genderless_nipples confounds Instagram censorship (NSFW)
January 16, 2017 11:51 AM   Subscribe

In order to subvert Instagram's policy of allowing male nipples without restriction and censoring women's nipples without exception, the account genderless_nipples is posting close-up pictures of nipples.

These photos have exposed the absurdity of Instagram's double standard regarding male versus female bodied people by removing a closeup picture of a man's nipple. As the accounts creators noted: “Instagram...can't even tell the difference between male and female nipples; who could!? So why even bother banning female nipples if they can be so similar?”

This project was started in early December by Morgan-Lee Wagner, Evelyne Wyss, and Marco Russo as a reaction to the US Presidential election and is an extension of the Free the Nipple campaign to destigmatize female breasts.
posted by Excommunicated Cardinal (61 comments total) 30 users marked this as a favorite
 
It's hypnotic.
posted by He Is Only The Imposter at 11:52 AM on January 16, 2017 [1 favorite]


(NSFW)
posted by beerperson at 11:54 AM on January 16, 2017 [4 favorites]


It's only NSFW if the nipples are women's! #inception

Also autocorrect on my Samsung phone did not know that "nipples" was a word.
posted by radicalawyer at 11:56 AM on January 16, 2017 [14 favorites]


Is it?
posted by beerperson at 11:57 AM on January 16, 2017 [1 favorite]


It's an even better word if you treat it like a loanword from Spanish. Multipass!
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 12:00 PM on January 16, 2017 [13 favorites]




My NSFW policy is that no one should have to wonder about anything that they see on my screen.

So a page that promises to be full of nipples of any sort is a no go (as would, say, Des Hommes et Des Chatons) .
posted by sparklemotion at 12:03 PM on January 16, 2017 [14 favorites]


Please tell me this doesn't mean we are going to have to have a MeFi NippleIn.
posted by Samizdata at 12:04 PM on January 16, 2017


Or would that be a NippleUp?
posted by Samizdata at 12:05 PM on January 16, 2017


Won't somebody think of the children?

Mommy has dirty chest bumps.
posted by CaseyB at 12:05 PM on January 16, 2017 [7 favorites]


Nipples Safe For Work?
posted by jferg at 12:06 PM on January 16, 2017 [8 favorites]


This is a good thing.
posted by Going To Maine at 12:06 PM on January 16, 2017 [1 favorite]


They could just do closeups of cat and dog bellies to quickly increase the genderless nipple count....
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:08 PM on January 16, 2017 [14 favorites]


If you ever want to desexualize nipples all you have to do is think of their name in German: Brustwarzen, translated literally as breast warts.

If the words 'breast warts' get you all het up then I don't know what to tell you.
posted by komara at 12:11 PM on January 16, 2017 [75 favorites]


So, I'm having top surgery soon. If I posted a picture of my chest today, it would violate the rules. If I post one on January 25th at noon, it would be allowed.
posted by AFABulous at 12:12 PM on January 16, 2017 [111 favorites]


If the words 'breast warts' gets you all het up then I don't know what to tell you.

I suggest "Willkommen zu unserem Land, genießen bitte Ihren Aufenthalt."
posted by howfar at 12:16 PM on January 16, 2017 [2 favorites]


Nipples are fascinating. I never noticed before how much variety they have.
posted by bunderful at 12:16 PM on January 16, 2017 [3 favorites]


This is going to play hell with my new account dedicated to hangup-free snack consumption, genderless_nibbles

(this is very cool)
posted by ominous_paws at 12:16 PM on January 16, 2017 [9 favorites]


A nice idea, even if it's unlikely to change anything.

I really detest this enforcement of a certain provincial American morality on the entire world, as we've seen not just with Instagram, but Facebook, Twitter and even Livejournal back in the day (or going back even further, MTV). Morality should not be determined by a commercial monopolist.
posted by MartinWisse at 12:23 PM on January 16, 2017 [17 favorites]


NSFW comic
posted by martinrebas at 12:27 PM on January 16, 2017 [14 favorites]


The Montgomery's tubercles on some of them may be a bit of a tell...
posted by jim in austin at 12:36 PM on January 16, 2017 [6 favorites]


I celebrate this project subverting the power of a social norm while at the same time withering before the power said social norm wields over my life.
posted by Annika Cicada at 12:40 PM on January 16, 2017 [6 favorites]


This is great and I was enjoying the variety but the one with the tiny beetle really freaked me the fuck out.
posted by billiebee at 12:50 PM on January 16, 2017 [4 favorites]


Thank you, sparklemotion, Des Hommes et Des Chatons is magnificent
posted by gusandrews at 1:05 PM on January 16, 2017 [4 favorites]


I feel conflicted about the whole "free the nipple" movement. While I do think it's a bullshit double standard, I also can't imagine a situation in which I feel comfortable going shirtless until we've eliminated rape culture and so many men feeling like they have a right to say whatever they want about my body at any time. I'm also a fat woman, so any decision in which I share any amount of flesh is made carefully about how strong my mental state of mind is today and whether I can handle disgusted looks or insults.

But I completely understand that this movement wants to desexualize nipples for that very reason. And I hate the idea that we can't work on more than one issue at the same time, but being able to take my shirt off in public is so low on my list of priorities as a feminist. I support the movement in general while wondering if it's getting so much good press because the 'face' of the movement tends to be young, thin white women.

I don't mean to shit all over this. This instagram seems to have a pretty good diversity and the tight cropping is obviously very different than showing topless, conventionally attractive women to make a point. I hope in my lifetime we'll make strides in stopping sexualizing women/girls and I think forcing Instagram to acknowledge their hypocrisy in doing that it will benefit us all. Instagram will often censor fat women's bodies for being obscene while allowing thinner women with less clothing to stay. (I think part of that is based on how many reports they get from people who troll body positive accounts for harassment sakes, but that doesn't excuse it.)

Also, I had to quit Instagram because I am tempted to read the comments, which I did for 5 seconds on this account before I realized it was going to cause me mental harm to see, yet again, how much people online really hate women expressing themselves.
posted by the thorn bushes have roses at 1:14 PM on January 16, 2017 [42 favorites]


To make things worse, if you shorten "nipples" to "nips", you enter the realm of WWII-era racism, unless you're referring to cheese crackers made by Nabisco.

Language. It's a mess.
posted by oneswellfoop at 1:17 PM on January 16, 2017 [7 favorites]


Are all these people shaving their (m/b)oobs? I'm feeling remarkably hirsute.
posted by cichlid ceilidh at 1:18 PM on January 16, 2017 [4 favorites]


"To make things worse, if you shorten "nipples" to "nips", you enter the realm of WWII-era racism"

Unless you're Artemis, in which case nips are just something you blast.
posted by komara at 1:35 PM on January 16, 2017


Flip those nips Peterson! We've got to make the morning edition!
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 1:54 PM on January 16, 2017 [2 favorites]


treating men and women equally in this regard, as everyone obviously should, is not remotely connected to DEsexualizing them. men's chests are not nonsexual(ized) body parts in the eyes of anyone but straight men with absolutely no empathy or imagination, which thank goodness is not all of them. just cause I and most other people are capable of keeping the shock and salacious fascination off our faces when men flaunt themselves bare-bosomed in public doesn't mean we don't notice, look, assess and judge. it's just not socially acceptable to be rude or obvious about it. which is as it should be.

anyway this is a good thing although I do not wish to injure my eyes or my innocence by clicking on it.
posted by queenofbithynia at 1:57 PM on January 16, 2017 [23 favorites]


You can throw this lesbian into the group of someone with no empathy or imagination when it comes to men's chests, queenofbithynia, but I take your point :)
posted by the thorn bushes have roses at 2:01 PM on January 16, 2017 [2 favorites]


oh I didn't mean to accuse lesbians of appreciating them! not necessarily, anyway. heavens no.

only that a particular kind of straight man is the only demographic that I've ever seen flat-out refuse to believe that anybody does or could or would. like, not that they think straight women have inexplicable instincts, but that they think we only pretend to have them to make some kind of ideological point.
posted by queenofbithynia at 2:07 PM on January 16, 2017 [3 favorites]


It was actually a point I really appreciate you making, the fallacy that women are less prone to sexualizing bodies than men because women are the fairer sex or something like that. I'm having a hard time putting it into words, but I have met so many men* who have expressed doubts that women could be fantasizing about sex or ogling attractive bodies and don't realize that it's not that women don't have sexual desires, we've been socialized not to admit to them. (At least I think that's what you meant, apologies if I misread.)

*My male acquintances have all seemed so excited to talk about sex with a lesbian whenever we're out for a drink in case I can unlock the secrets of women's sexuality for them and I have a lot to say about that but it's a total derail.
posted by the thorn bushes have roses at 2:21 PM on January 16, 2017 [12 favorites]


Please tell me this doesn't mean we are going to have to have a MeFi NippleIn.

Or would that be a NippleUp?
Nippleodeon, surely?
posted by Pinback at 2:28 PM on January 16, 2017 [10 favorites]


Desexualizing nipples is taking away all the fun, though. I prefer to keep mine sexualized, thank you very much. You can do whatever you want with yours.
posted by MexicanYenta at 3:45 PM on January 16, 2017 [11 favorites]


Are all these people shaving their (m/b)oobs? I'm feeling remarkably hirsute.

The submission instructions ask people to shave before taking a pic, to make it harder to distinguish between male and female nipples.
posted by bunderful at 4:01 PM on January 16, 2017 [2 favorites]


NIPPLES!

/chris griffin
posted by jonmc at 4:28 PM on January 16, 2017 [1 favorite]


Do you have any rubber walrus covers?



Call the poliiiice
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 5:09 PM on January 16, 2017 [8 favorites]


Next: Nipple or Gas Giant Storm Vortex?
posted by michaelhoney at 5:20 PM on January 16, 2017 [5 favorites]


They could just do closeups of cat and dog bellies to quickly increase the genderless nipple count....
posted by GenjiandProust


A few years ago, I was considering a weekend away with my husband's-and-my two dogs and a girlfriend and her two dogs. This would leave my husband at home, bachelor-style, for a few days. When I told him about our tentative plans, he immediately said,

"Well, there'd be sixteen... no, eighteen fewer nipples in the house. But there's always the Internet."

Reader, this is why I love the man.
posted by workerant at 5:51 PM on January 16, 2017 [18 favorites]


It makes me so happy to see so many different nipples. I want something similar for every body part but not so many white people, please, says this white lady.
posted by Bella Donna at 6:51 PM on January 16, 2017 [1 favorite]


Pinback: "
Please tell me this doesn't mean we are going to have to have a MeFi NippleIn.

Or would that be a NippleUp?
Nippleodeon, surely?
"

No, no.

Just no. Now I have a wicked version of the damn jingle in my head.

And, trust you me, it never stops just there.

Hope you are happy now.
posted by Samizdata at 7:02 PM on January 16, 2017 [1 favorite]


Remember when "nipplegate" was an actual thing in the news?
posted by bonobothegreat at 7:11 PM on January 16, 2017


I love a little Brustwarzen on rye with spicy brown mustard. But I'm not gonna eat that at my desk.
posted by condour75 at 7:17 PM on January 16, 2017 [4 favorites]


Samizdata: "Just no. Now I have a wicked version of the damn jingle in my head."

Which jingle? 'Cos what was running through my head was
Put another nipple in,
In the nippleodeon,
All I want is loving you and
Boobies, boobies, boobies
and I want to make sure we're on the same page ;)
posted by Pinback at 7:19 PM on January 16, 2017 [7 favorites]


"Well, there'd be sixteen... no, eighteen fewer nipples in the house. But there's always the Internet."

The child finds this amusing, and resolves to repeat it his next opportunity.

The adult also finds it amusing, and likewise wishes to repeat it. However, unlike the child, the adult pauses to consider that he has no dogs in his home, and so bachelor-style living for a few days would require that his wife take their two daughters on a trip. The adult further reflects that making a "six fewer nipples" joke when two thirds of the nipples belong to his daughters would be awkward and uncomfortable, at best, for all concerned.

Following these reflections, the adult accepts that this joke is not his joke, and moves on.

And thus we see that while the child is unconstrained by concerns of propriety in the pursuit of yuks, the adult may take consolation in talking about himself in the third person on the internet.
posted by nickmark at 7:55 PM on January 16, 2017 [13 favorites]


To make things worse, if you shorten "nipples" to "nips", you enter the realm of WWII-era racism, unless you're referring to cheese crackers made by Nabisco.

Or whatever on god's earth this cosmetic brand is meant to invoke. I'm accosted by it every time I walk into Shoppers, and feel embarrassed on its behalf.
posted by bethnull at 7:56 PM on January 16, 2017 [1 favorite]


The main thrust of this - for me and some of my friends - is that we refuse to see pictures of us breastfeeding our children as somehow sex-related. We want to be able to post them on facebook the same way bottlefeeding moms post pics of their cute eating babies. Sure, maybe a small concern for feminism as a whole, but it matters to us. Because it's one particularly infuriating instance of sexualizing womens' bodies at all costs. (As for breastfeeding in public, there are usually laws in place that allow for uncovered nipples; this does not extend to FB rules, however.)
posted by The Toad at 8:10 PM on January 16, 2017 [8 favorites]


Pinback: "Samizdata: "Just no. Now I have a wicked version of the damn jingle in my head."

Which jingle? 'Cos what was running through my head was
Put another nipple in,
In the nippleodeon,
All I want is loving you and
Boobies, boobies, boobies
and I want to make sure we're on the same page ;)
"

The kids cable channel? With the cartoons? And the slime?
posted by Samizdata at 8:39 PM on January 16, 2017


And THAT is why I said it never stops just there.

And sounded so bitter.
posted by Samizdata at 8:41 PM on January 16, 2017


It's nipples all the way down.
posted by spilon at 8:54 PM on January 16, 2017


"It's nipples all the way down."

Better than nipples all the way up. Trust me.
posted by komara at 9:36 PM on January 16, 2017


And now I'll have those lyrics to the nippleodeon song in my head for the rest of my life. Thanks, Pinback. ;-P
posted by kayray at 10:44 PM on January 16, 2017


Or whatever on god's earth this cosmetic brand is meant to invoke.

"Yes, I accept that you were curious and didn't believe my claims. No, I don't know why my nipples are like that either. Now will you please stop laughing, and just pick up that screwdriver and reattach my left pectorial muscle?"
posted by sebastienbailard at 11:38 PM on January 16, 2017


A friend at work was watching a documentary on SRS which had some viewer-discretion-advised scenes of surgeries. At one point the show in question picked some spot in the middle of a procedure and flipped on the nipple-blur.

Talk about arbitrary.
posted by mrgoat at 4:37 AM on January 17, 2017 [8 favorites]


This is one of those things that's completely arbitrary and prone to breaking when you acknowledge trans people's existence. So a a trans woman, was my boobless flat chest obscene or no? When I'd grown boobs but still had paperwork that said I was legally a man, were my boobs obscene or no? (Because legally, the answer has to be no, right? I mean, I had the paperwork that said that my boobs were a completely fine-for-public make chest!) Did that change when I was issued new identity papers? When I grew breasts? When I came out?

The above are all trick questions. The actual answer is that no, a trans body is not socially acceptable at any time.
posted by Dysk at 6:03 AM on January 17, 2017 [20 favorites]


Signs For The Million Nipple March (You Know It's Coming)
=============================================

Stand up for your nipples, and your nipples will stand up for you!

When it comes to showing your nipples, you have a divine right. And the left's not bad either.

Nip out!

They may be hairy, they may be smooth
They may be bouncy, they may not move
They may be pink, they may be brown
But your nipples are fit to be shown
posted by Devonian at 8:25 AM on January 17, 2017 [1 favorite]


Shouldn't it be the Two Million Nipple March?
posted by ejs at 8:37 AM on January 17, 2017 [3 favorites]


I'm all for showing nipples if you wanna show nipples - nipples are great! We all have them! Some of us have more than 2! (Google "milk lines" and "supernumerary nipple" and then reconsider those "moles" or "freckles" you always thought you had... you likely have an extra nip or two!)

I wonder if Instagrammed 3rd nipples would be banned as well?

Personally, as much as I think nipples are great and should be shared if you wanna share, I wear an undershirt so that I'm not inadvertently exposing anyone to unwanted nipples, because some dress shirts are a bit see-through (depending on color and cloth thickness).

(My son's favorite stuffed animal is an Ikea kitty with little pink nipples. I think it is maybe supposed to be a girl kitty but it's always been a boy kitty to us, because hey boy kitties have nipples too.)
posted by caution live frogs at 11:00 AM on January 17, 2017


I hope some recipients of post-mastectomy tattoos send in photos of their ink nipples!
posted by nicebookrack at 2:53 PM on January 17, 2017


men's chests are not nonsexual(ized) body parts in the eyes of anyone but straight men with absolutely no empathy or imagination, which thank goodness is not all of them

Kids in the Hall: "I have nipples, you know."
posted by AndrewInDC at 5:52 PM on January 17, 2017


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