"A snapshot in time"
October 20, 2005 9:09 AM Subscribe
Please tell me his name is Steve Rogers.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:11 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:11 AM on October 20, 2005
"Normally, what we deal with is skeletal remains, but in this case here it would be a fresher individual," Mann said.
Fresher is better.
posted by stbalbach at 9:20 AM on October 20, 2005
Fresher is better.
posted by stbalbach at 9:20 AM on October 20, 2005
I wonder if the icepack in the Sierras is shrinking, and if that had to do with this discovery. Maybe all sorts of people will start turning up in various previously frozen places.
posted by Danf at 9:22 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by Danf at 9:22 AM on October 20, 2005
Please tell me his name is Steve Rogers.
Then the title would have been "WWII Supersoldier found frozen in ice".
posted by ToasT at 9:23 AM on October 20, 2005
Then the title would have been "WWII Supersoldier found frozen in ice".
posted by ToasT at 9:23 AM on October 20, 2005
Good thing he wasn't found by a bunch of Uruguayan rugby players.
posted by bondcliff at 9:25 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by bondcliff at 9:25 AM on October 20, 2005
Encino Man did this plot first.
posted by secret about box at 9:26 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by secret about box at 9:26 AM on October 20, 2005
Of the 88,000 U.S. war veterans missing, 78,000 are from World War II.Wow--I had no idea.
posted by MrMoonPie at 9:27 AM on October 20, 2005
I like when I come to metafilter and find the same headlines as on CNN's site. Repitition aids retention.
posted by IndpMed at 9:28 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by IndpMed at 9:28 AM on October 20, 2005
Xowie does have an impressive posting history. Sorry about the snark.
posted by IndpMed at 9:32 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by IndpMed at 9:32 AM on October 20, 2005
I'm wondering if the guy who packed his 'chute is still alive.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 9:32 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 9:32 AM on October 20, 2005
The pictures were disappointing. I had somehow got my hopes up for a WWII soldier frozen in a block of ice.
This just looks like a bunch of old clothes. :(
posted by sveskemus at 9:33 AM on October 20, 2005
This just looks like a bunch of old clothes. :(
posted by sveskemus at 9:33 AM on October 20, 2005
I wonder if the icepack in the Sierras is shrinking
The snowpack in the Sierra Nevadas varies from year to year. It has more to do with rainfall than with shrinking icepacks. The airman was found near Mt. Mendel. Here are two photos from 1976 and 1978 that show the difference between a dry year and a wet year. What's strange is that Sierra Nevadas received near record snowfalls last year.
posted by three blind mice at 9:34 AM on October 20, 2005
The snowpack in the Sierra Nevadas varies from year to year. It has more to do with rainfall than with shrinking icepacks. The airman was found near Mt. Mendel. Here are two photos from 1976 and 1978 that show the difference between a dry year and a wet year. What's strange is that Sierra Nevadas received near record snowfalls last year.
posted by three blind mice at 9:34 AM on October 20, 2005
Hey IndPd, guess what, I don't read CNN and I like this! THBBBpppptttt. Just don't click. :(
posted by cavalier at 9:35 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by cavalier at 9:35 AM on October 20, 2005
The frozen body was immediately pointed toward Mecca and burned.
posted by notmydesk at 9:42 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by notmydesk at 9:42 AM on October 20, 2005
So did the military let him know he's still got another 6 months on his tour and he's needed in Iraq?
posted by fenriq at 9:56 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by fenriq at 9:56 AM on October 20, 2005
R.Mutt and fenriq tied for first!
posted by StarForce5 at 10:00 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by StarForce5 at 10:00 AM on October 20, 2005
So did the military let him know he's still got another 6 months on his tour and he's needed in Iraq?
No, but they'll probably make him pay for not returning the parachute.
posted by tetsuo at 10:06 AM on October 20, 2005
No, but they'll probably make him pay for not returning the parachute.
posted by tetsuo at 10:06 AM on October 20, 2005
Hell, they probably declared him AWOL.
posted by alumshubby at 10:30 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by alumshubby at 10:30 AM on October 20, 2005
It's Iceman!
When they found him did they say "No. You can be my wingman"?
posted by srboisvert at 10:40 AM on October 20, 2005
When they found him did they say "No. You can be my wingman"?
posted by srboisvert at 10:40 AM on October 20, 2005
"hey, joe, got a light?"
posted by pyramid termite at 10:59 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by pyramid termite at 10:59 AM on October 20, 2005
Thank god for global warming. Phooey on all you chicken littles!
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 11:15 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 11:15 AM on October 20, 2005
"It's almost a snapshot in time," said Dr. Bob Mann, deputy scientific director of the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command, based in Hawaii. "This crewman, whoever he turns out to be, he's somebody who went missing 60 years ago. He was in this one position all that time. It's like opening a time capsule -- what did he have in his pockets? What did he have with him?"
Is 60 years so long ago that we can't possibly imagine what's in his pockets? It's not like he's the frickin' Lindow man.
posted by lunalaguna at 11:52 AM on October 20, 2005
Is 60 years so long ago that we can't possibly imagine what's in his pockets? It's not like he's the frickin' Lindow man.
posted by lunalaguna at 11:52 AM on October 20, 2005
In addition to being very remote, Mts. Mendel, Darwin, and the other mountains that form the backdrop to Evolution Valley are staggeringly beautiful. (Mendel is the nearer peak on the left.) Not that that mattered a whole lot to the poor airman on the glacier...
Due to the climbing and hiking opportunities, this area does get a fair amount of off-trail traffic. Interesting that his body wasn't discovered until now.
posted by mosk at 11:54 AM on October 20, 2005
Due to the climbing and hiking opportunities, this area does get a fair amount of off-trail traffic. Interesting that his body wasn't discovered until now.
posted by mosk at 11:54 AM on October 20, 2005
Yeah, what DID the Lindow man have in his pockets anyway?
posted by stenseng at 11:54 AM on October 20, 2005
posted by stenseng at 11:54 AM on October 20, 2005
From Gamblors link, Buckys legal status: Citizen on the United States with no criminal record
On?
posted by Jawn at 11:59 AM on October 20, 2005
On?
posted by Jawn at 11:59 AM on October 20, 2005
Danf: the ice packs in northern North America are melting. Two recent ice-melt projects:
- a 500 year old Tahltan or Aishihik man complete with hat, robes, weapons, etc (see also 1,2)
- dozens of spears, arrows and darts (some complete with feathers and ochre designs) from Yukon ice patches. These date from recent to ca. 8,000 years old (see also 1, 2
3 (PDF), 4).
posted by Rumple at 12:08 PM on October 20, 2005
- a 500 year old Tahltan or Aishihik man complete with hat, robes, weapons, etc (see also 1,2)
- dozens of spears, arrows and darts (some complete with feathers and ochre designs) from Yukon ice patches. These date from recent to ca. 8,000 years old (see also 1, 2
3 (PDF), 4).
posted by Rumple at 12:08 PM on October 20, 2005
I wonder how the life insurance made available to US military personnel deals with being missing as opposed to killed. Does it pay after a certain length of time?
posted by alumshubby at 1:21 PM on October 20, 2005
posted by alumshubby at 1:21 PM on October 20, 2005
alumshubby: I think you have to petition the courts to have the servicemember declared dead, after a period defined under state law. After that the insurance company must pay out.
Of the 88,000 U.S. war veterans missing, 78,000 are from World War II.
Many are sailors, others lost in trackless jungles.
posted by dhartung at 2:30 PM on October 20, 2005
Of the 88,000 U.S. war veterans missing, 78,000 are from World War II.
Many are sailors, others lost in trackless jungles.
posted by dhartung at 2:30 PM on October 20, 2005
Gamblor: Bucky is still dead though, right? Oh, thank god.
Not according to the latest Captain America storyline.
posted by handshake at 2:30 PM on October 20, 2005
Not according to the latest Captain America storyline.
posted by handshake at 2:30 PM on October 20, 2005
yossarian lives!
posted by Dean Keaton at 4:54 PM on October 20, 2005
posted by Dean Keaton at 4:54 PM on October 20, 2005
That guy is what the entirety of Minneapolis feels like come mid-February.
posted by maxsparber at 6:24 PM on October 20, 2005
posted by maxsparber at 6:24 PM on October 20, 2005
“The ice-caps are melting, the tide is rushing in
All the world is drowning, to wash away the sin ..” - Tiny Tim, ~ '68
posted by troutfishing at 9:35 PM on October 20, 2005
All the world is drowning, to wash away the sin ..” - Tiny Tim, ~ '68
posted by troutfishing at 9:35 PM on October 20, 2005
"Many are sailors, others lost in trackless jungles." - Still others were snatched up by malevolent aliens or dragged to the sea floor by sharp beaked, hungry Cephalopods.
Awful deaths to be sure.
posted by troutfishing at 9:37 PM on October 20, 2005
Awful deaths to be sure.
posted by troutfishing at 9:37 PM on October 20, 2005
I don't know about you guys, but I feel much more sorry for the desecrated Taliban bodies than I do for the frozen crashed WWII airman. After all, the Taliban bodies were being mocked for their being Taliban members, and the frozen guy was just frozen without being ridiculed by the Axis people.
Can we start some sort of poll whereby we can keep track of who deserves more sympathy here?
posted by shoos at 1:17 AM on October 21, 2005
Can we start some sort of poll whereby we can keep track of who deserves more sympathy here?
posted by shoos at 1:17 AM on October 21, 2005
Dead bodies don't need sympathy.
posted by Joeforking at 2:33 AM on October 21, 2005
posted by Joeforking at 2:33 AM on October 21, 2005
poll, please. we have to make this objective. if methafilter isn't objective it is nothing at all. I should probably make a metatalk post where I ask Matt to allow us to start polls here. otherwise, it's just like the nazi/kkk's where they take away you're rights.
posted by shoos at 3:33 AM on October 21, 2005
posted by shoos at 3:33 AM on October 21, 2005
I agree with Mr. Moon. It's crazy that so many of the missing soldiers are from WW2. Are they covered by the POW/MIA flags?
posted by OmieWise at 8:55 AM on October 21, 2005
posted by OmieWise at 8:55 AM on October 21, 2005
poll, please. we have to make this objective. if methafilter isn't objective it is nothing at all. I should probably make a metatalk post where I ask Matt to allow us to start polls here. otherwise, it's just like the nazi/kkk's where they take away you're rights.
posted by shoos at 3:33 AM PST on October 21
Your comments make no sense.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 10:43 AM on October 21, 2005
posted by shoos at 3:33 AM PST on October 21
Your comments make no sense.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 10:43 AM on October 21, 2005
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