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October 30, 2008 9:41 AM Subscribe
Marina Hyde blogs on the Guardian website about the ludicrous press release circulating about Lily Allen's new album, referring to her as 'the Wordsworth of her generation'. Then Lily herself uses her right to reply,snipes about the journalist's affair with Piers Morgan, and debate ensues about the difference between her cheeky public persona and the fragile, defensive lass within.
Posted because I think I now love Marina Hyde.
Posted because I think I now love Marina Hyde.
Whoah, hang on a moment - you mean to tell me a pop star's press agent used great hyperbole to hype their artist's new labum? Holy crap when did they start doing this? No wonder Hyde is shocked.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 9:53 AM on October 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 9:53 AM on October 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
Allen does come off as pretty unpleasant in the later exchanges. I used to think she was quite refreshing as well
posted by minifigs at 9:59 AM on October 30, 2008
posted by minifigs at 9:59 AM on October 30, 2008
I thought it was funny when Ms Allen called Geldof a 'sanctimonious prat.'
posted by dog food sugar at 10:02 AM on October 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by dog food sugar at 10:02 AM on October 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
"I used to be intimidated by the British. I thought they were superior in taste, style and breeding. And then I saw Benny Hill."
Swap 'Benny Hill' for 'British Pop Culture In General', and it's as on the money as Allen's characterization of Geldof.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:05 AM on October 30, 2008
Swap 'Benny Hill' for 'British Pop Culture In General', and it's as on the money as Allen's characterization of Geldof.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:05 AM on October 30, 2008
Also, I rather liked Allen's initial response to this. The later comment referencing the journalist's affair is unfortunate, but it seems like a comment war between a whipsmart pop star and a snarky music blogger more than anything else.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 10:07 AM on October 30, 2008
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 10:07 AM on October 30, 2008
I am currently posting a comment to a post about a comment to a post about a press release.
That's a bit too Meta for my tastes.
posted by Sys Rq at 10:08 AM on October 30, 2008 [6 favorites]
That's a bit too Meta for my tastes.
posted by Sys Rq at 10:08 AM on October 30, 2008 [6 favorites]
Right, my siding with Allen is only after the first exchange. I don't really care what flamewar they subsequently got into. (Actually, I don't really care about the first exchange either...so why am I posting?)
posted by DU at 10:11 AM on October 30, 2008
posted by DU at 10:11 AM on October 30, 2008
Lily Allen is pretty cute. I thought about resetting jessamyn's Cooter Clock, but I won't.
The first link is oh-so-slightly NSFW if you work at a prudish place.
Looks like some of her comments have been removed.
I've never even heard of any of these people!
Under the "cheeky" link it claims she disparages quite a few artists I respect, so will probably give her a pass.
I do think if your going to do PR for a public figure, write bad prose, and send it out, you are fair game for a bit of ridicule.
posted by cjorgensen at 10:14 AM on October 30, 2008
The first link is oh-so-slightly NSFW if you work at a prudish place.
Looks like some of her comments have been removed.
I've never even heard of any of these people!
Under the "cheeky" link it claims she disparages quite a few artists I respect, so will probably give her a pass.
I do think if your going to do PR for a public figure, write bad prose, and send it out, you are fair game for a bit of ridicule.
posted by cjorgensen at 10:14 AM on October 30, 2008
There was a little old lady, who was walkin' down the road, she was struggling with bags from Tesco.
There were people from the city having lunch in the park I believe that it's called al fresco.
posted by Kwantsar at 10:21 AM on October 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
There were people from the city having lunch in the park I believe that it's called al fresco.
posted by Kwantsar at 10:21 AM on October 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
When I saw the press agent was named Murray, in my head he became this man.
posted by stupidsexyFlanders at 10:25 AM on October 30, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by stupidsexyFlanders at 10:25 AM on October 30, 2008 [2 favorites]
a comment war between a whipsmart pop star and a snarky music blogger more than anything else
That about says it all. I have no need for either of these types in my life.
posted by grounded at 10:25 AM on October 30, 2008
That about says it all. I have no need for either of these types in my life.
posted by grounded at 10:25 AM on October 30, 2008
"Have a giggle about this, put it down to experience and then write a song rhyming 'Marina' with 'Fellini, ya?'..."
That lady totally has Allen's number.
posted by chunking express at 10:39 AM on October 30, 2008
That lady totally has Allen's number.
posted by chunking express at 10:39 AM on October 30, 2008
She's not a music blogger - she writes a satirical column on showbiz in the Guardian;s G2, and the political comment in the main paper.
posted by mippy at 10:47 AM on October 30, 2008
posted by mippy at 10:47 AM on October 30, 2008
Irony is that Lily Allen probably is the Woodsworth of the myspace generation. She's what they deserve.
I fond her music to be ok, but a bit meh.
Smile.
posted by cjorgensen at 11:10 AM on October 30, 2008
I fond her music to be ok, but a bit meh.
Smile.
posted by cjorgensen at 11:10 AM on October 30, 2008
Bah the sleeping with Morgan allegation has been deleted by a moderator. Anyway I thought it was The Guardian's Editor she was supposed to have had an affair with? Piers as well, blimey.
Still, do quite like some of Allen's songs but on this evidence she's had a total sense of humour failure and she certainly isn't' not lady. Marina, however is a goddess among women (depsite writing a lot about football, oh well no-one is perfect)
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 11:22 AM on October 30, 2008
Still, do quite like some of Allen's songs but on this evidence she's had a total sense of humour failure and she certainly isn't' not lady. Marina, however is a goddess among women (depsite writing a lot about football, oh well no-one is perfect)
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 11:22 AM on October 30, 2008
Irony is that Lily Allen probably is the Woodsworth of the myspace generation. She's what they deserve.
What hope now for Social Democracy in Canada?
posted by biffa at 11:23 AM on October 30, 2008
What hope now for Social Democracy in Canada?
posted by biffa at 11:23 AM on October 30, 2008
The Guardian is the newspaper of the Andrex puppy print eco friendly toilet paper generation so it appropriate that they also be the defender of Myspace Wordsworth as long as it doesn't add to the carbon footprint of their Spanish vacation.
posted by srboisvert at 11:31 AM on October 30, 2008
posted by srboisvert at 11:31 AM on October 30, 2008
srboisvert, I do not understand your above comment. However, it does seem grammatically, lexically and orthographically correct, unlike Ms. Hyde's comments. Might you be interested in a position at the Guardian's blog office?
posted by infinitewindow at 11:46 AM on October 30, 2008
posted by infinitewindow at 11:46 AM on October 30, 2008
Who is Julie Burchill sleeping with these days?
(Oh yes, I remember. It's Jesus.)
posted by Artw at 11:53 AM on October 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
(Oh yes, I remember. It's Jesus.)
posted by Artw at 11:53 AM on October 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
srboisvert's comment may be grammatically, lexically and orthographically correct, but it fails in one small area. It is factually incorrect. No Guardianista has ever contemplated, far less taken, a holiday in Spain. Tuscany is the place, darling. Tuscany.
posted by Nick Verstayne at 12:05 PM on October 30, 2008
posted by Nick Verstayne at 12:05 PM on October 30, 2008
This is not news. The news will be when Allen doesn't insult someone.
posted by Xere at 12:23 PM on October 30, 2008
posted by Xere at 12:23 PM on October 30, 2008
Just how smart are whips, anyway?
posted by adamdschneider at 12:44 PM on October 30, 2008
posted by adamdschneider at 12:44 PM on October 30, 2008
I am currently posting a comment to a post about a comment to a post about a press release.
Indeed. And a comment about a comment about a comment about a post about a press release may just make my mind explode.
Meta as all hell, but also as trivial as Arthur's Johnson.
posted by mrgrimm at 1:25 PM on October 30, 2008
Indeed. And a comment about a comment about a comment about a post about a press release may just make my mind explode.
Meta as all hell, but also as trivial as Arthur's Johnson.
posted by mrgrimm at 1:25 PM on October 30, 2008
Also i have it on good authority that Croatia is the new Tuscany.
posted by Artw at 1:32 PM on October 30, 2008
posted by Artw at 1:32 PM on October 30, 2008
My Johnson?
I was hoping you'd show up. :)
No, that was a ____. I don't have a word for it yet.
posted by mrgrimm at 1:42 PM on October 30, 2008
I was hoping you'd show up. :)
No, that was a ____. I don't have a word for it yet.
posted by mrgrimm at 1:42 PM on October 30, 2008
She's not a music blogger - she writes a satirical column on showbiz in the Guardian;s G2, and the political comment in the main paper.
She also writes a football blog in the sports section. Jack of all trades, and all that...
I'm three pages into the comments and siding with Marina so far. Allen and the PR dude are coming across as spectacularly humourless.
posted by afx237vi at 2:55 PM on October 30, 2008
She also writes a football blog in the sports section. Jack of all trades, and all that...
I'm three pages into the comments and siding with Marina so far. Allen and the PR dude are coming across as spectacularly humourless.
posted by afx237vi at 2:55 PM on October 30, 2008
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