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November 5, 2001 8:43 AM   Subscribe

Let the disappointment begin! Lucasfilm posted the teaser trailer to the highly anticipated Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones today.
posted by MegoSteve (56 comments total)

 
arghh... I need to D/L QT 5 and everytime I go to do it, the site goes down...

arghhh...
posted by da5id at 8:47 AM on November 5, 2001


Saw this when I went to the movies yesterday. BORING. One of the crappiest I've ever seen. While most trailers tend to give away too much of the story, or all the good parts, anyway, this one did absolutely nothing.
Vader sucking air, interspersed with landscape shots.
posted by Su at 8:50 AM on November 5, 2001


Saw this when I went to the movies yesterday. BORING. One of the crappiest I've ever seen. While most trailers tend to give away too much of the story, or all the good parts, anyway, this one did absolutely nothing.
Vader sucking air, interspersed with landscape shots.
posted by Su at 8:50 AM on November 5, 2001


I've never been asked to jump through so many hoops in order to watch a fucking ad. After 3 minutes of typing and attempting to download things only to be staring at a blank screen, I gave up in disgust. This is the straw that broke the camel's back. I think I'll sit the rest of the franchise out, thanks, and just sit at home gazing nostagically at my Hoth Ice Planet playset.
posted by vraxoin at 8:54 AM on November 5, 2001


And when you do go to download QT 5 Pro, you're asked to cough up $29.99 for it. Hmm.... do I really want to pay more than the ticket price of a movie in order to watch the trailer?
posted by markbos at 8:57 AM on November 5, 2001


I remember the good old days when people reviewed the actual movie and not the trailer.
posted by bondcliff at 8:57 AM on November 5, 2001


And when you do go to download QT 5 Pro, you're asked to cough up $29.99 for it. Hmm.... do I really want to pay more than the ticket price of a movie in order to watch the trailer?

QT Pro is only needed for the large version.
posted by ljromanoff at 8:58 AM on November 5, 2001


It's not a trailer, it's a teaser, totally different animal. Trailer will come later.

As for "Let the disappointment begin," it seems like so many people love to spend their time "not liking" stuff.

I have a friend whose list of actors he doesn't like and won't see their movies is longer than the list of people he does like.

"Star Wars bashing" was a great hobby around Episode I.

E.T. is getting re-released, are we going to bash that too?

What is happening to us? Why do we love to hate?

Don't worry, be happy.
posted by abosio at 8:58 AM on November 5, 2001


I'd hate to be George Lucas and have some of the most rabid fans on the planet. I guess that's what happens when a whole generation's identity is tied to 3 movies and the creator decides to make some more after cynicism sets in.

I liked the trailer. It's a teaser, and therefore doesn't show much. Of course, you could give everyone in the theatre $100 and they'd still have something to complain about.
posted by jragon at 8:59 AM on November 5, 2001


Bondcliff, you beat me to it. I was wondering when a trailer suddenly became a piece in itself. It's a very curious phenomenon, especially when I hear about Comic Book Guys paying full price at the theater to see a 45-second trailer - and then demanding their money back. Fuck you, Harry Knowles!

Abosio: I don't hate anything except uber-geek Harry Knowles and what he's spawned: this ultra-fanboy mentality.
posted by solistrato at 9:00 AM on November 5, 2001


abosio:

My bet (at least, it's the way I feel) is that people dislike the raping of memory and truth that comes with sequels and milking every good idea to its last drop.

For instance, I wasn't too miffed that Quasimodo didn't die at the end of Disney's version of Hunchback..I mean, what did I expect, it's Disney for crying out loud.

Then when they released (straight to video) a happy, carefree musical Hunchback of Notre Dame 2, where a beautiful woman sees Quasi's (obligatory cute nickname) inner beauty and falls in love with him, and they hold hands and dance and sing in the streets....

Well, I'm sure you see what I mean. THAT gets me upset.

And specifically, with George Lucas, I mean, he insists on iron-fisted control of his movies, and he makes bad decisions! He turns awesome movies into just consumer-pandering schlock. I mean, please...Jake Lloyd?
posted by taumeson at 9:04 AM on November 5, 2001


The trailer's been posted at Filepile if you want to see it. Look for it in the movie pile. You have to register to see it, and might have to wait while the file is overloaded but that's certainly not as onerous as downloading QT. For a movie that's still 6 months from being released, I didn't think the trailer was that bad. It's pretty much all I expected to see at this point. All that and not a single frame of Jar Jar.
posted by schmedeman at 9:04 AM on November 5, 2001


no offense, solis, but i think the ultra-fanboy mentality has existed for a long time. knowles merely embodies it in his public persona.
posted by moz at 9:05 AM on November 5, 2001


Yeah, when I have to download an application, I almost break into a sweat. (rolls eyes)
posted by jragon at 9:09 AM on November 5, 2001


I feel like I have some magical advantage over people my age. Besides flying.

I never saw Star Wars when I was little. Somehow I escaped it. So, watching it for the first time when you're 23, you really see what an awful movie it is. I mean, the special effects might have been good in the 70s and all, but otherwise...Kind of boring and sort of dumb action movies. However, they're perfect for kids, who are kind of boring and sort of dumb.

So adults watch it through a screen of nostaligia, and love it. Which is fine. I do the same thing. These new Star Wars movies aren't getting the advantage of nostalgia, and so they seem slow and childish.

But really, they're all slow and childish.
posted by Doug at 9:11 AM on November 5, 2001


The only interesting part of the trailer was visual confirmation that Boba Fett would be in it.
posted by rev- at 9:13 AM on November 5, 2001


indeed he will be rev, but that was his dad you were watching in the teaser...
posted by sawks at 9:15 AM on November 5, 2001


What is happening to us? Why do we love to hate? Don't worry, be happy.

Now I know why Pauly Shore's movie career lasted so long.
posted by MegoSteve at 9:20 AM on November 5, 2001


:P* to all of you bashers.
I liked Episode 1 and I liked the teaser.
Take things for what they are, not what you expect them to be, and you will lead a much happier and more fulfilled life.
posted by Dillenger69 at 9:26 AM on November 5, 2001


Yeah, when I have to download an application, I almost break into a sweat. (rolls eyes)

I think it's the $30 for QT Pro that people have a problem with, not that they have to download an app.
posted by ljromanoff at 9:28 AM on November 5, 2001


You don't need to pay $30 for quicktime 5, just the 'pro' version, so no-one should have any problems...
posted by twistedonion at 9:33 AM on November 5, 2001


You don't need to pay $30 for quicktime 5, just the 'pro' version, so no-one should have any problems...

If you want to watch the large version of the trailer you need QT Pro.
posted by ljromanoff at 9:35 AM on November 5, 2001


Okay, I saw the teaser when I saw "Monsters Inc" yesterday. The theatre was packed with babbling toddlers who fell completely silent when the screen went to black and the breathing started, and the effect garnered more than a few audible gasps from grownups in the crowd.

For thirty seconds I was five years old again and all giddy and shivering with glee. Ewan McGregor without the rat-tail! Boba Fett's Dad! A non-mannequin-seeming Anakin! Cool breathing noises! I hate that I am so emotionally enmeshed with the Star Wars franchise, because this movie will most likely disappoint and sadden me. Damn you, Lucas!

Do we know if Jar-Jar is going to make an appearance?
posted by kittyb at 9:37 AM on November 5, 2001


Oh, and I was gonna say... the Apple Quicktime trailer site did the same buy-Pro bait-and-switch thing with the largest Harry Potter trailer. I did track it down elsewhere in QT 4 format, so my bet is that there'll be a non-Pro big version out there by the end of the day from some resourceful Jedi.
posted by kittyb at 9:40 AM on November 5, 2001


Yeah, I find the Apple "let's make 'em pay $30 to see the super-big version" strategy a bit odious. But hey, if someone's actually going to pay for it, more power to Apple...

Moz: exactly. I know fanboys have been around since the Paleozoic, but Knowles just makes such a perfect embodiment that it's a perfect target for rage.
posted by solistrato at 9:40 AM on November 5, 2001


What Dillenger69 said.

I can't wait. I can't wait for LOTR either. I'm a bit disappointed that they edited cetain things out of ET, like the word terrorist and the guns on the policemen...
posted by fooljay at 9:43 AM on November 5, 2001


Phew! I see Jar-Jar Stinks. Look at the teaser frame by frame. His head's cut off, but he clearly appears behind Mace Windu (Samuel Jackson). Ugh.
posted by piskycritters at 9:49 AM on November 5, 2001


A faster download (without having to register) can be had at Apple's site.
posted by Sal Amander at 10:29 AM on November 5, 2001


Someone care to share their login/password? All I'm getting are time-outs.
posted by skallas at 10:41 AM on November 5, 2001


The only interesting part of the trailer was visual confirmation that Boba Fett would be in it.

Technically, as kittyb said above, it's Jango Fett, Boba Fett's father.

Phew! I see Jar-Jar Stinks.

Yeah, it's definitely Jar-Jar, and it looks like he's accompanied by Amidala, Obi-Wan, and the King of the Gungans (or some other big, blue-headed guy.)

Personally, aside from Episode I, I don't think I've ever seen another Star Wars film in its entirety. (And since they're not on DVD, and I don't own a television, I probably won't anytime soon.)
posted by Danelope at 10:42 AM on November 5, 2001


Very cool trailer (for those of us not jaded). The theater I was in for Monsters, Inc. got completely quiet and there was a huge round of applause and whoo-whooing after it came on. Star Wars = fun.
posted by owillis at 10:57 AM on November 5, 2001


Let the disappointment begin.

I don't know... heavy breathing, Natalie Portman... where's the disappointment?

Good to see that Sam Jackson is in there too... he gets almost as much screen time in this teaser as he did in Episode 1, so maybe that means he'll actually have a decent role now.
posted by spilon at 10:59 AM on November 5, 2001


I actually really enjoyed the trailer, and Episode I, while it wasn't the greatest thing I'd seen in 20 years, wasn't as bad as folks made it out to be either. It was a B-/C+ in my opinion.

But I never could get on the star wars site, and it took me forever to DL the preview from Filepile, so I posted a mirror that should be easier to see.
posted by emptyage at 11:00 AM on November 5, 2001


Can anyone make out who is Anakin duelling with at the end? Is Maul back? (in a clone form of course)

Not too happy that Jar Jar is back, but from what I gather there are people out there who like Jar Jar.
posted by riffola at 11:31 AM on November 5, 2001


Happily I saw the thing on a kids news programme today. Nope still more excited about Lord of the Rings.
posted by feelinglistless at 11:46 AM on November 5, 2001


The thing to remember about Jar Jar is that this is a movie for kids, and every kid I've talked to thinks Jar Jar is great.

And they (gasp) like the Ewoks, too.
posted by jragon at 12:12 PM on November 5, 2001


Fug it—I'm just going to skip this hellish download process and see Monsters, Inc. I love Pixar films, so this should be an added bonus.

Yep, Jar Jar's in the movie. This is what happens when you consult your children for character ideas.
posted by Down10 at 12:15 PM on November 5, 2001


riffola: pretty sure its Christopher Lee's character (Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus)

ewoks good!
jar jar not good
posted by sawks at 12:17 PM on November 5, 2001


God I hate that I know so much about all this stuff. I'm really not an obsessed fan I swear; I'm just observant!

Jar-Jar's back -and in an interview Lucas hints that he's got a strong afinity for the force (notice all the good luck he pulls out of terrible situations)

Jango Fetts the father of Boba Fett? I'd heard Boba was a clone of Jango.

Sam Jackson is back and supposedly got a killer fight sequence in this (rumors of Yoda fighting too)

Darth Maul isn't back - but there are new Siths out there, four or five more in the next two episodes I've heard.
posted by KnitWit at 12:18 PM on November 5, 2001


I backed out once I saw that I would need to buy QuickTime Pro to view the trailer. If it were a windows media player presentation requiring me to buy WMP, which is free anyway, you would hear people screaming blue murder about content control and format hegemony. Is there a way to view this without paying 3x the cost of the actual movie ticket?
posted by holycola at 12:37 PM on November 5, 2001


You can go to alt.binaries.starwars and download an mpg version of the teaser to avoid the QT crap.
posted by bargle at 12:40 PM on November 5, 2001


Two Canadian Journalists give their view...
posted by feelinglistless at 12:59 PM on November 5, 2001


Hm. Just watched the large version without paying thirty bucks. I installed QT5 a while ago (free d/l, not Pro) and was not asked to upgrade when I clicked on the large link.
posted by videodrome at 1:33 PM on November 5, 2001


They should call it "Attack on the Bandwidth" because I sure as hell can't access the file on either the Star Wars or Apple sites. And I have QuickTime 5. Can't they get this whole InterWeb thing fixed once and for all?
posted by skylar at 1:38 PM on November 5, 2001


Luke...let go of your morality...grab a QT5 Pro keygen, jump into Control Panel and upgrade that way...

Who said that? Damn you, Anti-Wan Kenobi!
posted by obiwanwasabi at 2:01 PM on November 5, 2001


Is there a way to view this without paying 3x the cost of the actual movie ticket?

Sure. Click the Small or Medium size. Only the Large size requires QuickTime 5 Pro.
posted by kindall at 2:05 PM on November 5, 2001


me.. want.. see.. movie..

Hell, this is the only reason I'm going to see the Harry Potter movie. I need to get out more.
posted by Mossy at 4:15 PM on November 5, 2001


me.. want.. see.. movie..

Hell, this is the only reason I'm going to see the Harry Potter movie. I need to get out more.
posted by Mossy at 4:15 PM on November 5, 2001


Star Wars Rocks,.. I can't wait!,.. Some of the above whiners who say it sucked are probably the same people who are eagerly anticipating the DVD release of Freddy Got Fingered No single piece of art, be it a movie or painting, etc... will appeal to everyone, Those individuals who become famous in their art appeal only to a mass of the population...Those individuals who Love To Hate Are most likely the most artistically and imaginatively challenged... I even know one guy who doesn't think Princess Leia was sexy in her Tatooine Slave Outfit!,... can you imagine?,... Oh, BTW His favorite artist is Billy Ray Cyrus... May The Force Be With You!
posted by danger at 9:46 PM on November 5, 2001


If you can't get it from the site (as I couldn't), do a search for "Star Wars breathing" in Morpheus or Kazaa or something.

I think it was good for what it was - a "teaser." Especially the battle scene, where you can't see who he's fighting at all. Tease tease.

<nerd>
there are new Siths out there, four or five more in the next two episodes I've heard.

well, um, I'd assume that Sidious, Anakin, and Palpatine would be three of those, and the guy that we see battling in the teaser would be 4. There can only be 2 sith at any given time.

</erd>

I'm not that much of a Star Wars fan... really. I just know way too much about it.
posted by mkn at 9:58 PM on November 5, 2001


Okay. In 1977, the reason why Star Wars was so successful was because it passed for family fare. Parents appreciated the positive message that the show presented, and kids liked the fact that the bots were funny, stuff occasionally blew up, and the girl dug shooting people and swinging over chasms. Oh, and she didn't mind getting a little messy in a trash compactor. Little boys dig that about women. Princess Leia was the Ultimate Tomboy. The kinda gal you could show off to Mom, and then go down to the ravine and dig out crawfish with her. Or tease snakes.

It's a kidshow. George Lucas has made no apologies for continuing on with that. If you bash the shows now, it means you grew up. Congrats to you. Yay. Some of us never grow up. On purpose. I had trouble appreciating Episode One at first cuz of all the bad rap it got when it came out. Then I saw it again on video and y'know what? It's not bad. I kinda felt ticked at myself for letting all these talking heads affect my judgment. As if I can't think for myself. The Star Wars movies are not gonna win any awards for best picture ever. So? Star Wars is one of the top five best pictures ever for me, and Episode One is just as fun to watch over and over again.

It's fun. It's silly. It's a space opera, just like the others. I think George Lucas is putting out what he promised. Nothing more, nor less. I think Episode Two's gonna be fun, too. Jar Jar Binks is, objectively speaking, a very bad move on Lucas' part. Jar Jar sucks. No way around that. Everything else is very okay. If you don't like it, good for you! If you do like it, come sit by me and we'll go tease snakes.
posted by ZachsMind at 10:00 PM on November 5, 2001


Hey, I was happy.

Evil... yum.
posted by fujikosmurf at 11:26 PM on November 5, 2001


E.T. is getting re-released, are we going to bash that too?

Yes.

From what I've read, Steven Spielberg has (among other things) digitally removed all the guns that the Gub'mint baddies were carrying and replaced them with walkie-talkies.

Let the revisionism begin.
posted by chuq at 11:29 AM on November 6, 2001


quit your bitchin peoples. just sit back, remember what it was like to be a five year old, and enjoy the ride.

i for one appreciate anything George Lucas brings to this world- my perspective isn't that the Star Wars franchise is a set of "science fiction films", but rather, " an extended documentary of a galaxy far far away".

If you regard it in this way you can't argue with it's content- it's an alternate reality. it happened. really. :)
posted by elphTeq at 1:32 PM on November 6, 2001


FYI, Jar Jar Binks IS in Episode II. He shows up in the second internet trailer anyway.

Look on any of the usual file sharing spots for "Star Wars Episode 2 Mystery Trailer"
posted by yupislyr at 10:47 PM on November 11, 2001


FYI, Jar Jar Binks IS in Episode II. He shows up in the second internet trailer anyway.

And in the first trailer as well.

He's in the background walking towards Samuel Jackson's character in the scene where Mr. Jackson is facing the camera looking agitated.
posted by ljromanoff at 7:55 AM on November 13, 2001


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