Annihilated

February 1, 2018 10:23 AM

The Problem With Annihilation’s Messy Release - why the latest film from Ex Machina's Alex Garland will not be getting an international release. (previously) (full trailer)
posted by Artw (75 comments total)

From teh previous Netflix discussion:

Annihilation May Not Be For Everyone, But Director Alex Garland Hopes the Battle Is Worth It

'Annihilation': Behind-the-Scenes of a Producer Clash and That Netflix Deal (Exclusive)

The primary dude ganking it appears to be the guy behind fucking Geostorm.
posted by Artw at 10:26 AM on February 1, 2018 [5 favorites]

And Terminator: Genisys! Seems like he's really got the midas touch.

By which I mean he turns everything into gold and then people are like, wow, gold, that very impressive, but it's not as nice as that plate of grapes I was just about to eat, also please don't touch my food
posted by The River Ivel at 10:33 AM on February 1, 2018 [9 favorites]

I dunno. I think the broader question of auteurs vs. executives is interesting, but it's not clear we can really say what's going on here till the movie actually gets released. Maybe it's indicative of a broader industry trend towards safe movie making, or maybe it isn't a particularly good movie and the industry has found a new way to better monetize projects that don't come out the way they wanted.

(I've seen the trailer in front of some movies in the theater, and despite it being something that should be totally in my wheelhouse I was left pretty meh at the proposition)
posted by tocts at 10:34 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]

The book is a favorite of mine, but I'd been nervous about the movie because the trailer made it look like it overfocused on the relationship between the main character and her husband compared to the book, which I didn't think would be a good choice.

Now I will probably watch it anyway out of sheer spite, though, because seriously, fuck Geostorm guy.
posted by kyrademon at 10:36 AM on February 1, 2018 [17 favorites]

I sort of liked Annihilation (enough to start the second book, anyway, which was just terrible and killed off my interest in the trilogy), but at no point did I think it seemed like a story that would translate well to the screen. If this is all going pear-shaped it's a shame, because I really enjoyed Ex Machina (until the end, which partially undid a lot of the implicit criticism of the male gaze).
posted by The Card Cheat at 10:40 AM on February 1, 2018 [7 favorites]

I'll probably see it unless it reviews really really really badly. My vision of it was more along the lines of the Tarkovsky Solaris but with weird animals instead of a weird dead wife. Giving the Husband and a Beast so many beats of the trailer isn't promising to me.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 10:46 AM on February 1, 2018 [7 favorites]

As an aside it seems like it was a poor year at Sundance this year (after we've had Fruitvale Station, Boyhood, Whiplash, Manchester by the Sea, Get Out and Call Me By Your Name in the few years previous). However the biggest deal was via HBO so may be the trend is for intelligent films to go streaming only and the cinema be left to the big dumb spectacle (in the po mo sense)
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 10:52 AM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]

Is the movie intended to be a stand-alone interpretation of the material in the entire trilogy or an interpretation of the first book only? The trailer makes it kind of look like the former, but it's hard to tell. If the latter, and it's good, I'd kind of prefer having it go to Netflix so there's a chance they continue it.
posted by lagomorphius at 10:53 AM on February 1, 2018

I saw the trailer a few weeks ago without knowing anything else about the movie or even that it was a book, got SUPER jazzed because it seemed like something I'd really like, googled briefly, discovered it was a book, read the book, disliked the book immediately and throughout, and now am really kind of meh on seeing the movie.

That really doesn't have anything to do with the screwy release plan this thing is getting, it's just on my mind since I finished the book last week.
posted by phunniemee at 10:54 AM on February 1, 2018

I know nothing about the books at all, but the trailer didn't strike me as putting the husband in a major role other than as motivating the actions of Portman's character and potentially setting a opposition between the male in "the Shimmer" and female reaction to it/involvement with it. The trailer actually interested me in the movie even though I know nothing else about the story, which is fairly rare.
posted by gusottertrout at 10:55 AM on February 1, 2018

There is no chance Paramound will continue a project they’ve marked for death. Good numbers would maybe change that but it’s not going to get distribution where it could achieve those. On the plus side it sounds like it is structured to work as a standalone work.
posted by Artw at 10:57 AM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]

> enough to start the second book, anyway, which was just terrible and killed off my interest in the trilogy

For real. I liked the first book and finished the second, but haven't been able to summon up the will to start the third. Annihilation was atmospheric, poetic, and concise; Authority was rambling, unmotivated, and dull.
posted by a mirror and an encyclopedia at 10:59 AM on February 1, 2018 [5 favorites]

Ironically, the same kind of Netflix deal is reportedly being mulled for another Paramount movie, God Particle, part of the loosely connected Cloverfield franchise. The other two Cloverfield films were hits for Paramount, but according to The Hollywood Reporter, the studio’s new CEO Jim Gianopulos has identified the $40 million–budgeted space thriller as a risk. “He sat down and looked at what is theatrical, what is not in this day and age,” a source told the Reporter. Paramount films like the upcoming Transformers spinoff Bumblebee fit the bill; God Particle and Annihilation, it seems, may not.

Am I crazy, or is a $40 million budget pretty much chump change for a modern major studio sci-fi feature? Or have there been recent budget scale-backs in Hollywood movies that I'm not aware of?
posted by Atom Eyes at 11:06 AM on February 1, 2018 [4 favorites]

Now that I'm thinking about it, the first two books share some similarities with The Man in the High Castle, with characters primarily haunted by the growing realization that their subjective reality has been manipulated to hide a horrifying truth. Authority I think suffers because it just takes so long for Control to even start to catch on.

In the novels, spoiler.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 11:09 AM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]

I'm not a big sci-fi fan but I loved this triolgy. The second book is very Kafkaesque and is probably my favourite of the three. Since reading, I get the shivers every time I see a lighthouse. The trailer does not inspire me with confidence.
posted by night_train at 11:19 AM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]

it seems like it was a poor year at Sundance this year (after we've had Fruitvale Station, Boyhood, Whiplash, Manchester by the Sea, Get Out and Call Me By Your Name in the few years previous)

I've heard good things about Hereditary, The Tale, Sorry to Bother You, Leave No Trace, and Mandy. Maybe none will prove to be instant and eternal classics, but I'm looking forward to seeing them.
posted by Iridic at 11:22 AM on February 1, 2018

I like the second trailer less than the first, it;s more "actiony" and I suspect it was constructed with an eye towards placating Geostrom guy.
posted by Artw at 11:24 AM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]

Ex Machina is one of the smartest sci-fi films I've seen this decade. I hope this new movie works out. But perhaps smart sci-fi films are not enormous blockbusters. Arrival aside.

Speaking of smart sci-fi I'd love to see Shane Carruth (Primer, Upstream Color) get a swing at a big budget movie. Wikipedia says he's working on a new movie "The Modern Ocean" with a star-power ensemble cast, so that's encouraging.
posted by Nelson at 11:30 AM on February 1, 2018 [9 favorites]

This sucks balls, but I would rather watch Garland's version on Netflix than a dumbed-down version in cinemas.
posted by New England Cultist at 11:43 AM on February 1, 2018 [4 favorites]

Garland also wrote "28 Days Later", "Sunshine", "Never Let Me Go" and "Dredd" so I mostly trust him on this.
posted by octothorpe at 11:49 AM on February 1, 2018 [12 favorites]

I'll be honest, when I first looked at that Hollywood Reporter link and saw the two faces at the top, my mind made a series of immediate conclusions about the two men involved in this film's distribution. I identified that as an unfair snap judgement, so I decided to look into the background of each man.

David Ellison is the son of a billionaire who seems to have spent his youth flying airplanes for fun and now has failed up to be the CEO of his own studio.

Scott Rudin is an experienced producer who worked his way up from being an assistant to a theater producer and is one of a short list of people who has won an Emmy, Tony, Grammy, and Oscar.

In conclusion I am forced to admit that my initial impression may actually be correct and my overwhelming desire to punch David Ellison in the face may be more justified than I initially thought.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 11:59 AM on February 1, 2018 [12 favorites]

But perhaps smart sci-fi films are not enormous blockbusters. Arrival aside.

I think a case can be made for putting Gravity and The Martian in the "smart sci-fi" bucket, and both of them did quite well at the box office.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 12:05 PM on February 1, 2018 [7 favorites]

Speaking of smart sci-fi I'd love to see Shane Carruth (Primer, Upstream Color) get a swing at a big budget movie. Wikipedia says he's working on a new movie "The Modern Ocean" with a star-power ensemble cast, so that's encouraging.

Modern Ocean seems to have disappeared into development hell. There was a big announcement a few years ago and then nothing since. Carruth has been busy scoring and acting in The Girlfriend Experience and editing A Ghost Story but no sign of him working on his next film.
posted by octothorpe at 12:13 PM on February 1, 2018

The execution may be flawed, but at least this is not part of some existing franchise or a remake of a movie that's barely 20 years old. Ugh. The film industry is becoming so dull.

I for one am interested, as a fan of the books, to see what translates to the screen. The fact that a story like this about a fairly unlikable female protagonist was made into a movie (even though it looks like they're trying to make her character more sympathetic by giving her emotional reactions she really doesn't have in the book) was encouraging. It's an all-female group of scientists having a paranormal/sci-fi experience, and none of that seems to be played as weird, funny, or remarkable in the trailers I've seen. That by itself is awesome, even if the movie dumbs itself down.
posted by Kitty Stardust at 12:23 PM on February 1, 2018 [7 favorites]

Garland also wrote "28 Days Later", "Sunshine", "Never Let Me Go" and "Dredd"

Whenever I hear about Garland I think of plucking The Beach off the bookstore shelf and taking it home and reading it and thinking "Eh, that was fun. Not great, but fun. Wonder if this guy'll ever do anything else?" OTOH, I still have an American first of The Beach so I've got that going for me.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:24 PM on February 1, 2018 [3 favorites]

I'll probably see it unless it reviews really really really badly. My vision of it was more along the lines of the Tarkovsky Solaris but with weird animals instead of a weird dead wife.

The more apt Tarkovsky comparison might be Stalker, since the Southern Reach triology was pretty much entirely an american re-imagining of Roadside Picnic anyway.
posted by Itaxpica at 12:29 PM on February 1, 2018 [11 favorites]

is a $40 million budget pretty much chump change for a modern major studio sci-fi feature?

Well, when you look at it that way, yeah, but it's $40M that could've been added to Monster Trucks' budget. It probably would have performed much better with $165 000 000 behind it rather than a paltry $125M.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 1:13 PM on February 1, 2018 [3 favorites]

Metafilter: my overwhelming desire to punch him in the face may be more justified than I initially thought.
posted by el io at 1:27 PM on February 1, 2018 [4 favorites]

The flip side of this is that if the movie does well on Netflix (independent of how it does from Paramount) and the contractual agreement the filmmakers have with Paramount allows it, Netflix could take on the sequel itself. It certainly has the cash for it, and its success metrics are different enough from "box office" that what might be seen as a risk for a studio that deals with theatrical releases would be a slam dunk for Netflix. We already know what's successful at home is not necessarily what's successful in theaters -- from It's a Wonderful Life to The Shawshank Redemption, there have been examples of films that only became classics when they moved to the small screen.

From a business point of view I don't find the Netflix deal particularly objectionable. Producers and studios will often sell foreign rights to local exhibitors and studios for upfront cash, agreed-upon amounts of promotional support and then backend (if any) -- selling rights has always been a hedge. Likewise the arrow often points the other way: There are films that are shown theatrically in the rest of the world (and do reasonably well) that will VOD/home video here, possibly with cursory single-screen release in NY/LA for Academy consideration. The thing here is not upfront sales and/or home release to mitigate risk -- it's that it's to Netflix.

Disclosures: I know Jeff VanderMeer, author of the book from which the film is derived, and I currently have a film deal with Netflix, so take my commentary through those filters.
posted by jscalzi at 1:37 PM on February 1, 2018 [21 favorites]

Yeah, it seems like there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of the book on the part of Paramount and Ellison. The more I learn about the way Hollywood operates, the less I'm surprised by this.

Apparently, when Taika Waititi was pitching his vision for Thor: Ragnarok, he discovered that the executives he was pitching to had never heard "Immigrant Song."
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:40 PM on February 1, 2018 [8 favorites]

The more apt Tarkovsky comparison might be Stalker, since the Southern Reach triology was pretty much entirely an american re-imagining of Roadside Picnic anyway.

I've seen both and I'm much more inclined to go Solaris than Stalker. The zone in Stalker is at least partially comprehensible to those willing to risk navigating it, and the maguffin of Stalker is a wonderfully developed Monkey's Paw that likely understands human desire to some degree, although the characters debate that at length.

Which is why I'm back to Solaris where the entity defies all attempts at communication or comprehension. Scientists have been camped outside of a complex phenomenon for decades. It may or may not be alive. It may or may not be intelligent. It's known only through elaborate mimicry that's almost, but not quite convincing. The human doppelgangers seem to lack a full sense of self or internal life. What hope do you have of communicating with something that returns only mirrors and copies? Can you even trust the researchers at this point?
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 1:52 PM on February 1, 2018 [9 favorites]

jscalzi: "I currently have a film deal with Netflix"

...having read some of your stuff, I can say quite honestly that I'm looking forward to seeing what Netflix does with it. Any chance you will let the Metafilter community know what/when/if it's already available to view? Provided you're allowed to do so, of course!
posted by caution live frogs at 2:09 PM on February 1, 2018 [3 favorites]

It probably would have performed much better with $165 000 000 behind it rather than a paltry $125M.

I mean, think of the marketing tie-ins that $40M could have bought!

Apparently, when Taika Waititi was pitching his vision for Thor: Ragnarok, he discovered that the executives he was pitching to had never heard "Immigrant Song."

More proof, as if we needed any, that movie executives are automatons programmed to badly approximate human sentience.
posted by tobascodagama at 2:17 PM on February 1, 2018 [2 favorites]

It might be fun to kick David Ellison around, but I have to wonder if the real problem isn't with Paramount. They lost money on Star Trek Beyond, easily the best of the AOS/"JJTrek" movies, by dumping it squarely in the middle of a crowded summer season rather than waiting a couple of months to Trek's 50th anniversary, when it basically would have had theaters to itself.

Also, WRT movie executives being clueless, my favorite example is the story that Brian Michael Bendis tells about pitching his graphic novel Torso (about the Cleveland Torso Murderer) to movie producers, and one exec's insistence that they couldn't do the movie because Paramount held the rights to Eliot Ness (a figure in the investigation), despite Ness being a historical figure.
posted by Halloween Jack at 2:57 PM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]

Why Is This Women-Led Sci-Fi Movie Being Pushed Aside?
posted by Artw at 4:15 PM on February 1, 2018 [3 favorites]

I'm really weirded out that they made this into a movie in the first place. I read the whole trilogy, and while I liked it, it was very abstract.

I don't think I really got my head around it until I listened to this quick interview on On The Media.
posted by lumpenprole at 4:47 PM on February 1, 2018 [1 favorite]

David Ellison's sister Megan is the head of Annapurna pictures, so on the one side you have Geostorm on the other you have Phantom Thread.
posted by SageLeVoid at 4:13 AM on February 2, 2018

And on the third side, What Remains of Edith Finch.
posted by entity447b at 5:04 AM on February 2, 2018

caution live frogs:

"Any chance you will let the Metafilter community know what/when/if it's already available to view?"

Trust me, if it gets through production and makes it onto the service, you'll know.
posted by jscalzi at 5:56 AM on February 2, 2018 [2 favorites]

I wasn't nuts about Ex Machina, but I am interested in this film, because Garland says he wanted this film to be the opposite. He has specifically stated that the trailers are misleading regarding the relationship; here's a good little article at Indiewire where he talks about that and a few other things. I like this quote very much, but good luck with that, Alex:
“The way I approach these things is with transparency. I never bullshit fucking anybody about what my intention is. I say, ‘Here is the script, the script is not a pretend script, it’s the actual script. Here are some visuals, too.’ The way I see it from that point is that if they agree to make the film, then it becomes like a contract. Importantly, that contract is not open to being broken later. There’s a creative agreement. If people do have a problem, and that’s fine if they do, but the time to express that is early, not late.”

The FPP article says this:
But it’s rare for an upcoming film to lose theatrical distribution because of the failure of unrelated past projects; Annihilation, after all, had very little to do with Baywatch not connecting with audiences.

For a film that's in the can, yeah, that's rare. But I feel like I read about profits for one film affecting other, unrelated films all the time. And it's happening more and more in recent years since we have less studios, and they're increasingly focusing on high-budget films. Just this week, there was this story hinting that Tron 3 went back into development hell after being greenlit because of Tomorrowland's failure. I think tobascodagama has it right; I have long had the sense that film executives make decisions as if they're easily-frightened augurs in some remote cave.
posted by heatvision at 7:55 AM on February 2, 2018 [3 favorites]

From what I understand, the movie Annihilation is based on the first book of the trilogy and is meant to work as a stand-alone movie, whether or not there are any sequels.

Garland made some alterations: He kept most of the characters alive longer so they can talk to each other about what they've found on their expedition. He's got debriefings of the main character, which don't happen until book two. The movie has stuff about her relationship with her husband, presumably mostly through flashbacks.

These alterations make sense. The first novel of the trilogy is entirely a first-person narration by the biologist of the expedition which she started writing after everyone else was gone. Her husband ends up being a fairly important "character" in a way, even though he's not present, because she finds a diary he'd kept on his expedition and, after having read it, excerpts parts of it and comments on it.

This won't work in a movie, so keeping people around longer to talk about stuff makes sense. I'm not so sure about the bit about her and husband. It may or not work. We'll see.

I liked the novels, and I'll go this when it comes out. I'm not going to judge Paramount's decision till I've seen it, and probably not till I've seen what ticket sales look like
posted by nangar at 10:07 AM on February 2, 2018 [1 favorite]

Very much doubt the scale of the release will be anything that would allow ticket sales to be anything other than garbage.
posted by Artw at 10:34 AM on February 2, 2018 [1 favorite]

Exactly. Ticket sales have way more to do with distribution deals than with any particular quality of the movie itself. Or even the marketing, probably.
posted by tobascodagama at 10:41 AM on February 2, 2018

I saw the trailer a few weeks ago without knowing anything else about the movie or even that it was a book, got SUPER jazzed because it seemed like something I'd really like, googled briefly, discovered it was a book, read the book, disliked the book immediately and throughout, and now am really kind of meh on seeing the movie.

This is me, I'm way past "meh" on the film. I've got no interest in it at all, because the book left me with the distinct impression that there would be no narrative payoff at all. It's the same feeling I got after watching the first couple episodes of "Lost".
posted by uberchet at 1:00 PM on February 2, 2018

Yeah, well, I also think that thing you like is dumb.
posted by tobascodagama at 1:30 PM on February 2, 2018 [6 favorites]

Hello, film with 5 leads who are awesome women! That might be "too intellectual"! I want to see you now!
posted by allthinky at 6:43 PM on February 2, 2018 [6 favorites]

This is disappointing; only a few days ago they were showing trailers for this in New Zealand cinema, now we won't be seeing it at all.

I'm not sure if the film could have done justice to the book, but I was intrigued to see it try.
posted by Pink Frost at 7:41 PM on February 2, 2018

The God Particle hitting Netflix tonight.
posted by Artw at 4:43 PM on February 4, 2018 [1 favorite]

Annnnd maybe that one wasn't so great.

(Being retrofitted as a Cloverfeild film does not seem to have done it any favours)
posted by Artw at 2:25 PM on February 5, 2018

Annihilation Round-Up: Two Teasers, a Feaurette, and a Viral Site
posted by Artw at 5:13 PM on February 5, 2018

Netflix buys Extinction, another sci-fi thriller the original studio didn’t want
posted by Artw at 12:33 PM on February 8, 2018 [1 favorite]

Seems like the strategy is to replace direct-to-video with direct-to-Netflix. Which actually kind of is the case already, if the "related titles" that come up on most of my searches are any indication.
posted by tobascodagama at 1:12 PM on February 8, 2018

So instead of burning bad movies off in January, studios will just sell them to Netflix?
posted by octothorpe at 1:20 PM on February 8, 2018 [1 favorite]

Is the Annihilation booweee going to take over for the ubiquitous trailer boooj?
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 5:02 PM on February 8, 2018

How Netflix is Changing Science Fiction (Beyond Big Marketing Gimmicks)
posted by Artw at 8:24 AM on February 11, 2018

I think this is the first time I've seen anybody outside of one of our MF comment threads acknowledge the whitewashing issue with this movie: Natalie Portman, Alex Garland address accusations of whitewashing in Annihilation
posted by tobascodagama at 1:00 PM on February 15, 2018

Seems like the strategy is to replace direct-to-video with direct-to-Netflix.

Except "direct to video" was usually a synonym for "shitty." NetFlix is making quality stuff now.
posted by uberchet at 9:24 AM on February 16, 2018

Reviews are in.
posted by Artw at 11:12 AM on February 21, 2018 [1 favorite]

Looking good so far, too. I guess I'll have to carve out some time to see it this weekend while I wait for the Black Panther crowds to die down.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:08 PM on February 21, 2018

Is that this weekend? I was thinking about wanting to see Black Panther again but I do need to see Annihilation in the theater.
posted by octothorpe at 12:14 PM on February 21, 2018

Yeah, opens Friday.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:39 PM on February 21, 2018

Could someone give me a violence preview? What level of gore/pain/unpleasantness are we talking about?
posted by Think_Long at 12:53 PM on February 21, 2018

I don't think that anyone here has seen it yet T_L but IMDB shows that it's "Rated R for violence, bloody images, language and some sexuality"
posted by octothorpe at 2:24 PM on February 21, 2018 [1 favorite]

Could someone give me a violence preview? What level of gore/pain/unpleasantness are we talking about?

Vague book spoilers.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 3:16 PM on February 21, 2018

‘ANNIHILATION’ REVIEW: ALEX GARLAND JUST MADE ONE OF THE BEST SCI-FI MOVIES IN YEARS
Sometimes we call blockbusters “popcorn movies.” Annihilation suggests the need for a term to describe the opposite sort of film. It demands absolute attention even as it dares you to look away from some of the most nightmarish images to appear on movie screens in years. It is beautiful at times, provocative at others, and downright nauseating in between. When people say a horror movie “made their skin crawl,” they don’t usually mean it literally. In this case, I do: This movie made me physically uncomfortable in my own skin. It’s one hell of a don’t-get-popcorn movie.
posted by Artw at 5:55 PM on February 21, 2018 [1 favorite]

The io9 History of Annihilation, From Book to Film to Controversy
posted by Artw at 3:44 PM on February 22, 2018

Think_Long: "Could someone give me a violence preview? What level of gore/pain/unpleasantness are we talking about?"

So just came back and can say pretty emphatically that the gore/pain/unpleasantness is turned up to 11 so if that bothers you, I'd give it hard pass.
posted by octothorpe at 4:36 PM on February 25, 2018 [2 favorites]

Good to know, thanks octothorpe.
posted by Think_Long at 5:42 AM on February 26, 2018

It's a brilliant film and I loved it but it's definitely one of those that you don't want to recommend randomly since it's so disturbing.
posted by octothorpe at 6:08 AM on February 26, 2018

And now for the post-mortems!
posted by tobascodagama at 9:46 AM on February 26, 2018 [1 favorite]

Ouch.

Of course Black Panther is basically the only game in town right now, so other films that studios actually support are similarly getting crushed.
posted by Artw at 9:58 AM on February 26, 2018 [1 favorite]

Annihilation was always going to be somewhat of a niche film and the fact that the studio barely promoted it, didn't preview it until the last minute and released against the second week of Black Panther pretty much doomed it from the start.
posted by octothorpe at 10:19 AM on February 26, 2018 [1 favorite]

Interesting that the analysis is so down on Arrival, people seemed pretty happy with it's numbers at the time. I have no doubt they could have equaled that if they had wanted to.
posted by Artw at 10:43 AM on February 26, 2018 [1 favorite]

Props to that Forbes article for including Benedict Wong in their list of heavy-hitters in the cast. He's been great since at least as far back as 15 Storeys High and is only just barely starting to get the notice he deserves.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 10:50 AM on February 26, 2018 [1 favorite]

Of course Black Panther is basically the only game in town right now, so other films that studios actually support are similarly getting crushed.

This movie was obviously never going to be a smash hit, but I do wonder how much better it would have done if its theatrical release were pushed back to March 12 like the Netflix release.
posted by tobascodagama at 1:17 PM on February 26, 2018