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March 29, 2006 3:03 PM Subscribe
Taste's great! Less filling! So did "several former judges who served on the panel also voiced skepticism at a Senate hearing about the president's constitutional authority to order wiretapping on Americans without a court order" or did "FISA judges say Bush within law"? Just in case you doubted that different newspapers present news stories (even those with official audio coverage available!) differently...
Compare NYTimes stories to other publications daily and you will no longer hold them up as any 'paper of record'.
They are just more sophisticated in their manipulation.
Essentially Spin-for-Snobs.
posted by HTuttle at 4:03 PM on March 29, 2006
They are just more sophisticated in their manipulation.
Essentially Spin-for-Snobs.
posted by HTuttle at 4:03 PM on March 29, 2006
I agree with HTuttle, which is why I get all my news from MetaFilter.
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:01 PM on March 29, 2006
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:01 PM on March 29, 2006
Compare NYTimes stories to other publications daily and you will no longer hold them up as any 'paper of record'.
Especially anything that had a Judith Miller byline.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 5:05 PM on March 29, 2006
Especially anything that had a Judith Miller byline.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 5:05 PM on March 29, 2006
I doubt I'm the only one who guessed both papers before even mousing over the links, and I'm a Canadian FFS. I know, I know, I did this to myself.
posted by furtive at 6:17 PM on March 29, 2006
posted by furtive at 6:17 PM on March 29, 2006
The Washington Times seems to contradict the NYTimes, and some of you jokers think that's evidence the NYTimes is propaganda?
posted by grobstein at 7:54 PM on March 29, 2006
posted by grobstein at 7:54 PM on March 29, 2006
Although the apostrophe comic FPP was deleted, we nonetheless must STOP bad apostrophe use. Please.
The taste does not possess anything. And the WashTimes is a cult rag.
posted by moonbird at 8:54 PM on March 29, 2006
The taste does not possess anything. And the WashTimes is a cult rag.
posted by moonbird at 8:54 PM on March 29, 2006
And my mistake was a quick, sloppy typo in my haste to post, rather than a sign of the approaching apocalypse. Take a deep breath, put your head between your legs for a moment, and you'll feel much better...
posted by twsf at 10:30 PM on March 29, 2006
posted by twsf at 10:30 PM on March 29, 2006
the nyt is spin-for-snobs, especially the horribly classist style section. To read it is to know the rank ignorance of the "materially comfortable."
oh the whole, npr and nyt are neck and neck in this regard.
although i can't blame npr, since they are actually mandated to avoid making money. really. if a program makes money, it can't be on the national radio in the US. the snobbery is the result of pandering to people with dough.
But both are leagues better than spin-for-bootlicking-wacko authoritarian-moonies.
I prefer spin-for-hardcore-investigators of the powerful, m'self.
posted by eustatic at 11:01 PM on March 29, 2006
oh the whole, npr and nyt are neck and neck in this regard.
although i can't blame npr, since they are actually mandated to avoid making money. really. if a program makes money, it can't be on the national radio in the US. the snobbery is the result of pandering to people with dough.
But both are leagues better than spin-for-bootlicking-wacko authoritarian-moonies.
I prefer spin-for-hardcore-investigators of the powerful, m'self.
posted by eustatic at 11:01 PM on March 29, 2006
I don't have the heart to search for the FOX News headine, which was probably, "Judges Slam Dems as Soft on Terrorism."
posted by digaman at 7:33 AM on March 30, 2006
posted by digaman at 7:33 AM on March 30, 2006
The bloggers at Powerline have obtained the actual transcript of the judges testimony and conclude that the NYTimes reporter is lying through his teeth. They present extensive exerpts of that testimony here and here.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 7:50 AM on March 30, 2006
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 7:50 AM on March 30, 2006
Wow, a bad newspaper (the NYT) up against a straight up, Republican propaganda organ. Neat.
And Den Beste: a link to Powerline is a sign of brain damage.
posted by teece at 10:17 AM on March 30, 2006
And Den Beste: a link to Powerline is a sign of brain damage.
posted by teece at 10:17 AM on March 30, 2006
The first Powerline article claims to link the fulltext:
We promised to obtain the transcript of the hearing and figure out who was right. The transcript is available here.
... but when you follow that link to Fednews, you see:
Registered users, please login to view the full transcript:
Not a registered user? Please contact us to inquire about a subscription.
I wonder how much a subscription costs? I'd really like to see the whole transcript and form my own opinion. There are a number of "***" deletions in the Powerline excerpts; these could be hiding a world of misinterpretation.
[twsf: I was unable to find anything useful on the C-Span site]
posted by nickp at 10:45 PM on March 30, 2006
We promised to obtain the transcript of the hearing and figure out who was right. The transcript is available here.
... but when you follow that link to Fednews, you see:
Registered users, please login to view the full transcript:
Not a registered user? Please contact us to inquire about a subscription.
I wonder how much a subscription costs? I'd really like to see the whole transcript and form my own opinion. There are a number of "***" deletions in the Powerline excerpts; these could be hiding a world of misinterpretation.
[twsf: I was unable to find anything useful on the C-Span site]
posted by nickp at 10:45 PM on March 30, 2006
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Damn, no more blink tag!
posted by [expletive deleted] at 3:26 PM on March 29, 2006