You let me down but Chavo never once did.
May 20, 2015 9:03 AM Subscribe
2 music video takes on the squared circle were (coincidentally) released this week: The Mountain Goats' The Legend of Chavo Guerrero and A Tribe Called Red's Suplex (ft Northern Voice).
(Bonus: Cyndi Lauper - (The Goonies 'R') Good Enough part 1 and part 2)
(Bonus: Cyndi Lauper - (The Goonies 'R') Good Enough part 1 and part 2)
Someone was triangulating on my interests crazy-hard when the Mountain Goats decided to make Beat the Champ.
I need this album in my life; here it comes!
posted by Parasite Unseen at 9:27 AM on May 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
I need this album in my life; here it comes!
posted by Parasite Unseen at 9:27 AM on May 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
Chavo Guerrero Sr geeking out over that song is one of the sweeter things I've seen on Twitter recently.
posted by selfnoise at 9:33 AM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by selfnoise at 9:33 AM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
Beat the Champ has been steadily growing on me to the point that it might be my favorite since Heretic Pride. Though the best Mountain Goats-related concept album still remains bassist Peter Peter Hughes' FANGIO, the tale of racing-legend-turned-immortal-assassin Juan Manuel Fangio's self-imposed black ops penance to make up for not using his fame to speak out against the Dirty War in Argentina.
posted by jason_steakums at 9:34 AM on May 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by jason_steakums at 9:34 AM on May 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
Wrestling and music go together so well, such as Killer Mike's "Ric Flair" .
posted by Cyclopsis Raptor at 11:09 AM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Cyclopsis Raptor at 11:09 AM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
Chavo's reaction to the lyric referring to the scattered ashes of John's dead stepfather is pretty priceless.
posted by howfar at 11:23 AM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by howfar at 11:23 AM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
Honestly I kind of thought this album had to be a bad joke when I first heard about it, but John Darnielle's hyperintense neck-tendon-bulging delivery looks so very right coming out of the mouths of 80s pro wrestler dudes.
posted by nebulawindphone at 11:34 AM on May 20, 2015
posted by nebulawindphone at 11:34 AM on May 20, 2015
Love these.
The Tribe Called Red video was evocative for me, having had many, many wrestling matches against a pillow on a pull-out couch ring in my youth.
Another very strong, "Thank heavens I was raised in the pre-Youtube era so there is no lasting evidence of my youthful indiscretions" example: I once recorded an ode to Jushin Liger on dulcimer that is not dissimilar to the Mountain Goats song, except mine was terrible.
posted by The Gooch at 11:40 AM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
The Tribe Called Red video was evocative for me, having had many, many wrestling matches against a pillow on a pull-out couch ring in my youth.
Another very strong, "Thank heavens I was raised in the pre-Youtube era so there is no lasting evidence of my youthful indiscretions" example: I once recorded an ode to Jushin Liger on dulcimer that is not dissimilar to the Mountain Goats song, except mine was terrible.
posted by The Gooch at 11:40 AM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
I am not a fan of wrestling and am relatively devoid of father issues, so I'm not sure why The Legend of Chavo Guerrero affects me as much as it does, but reading John Darnielle on making the video isn't helping.
posted by ckape at 11:45 AM on May 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by ckape at 11:45 AM on May 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
Powderhound is the best Baron von Raschke that is not the actual Baron von Raschke.
AND DAT IS ALL DE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW.
posted by delfin at 12:22 PM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
AND DAT IS ALL DE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW.
posted by delfin at 12:22 PM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
Can someone please post a link to the tweets?
posted by Old Man Wilson at 1:20 PM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Old Man Wilson at 1:20 PM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
Oh man. This is great, resonates deep. I did pray every week for the death of Tirantes, the dirtiest, cheatiest, corruptest referee ever to set foot in the Cuadrilatero.
I will shows these to my coworkers who have such a hard time understanding how it was growing up as a fan of lucha libre, reading lucha libre comics and going to the arenas a couple of times a year.
Imagine being six years old and religiously reading superhero comics every week. Substitute Batman or your favorite superhero in the story if you want.
You get so excited as the story slowly builds up to a showdown between your favorite superhero and the villain of the season.
Finally after a few weeks you turn on the TV and watch your superhero beat the crap out of some villain, but then the villain cheats, and your hero loses the battle.
Heartbroken you wait for next week's comic, were you can see your hero recovering from the fight, training harder, saving orphans and old ladies, and preparing for the next battle.
Where it becomes different than normal comic fandom, is that on a given Sunday, your superhero is not fighting in far away Gotham City, or the Arena Mexico in Mexico City, or the Arena Coliseo in Guadalajara. They are fighting at the bullring in your crappy little hometown.
You get to go see your superhero fighting live in front of your eyes. You cheer and scream and cry. You can smell their sweat sweat and hear the villain's heavy breathing.
He has your hero beat, bloody and almost unconscious on the floor. But the secret training you read about in the comics pays off, and your superhero wins.
You get to say a few words to them, and they even sign your trading cards.
Then you go home and are the happiest kid in the world for months, because unlike Mikey at Disneyland or Santa Claus at the mall or all the Supermans and Batmans you've seen at birthday parties and fairs, these are not just guys wearing the suit. These are the real deal, the original, the guys you read about in the comics.
Imagine if you could see the real Batman or Superman on any given weekend. And they sign your cards and thank you for being there.
That is how it felt to get an autograph from Rayo de Jalisco Jr.
posted by Doroteo Arango II at 1:45 PM on May 20, 2015 [20 favorites]
I will shows these to my coworkers who have such a hard time understanding how it was growing up as a fan of lucha libre, reading lucha libre comics and going to the arenas a couple of times a year.
Imagine being six years old and religiously reading superhero comics every week. Substitute Batman or your favorite superhero in the story if you want.
You get so excited as the story slowly builds up to a showdown between your favorite superhero and the villain of the season.
Finally after a few weeks you turn on the TV and watch your superhero beat the crap out of some villain, but then the villain cheats, and your hero loses the battle.
Heartbroken you wait for next week's comic, were you can see your hero recovering from the fight, training harder, saving orphans and old ladies, and preparing for the next battle.
Where it becomes different than normal comic fandom, is that on a given Sunday, your superhero is not fighting in far away Gotham City, or the Arena Mexico in Mexico City, or the Arena Coliseo in Guadalajara. They are fighting at the bullring in your crappy little hometown.
You get to go see your superhero fighting live in front of your eyes. You cheer and scream and cry. You can smell their sweat sweat and hear the villain's heavy breathing.
He has your hero beat, bloody and almost unconscious on the floor. But the secret training you read about in the comics pays off, and your superhero wins.
You get to say a few words to them, and they even sign your trading cards.
Then you go home and are the happiest kid in the world for months, because unlike Mikey at Disneyland or Santa Claus at the mall or all the Supermans and Batmans you've seen at birthday parties and fairs, these are not just guys wearing the suit. These are the real deal, the original, the guys you read about in the comics.
Imagine if you could see the real Batman or Superman on any given weekend. And they sign your cards and thank you for being there.
That is how it felt to get an autograph from Rayo de Jalisco Jr.
posted by Doroteo Arango II at 1:45 PM on May 20, 2015 [20 favorites]
I am not a fan of wrestling and am relatively devoid of father issues, so I'm not sure why The Legend of Chavo Guerrero affects me as much as it does
It seems to me that it's so affecting because it builds to a statement about how good fatherhood can be, and how rewarding, with only a hint of the pain examined in The Sunset Tree. It reminds me of Pale Green Things, in some of the themes it evokes. More than anything else, it seems to reflect the loss that bad and abusive parents experience, for them it is often not so sweet to grow old. So it speaks to a wider audience, including anyone who has ever aspired to be a good parent, with all the work and risk and wonder that entails.
posted by howfar at 2:32 PM on May 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
It seems to me that it's so affecting because it builds to a statement about how good fatherhood can be, and how rewarding, with only a hint of the pain examined in The Sunset Tree. It reminds me of Pale Green Things, in some of the themes it evokes. More than anything else, it seems to reflect the loss that bad and abusive parents experience, for them it is often not so sweet to grow old. So it speaks to a wider audience, including anyone who has ever aspired to be a good parent, with all the work and risk and wonder that entails.
posted by howfar at 2:32 PM on May 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
I really hope Werewolf Gimmick is the next Beat the Champ video because it is the best thing.
FULL WEREWOLF OFF THE BUCKLE LIKE AN ANGEL STRAIGHT FROM HELL!
posted by jason_steakums at 6:40 PM on May 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
FULL WEREWOLF OFF THE BUCKLE LIKE AN ANGEL STRAIGHT FROM HELL!
posted by jason_steakums at 6:40 PM on May 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
If you're liking the Mountain Goats song you had better go listen to Foreign Object because it's great and then we can both be cursed by this earworm that we dare not sing to ourselves in public!
posted by capricorn at 7:23 PM on May 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by capricorn at 7:23 PM on May 20, 2015 [3 favorites]
That is how it felt to get an autograph from Rayo de Jalisco Jr.
That's wonderful. I feel like Suplex really gets in to that.
posted by Theta States at 7:58 PM on May 20, 2015
That's wonderful. I feel like Suplex really gets in to that.
posted by Theta States at 7:58 PM on May 20, 2015
If you're liking the Mountain Goats song you had better go listen to Foreign Object  because it's great and then we can both be cursed by this earworm that we dare not sing to ourselves in public!
I don't know what's worse, that or Cut Off Their Thumbs, which I once got caught singing out loud in public. At least I was outside, so "I'm gonna kill everyone in this room!" was slightly less plausible.
posted by rhiannonstone at 8:37 PM on May 20, 2015
I don't know what's worse, that or Cut Off Their Thumbs, which I once got caught singing out loud in public. At least I was outside, so "I'm gonna kill everyone in this room!" was slightly less plausible.
posted by rhiannonstone at 8:37 PM on May 20, 2015
"I personally will stab you in the eye with a foreign object" - lyric of the year every year forever
posted by jason_steakums at 8:46 PM on May 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by jason_steakums at 8:46 PM on May 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
After watching this I had the thought: How much would it cost to commission The Mountain Goats to write a song about Leo Burke and Atlantic Grand Prix Wrestling, then I did a bit of Googling and Christmas came when I saw that Halifax rapper Buck 65 already made a video featuring stylized wrestlers and it uses the theme song from AGPW as the backing sample.
Dang video. A news article about the making of the video is here.
posted by Space Coyote at 11:14 PM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
Dang video. A news article about the making of the video is here.
posted by Space Coyote at 11:14 PM on May 20, 2015 [1 favorite]
After watching this I had the thought: How much would it cost to commission The Mountain Goats to write a song
Some people just ask directly. :)
So by the end of this tour, we shall hear Song for Sasha Banks!
posted by Theta States at 6:35 AM on May 21, 2015
Some people just ask directly. :)
So by the end of this tour, we shall hear Song for Sasha Banks!
posted by Theta States at 6:35 AM on May 21, 2015
I just remembered that I wrote a song about professional wrestling (or at least my friend Richard's love of professional wrestling) about 15 years ago. It was called 'Richard's Watching Wrestling'. The verses were just the names of wrestlers and the choruses were mainly the words 'Richard's watching wrestling' over and over again.
And yet somehow I'm not famous.
posted by howfar at 10:09 AM on May 21, 2015
And yet somehow I'm not famous.
posted by howfar at 10:09 AM on May 21, 2015
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* Almost all; John Darnielle is also awesome.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 9:26 AM on May 20, 2015 [4 favorites]