It's still tough to come out in 2018
March 26, 2018 9:02 AM Subscribe
Love, Simon has been getting a lot of attention for being the first wide release queer romcom aimed at a teen audience.
Love, Simon is a groundbreaking gay movie. But do today's teens actually need it?
Gay writer Glen Weldon's review
10 teenagers on Love, Simon and what it's actually like to come out in 2018:
Luke, 16, Charlottesville, gay:
I came out to a friend back in 2014 and then to one of my really close teachers who I literally consider my second mom, I came out to just this morning. As for family … eek. Both of my parents voted for Donald Trump, they’re both NRA members, anti-choice, don’t believe in marriage equality, blah blah blah. I don’t really open myself to them or get deep with them. Like with my parents, I’ll be in the car and my brother will go on a rant about how all gay people are pedophiles, and I’m like … Thanks for talking about me, I guess.
Two gay men discuss their feelings about Love, Simon
Celebrities buying out showings of Love, Simon in their hometowns
Bonus reading: how straight critics still discount queerness, exemplified by the lukewarm reaction to season 2 of American Crime Story
Gay writer Glen Weldon's review
10 teenagers on Love, Simon and what it's actually like to come out in 2018:
Luke, 16, Charlottesville, gay:
I came out to a friend back in 2014 and then to one of my really close teachers who I literally consider my second mom, I came out to just this morning. As for family … eek. Both of my parents voted for Donald Trump, they’re both NRA members, anti-choice, don’t believe in marriage equality, blah blah blah. I don’t really open myself to them or get deep with them. Like with my parents, I’ll be in the car and my brother will go on a rant about how all gay people are pedophiles, and I’m like … Thanks for talking about me, I guess.
Two gay men discuss their feelings about Love, Simon
Celebrities buying out showings of Love, Simon in their hometowns
Bonus reading: how straight critics still discount queerness, exemplified by the lukewarm reaction to season 2 of American Crime Story
Kids like Simon, in 2018, already have a good shot of fitting in. They don’t need this movie. Will they look up from Netflix to notice that it has premiered? Love, Simon feels like a film responding to an entirely different culture, like one in which gay marriage was never legalized. That decision both acknowledged that equality for gays had won the day and opened the door for far more interesting and challenging fights, ones the next generation will lead. Movies that integrate those stories are ones worth anticipating with relish. Love, Simon, by contrast, simply feels like looking back in time.
Instead of sketchy gatekeeping, how about we just say that I'm glad this film exists, and I'm looking forward to more "big" films that explore different facets of LGBT lives.
posted by Query at 9:27 AM on March 26, 2018 [19 favorites]
Instead of sketchy gatekeeping, how about we just say that I'm glad this film exists, and I'm looking forward to more "big" films that explore different facets of LGBT lives.
posted by Query at 9:27 AM on March 26, 2018 [19 favorites]
I read the linked review as saying 'is a sitcom that focuses on a cis, gay, sometimes straight-presenting white male really a necessary show when there are so many better and more conversations and popular humanizations that are needed', not 'we don't need anymore gays, we got so many gays, sheesh'
Young queer people in bad situations, for whom it could represent a meaningful piece of affirmation, might well find its stabs at relatability fairly ludicrous. As we watch Simon’s nurturing parents giving him a new car, parked outside their picturesque suburban home, he intones in voice-over narration, “I’m just like you.” Sure thing, Simon! But those kids who were met with support when they came out are probably too sophisticated for Love, Simon–so much so that its vision of how good it feels for a masculine, traditionally attractive bro to receive encouragement might not resonate at all.[...] [Marriage equality] opened the door for far more interesting and challenging fights, ones the next generation will lead. Movies that integrate those stories are ones worth anticipating with relish. Love, Simon, by contrast, simply feels like looking back in time.posted by runt at 9:33 AM on March 26, 2018 [1 favorite]
At least the buzz I'm seeing from LGBTQ youth is that they love Love, Simon.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 9:33 AM on March 26, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 9:33 AM on March 26, 2018 [4 favorites]
I’m 37 years old and I’ve seen Love, Simon twice, the second time with my mother, and we talked about my own coming out 20 years ago, mostly for the first time.
That’s the power of mainstream culture.
As adults, we obsess so much over representation and privilege that we forget that it’s still really fucking hard to tell the world you’re queer.
posted by Automocar at 9:40 AM on March 26, 2018 [23 favorites]
That’s the power of mainstream culture.
As adults, we obsess so much over representation and privilege that we forget that it’s still really fucking hard to tell the world you’re queer.
posted by Automocar at 9:40 AM on March 26, 2018 [23 favorites]
At least the buzz I'm seeing from LGBTQ youth is that they love Love, Simon.
Why would we like, listen to LGBT teens about a film written for them, when we have a hot take from Time Magazine?
posted by happyroach at 9:45 AM on March 26, 2018 [31 favorites]
Why would we like, listen to LGBT teens about a film written for them, when we have a hot take from Time Magazine?
posted by happyroach at 9:45 AM on March 26, 2018 [31 favorites]
Instead of sketchy gatekeeping
it's not sketchy, the fact that cis white male experience is vastly over-represented in media and activism is a fairly longstanding criticism:
5 Most Disappointing Things We Learned About HRC's 'White Men's Club'
it's not sketchy, the fact that cis white male experience is vastly over-represented in media and activism is a fairly longstanding criticism:
5 Most Disappointing Things We Learned About HRC's 'White Men's Club'
The report revealed that the organizational structure of HRC perpetuates sexism, while leaders have failed to establish a “real push for diversity,” which has created a “homogenous” leadership culture that is “gay, white, male.”Most LGBT characters on US TV are white and male, study finds
On broadcast networks, 69% of gay characters are white, 19% are black, 7% are Latino and 6% Asian. On cable and streaming platforms respectively, 71% and 73% of gay characters are white.posted by runt at 9:45 AM on March 26, 2018 [5 favorites]
Kids like Simon, in 2018, already have a good shot of fitting in. They don’t need this movie. Will they look up from Netflix to notice that it has premiered? Love, Simon feels like a film responding to an entirely different culture, like one in which gay marriage was never legalized. That decision both acknowledged that equality for gays had won the day and opened the door for far more interesting and challenging fights, ones the next generation will lead. Movies that integrate those stories are ones worth anticipating with relish. Love, Simon, by contrast, simply feels like looking back in time.
Jesus. This is like arguing that when the Civil Rights Act passed, life became magically bias-free for people of color.
The real state of how much better things are now:
posted by mudpuppie at 9:53 AM on March 26, 2018 [33 favorites]
Jesus. This is like arguing that when the Civil Rights Act passed, life became magically bias-free for people of color.
The real state of how much better things are now:
In the most simplistic terms, LGBT teens need to see normalized representations of themselves in the media because it provides evidence that they're normal. It doesn't always feel that way on a day-to-day basis, no matter what a Supreme Court decision said a few years ago. Bigotry still abounds. Sweet movies that provide an antidote to that bigotry are not only culturally relevant, they're a necessity for the well-being of LGBT teens.
- LGB youth seriously contemplate suicide at almost three times the rate of heterosexual youth.
- LGB youth are almost five times as likely to have attempted suicide compared to heterosexual youth.
- Of all the suicide attempts made by youth, LGB youth suicide attempts were almost five times as likely to require medical treatment than those of heterosexual youth.
- Suicide attempts by LGB youth and questioning youth are 4 to 6 times more likely to result in injury, poisoning, or overdose that requires treatment from a doctor or nurse, compared to their straight peers.
- In a national study, 40% of transgender adults reported having made a suicide attempt. 92% of these individuals reported having attempted suicide before the age of 25.3
- LGB youth who come from highly rejecting families are 8.4 times as likely to have attempted suicide as LGB peers who reported no or low levels of family rejection.
- Each episode of LGBT victimization, such as physical or verbal harassment or abuse, increases the likelihood of self-harming behavior by 2.5 times on average.
posted by mudpuppie at 9:53 AM on March 26, 2018 [33 favorites]
The vibe I'm getting from my carefully-curated FB feed of 27 - 40 year old left-leaning friends is that they really love the movie and are glad it exists, for what that's worth.
I guess it's important to note as well that the movie and the novel it's based on (which was literally written by a white suburban mom named Becky, but what are you gonna do) is set in a lightly fictionalized version of Sandy Springs, GA, which most folks would call a northern suburb of Atlanta but is actually one of the cities which pioneered this whole boom of wealthy-majority-white-suburb-incorporates-then-privatizes-city-services that we're experiencing right now.
There's a lot to unpack about a story that comes from that sort of place, but I think that in much the same way that the conversation around YA and children's literature has lately been "children of color want to read about stuff other than slavery and Harriet Tubman," we also need stories about LGBTQ youth that feels like a normal rom-com and aren't devastating tragedies all the time. Hopefully the success of both this book and movie will lead to more diverse stories being told in the future.
posted by Maaik at 10:02 AM on March 26, 2018 [5 favorites]
I guess it's important to note as well that the movie and the novel it's based on (which was literally written by a white suburban mom named Becky, but what are you gonna do) is set in a lightly fictionalized version of Sandy Springs, GA, which most folks would call a northern suburb of Atlanta but is actually one of the cities which pioneered this whole boom of wealthy-majority-white-suburb-incorporates-then-privatizes-city-services that we're experiencing right now.
There's a lot to unpack about a story that comes from that sort of place, but I think that in much the same way that the conversation around YA and children's literature has lately been "children of color want to read about stuff other than slavery and Harriet Tubman," we also need stories about LGBTQ youth that feels like a normal rom-com and aren't devastating tragedies all the time. Hopefully the success of both this book and movie will lead to more diverse stories being told in the future.
posted by Maaik at 10:02 AM on March 26, 2018 [5 favorites]
runt: That needs to be balanced against the concluding paragraph: "But that’s precisely the problem. Kids like Simon, in 2018, already have a good shot of fitting in. They don’t need this movie."
Which again, contradicts all of the evidence regarding LGBTQ youth.
The article is a bunch of concern trolling over vague and contradictory goalposts to come to the conclusion that movies like Love, Simon are not needed because some gay teens apparently "ok." Which gay teens? The article goes out of its way to avoid discussing either race or gender identity/expression. Underlying the whole thing is an assumption that LGBTQ youth are too narrow-minded to connect with media outside of their own experience, leaving Simon both too optimistic and too conservative for its target audience. All of which echoes a conservative talking point that uses visibly queer youth and tumblr discussions to argue that anti-LGBTQ prejudice can't be that bad these days.
And it's really weird to use an article that doesn't discuss race or gender identity/expression at all as the starting point for discussing the overrepresentation of cis white men in LGBTQ media.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 10:02 AM on March 26, 2018 [14 favorites]
Which again, contradicts all of the evidence regarding LGBTQ youth.
The article is a bunch of concern trolling over vague and contradictory goalposts to come to the conclusion that movies like Love, Simon are not needed because some gay teens apparently "ok." Which gay teens? The article goes out of its way to avoid discussing either race or gender identity/expression. Underlying the whole thing is an assumption that LGBTQ youth are too narrow-minded to connect with media outside of their own experience, leaving Simon both too optimistic and too conservative for its target audience. All of which echoes a conservative talking point that uses visibly queer youth and tumblr discussions to argue that anti-LGBTQ prejudice can't be that bad these days.
And it's really weird to use an article that doesn't discuss race or gender identity/expression at all as the starting point for discussing the overrepresentation of cis white men in LGBTQ media.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 10:02 AM on March 26, 2018 [14 favorites]
GenderNullPointerException: I mean, I agree that that line is a really terrible conclusion but it seemed the gist pointed at a missing intersectionality which I assume is why the main poster framed the lead article with the subsequent articles discussing identities 'more complicated' than cis white male
the first paragraph of The Cut article included up top frames it this way almost verbatim:
posted by runt at 10:15 AM on March 26, 2018
the first paragraph of The Cut article included up top frames it this way almost verbatim:
While it has been widely hailed as groundbreaking, there has been dissent from a number of prominent critics, who have taken issue with Love Simon's generic storytelling and its emphasis on a white, privileged, conventionally masculine lead character. As Dan D’Addario asks in a piece for Time: “Can a love story centered around a gay teen who is very carefully built to seem as straight as possible appeal to a generation that’s boldly reinventing gender and sexuality on its own terms?” He concludes that “kids like Simon, in 2018, already have a good shot of fitting in. They don’t need this movie.”I didn't find it at all 'weird' to start talking about representation. I think it's only weird if all you're doing is reacting to the shitty clickbaitey title and ignoring the bulk of the linked articles in this post that present a more nuanced take on it
posted by runt at 10:15 AM on March 26, 2018
GenderNullPointerException, I will admit that there was a little bit of a desire on my part to see Metafilter dunk on this article, because it's just so bad. But I also think it raises key questions about the place of queer/LGBT youth in America in 2018.
Not to mention, if a gay dude can get it this wrong, what the hell can we expect from the straights?
I'm still flabbergasted that a wide release teen romcom told from a queer perspective is out in the world. There's a scene in the movie, narrated by Simon and his penpal crush, Blue, which flashes back to Simon's dreams about Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter and Blue's attraction to Jon Snow, as their queer awakening/realization, which feels like nothing else I've seen, even in all the tiny little queer movies aimed at arthouse audiences. There's a weird mixture of broadness and specificity to Love, Simon that I think is completely intentional--it lulls the audience into relaxing, the movie is not demanding to watch at all, and then it throws in these richly written and pointed moments of queer experience that slip past the defenses.
posted by Automocar at 10:23 AM on March 26, 2018 [4 favorites]
Not to mention, if a gay dude can get it this wrong, what the hell can we expect from the straights?
I'm still flabbergasted that a wide release teen romcom told from a queer perspective is out in the world. There's a scene in the movie, narrated by Simon and his penpal crush, Blue, which flashes back to Simon's dreams about Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter and Blue's attraction to Jon Snow, as their queer awakening/realization, which feels like nothing else I've seen, even in all the tiny little queer movies aimed at arthouse audiences. There's a weird mixture of broadness and specificity to Love, Simon that I think is completely intentional--it lulls the audience into relaxing, the movie is not demanding to watch at all, and then it throws in these richly written and pointed moments of queer experience that slip past the defenses.
posted by Automocar at 10:23 AM on March 26, 2018 [4 favorites]
Love, Simon feels like a film responding to an entirely different culture, like one in which gay marriage was never legalized.
"Am I out of touch?
...
No, it's the films that are wrong."
posted by AlSweigart at 10:24 AM on March 26, 2018 [4 favorites]
"Am I out of touch?
...
No, it's the films that are wrong."
posted by AlSweigart at 10:24 AM on March 26, 2018 [4 favorites]
"we also need stories about LGBTQ youth that feels like a normal rom-com and aren't devastating tragedies all the time"
Yes. This is literally how I've been describing it to people and its big selling point to me: whatever the problems with Love, Simon at least nothing truly tragic happens to anyone. Simon gets to have his teen romance like every other teen romance, nobody is rejected by their family or murdered or anything. That's pretty powerful.
posted by selenized at 10:37 AM on March 26, 2018 [18 favorites]
Yes. This is literally how I've been describing it to people and its big selling point to me: whatever the problems with Love, Simon at least nothing truly tragic happens to anyone. Simon gets to have his teen romance like every other teen romance, nobody is rejected by their family or murdered or anything. That's pretty powerful.
posted by selenized at 10:37 AM on March 26, 2018 [18 favorites]
fuck this movie, fuck it's cheap theatrics, fuck it discounting other kinds of queerness, fuck its soft internalized self loathing, screw that its a handsome white cisboy. all these movies, all these coming out stories. exhausting, exless, kenbump bodies, no hair, no dirt, no sadness, just this edenic false suburban moneyed affulence that will cosset simon for the rest of his days.
worst, most odious movie this year.
posted by PinkMoose at 10:58 AM on March 26, 2018 [2 favorites]
worst, most odious movie this year.
posted by PinkMoose at 10:58 AM on March 26, 2018 [2 favorites]
I mean, I'm fine with "no sadness". I'm not sure why "sadness" has to be a requirement here. Or is that the joke?
posted by inconstant at 11:01 AM on March 26, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by inconstant at 11:01 AM on March 26, 2018 [3 favorites]
ill give you sadness, if the cute straightish white boy can actually fuck.
posted by PinkMoose at 11:16 AM on March 26, 2018
posted by PinkMoose at 11:16 AM on March 26, 2018
That was a rhetorical question. Trust, as a white cis gay dude myself, I'm constantly disappointed by them. (And by the straights. And by everyone else. The only person that doesn't disappoint me isn't a person. He's a dog.)
posted by Automocar at 11:16 AM on March 26, 2018
posted by Automocar at 11:16 AM on March 26, 2018
Time: Kids today are soOOOooo liberal......
Audience: How liberal are they?
Time: They're soooOOOooo liberal they watch Riverdale and don't need boring old coming-out stories.
The Time article had nothing to say about intersectionality. It was almost exclusively JAQing off regarding the need for LGBTQ advocacy to teens and young adults. I'm getting yet another article about a suicide in my inbox, and yet another article about heart attack and stroke risk, and yet another article about pregnancy risk in my inbox this week. So, JAQing off about whether teens really need Love, Simon or, on an organizational level, the PFLAG chapter we're trying to revive locally isn't going to be something I support.
The Time article doesn't come in a vacuum, it's part of a larger cultural questioning whether mass media has become "too gay" along with anxieties about whether youth attitudes regarding LGBTQ sexuality and gender have gone "too far." I have the pregnancy, substance abuse, bullying, and suicide studies to show that they've not gone nearly far enough.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 12:15 PM on March 26, 2018 [5 favorites]
Audience: How liberal are they?
Time: They're soooOOOooo liberal they watch Riverdale and don't need boring old coming-out stories.
The Time article had nothing to say about intersectionality. It was almost exclusively JAQing off regarding the need for LGBTQ advocacy to teens and young adults. I'm getting yet another article about a suicide in my inbox, and yet another article about heart attack and stroke risk, and yet another article about pregnancy risk in my inbox this week. So, JAQing off about whether teens really need Love, Simon or, on an organizational level, the PFLAG chapter we're trying to revive locally isn't going to be something I support.
The Time article doesn't come in a vacuum, it's part of a larger cultural questioning whether mass media has become "too gay" along with anxieties about whether youth attitudes regarding LGBTQ sexuality and gender have gone "too far." I have the pregnancy, substance abuse, bullying, and suicide studies to show that they've not gone nearly far enough.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 12:15 PM on March 26, 2018 [5 favorites]
Yes, Hollywood needs to do better regarding QTIPOC, trans, and non-normative LGBTQ people in cinema. But I don't think that requires assuming everything is perfectly ok for cis and white gay adolescents.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 1:09 PM on March 26, 2018 [7 favorites]
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 1:09 PM on March 26, 2018 [7 favorites]
Representation is not a zero sum game. A movie about a white gay guy doesn't preclude a movie about less well-represented people.
posted by Smearcase at 1:46 PM on March 26, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by Smearcase at 1:46 PM on March 26, 2018 [4 favorites]
I saw it and thought how nice it was that we can have regular, mainstream films about all kinds of people now. Seems like, we can have those films, but we still can't avoid people unnecessarily pointing out "this is a GAY movie! . Ill be happy when a movie like Love Simon is just a movie and " gay marriage " is just marriage...
posted by WalkerWestridge at 2:24 PM on March 26, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by WalkerWestridge at 2:24 PM on March 26, 2018 [3 favorites]
‘Love, Simon’ joins an important, ever-growing list: joyful representations of LGBTQ characters on screen.
posted by Artw at 11:08 PM on March 26, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Artw at 11:08 PM on March 26, 2018 [2 favorites]
Representation is not a zero sum game. A movie about a white gay guy doesn't preclude a movie about less well-represented people.
Yes, but it is irritating that white men are always expected to come first. A lot of the time it feels like you can't mention that of course this movie centers a cis white guy without people saying, "But baby steps!" Baby steps are important, but why is it that white men are always the first step, and the rest of us are expected to wait our turn?
And for what it's worth, speaking as a lesbian woc, I liked Love, Simon. I thought it was a cute escapist romcom/drama... I'll probably watch it in theaters again, honestly, which I don't often do. It's a completely sanitized film, sure, but I loved cute escapist sanitized (hetero) movies like 10 Things I Hate About You as a teen, too. Sometimes I just want a nice formulaic (mostly) angst-free romance, I don't want to always have to be put through the emotional wringer when I'm watching something gay.
Thank goodness I will always have Saving Face and DEBS.
posted by imnotasquirrel at 7:39 AM on March 27, 2018 [6 favorites]
Yes, but it is irritating that white men are always expected to come first. A lot of the time it feels like you can't mention that of course this movie centers a cis white guy without people saying, "But baby steps!" Baby steps are important, but why is it that white men are always the first step, and the rest of us are expected to wait our turn?
And for what it's worth, speaking as a lesbian woc, I liked Love, Simon. I thought it was a cute escapist romcom/drama... I'll probably watch it in theaters again, honestly, which I don't often do. It's a completely sanitized film, sure, but I loved cute escapist sanitized (hetero) movies like 10 Things I Hate About You as a teen, too. Sometimes I just want a nice formulaic (mostly) angst-free romance, I don't want to always have to be put through the emotional wringer when I'm watching something gay.
Thank goodness I will always have Saving Face and DEBS.
posted by imnotasquirrel at 7:39 AM on March 27, 2018 [6 favorites]
I hate to say it, because it's really gross that American society is like this, but: the first mainstream queer teen romcom was always going to be about a white cisman.
posted by Automocar at 11:08 AM on March 27, 2018
posted by Automocar at 11:08 AM on March 27, 2018
There's But I'm a Cheerleader, but it originally got an NC-17 back in 1999.
My primary beef is with "necessary," largely because I find the biggest challenge to LGBTQ advocacy is that things can't be that bad now that we got LGBTQ people on Netflix.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 11:34 AM on March 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
My primary beef is with "necessary," largely because I find the biggest challenge to LGBTQ advocacy is that things can't be that bad now that we got LGBTQ people on Netflix.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 11:34 AM on March 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Representation is not a zero sum game. A movie about a white gay guy doesn't preclude a movie about less well-represented people.
A mainstream release? Sure it does. There is a finite amount of money that 20th Century Fox, or any other production company, budgets in a given year. For every movie that gets made, there are probably dozens or hundreds that do not. Someone is choosing, presumably based on whether they think it will make a profit. Why do we have so many goddamn superhero movies these days when there are so many other stories to be told?
posted by AFABulous at 1:21 PM on March 27, 2018
A mainstream release? Sure it does. There is a finite amount of money that 20th Century Fox, or any other production company, budgets in a given year. For every movie that gets made, there are probably dozens or hundreds that do not. Someone is choosing, presumably based on whether they think it will make a profit. Why do we have so many goddamn superhero movies these days when there are so many other stories to be told?
posted by AFABulous at 1:21 PM on March 27, 2018
it originally got an NC-17 back in 1999
That must be purely for The Gay because there's nothing in it that wouldn't be on network TV now.
posted by Artw at 1:23 PM on March 27, 2018
That must be purely for The Gay because there's nothing in it that wouldn't be on network TV now.
posted by Artw at 1:23 PM on March 27, 2018
However, I do think that having Love, Simon is better than not having any representation of gay people. I haven't seen it but from all accounts it's a good movie.
posted by AFABulous at 1:23 PM on March 27, 2018
posted by AFABulous at 1:23 PM on March 27, 2018
My daughter, who is twelve, told me last year that she is bisexual. This year she wrestled with whether to invite her female crush to be her romantic date to the sixth-grade Valentine's dance. Holy cow. I thought the middle school social scene was an unnavigable morass when I was a straight white boy with a dumb-looking haircut. I will support my girl as hard as I can but I don't envy her a bit.
She inhaled this book earlier this year. The movie was "really really great, but the book was better."
The Time article complains that "kids like Simon, in 2018, already have a good shot at fitting in. They don't need this movie." I watch my girl going through the normal business of hating her changing body, and wondering whether her friends think she is too weird to associate with, and being convinced she's the only person who's ever felt this way, and I think the article is half right. She's got a great chance at fitting in --- and she needs to hear it.
posted by fantabulous timewaster at 8:54 PM on March 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
She inhaled this book earlier this year. The movie was "really really great, but the book was better."
The Time article complains that "kids like Simon, in 2018, already have a good shot at fitting in. They don't need this movie." I watch my girl going through the normal business of hating her changing body, and wondering whether her friends think she is too weird to associate with, and being convinced she's the only person who's ever felt this way, and I think the article is half right. She's got a great chance at fitting in --- and she needs to hear it.
posted by fantabulous timewaster at 8:54 PM on March 27, 2018 [4 favorites]
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But hey, Love, Simon and Gonzales evidently means we're in a post-homophobia society now according to media critics.
posted by GenderNullPointerException at 9:21 AM on March 26, 2018 [23 favorites]