Perry: "I think we're getting all tangled up around an issue here about 'Can you work with Democrats or can you work with Republicans...' yeah, we can all do that, but the fact of the matter is we'd better have a plan in place that Americans can get their hands around, and that's the reason my flat tax is the only one of all the folks, these good folks on the stage, it balances the budget in 2020, it does the things to the regulatory climate that has to happen, and I will tell ya, it's three agencies of government when I get there that are gone: Commerce, Education, and the uh... uh, what's the third one there, let's see... [laughter] Come on..."
Paul: "You mean five? Make it five!"
Perry: "Oh, five? Okay. So, Commerce, Education, and uh, the uh... um... uh..."
Perry: "EPA! There you go. No..."
Moderator: "Seriously? Is the EPA the one you were talking about, or...?"
Perry: "No sir, no sir... We were talking about the, um... agencies of government -- the EPA needs to be rebuilt, no doubt about that --"
Moderator: "But you can't name the third one?"
Perry: "The third agency of government, I would, I would do away with the Education, uh, the uh..."
Perry: "Comm-Commerce [drops pen] and let's see... I can't. The third one, I can't, sorry. Oops."
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