Cold War vs. Modern Day U.S. Propaganda
December 11, 2010 9:09 AM Subscribe
Cold War vs. Modern Day U.S. Propaganda - from Russian Times
I don't disagree with (nearly) anything that was said, but the linked video was almost entirely opinions unsupported by facts. Ironically, it felt a lot like propaganda...
Also, apart from one screenshot of the New York Times and a tiny bit of CNN, the report almost entirely utilized Fox News as a substitute for "the US media."
posted by gern at 9:53 AM on December 11, 2010 [2 favorites]
Also, apart from one screenshot of the New York Times and a tiny bit of CNN, the report almost entirely utilized Fox News as a substitute for "the US media."
posted by gern at 9:53 AM on December 11, 2010 [2 favorites]
If I remember correctly, RT is the spiritual successor to Russian state media, which makes the article itself propaganda -- very meta.
posted by StrikeTheViol at 9:53 AM on December 11, 2010
posted by StrikeTheViol at 9:53 AM on December 11, 2010
It's true; quotes are filled with terrifying information, like opinions of experts, dissidents, or even people who aren't rich. Better to have your media exist entirely on inane questions that generate fear.
posted by notion at 9:55 AM on December 11, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by notion at 9:55 AM on December 11, 2010 [2 favorites]
illuminating
posted by philip-random at 11:02 AM on December 11, 2010
posted by philip-random at 11:02 AM on December 11, 2010
They're just bitter because all their best techniques have gone off patent.
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 11:27 AM on December 11, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 11:27 AM on December 11, 2010 [1 favorite]
So they show clips from MSNBC/CNBC and Fox news.... a roundup of American Media this does not make.
posted by msbutah at 11:55 AM on December 11, 2010
posted by msbutah at 11:55 AM on December 11, 2010
... a roundup of American Media this does not make.
I found it about as fair and balanced as most American Media I'm unfortunate enough to come in contact with.
posted by philip-random at 12:08 PM on December 11, 2010
I found it about as fair and balanced as most American Media I'm unfortunate enough to come in contact with.
posted by philip-random at 12:08 PM on December 11, 2010
Yeah, I'm sorry but I found this underwhelming.
posted by Defenestrator at 12:57 PM on December 11, 2010
posted by Defenestrator at 12:57 PM on December 11, 2010
What?
posted by The Lady is a designer at 2:39 PM on December 11, 2010
posted by The Lady is a designer at 2:39 PM on December 11, 2010
So they show clips from MSNBC/CNBC and Fox news.... a roundup of American Media this does not make.
I came across a pie chart of US Media market share from 2009 that put FOX at 44%, CNN at 22%,MSNBC at 15% and CNBC at 8%. Which admittedly is focusing on cable and internet news as media but I thought paper media was pretty small in the US now. (Am I right in calling it cable news? That seems like an old-fashioned name but I am not sure of a better one...)
Serious question, what IS American media to the majority of people living in the United States of America? There seems to be major conglomerates and then a bunch of smaller media sources on the fringes.
posted by saucysault at 4:13 PM on December 11, 2010
I came across a pie chart of US Media market share from 2009 that put FOX at 44%, CNN at 22%,MSNBC at 15% and CNBC at 8%. Which admittedly is focusing on cable and internet news as media but I thought paper media was pretty small in the US now. (Am I right in calling it cable news? That seems like an old-fashioned name but I am not sure of a better one...)
Serious question, what IS American media to the majority of people living in the United States of America? There seems to be major conglomerates and then a bunch of smaller media sources on the fringes.
posted by saucysault at 4:13 PM on December 11, 2010
An English Russia post on this would be so very much more interesting.
posted by KokuRyu at 8:57 PM on December 11, 2010
posted by KokuRyu at 8:57 PM on December 11, 2010
This is from "Russia Today", the Russian government's English language news service, not "Russian Times". The post should be changed to reflect this or deleted.
posted by volt4ire at 3:25 PM on December 12, 2010
posted by volt4ire at 3:25 PM on December 12, 2010
So are we.
posted by klue at 10:32 AM on December 11
Russian press freedom:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
posted by knoyers at 7:23 PM on December 12, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by klue at 10:32 AM on December 11
Russian press freedom:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
posted by knoyers at 7:23 PM on December 12, 2010 [1 favorite]
Sorry for the mislabeled source. I wasn't sure if "from folks who would know from propaganda" would be too snarky for a post (rather than a comment). Good to know I'm not too off base:)
posted by eviemath at 8:01 AM on December 13, 2010
posted by eviemath at 8:01 AM on December 13, 2010
Source aside however, what do folks think about Cold War influence on the framing of the U.S. War on Terror? Or is this not exactly news- or comment-worthy?
posted by eviemath at 9:19 AM on December 13, 2010
posted by eviemath at 9:19 AM on December 13, 2010
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