Succession: The Reality TV Show
September 21, 2023 8:11 AM Subscribe
News Corporation and Fox News chair Rupert Murdoch announces he will step down from the helm of his media empire, handing control to his son Lachlan. (SLCNN)
Taking more of a background evil role and letting the kid focus on day to day evil.
posted by Artw at 8:22 AM on September 21, 2023 [24 favorites]
posted by Artw at 8:22 AM on September 21, 2023 [24 favorites]
Rupert Murdoch often wishes Donald Trump dead, Michael Wolff book says
posted by lalochezia at 8:28 AM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by lalochezia at 8:28 AM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
“Without him, we would not be here,”
Yes. Yes indeed. And he, his family, and all of his executives should be "Nuremburged" for it.
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 8:30 AM on September 21, 2023 [21 favorites]
Yes. Yes indeed. And he, his family, and all of his executives should be "Nuremburged" for it.
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 8:30 AM on September 21, 2023 [21 favorites]
There’s not even going to be any entertaining chaos when he dies, just a smooth tradition to new younger evil. I blame that show you all like for this.
posted by Artw at 8:31 AM on September 21, 2023 [18 favorites]
posted by Artw at 8:31 AM on September 21, 2023 [18 favorites]
Fox News chair Rupert Murdoch announces he will step down from the helm of his media empire...
Thank god!
...handing control to his son Lachlan.
Oh.
posted by Thorzdad at 8:33 AM on September 21, 2023 [4 favorites]
Thank god!
...handing control to his son Lachlan.
Oh.
posted by Thorzdad at 8:33 AM on September 21, 2023 [4 favorites]
die already tysm
posted by paimapi at 8:46 AM on September 21, 2023 [6 favorites]
posted by paimapi at 8:46 AM on September 21, 2023 [6 favorites]
Fascist immigrants shouldn't be this powerful. The USA was a much better place before he got here, all of our foibles included. There are very few people whose graves I'd dance upon, and he is on that Mt. Rushmore.
posted by Chuffy at 8:58 AM on September 21, 2023 [23 favorites]
posted by Chuffy at 8:58 AM on September 21, 2023 [23 favorites]
I blame that show you all like for this.
I don't think Mr. Twinkacetti had kids?
posted by mittens at 9:01 AM on September 21, 2023 [4 favorites]
I don't think Mr. Twinkacetti had kids?
posted by mittens at 9:01 AM on September 21, 2023 [4 favorites]
US Propaganda Minister resigns, states "My work here is done."
posted by tommasz at 9:06 AM on September 21, 2023 [7 favorites]
posted by tommasz at 9:06 AM on September 21, 2023 [7 favorites]
Whenever I see Rupert Murdoch's name I hope to see "has died" following it.
posted by cjorgensen at 9:27 AM on September 21, 2023 [12 favorites]
posted by cjorgensen at 9:27 AM on September 21, 2023 [12 favorites]
If we're not allowed to rejoice when he's dead let us do it now.
posted by symbioid at 9:28 AM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by symbioid at 9:28 AM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
"Rupert Murdoch often wishes Donald Trump dead, Michael Wolff book says"
So Wolff is trying to make Murdoch more relatable?
posted by jzb at 9:37 AM on September 21, 2023 [8 favorites]
So Wolff is trying to make Murdoch more relatable?
posted by jzb at 9:37 AM on September 21, 2023 [8 favorites]
Is this going to change anything other than the nameplate on a door or two?
posted by cmfletcher at 9:43 AM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by cmfletcher at 9:43 AM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
heh - the first edit to Lachlan Murdoch's wikipedia page after the announcement was to change his bio from 'eldest son' to 'eldest boy.'
posted by logicpunk at 9:43 AM on September 21, 2023 [22 favorites]
posted by logicpunk at 9:43 AM on September 21, 2023 [22 favorites]
Oh.
Lachlan is more ideologically extreme than his father, from what I read, responsible for much of the editorial doubling down on white supremacist and anti-vaxxer ideologies at FOX News over the last few years.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 9:44 AM on September 21, 2023 [11 favorites]
Lachlan is more ideologically extreme than his father, from what I read, responsible for much of the editorial doubling down on white supremacist and anti-vaxxer ideologies at FOX News over the last few years.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 9:44 AM on September 21, 2023 [11 favorites]
> handing control to his son Lachlan.
I used to say that at least capitalism is better than feudalism, but I wonder if they're all that different in practice.
posted by AlSweigart at 9:48 AM on September 21, 2023 [8 favorites]
I used to say that at least capitalism is better than feudalism, but I wonder if they're all that different in practice.
posted by AlSweigart at 9:48 AM on September 21, 2023 [8 favorites]
isn't capitalism just the method by which the overlords keep the proles happy in their feudal oppression? oooh so many choices of toilet paper!! wow quadruple stuff rainbow oreos!!!!!
its just another flavor of "opium for the masses".
posted by supermedusa at 9:58 AM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
its just another flavor of "opium for the masses".
posted by supermedusa at 9:58 AM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
Dennis potter (RIP) named his terminal cancer rupert, and this was in 1994.
posted by lalochezia at 10:36 AM on September 21, 2023 [6 favorites]
posted by lalochezia at 10:36 AM on September 21, 2023 [6 favorites]
Fascist immigrants shouldn't be this powerful.
ftfy. I get it, a lot of prominent billionaires immigrated to the US, and many of them retained dual citizenship. But I think calling out the "immigrant" part of this is harmful rhetoric. It's way better to just focus on the fact that billionaires are actively harmful to the interests of the people of the United States, regardless of what country they may have been born in. cf. Donald Trump, proto-fascist par excellence.
Rupert Murdoch worked to foster anti-democratic and anti-leftist values because he is a right bastard, not because he was born in Australia.
posted by Room 101 at 10:45 AM on September 21, 2023 [35 favorites]
ftfy. I get it, a lot of prominent billionaires immigrated to the US, and many of them retained dual citizenship. But I think calling out the "immigrant" part of this is harmful rhetoric. It's way better to just focus on the fact that billionaires are actively harmful to the interests of the people of the United States, regardless of what country they may have been born in. cf. Donald Trump, proto-fascist par excellence.
Rupert Murdoch worked to foster anti-democratic and anti-leftist values because he is a right bastard, not because he was born in Australia.
posted by Room 101 at 10:45 AM on September 21, 2023 [35 favorites]
Murdoch has poisoned societies he hasn't held citizenship in, the problem goes vastly beyond any changes he's made to his passport.
posted by EvaDestruction at 10:52 AM on September 21, 2023 [9 favorites]
posted by EvaDestruction at 10:52 AM on September 21, 2023 [9 favorites]
Murdoch waited to get US citizenship until he needed it to buy Metromedia.
posted by credulous at 11:42 AM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by credulous at 11:42 AM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
billionaires are actively harmful to the interests of the people of the United States
Harmful even to most of humanity, probably, being a very very very small fraction of us are billionaires and yet they have the unique resources to treat existential crises head on. Not intending to plagiarise Succession, but climate change denialism pushed by FOX News ownership, particularly, will probably end up killing hundreds of millions or even billions of people by the end of the century.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 11:44 AM on September 21, 2023 [5 favorites]
Harmful even to most of humanity, probably, being a very very very small fraction of us are billionaires and yet they have the unique resources to treat existential crises head on. Not intending to plagiarise Succession, but climate change denialism pushed by FOX News ownership, particularly, will probably end up killing hundreds of millions or even billions of people by the end of the century.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 11:44 AM on September 21, 2023 [5 favorites]
I had to look it up: Lachlan is the right wing one, and James is the one who made a speech about ecological issues a few years back.
So basically, more of the same coming down the tube. This shouldn’t be a surprise: people in the upper classes are often untroubled by anything outside their bubble, which is extremely pro wealth and the people who have it. The fox c-suite is just more obvious about it
posted by The River Ivel at 12:08 PM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
So basically, more of the same coming down the tube. This shouldn’t be a surprise: people in the upper classes are often untroubled by anything outside their bubble, which is extremely pro wealth and the people who have it. The fox c-suite is just more obvious about it
posted by The River Ivel at 12:08 PM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
supermedusa: its just another flavor of "opium for the masses".
I wasn't masses before I quadruple stuffed myself with Oreos.
posted by k3ninho at 12:47 PM on September 21, 2023 [5 favorites]
I wasn't masses before I quadruple stuffed myself with Oreos.
posted by k3ninho at 12:47 PM on September 21, 2023 [5 favorites]
Lachlan Murdoch is a very Scottish name. It would only be more Scottish if it were something like Hamish MacHaggis.
Which I thought I made up but after Googling I did not.
posted by kirkaracha at 1:37 PM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
Which I thought I made up but after Googling I did not.
posted by kirkaracha at 1:37 PM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
But I think calling out the "immigrant" part of this is harmful rhetoric.
It was an intentional use of harmful rhetoric against a hateful propagandist. I get your point, and I don't regret my words, either. I did it on purpose...fascists don't like it when you use their own rhetoric against them.
posted by Chuffy at 2:41 PM on September 21, 2023 [3 favorites]
It was an intentional use of harmful rhetoric against a hateful propagandist. I get your point, and I don't regret my words, either. I did it on purpose...fascists don't like it when you use their own rhetoric against them.
posted by Chuffy at 2:41 PM on September 21, 2023 [3 favorites]
They don’t give two shits. Being an immigrant or an Elite or a whatever is something that is a problem about other people, not them.
posted by Artw at 2:47 PM on September 21, 2023 [7 favorites]
posted by Artw at 2:47 PM on September 21, 2023 [7 favorites]
It was an intentional use of harmful rhetoric against a hateful propagandist. I get your point, and I don't regret my words, either. I did it on purpose...fascists don't like it when you use their own rhetoric against them.
The problem is that you didn't just use it against them, but against every immigrant. This is why hateful bigoted rhetoric is inherently inimical to justice.
posted by NoxAeternum at 2:53 PM on September 21, 2023 [14 favorites]
The problem is that you didn't just use it against them, but against every immigrant. This is why hateful bigoted rhetoric is inherently inimical to justice.
posted by NoxAeternum at 2:53 PM on September 21, 2023 [14 favorites]
fascists don't like it when you use their own rhetoric against them.
As much as I like the image of Rupert Murdoch browsing Metafilter and getting oh so mad at someone's ironic zinger it's, you know, a little unlikely
posted by jason_steakums at 3:12 PM on September 21, 2023 [6 favorites]
As much as I like the image of Rupert Murdoch browsing Metafilter and getting oh so mad at someone's ironic zinger it's, you know, a little unlikely
posted by jason_steakums at 3:12 PM on September 21, 2023 [6 favorites]
Isn't there supposed to be a dramatic board meeting with that Sledge Hammer! guy?
posted by credulous at 3:21 PM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by credulous at 3:21 PM on September 21, 2023 [1 favorite]
Sledge hammer guy? You mean Peter Gabriel, whose Sledgehammer was recently named the #1 music video of all time?
posted by caviar2d2 at 3:36 PM on September 21, 2023
posted by caviar2d2 at 3:36 PM on September 21, 2023
No relation: Sledge Hammer opening and closing credits.
posted by HeroZero at 4:00 PM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by HeroZero at 4:00 PM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
David Rasche will always be Sledge Hammer to me.
posted by leotrotsky at 4:18 PM on September 21, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 4:18 PM on September 21, 2023 [3 favorites]
die already tysm
We need to find the and destroy the phylacteries first.
It was an intentional use of harmful rhetoric against a hateful propagandist. I get your point, and I don't regret my words, either. I did it on purpose...fascists don't like it when you use their own rhetoric against them.
You didn't even manage that, mate. As far as people like Murdoch are concerned, only racially suspect people are immigrants. White people are expatriates.
posted by Jilder at 4:21 PM on September 21, 2023 [5 favorites]
We need to find the and destroy the phylacteries first.
It was an intentional use of harmful rhetoric against a hateful propagandist. I get your point, and I don't regret my words, either. I did it on purpose...fascists don't like it when you use their own rhetoric against them.
You didn't even manage that, mate. As far as people like Murdoch are concerned, only racially suspect people are immigrants. White people are expatriates.
posted by Jilder at 4:21 PM on September 21, 2023 [5 favorites]
Walter!
posted by clavdivs at 5:36 PM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by clavdivs at 5:36 PM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
So Lachlan, eh? The question we ask: Is he a serious person?
posted by storybored at 9:40 PM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by storybored at 9:40 PM on September 21, 2023 [2 favorites]
The problem is that you didn't just use it against them, but against every immigrant.
Respectfully, if I meant all immigrants, or every immigrant, I wouldn't have qualified my comment. I thought I was very specific...checks comment...yes. I was quite specific. I'm not really dug in to this argument, like I said, I get the point. I just disagree, and don't have the energy to get into a drawn out argument about "not all x (Australians, immigrants, capitalists, journalists, etc...)" Certainly all fascists, and in the case of Rupert Murdoch, I think it's a relevant detail.
As far as people like Murdoch are concerned, only racially suspect people are immigrants. White people are expatriates.
That's an interesting point. Fascist expatriates works for me, too.
posted by Chuffy at 12:59 AM on September 22, 2023 [1 favorite]
Respectfully, if I meant all immigrants, or every immigrant, I wouldn't have qualified my comment. I thought I was very specific...checks comment...yes. I was quite specific. I'm not really dug in to this argument, like I said, I get the point. I just disagree, and don't have the energy to get into a drawn out argument about "not all x (Australians, immigrants, capitalists, journalists, etc...)" Certainly all fascists, and in the case of Rupert Murdoch, I think it's a relevant detail.
As far as people like Murdoch are concerned, only racially suspect people are immigrants. White people are expatriates.
That's an interesting point. Fascist expatriates works for me, too.
posted by Chuffy at 12:59 AM on September 22, 2023 [1 favorite]
...but that also has semantic and rhetorical significance, in terms of changing the idea. I'm not willing to cede the meaning of words to fascists.
posted by Chuffy at 1:06 AM on September 22, 2023
posted by Chuffy at 1:06 AM on September 22, 2023
re: I'm not willing to cede the meaning of words to fascists.
I know you don’t mean it in a bad way, but I think it’s worth discussing anyway.
The problem with descriptors like fascist immigrants is that there’s an implication of "fascist because immigrant" or "all those damned fascist immigrants" which are perfectly valid readings of the phrase. Immigrants are one of those groups constantly attacked by, well, fascists and racists. So there’s a context there.
Fascist is a common stereotype of immigrants from and in a number countries. I’ve rarely had a Fox News type call me bad names directly (although I have been called a dumb or dirty immigrant before) ... but the number of times I’ve encountered micro aggressions in my encounters with educated people about racism/fascism/anti-semitism based on my origin I cannot count.
I hope this isn’t a derail, I mean, we are talking about Fox News here. They love to abuse ambiguity. "I don’t mean those people" is the unofficial motto of Fox News and their viewership.
posted by UN at 1:57 AM on September 22, 2023 [5 favorites]
I know you don’t mean it in a bad way, but I think it’s worth discussing anyway.
The problem with descriptors like fascist immigrants is that there’s an implication of "fascist because immigrant" or "all those damned fascist immigrants" which are perfectly valid readings of the phrase. Immigrants are one of those groups constantly attacked by, well, fascists and racists. So there’s a context there.
Fascist is a common stereotype of immigrants from and in a number countries. I’ve rarely had a Fox News type call me bad names directly (although I have been called a dumb or dirty immigrant before) ... but the number of times I’ve encountered micro aggressions in my encounters with educated people about racism/fascism/anti-semitism based on my origin I cannot count.
I hope this isn’t a derail, I mean, we are talking about Fox News here. They love to abuse ambiguity. "I don’t mean those people" is the unofficial motto of Fox News and their viewership.
posted by UN at 1:57 AM on September 22, 2023 [5 favorites]
I used to say that at least capitalism is better than feudalism, but I wonder if they're all that different in practice.
Nope. Feudalism is the inevitable (and intentional) end stage of capitalism.
posted by JohnFromGR at 2:10 AM on September 22, 2023
Nope. Feudalism is the inevitable (and intentional) end stage of capitalism.
posted by JohnFromGR at 2:10 AM on September 22, 2023
Rupert Murdoch’s Succession guide: Is Lachlan a Kendall or a Roman?
posted by chavenet at 4:37 AM on September 22, 2023
posted by chavenet at 4:37 AM on September 22, 2023
Yay, more social division and angried up useful idiots.
posted by neonamber at 6:07 AM on September 22, 2023
posted by neonamber at 6:07 AM on September 22, 2023
The problem with descriptors like fascist immigrants is that there’s an implication of "fascist because immigrant" or "all those damned fascist immigrants" which are perfectly valid readings of the phrase.
That's fair. Being less economical with words, all I meant to convey was that an Australian-born, fascist news mogul moved to the USA and created the largest, most devastating propaganda outlet in history. A large portion of his influence has been demonizing immigrants, a group to which he belongs.
posted by Chuffy at 10:51 AM on September 22, 2023 [1 favorite]
That's fair. Being less economical with words, all I meant to convey was that an Australian-born, fascist news mogul moved to the USA and created the largest, most devastating propaganda outlet in history. A large portion of his influence has been demonizing immigrants, a group to which he belongs.
posted by Chuffy at 10:51 AM on September 22, 2023 [1 favorite]
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They really do tell on themselves, don't they.
posted by muddgirl at 8:21 AM on September 21, 2023 [13 favorites]