM on October 6, 2014 [10 favorites]
That link bafflingly fails to mention that Catherine Coulson, whom we know as the Log Lady, has a longer list of credentials on IMDB under Camera and Electrical Department than as a performer. The Log Lady was a camera operator on The Wrath of Khan. I cannot get over that.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 12:19 PM on October 6, 2014 [10 favorites]
Advances in television storytelling, cinematography, and network programming have only made its beauty, stillness, and charm stand out even more.
Four of the six flavours of quarks are truth, beauty, strangeness and charm, which also seems lie a fair summary of the components of Twin Peaks. Ironically, the 1978 TV series Quark was short on most of these.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 12:26 PM on October 6, 2014
Four of the six flavours of quarks are truth, beauty, strangeness and charm, which also seems lie a fair summary of the components of Twin Peaks. Ironically, the 1978 TV series Quark was short on most of these.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 12:26 PM on October 6, 2014
Ontkean, 67, lives in Hawaii,
just two blocks up on Queer Street.
posted by Beardman at 12:27 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
just two blocks up on Queer Street.
posted by Beardman at 12:27 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
You people realize this is going to be rebooted as a variety show, right? Sans Cooper and Truman, it'll feature song and dance numbers and sketch comedy featuring Phyllis Diller and Charo. Then they'll go on tour with a crappy live show and we'll lap all of it up like starving dogs.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 12:27 PM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 12:27 PM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
You people realize this is going to be rebooted as a variety show, right?
Hey guys, remember On The Air?
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:31 PM on October 6, 2014 [7 favorites]
Hey guys, remember On The Air?
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:31 PM on October 6, 2014 [7 favorites]
That link bafflingly fails to mention that Catherine Coulson, whom we know as the Log Lady, has a longer list of credentials on IMDB under Camera and Electrical Department than as a performer.
Yep, and she was assistant director to Lynch on Eraserhead. In addition, she was married to Jack Nance for a few years back in the 70s.
posted by aught at 12:31 PM on October 6, 2014
Yep, and she was assistant director to Lynch on Eraserhead. In addition, she was married to Jack Nance for a few years back in the 70s.
posted by aught at 12:31 PM on October 6, 2014
I am really hoping to finally see the White Lodge, but with Don Davis (who played Major Briggs) dead, I imagine that's not as likely.
posted by leotrotsky at 12:39 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 12:39 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
confirming that the new episodes "will be set in the present day"
Well, some sort of alternate dimension present day, I'm guessing. One that looks like a warped vision of 50's small town americana, and one where cell phones and the internet still haven't been adopted. The best version of the present day, really.
posted by naju at 12:41 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Well, some sort of alternate dimension present day, I'm guessing. One that looks like a warped vision of 50's small town americana, and one where cell phones and the internet still haven't been adopted. The best version of the present day, really.
posted by naju at 12:41 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
For those looking to get in the mood, I encourage you all to play the Twin Peaks Atari Video Game.
posted by leotrotsky at 12:41 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by leotrotsky at 12:41 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
They could just get Moira Kelly to play Major Briggs.
posted by furnace.heart at 12:41 PM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
posted by furnace.heart at 12:41 PM on October 6, 2014 [9 favorites]
Between this and the X-Files reboot, the Dream of the 90s really is alive.
My friend Google does not seem to have heard of this.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:42 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
My friend Google does not seem to have heard of this.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:42 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Tickets for Twin Peaks Fest have just gone on sale. People are going to be going nuts!
posted by leotrotsky at 12:44 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by leotrotsky at 12:44 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
> "Nance himself died in 1996, from injuries incurred during a drunken brawl outside a donut store."
> That actually sounds oddly Twin-Peaks-ish in a way.
Who killed Pete Martell?
posted by goethean at 12:45 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
> That actually sounds oddly Twin-Peaks-ish in a way.
Who killed Pete Martell?
posted by goethean at 12:45 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
That gum you like is going to come back in style.
posted by leotrotsky at 12:51 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by leotrotsky at 12:51 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
My friend Google does not seem to have heard of this.
If You Want To Believe, listen to the X-Files Files from a few weeks back with Steve Asbell, the FOX Executive VP who got the second movie made.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:56 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
If You Want To Believe, listen to the X-Files Files from a few weeks back with Steve Asbell, the FOX Executive VP who got the second movie made.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:56 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Thanks, robocop.
The second movie was baaaaaad, though. The score was terrible, the pacing was leaden, and the scene with Scully prepping for surgery by Googling stuff was like something out of a high school sophomore's vision of the world.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:58 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
The second movie was baaaaaad, though. The score was terrible, the pacing was leaden, and the scene with Scully prepping for surgery by Googling stuff was like something out of a high school sophomore's vision of the world.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:58 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
They could just get Moira Kelly to play Major Briggs.
From the looks of recent pics of Lara Flynn Boyle and what appear to be ill-advised cosmetic surgeries, I think Moira Kelly will be plenty busy reprising her role as replacement-Donna.
posted by aught at 1:08 PM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
From the looks of recent pics of Lara Flynn Boyle and what appear to be ill-advised cosmetic surgeries, I think Moira Kelly will be plenty busy reprising her role as replacement-Donna.
posted by aught at 1:08 PM on October 6, 2014 [4 favorites]
I've said it before, but The Killing (especially the first two seasons) was basically Twin Peaks sober.
posted by Sys Rq at 1:11 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Sys Rq at 1:11 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Hey guys, remember On The Air?
Still my favorite David Lynch TV series.
posted by stenseng at 1:11 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Still my favorite David Lynch TV series.
posted by stenseng at 1:11 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
...basically Twin Peaks sober.
That sounds terrible. Why would you want Twin Peaks sober?
what would you do with all that coffee and pie without a hangover morning?
posted by furnace.heart at 1:13 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
That sounds terrible. Why would you want Twin Peaks sober?
what would you do with all that coffee and pie without a hangover morning?
posted by furnace.heart at 1:13 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
David Lynch started out as a painter, and when he talks about film, he talks of it in terms of composition of light and sound, shaping themselves around ideas which must be depicted as honestly as possible. For all he is accused of woo and artsiness, he's the most craft-obsessed director I know of, more so even than Wes Anderson because he has no particular stylistic focus and his ideas seem far more shocking and original for the fact that they stand so perfectly alone.
I don't think that Twin Peaks ever worked flawlessly without him at the helm, not even in earlier episodes, and the reason for that is that it requires, I believe, a certain unflinching dedication to its many seemingly-conflicted ideas. Lynch dedicates himself as singlemindedly to his soap opera melodrama or his genuine teenage awkwardness as he does to his stranger or darker subjects; Blue Velvet does a better job of portraying awkward teen flirtation than anything I've seen elsewhere, making it seem stupid and horrifying and adorable and hilarious and just a touch creepy all at the same time. ("I used to know a guy who lived there, had the BIGGEST TONGUE.") He manages the trick of depicting characters with overwhelming personalities and motives that simultaneously seem like they're actual people feeling these things, rather than two-dimensional blocks.
Sometimes this is especially obvious; only Lynch, I feel, made James and Donna seem worthwhile, and he did it by feeding into their mawkish sentimentality while giving them this feeling of, these are teens, they are cornball and confused and stupid, but they mean the things they feel and stumble about trying to say, and there's something beautiful in their naïveté when their classmate has been raped and murdered, because that's how youth should be. And they are young and beautiful and trying to do the right thing, so okay, let's laugh at them, they're stupid, but also we can root for them — and when they hurt each other, that hurt is real too, and it was their youth and idiocy that caused it but that doesn't make the pain any less significant. Even when this gets pushed to soapish levels of intensity, it works, because Lynch is willing to let them be the characters that they are, and he surrounds them with so many more-"serious" events that he both contextualizes the relative insignificance of their dramas and lets those dramas be treated as if they matter just as much, at least to the people that're experiencing them. (Is heartbreak any less meaningfully painful for its being suffered by most people in their lives? I'd argue no, and that its universality is what gives us such a general connection to it — even if that same universality lets most people who try to depict it take some lazy shortcuts in doing so, which to my mind Lynch does not.)
In every non-Lynch episode, James and Donna are insufferable. They become flat, half-parodic representations of the young lovers that they were meant to be. But in Lynch's hands, there's a reality to them that makes them work, at least for me. Like Laura Dern said of Lynch after Blue Velvet, his secret is that he believes in the robins and the blue skies as much as he believes in Frank Booth. There is no ironic detachment, no attempted commentary being made. It is all real, even when we feel it should not be. Mawkishness and demons alike.
You see this with Super Nadine too, who is absurd and pointless outside of Lynch's two goes with her. You also see this a little bit in Dale Cooper, whose moral conviction seems a bit more deranged and cruel when Lynch portrays it, but in a way that makes Cooper human, rather than Lawful Good Paladin. He is imperfect, in ways that make his dedication to nobility and justice more impressive, rather than less so. Because he's working at this. He believes it. And through his dedication and his faith, he makes wonderful things happen.
This, for me, is why Lynch's Peaks feel timeless, even the parts that should be dated. (And they were dated in the early 90s too — twenty-five years doesn't add much more to that.) It's also why "Lonely Souls", the episode in which Laura's killer is ultimately revealed, is still my favorite episode of television of all time. The first thirty minutes are tremendously good as-is, but the final sequence in which the killer strikes again simply feels sublimely-crafted. It breaks every rule of tasteful filmmaking. It uses shitty special effects, over-the-top lighting effects, cornball slow motion, all manner of hamminess and melodrama. And it is terrifying. All the cheap effects, the overextreme production, feels like reality shattering, which it is. It takes a horrifying revelation and superbly fucks with your ability to process it rationally, because as it's sinking in the killer is attacking Maddie, attacking her in a space which feels far too small, and she simply cannot get away. And it's horridly soap-opera-y and horridly low-budget supernatural, and this sequence is both of those things at once — it's at once absurdly mundane and the killer is crying and it's so ridiculous you should be able to smack them and say "Get the fuck over yourself, you spoiled child," and at the same time a demon is ripping you to pieces and real life is broken and things can never be put back together again the same way. And all the while "It's a Wonderful World" is skipping and Julee Cruise is singing and the whole damn town is sobbing over all their individual woes, over the collected wrongnesses of the world, and then the Giant appears to stare somberly at Dale Cooper, Agent of Justice, and tell him accusingly that it is all happening again. Justice has failed once more. Other universes exist and magic is real, but a human being has done a horrifyingly human thing and life is just gonna have to go on, one day at a time, until it doesn't anymore and you're passed out on the stairs and your daughter is dead and your niece is being cut into pieces and stuffed into a golf bag and there is literally nothing, nothing, beyond ethics and human decency and the threat of the law and our love for one another that prevents any one of us from doing this to anybody else at any time, and it happens all the time, because even in the middle of the loveliest little town on the planet people are hurting each other all over.
You can't convey that sentiment in words. It's emotional more than anything, light and sound, sound and light, surreal images which make no sense but are a part of the composition nonetheless. And the melodrama and the horror and the absurdity, they're all there too, and the more you can express them without giggling or squirming about and feeling awkward about yourself, the more you will say the thing which cannot be directly said, and for my money Lynch still does this better than any other filmmaker living. It is not a riddle that you're meant to solve. It is not a commentary, one piece saying something about the other. It is all the pieces at once, in parallel, all real, operating in tandem and in layers and with dimensions that the mind is only tricked into seeing when they're all laid out in a very particular order. It's beautiful, and at some point Lynch and Peaks specifically sort of saved and changed my life because of it, and I am grateful beyond words that this is being made, and in the exact particular way that it is. Nine more hours of Lynch is the most exciting news I've heard all month, and this has not been a particularly boring month at that.
posted by rorgy at 1:18 PM on October 6, 2014 [56 favorites]
I don't think that Twin Peaks ever worked flawlessly without him at the helm, not even in earlier episodes, and the reason for that is that it requires, I believe, a certain unflinching dedication to its many seemingly-conflicted ideas. Lynch dedicates himself as singlemindedly to his soap opera melodrama or his genuine teenage awkwardness as he does to his stranger or darker subjects; Blue Velvet does a better job of portraying awkward teen flirtation than anything I've seen elsewhere, making it seem stupid and horrifying and adorable and hilarious and just a touch creepy all at the same time. ("I used to know a guy who lived there, had the BIGGEST TONGUE.") He manages the trick of depicting characters with overwhelming personalities and motives that simultaneously seem like they're actual people feeling these things, rather than two-dimensional blocks.
Sometimes this is especially obvious; only Lynch, I feel, made James and Donna seem worthwhile, and he did it by feeding into their mawkish sentimentality while giving them this feeling of, these are teens, they are cornball and confused and stupid, but they mean the things they feel and stumble about trying to say, and there's something beautiful in their naïveté when their classmate has been raped and murdered, because that's how youth should be. And they are young and beautiful and trying to do the right thing, so okay, let's laugh at them, they're stupid, but also we can root for them — and when they hurt each other, that hurt is real too, and it was their youth and idiocy that caused it but that doesn't make the pain any less significant. Even when this gets pushed to soapish levels of intensity, it works, because Lynch is willing to let them be the characters that they are, and he surrounds them with so many more-"serious" events that he both contextualizes the relative insignificance of their dramas and lets those dramas be treated as if they matter just as much, at least to the people that're experiencing them. (Is heartbreak any less meaningfully painful for its being suffered by most people in their lives? I'd argue no, and that its universality is what gives us such a general connection to it — even if that same universality lets most people who try to depict it take some lazy shortcuts in doing so, which to my mind Lynch does not.)
In every non-Lynch episode, James and Donna are insufferable. They become flat, half-parodic representations of the young lovers that they were meant to be. But in Lynch's hands, there's a reality to them that makes them work, at least for me. Like Laura Dern said of Lynch after Blue Velvet, his secret is that he believes in the robins and the blue skies as much as he believes in Frank Booth. There is no ironic detachment, no attempted commentary being made. It is all real, even when we feel it should not be. Mawkishness and demons alike.
You see this with Super Nadine too, who is absurd and pointless outside of Lynch's two goes with her. You also see this a little bit in Dale Cooper, whose moral conviction seems a bit more deranged and cruel when Lynch portrays it, but in a way that makes Cooper human, rather than Lawful Good Paladin. He is imperfect, in ways that make his dedication to nobility and justice more impressive, rather than less so. Because he's working at this. He believes it. And through his dedication and his faith, he makes wonderful things happen.
This, for me, is why Lynch's Peaks feel timeless, even the parts that should be dated. (And they were dated in the early 90s too — twenty-five years doesn't add much more to that.) It's also why "Lonely Souls", the episode in which Laura's killer is ultimately revealed, is still my favorite episode of television of all time. The first thirty minutes are tremendously good as-is, but the final sequence in which the killer strikes again simply feels sublimely-crafted. It breaks every rule of tasteful filmmaking. It uses shitty special effects, over-the-top lighting effects, cornball slow motion, all manner of hamminess and melodrama. And it is terrifying. All the cheap effects, the overextreme production, feels like reality shattering, which it is. It takes a horrifying revelation and superbly fucks with your ability to process it rationally, because as it's sinking in the killer is attacking Maddie, attacking her in a space which feels far too small, and she simply cannot get away. And it's horridly soap-opera-y and horridly low-budget supernatural, and this sequence is both of those things at once — it's at once absurdly mundane and the killer is crying and it's so ridiculous you should be able to smack them and say "Get the fuck over yourself, you spoiled child," and at the same time a demon is ripping you to pieces and real life is broken and things can never be put back together again the same way. And all the while "It's a Wonderful World" is skipping and Julee Cruise is singing and the whole damn town is sobbing over all their individual woes, over the collected wrongnesses of the world, and then the Giant appears to stare somberly at Dale Cooper, Agent of Justice, and tell him accusingly that it is all happening again. Justice has failed once more. Other universes exist and magic is real, but a human being has done a horrifyingly human thing and life is just gonna have to go on, one day at a time, until it doesn't anymore and you're passed out on the stairs and your daughter is dead and your niece is being cut into pieces and stuffed into a golf bag and there is literally nothing, nothing, beyond ethics and human decency and the threat of the law and our love for one another that prevents any one of us from doing this to anybody else at any time, and it happens all the time, because even in the middle of the loveliest little town on the planet people are hurting each other all over.
You can't convey that sentiment in words. It's emotional more than anything, light and sound, sound and light, surreal images which make no sense but are a part of the composition nonetheless. And the melodrama and the horror and the absurdity, they're all there too, and the more you can express them without giggling or squirming about and feeling awkward about yourself, the more you will say the thing which cannot be directly said, and for my money Lynch still does this better than any other filmmaker living. It is not a riddle that you're meant to solve. It is not a commentary, one piece saying something about the other. It is all the pieces at once, in parallel, all real, operating in tandem and in layers and with dimensions that the mind is only tricked into seeing when they're all laid out in a very particular order. It's beautiful, and at some point Lynch and Peaks specifically sort of saved and changed my life because of it, and I am grateful beyond words that this is being made, and in the exact particular way that it is. Nine more hours of Lynch is the most exciting news I've heard all month, and this has not been a particularly boring month at that.
posted by rorgy at 1:18 PM on October 6, 2014 [56 favorites]
Aw, I'm just realizing that it's going to be on Showtime, so I probably won't get to see this for a long, long time.
posted by Room 641-A at 1:49 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Room 641-A at 1:49 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Yes, except the supernatural stuff won't just be a big ol' metafictional tease for the Tumblr folks.
posted by Strange Interlude at 2:03 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Strange Interlude at 2:03 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Well, if I wasn't before, I certainly consider myself one of the happy generations now.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 2:13 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Parasite Unseen at 2:13 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
I am crazy excited about this. It may end up bad and a disappointment, but for now I'm just going to imagine how good it could be and relish that. Time to bust out my red room nails again.
posted by bookish at 2:16 PM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by bookish at 2:16 PM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
(Trying to figure out if there's anyplace I can pick up a cherry pie on the way home from work to celebrate...but it's kinda the wrong season for cherry. Maybe apple will do.)
posted by dnash at 2:17 PM on October 6, 2014
posted by dnash at 2:17 PM on October 6, 2014
(Trying to figure out if there's anyplace I can pick up a cherry pie on the way home from work to celebrate...but it's kinda the wrong season for cherry. Maybe apple will do.)
Carefully organized, stacked donuts will also work in a pinch.
posted by furnace.heart at 2:29 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Carefully organized, stacked donuts will also work in a pinch.
posted by furnace.heart at 2:29 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Angelo Badalamenti is getting up there. Who else could do music so perfect, so 'Peachy Keen'?
The score for Twin Peaks was so, so good. "Haunting" doesn't even begin to say it. I hope they can get Badalamenti to do something for the new series.
posted by mr_roboto at 2:37 PM on October 6, 2014
The score for Twin Peaks was so, so good. "Haunting" doesn't even begin to say it. I hope they can get Badalamenti to do something for the new series.
posted by mr_roboto at 2:37 PM on October 6, 2014
I hope they can get Badalamenti to do something for the new series.
Just use the same stuff. No need to fix what isn't broken.
posted by rocketman at 2:39 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Just use the same stuff. No need to fix what isn't broken.
posted by rocketman at 2:39 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Showtime officially announces David Lynch and Mark Frost's cult TV series "Twin Peaks" will return in 2016. David Lynch confirms via Twitter, and Frost speaks to Variety, confirming that the new episodes "will be set in the present day and continue storylines established in the second season."
In grade 4, my teacher announced to the class that a "blitz" is a word for a sudden overwhelming attack, and then said, "Class, we are going to have a blitz! A handwriting blitz!"
I think that was the last time that a first sentence made me so excited and second sentence so disappointed. I am sure there are people who have been waiting a quarter-century to find more about John Justice Wheeler and Dick Tremayne; I have never met any of them.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 2:40 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
In grade 4, my teacher announced to the class that a "blitz" is a word for a sudden overwhelming attack, and then said, "Class, we are going to have a blitz! A handwriting blitz!"
I think that was the last time that a first sentence made me so excited and second sentence so disappointed. I am sure there are people who have been waiting a quarter-century to find more about John Justice Wheeler and Dick Tremayne; I have never met any of them.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 2:40 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Apparently nobody knows where Everett McGill ("Big Ed") is, and Lynch was putting out feelers trying to find him. His last IMDB credits were in 1999 and he's not in the "then and now" article.
posted by anazgnos at 3:13 PM on October 6, 2014
posted by anazgnos at 3:13 PM on October 6, 2014
I'm excited and frightened at what could be. I had a crush on half the female cast of Twin Peaks. I'm not sure I want to revisit that world the same way I don't want to see all my high school crushes again.
posted by cazoo at 3:22 PM on October 6, 2014
posted by cazoo at 3:22 PM on October 6, 2014
The second season of Twin Peaks was awful. Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's beginning of his descent into self-indulgent filmmaking, a tedious excursion from which he has never escaped. The original Twin Peaks has not aged well at all, particularly in an era where supernatural serial drama is a regular occurrence on TV.
The second season wasn't as good as the first, but the rest of this comment...I don't even know where to begin.
posted by Hoopo at 4:09 PM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
The second season wasn't as good as the first, but the rest of this comment...I don't even know where to begin.
posted by Hoopo at 4:09 PM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
i hope they do a dark and gritty take on this
posted by turbid dahlia at 4:40 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by turbid dahlia at 4:40 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
I hope Agent Cooper wears JNCOs and Oakleys and big fat nu-metal riffs go bah-bah-bah when he finds clues. And when people tell him to do stuff, he just strokes his soul patch and peels out in a flame-painted Honda Prelude.
posted by Sticherbeast at 5:20 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by Sticherbeast at 5:20 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
I have to agree, the second season was awful. Like X Files and Lost, it became apparent that the writers were making shit up as it went along. In theory it's a liberating break from linear storytelling, in reality its an exercise in tedium and frustration.
posted by Ber at 6:09 PM on October 6, 2014
posted by Ber at 6:09 PM on October 6, 2014
I'm having trouble concentrating on anything else today. Twin Peaks was my favourite show for a long time and we might come full circle back to where it is again.
But my thoughts on S1 v S2 are this: season one is perfect, season two is imperfect but BETTER. The heights of S2 are far higher than the heights of S1. And, yes, it suffered a mid-season slump, as a lot of 22-episode seasons are wont to do. But I think it's about four episodes until it's back on track again - the final four episodes are TP firing on all cylinders again. And the final episode is mesmerising. I literally have no idea how many times I've watched that finale.
As for FWWM, I think that's Lynch's masterpiece. I can't see what threads from that film are folded into the new series in 2016.
And sure, we don't need to hear about Dick Tremayne or John Justice Wheeler again - but do people not remember all the cliffhangers from the final episode? Is Ben Donna's father? Is Ben dead? Is Audrey dead? Is Pete dead? (Given Jack Nance's passing, I guess he is.)
And HOW'S ANNIE?
posted by crossoverman at 6:28 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
But my thoughts on S1 v S2 are this: season one is perfect, season two is imperfect but BETTER. The heights of S2 are far higher than the heights of S1. And, yes, it suffered a mid-season slump, as a lot of 22-episode seasons are wont to do. But I think it's about four episodes until it's back on track again - the final four episodes are TP firing on all cylinders again. And the final episode is mesmerising. I literally have no idea how many times I've watched that finale.
As for FWWM, I think that's Lynch's masterpiece. I can't see what threads from that film are folded into the new series in 2016.
And sure, we don't need to hear about Dick Tremayne or John Justice Wheeler again - but do people not remember all the cliffhangers from the final episode? Is Ben Donna's father? Is Ben dead? Is Audrey dead? Is Pete dead? (Given Jack Nance's passing, I guess he is.)
And HOW'S ANNIE?
posted by crossoverman at 6:28 PM on October 6, 2014 [2 favorites]
Probably even more to the point, if the new series is set present day, what has BOB been doing with Agent Cooper's body for the last 25 years?
posted by localroger at 7:04 PM on October 6, 2014
posted by localroger at 7:04 PM on October 6, 2014
Co-starring in Showgirls?
posted by Strange Interlude at 7:08 PM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
posted by Strange Interlude at 7:08 PM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
What timing! I am in my first full rewatch of the entire two seasons since it aired. My BF hadn't seen anything past season 1, so this is all new for him. The final handful of episodes are really gripping now that we've gotten past the Donna/James crap. I don't even mind the Nadine storyline. Windham Earle is too conventional of a baddie.
Unless Lynch shot sufficient footage for nine episodes in 1990-1991, I don't think this will be anything but disappointing.
I hope I'm wrong.
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 7:29 PM on October 6, 2014
Unless Lynch shot sufficient footage for nine episodes in 1990-1991, I don't think this will be anything but disappointing.
I hope I'm wrong.
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 7:29 PM on October 6, 2014
Hey...I just wondered if all of this means that whoever it is that's keeping the lights on over at Win-Mill Productions (a publisher of fine '80s-/'90s-era fanzines) will finally get around to reprinting or collecting the entire run of Wrapped In Plastic, their TP zine. I didn't even realize that they were still publishing WIP well into the mid-2000s.
posted by Strange Interlude at 7:33 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Strange Interlude at 7:33 PM on October 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Or perhaps Bob has convinced Dale that he's the Mayor of Portland.
posted by mubba at 7:36 PM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by mubba at 7:36 PM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
One of the editors of Wrapped in Plastic blogged today about resurrecting the magazine in some way - probably online. Sadly, the other editor passed away a few years ago.
posted by crossoverman at 7:49 PM on October 6, 2014
posted by crossoverman at 7:49 PM on October 6, 2014
I think it will be interesting with a new cast. In a lot of ways, that's going to feel as new and different to me as the respite from the long hiatus will. I can only hope that the flow will tie together with the series I love, effectively enough to immerse myself to the extent I did in the original. I'll always have a special place in my heart for the original cast.
posted by Brak at 8:42 PM on October 6, 2014
posted by Brak at 8:42 PM on October 6, 2014
Everyone is talking about Lynch but I'm excited about Mark Frost. He wrote one of my favorite books "List of 7", a Lovecraftian Sherlock Holmes type story about a young Arthur Conan Doyle.
posted by JARED!!! at 9:05 PM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by JARED!!! at 9:05 PM on October 6, 2014 [3 favorites]
My log told me this would happen.
posted by Jacqueline at 9:18 PM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
posted by Jacqueline at 9:18 PM on October 6, 2014 [6 favorites]
I am really hoping to finally see the White Lodge, but with Don Davis (who played Major Briggs) dead, I imagine that's not as likely.
The Black Lodge *IS* the White Lodge.
posted by FatherDagon at 12:02 AM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
The Black Lodge *IS* the White Lodge.
posted by FatherDagon at 12:02 AM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
Well, the red room is the "waiting room" - and you can get to the Black or White Lodge through there.
posted by crossoverman at 2:05 AM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by crossoverman at 2:05 AM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
Dammit, I just sold my Diane: The Twin Peaks Tapes of Agent Cooper audio cassette on Ebay this summer. I should have waited another couple of years.
posted by usonian at 5:17 AM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by usonian at 5:17 AM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
I am really hoping to finally see the White Lodge, but with Don Davis (who played Major Briggs) dead, I imagine that's not as likely.
The Black Lodge *IS* the White Lodge.
There's lots of ways to read that sentence. You're going to need to expand on that.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:46 AM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
I'm hopeful that this project will turn out to be a table lined with stacked donuts but deep down I'm worried that we're about to get all our garmonbozia.
posted by komara at 7:31 AM on October 7, 2014
posted by komara at 7:31 AM on October 7, 2014
The original inspired so many 'Oh Fuck' moments. it's hard to explain to novices...
posted by judson at 9:30 AM on October 7, 2014
posted by judson at 9:30 AM on October 7, 2014
I am so excited about this. It's time for a really good rewatch. I watched the first season in 2002, aged 18, when I had the house to myself for a few weeks. I watched the movie first, then all the episodes - hiring them from the video store on VHS a few cassettes at a time. I got my then best friend into it too - but when she stopped watching two episodes before the end of season 2, it drove me nuts. It definitely flagged a bit then, but the last episodes were worth persevering for!! and MAN... to get that close to finishing it and then not?!? I mean, how could you?!??
Needless to say, she's no longer a friend of mine.
I loved FWWM, but it's been such a long time since I've seen it. I wanted to finish re-watching season 2 first, and it's been a while since I've done that... I mean, fuck. I bought the DVDs in 2010, and I *still* haven't opened them. WTF?!?
Oh well, I commence Funemployment at the end of next week. Think I know what the first thing I do will be!
posted by jonathanstrange at 4:28 PM on October 7, 2014
Needless to say, she's no longer a friend of mine.
I loved FWWM, but it's been such a long time since I've seen it. I wanted to finish re-watching season 2 first, and it's been a while since I've done that... I mean, fuck. I bought the DVDs in 2010, and I *still* haven't opened them. WTF?!?
Oh well, I commence Funemployment at the end of next week. Think I know what the first thing I do will be!
posted by jonathanstrange at 4:28 PM on October 7, 2014
As an addendum to this:
We just watched the final episode. BF's reaction to the last shot was pretty much the same as 25-year-old me in 1991: WTF?!?!?!!?!?!? "How's Annie?" indeed, crossoverman.
I had forgotten about the bank explosion, the rainbow trout/truck theft, the awakening of Nadine, and the truncated civil disobedience by Audrey. All these events are made more poignant by the sad realization for some that things are the same as always in Twin Peaks.
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 6:50 PM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
We just watched the final episode. BF's reaction to the last shot was pretty much the same as 25-year-old me in 1991: WTF?!?!?!!?!?!? "How's Annie?" indeed, crossoverman.
I had forgotten about the bank explosion, the rainbow trout/truck theft, the awakening of Nadine, and the truncated civil disobedience by Audrey. All these events are made more poignant by the sad realization for some that things are the same as always in Twin Peaks.
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 6:50 PM on October 7, 2014 [1 favorite]
There really are a lot of hanging threads, and I think it's a great idea to get back to it 25 years later. The major characters have probably had kids at this point, Donna and James are possibly married and detest one another, Cooper (being ridden by Bob) has had the resources of the FBI (hell, maybe the CIA if he got a transfer) to kill with impunity while being a much more stable vessel than Leland, Coop (real Coop) has been trapped inside the lodges, Audrey (amid the declining mental health of Ben) has taken over the family business, Catherine owns Ghostwood (I think?) and would be intent on developing it, Bobby has lost his father and maybe moved on from the town.
Anyway, I think there's a lot of cool stuff that you could build a story off of based on the final episode and FWWM.
posted by codacorolla at 7:02 PM on October 7, 2014
Anyway, I think there's a lot of cool stuff that you could build a story off of based on the final episode and FWWM.
posted by codacorolla at 7:02 PM on October 7, 2014
I just am curious to see how Audrey would have survived the bank explosion.
posted by Dr-Baa at 6:48 AM on October 8, 2014
posted by Dr-Baa at 6:48 AM on October 8, 2014
In a way, we know what happened to Audrey. There was talk of a spin-off series in which Audrey goes to Hollywood to pursue an acting career, and opened with her driving along Mulholland Drive.
Then Lynch cast her in Wild At Heart, making her a character with a traumatic head injury as a result of a car crash.
Then Lynch made Mulholland Drive, itself originally conceived as a television series, that opens with a car on Mulholland Drive, a crash, and a dark-haired woman with a traumatic head injury, who then becomes a successful actress.
Audrey Horne became Rita/Camilla Rhodes.
posted by maxsparber at 8:33 AM on October 8, 2014 [8 favorites]
Then Lynch cast her in Wild At Heart, making her a character with a traumatic head injury as a result of a car crash.
Then Lynch made Mulholland Drive, itself originally conceived as a television series, that opens with a car on Mulholland Drive, a crash, and a dark-haired woman with a traumatic head injury, who then becomes a successful actress.
Audrey Horne became Rita/Camilla Rhodes.
posted by maxsparber at 8:33 AM on October 8, 2014 [8 favorites]
Did James Hurley become Lost Highway's Fred Madison?
posted by codacorolla at 2:13 PM on October 8, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by codacorolla at 2:13 PM on October 8, 2014 [1 favorite]
Don't forget, Ben Horne is Donna's real father! She and Audrey are half-sisters!
But the big question is: Moira Kelly or Lara Flynn Boyle for Donna in the new series? Both?
posted by crossoverman at 6:31 PM on October 8, 2014
But the big question is: Moira Kelly or Lara Flynn Boyle for Donna in the new series? Both?
posted by crossoverman at 6:31 PM on October 8, 2014
With Lynch and Frost at the helm this is pretty much guaranteed to be interesting no matter how it meshes with our expectations.
When they say "continue storylines established in the second season" I sure hope they're talking about the Lodges and the fate of Dale Cooper and not the random quirky soap opera stuff the writers came up with to fill the void after they were forced to solve Laura's murder early on.
posted by usonian at 6:03 AM on October 9, 2014
When they say "continue storylines established in the second season" I sure hope they're talking about the Lodges and the fate of Dale Cooper and not the random quirky soap opera stuff the writers came up with to fill the void after they were forced to solve Laura's murder early on.
posted by usonian at 6:03 AM on October 9, 2014
Also, are they going to explain how Doc Hayward and Sarah Palmer managed to raise a secret daughter in New York City?
posted by usonian at 6:05 AM on October 9, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by usonian at 6:05 AM on October 9, 2014 [1 favorite]
When they say "continue storylines established in the second season" I sure hope they're talking about the Lodges and the fate of Dale Cooper and not the random quirky soap opera stuff the writers came up with to fill the void after they were forced to solve Laura's murder early on.
I imagine the only reason we'll see Dick Tremayne is so that someone can murder him.
posted by crossoverman at 7:13 PM on October 9, 2014 [2 favorites]
I imagine the only reason we'll see Dick Tremayne is so that someone can murder him.
posted by crossoverman at 7:13 PM on October 9, 2014 [2 favorites]
"Flatiron Books To Publish 'The Secret Lives Of Twin Peaks' By Show Co-creator Mark Frost"
(pdf press release, Tor blogpost)
"The novel reveals what has happened to the people of the iconic fictional town since we last saw them 25 years ago, and offers a deeper glimpse into the central mystery from the original series"
posted by MCMikeNamara at 9:07 AM on October 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
(pdf press release, Tor blogpost)
"The novel reveals what has happened to the people of the iconic fictional town since we last saw them 25 years ago, and offers a deeper glimpse into the central mystery from the original series"
posted by MCMikeNamara at 9:07 AM on October 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
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