Yeah I got a half a bag of mothballs and some cedar chips left over from last night
August 1, 2006 10:42 AM   Subscribe

Jack Shafer takes on the mothball epidemic that's sweeping through the United States. CNN
posted by geoff. (41 comments total)
 
Journalists are stupid.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 10:48 AM on August 1, 2006


Um, this was reported in the New England Journal of Medicine but the two sisters are French and live in Frenchland. So its hard to say its "sweeping" the US.

I wish smoking dope wasn't so passe with the youth of today. Next you'll hear about kids snorting Lye to get high (and roto-rooter their nasal passages and brains).
posted by fenriq at 10:51 AM on August 1, 2006


"It is very strange that something that makes headlines as an intoxicant is ignored as a pollutant."

gasoline, glue ...
posted by mrgrimm at 10:53 AM on August 1, 2006


Sounds fun, I'll give it a try when I'm done smoking my banana peels.
posted by furiousxgeorge at 10:54 AM on August 1, 2006


furious, cut it with a little nutmeg, it adds a lovely flavor and you'll adore the convulsions!
posted by fenriq at 10:55 AM on August 1, 2006


Um, this was reported in the New England Journal of Medicine but the two sisters are French and live in Frenchland. So its hard to say its "sweeping" the US.

That's sorta kinda the point of the article.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 10:56 AM on August 1, 2006


Mothballs, Goofballs.

But really, inability to access less harmful but more fun drugs causes people to turn to these dangerous things. Overdemonization of drugs in schools causes kids to think all potential intoxicants are equally bad for you.
posted by delmoi at 10:58 AM on August 1, 2006


Call me when the victims asphyxiate themselves with plastic and are found hanging in the attic. Meanwhile, I'll keep my nose clear for the day my son smells like Grandma's wool church hat.
posted by hal9k at 10:58 AM on August 1, 2006


I wish I could get high off of mothballs, but with all the coke I do, I don't think I can afford to buy them.
posted by shmegegge at 11:04 AM on August 1, 2006


sniffing mothballs?

How do you get their legs apart?
posted by jonmc at 11:07 AM on August 1, 2006 [5 favorites]


The EPA on naphthalene.
posted by cenoxo at 11:14 AM on August 1, 2006


Yeah, can someone point out the balls on this thing?
posted by shoepal at 11:14 AM on August 1, 2006


I'm reminded of a quote by Mencken.
posted by clevershark at 11:15 AM on August 1, 2006


Yeah, can someone point out the balls on this thing?

That's a moth larva, silly. Only the adults have balls.
posted by String at 11:28 AM on August 1, 2006


Bloodletting can get you high.
posted by JJ86 at 11:34 AM on August 1, 2006


Damn kids these days. In my day we took our 500 mics of LSD and we were happy to get it, but apparently, LSD isn't good enough for them these days. Damn stupid kids..
posted by doctor_negative at 11:35 AM on August 1, 2006


I wonder if this is some perverse consequence of the anti-drug policies so common these days... kids want to get high, but drugs are bad! So they can't do drugs! But mothballs, not being drugs, must not be bad. QED. Or something.
posted by GuyZero at 11:50 AM on August 1, 2006


jonmc writes "sniffing mothballs?

"How do you get their legs apart?"


Reminds me of this story about a man who was a little too passionate about rabbits. Apparently (and this is from another story that has since disappeared in the ether) the people at the pet shop he used to frequent got suspicious when he showed up with little scratch marks around his mouth.
posted by clevershark at 11:50 AM on August 1, 2006


Meh. The media figured out a long time ago that if you want to sell papers/sell ad spots/gather eyeballs the thing to do is tell Americans about some new drug craze, because they eat that sh*t up.
posted by clevershark at 11:51 AM on August 1, 2006


French Girls on Mothballs....Rabelais, Celine, Appollinaire, Desnos, Houellebecq...they are just following in the footsteps of the greats, if you ask me.
posted by kozad at 11:54 AM on August 1, 2006


Overdemonization of drugs in schools causes kids to think all potential intoxicants are equally bad good for you.

My take-home message from the "drug education" I got in school (consisting mostly of scare stories that didn't seem plausible even to a sixth grader) was that the educators were clueless and that most illegal drugs, as opposed to, say, cigarettes and alcohol, were harmless, outside of their illegal and uncontrolled nature. I lay my wide experimentation with intoxicants directly at the feet of the anti-drug establishment and I believe I am fairly representative. I reserve judgement on whether this is a good or bad thing.
posted by Mental Wimp at 11:55 AM on August 1, 2006


Didn't Jack Shafer just make the problem worse, by spreading the information that mothballs can get you high? Now all sorts of Mefiesdumbasses are going to give it a try.

Quick, ban the media from reporting drug stories!!1
posted by Kickstart70 at 11:56 AM on August 1, 2006


Silver-lining: They may get festering lesions and fry their brains, but at least those girls won't get holes in their sweaters.
posted by Gamblor at 12:01 PM on August 1, 2006


most illegal drugs...were harmless

I've been trying to get my kids to do drugs too. So far, they've said no to heroin, cocaine and meth. I blame it on the lousy school system in my area.

@Mental Wimp
Please post some links to research that shows these drugs are harmless. Do it for the kids.
posted by sluglicker at 12:46 PM on August 1, 2006


Please post some links to research that shows these drugs are harmless. Do it for the kids.
posted by sluglicker at 12:46 PM PST on August 1


Why don't you start off by finding the LD50 for marijuana and then get back to us?
posted by Optimus Chyme at 12:51 PM on August 1, 2006


Didn't Jack Shafer just make the problem worse, by spreading the information that mothballs can get you high? Now all sorts of Mefiesdumbasses are going to give it a try.

The only people who read the papers looking for things to do are terrorists. Jack Shafer just saved your life.
posted by srboisvert at 12:55 PM on August 1, 2006


Why don't you start off by finding the LD50 for marijuana and then get back to us?

For smoking, ingestion, or having bales dropped on you? For the latter, it is about 175 pounds at 20 feet.
posted by eriko at 12:56 PM on August 1, 2006


Do you see marijuana on my list? Freakin' idiots.
posted by sluglicker at 1:08 PM on August 1, 2006


Unless Mental Wimp died in the last couple of hours, I'd say he's proven they weren't fatal.

I note that he says that "harmless" was his take-home-opinion from school drug classes, not his statement of fact or current belief. That being said, heroin, cocaine, and meth all have a place in current medical treatments, though sometimes in synthetic form. The idea that these substances aren't instantly harmful is not new or novel, when tempered with moderation.
posted by nomisxid at 1:24 PM on August 1, 2006


So who here is going to try this and tell the rest of us what it is like, erowid style?
posted by geoff. at 1:32 PM on August 1, 2006


if you want to sell papers/sell ad spots/gather eyeballs the thing to do is tell Americans about some new drug craze, because they eat that sh*t up.

But does eating it up get them high, or not?


posted by Kirth Gerson at 1:33 PM on August 1, 2006


It's paradichlorobenzene (1,4-dichlorobenzene) not naphthalene. From the looks of things it's similar in action to naphthalene though, it still causes narcosis and presumably the same kinds of hallucinations. It looks like it's the same as sniffing any solvent but in solid form, causes liver problems and slow brain death. Not a nice way to go or a particularly nice high by most reports.
posted by bonehead at 1:39 PM on August 1, 2006


The only safe and sane solution is to ban all woolen fabrics.
posted by Cranberry at 1:45 PM on August 1, 2006


Do you see marijuana on my list? Freakin' idiots.
posted by sluglicker at 1:08 PM PST on August 1


thanks napoleon
posted by Optimus Chyme at 1:58 PM on August 1, 2006


Reminds me of the Dustoff hysteria. The real tragedy is how intensely, rock-stupid these kids are. Now they can grow up, breed, and make adorable low-watt children in moth-eaten sweaters.
posted by elderling at 2:14 PM on August 1, 2006


How strange it is that the answer to having less brain dead kids is to legalize pot.
posted by hexxed at 3:08 PM on August 1, 2006


I note that he says that "harmless" was his take-home-opinion from school drug classes, not his statement of fact or current belief

You're right. I misunderstood his meaning. Apologies to Mental Wimp.
posted by sluglicker at 3:33 PM on August 1, 2006


Maybe we should start inventing new drugs. Like say, rubbing apple skins in your armpits or shoving broccoli up your butt?

Because, you know, ER doctors need a laugh every now and then too.
posted by fenriq at 4:03 PM on August 1, 2006




Maybe we should start inventing new drugs.

A prophet from the 1980s, Huey Lewis, spoke movingly of this.
posted by First Post at 8:18 PM on August 1, 2006


GuyZero writes "I wonder if this is some perverse consequence of the anti-drug policies so common these days... kids want to get high, but drugs are bad! So they can't do drugs! But mothballs, not being drugs, must not be bad. QED. Or something."

More like the war on drugs makes relatively safe stuff like alcohol and cannabis difficult to get so the stupid and/or foolish turn to dangerous stuff like moth balls and gasoline. It's a real problem in northern communities in Canada where the illegal drug trade is hampered by lack of access and the poverty of the residents.

Optimus Chyme writes "Why don't you start off by finding the LD50 for marijuana and then get back to us?"

DA: Harm often occurs before death. A pointy stick to the eye will hurt but probably won't kill you.
posted by Mitheral at 11:41 AM on August 8, 2006


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