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TV REWIND! You're watching Supernatural, late season 3. (Welcome back! Spoiler alert!) Demon hunter Dean Winchester has sold his soul to a demon to resurrect his brother Sam, a deal that Sam is determined to break before Dean's payment is due.
"A hunt for a dragon in New York City ends with some unexpected changes for Sam and Dean. With the clock ticking down on Dean's deal, can the brothers pull together to save the city?"
You're now watching The Other Side, a 25-minute Supernatural fan film created as a volunteer labor of fan love. Written by novelist Naomi Novik, The Other Side is the first episode in a series exploring how fannish tropes, a tricksy dragon, gender issues, and a teeny tiny film budget could have sent Sam and Dean's story in a very different direction.

Feminism and gender issues are frequent topics of discussion in Supernatural fandom. In 2007 the influential fanvid "Women's Work" sparked intense critical discussion through examining Supernatural's depiction of women and gender.

The Other Side writer Naomi Novik is an active fan writer / vidder and advocate when she's not writing excellent novels about Napoleonic Era dragons, AKA the Temeraire series. Novik helped found the Organization for Transformative Works, a nonprofit organization "established by fans to serve the interests of fans by providing access to and preserving the history of fanworks and fan culture."

(While Novik prefers not to publicly pair her real name and fannish identity in a google-able way, her other fanworks are readily available through fannish forums and/or by dropping me a PM.)
posted by nicebookrack (65 comments total) 30 users marked this as a favorite

 
I am so fascinated by the para/fan texts of supernatural, that i don't want to watch an episode...(it might be ruined)
posted by PinkMoose at 7:37 PM on June 12, 2013


I...have literally just finished watching Season 3 of Supernatural like an hour ago.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
posted by The Whelk at 7:55 PM on June 12, 2013 [3 favorites]


I'm going to watch this. But if "gender issues" is code for "Dean becomes a woman and they have sex" I will be disappointed. And all my suspicions about fanfiction will be confirmed.
posted by squinty at 7:55 PM on June 12, 2013 [6 favorites]


The Whelk but your head is so comfy and filled with fine booze
posted by nicebookrack at 7:57 PM on June 12, 2013 [5 favorites]


Cool, but was Ms Novik at that fan convention that was filmed for the episode where the real Sam & Dean showed up?
posted by sammyo at 8:00 PM on June 12, 2013


Women's Work is pretty fascinating and disturbing. It's clearly had an impact on the show, too.

Can't wait to watch this new episode! We thought the season was over.
posted by anotherpanacea at 8:01 PM on June 12, 2013


Sam: Can you stop touching me?
Becky: [pause] No.

I'll watch this with interest when it . . . eventually . . . finishes loading, especially since I just re-re-re-saw "No Exit" today on TNT, and those Jo and Ellen episodes always get me thinking about this stuff. (But yeah, if this flick goes all Dean/Cas or Deanette/Sam, I'll stomp out of The Whelk's head in a huff.)
posted by FelliniBlank at 8:05 PM on June 12, 2013 [1 favorite]


And don't be surprised if in a future episode you notice the guys doing research on their laptop and get a glance of the screen and there's a certain shade of blue with white letters. Letters from the depths of heaven.
posted by sammyo at 8:05 PM on June 12, 2013 [1 favorite]


BRING BACK ASH.

Seriously, Ash was the best dude.
posted by Pope Guilty at 8:13 PM on June 12, 2013 [4 favorites]


From the website:
"Loading time killing you? See the film in parts or download it for iPod/iPhone"
posted by nicebookrack at 8:13 PM on June 12, 2013


Supernatural is one of the very few TV shows that I've gotten absolutely hooked on. I can't wait to watch this with my wife, who was the Supernatural pusher who got me hooked.
posted by double block and bleed at 8:20 PM on June 12, 2013 [1 favorite]


I know color balancing is way over fanish film efforts but why do they use the cheapest piece of crap microphone, just totally distracting.
posted by sammyo at 8:39 PM on June 12, 2013 [1 favorite]


I'm still early in to Season four so I'll be dropping out as to not get spoilered, but so far the best thing about Suernatural is the production design, the route66/blue collar/vintage/country rock Americana vibe, they never walk into a shitty modern gas station, it's always some gloriously tacky, artfully designed, fussily put together version of a shitty gas station. a total fantasy of roadside America, it's all gloriously kitschy buzzing neon hotel rooms, never a blandly beige Hampton Inn Suite.
posted by The Whelk at 8:46 PM on June 12, 2013 [15 favorites]


Hey, I liked it! Interesting twist on "Dude, you like full-on had a girl inside you for like a whole week. That's pretty naughty." It'll be fun to see where future episodes go, if they go.
posted by FelliniBlank at 8:47 PM on June 12, 2013


a total fantasy of roadside America, it's all gloriously kitschy buzzing neon hotel rooms, never a blandly beige Hampton Inn Suite.

Oh yeah, it's reminiscent of the American motel tour from Lolita, and I love the whatever-they-do-to-get-that-color-palette of the whole show. I wish I could be The Whelk (for so many reasons, but in this case because he's) about to take in the glorious wonders of Seasons 4 and 5 for the first time. I recommend watching both seasons in one weekend, to enjoy the Sergio Leone-like epic sweep, only creepy.
posted by FelliniBlank at 8:53 PM on June 12, 2013


they never walk into a shitty modern gas station, it's always some gloriously tacky, artfully designed, fussily put together version of a shitty gas station. a total fantasy of roadside America, it's all gloriously kitschy buzzing neon hotel rooms, never a blandly beige Hampton Inn Suite.

So so so true, Whelk. Nicely put.

(Altho I admit I'm a little gobsmacked that you're only now getting into Supernatural . . . .)
posted by soundguy99 at 8:53 PM on June 12, 2013


I kinda petered out around Season 4. Is it any good from there on?
posted by Mister Moofoo at 8:55 PM on June 12, 2013



(Altho I admit I'm a little gobsmacked that you're only now getting into Supernatural . . . .)

I was always kinda aware of it but I saw the first half of the first season back when it premiered and went "meh" and never bothered but then we got Netflix Streaming for the Arrested Development season and OH LOOK 8 WHOLE SEASONS LET'S TRY THIS THING SO I FINALLY GET JOKES ON TUMBLR.
posted by The Whelk at 9:00 PM on June 12, 2013


I was always kinda aware of it but I saw the first half of the first season back when it premiered and went "meh" and never bothered but then we got Netflix Streaming

Ha, same here. The first few episodes (and Padalecki's history as Gilmore Girl Boy) made me think it was going to be Scully and Mulder Visit Dawson's Creek, and it was only after seeing some of the Season 4 stuff on TNT last year that I streamed the entire mother.
posted by FelliniBlank at 9:05 PM on June 12, 2013


They keep mentioning X-files, but the series it most reminds me of in terms of tone, pacing, and direction is Angel, which ...makes sense
posted by The Whelk at 9:08 PM on June 12, 2013 [3 favorites]


Confession: this past SPN season has been the first I watched mostly all the way through; everything else I learned from random episodes + Livejournal meta + fandom_wank + epic fanfic + fanvids + Tumblr memes + Misha Collins' Twitter. I beat him on Words With Friends once! MISHAAA WHY WON'T YOU ACCEPT MY GAME INVITATIONS ANYMORE

anyway after holding off in fear that actually watching would ruin the SPNfic for me, I have now finally seen, and liked! and yeah to the Gender And Race Issues Like Whoa! but oh well, that is why I have fandom. And this season had Benny the vampire and the ongoing saga of Dean's epically intense homoromantic b/romances with every guy he's ever shed blood with. Dean+Manpain=OTP4EVA
posted by nicebookrack at 9:15 PM on June 12, 2013 [4 favorites]


They keep mentioning X-files, but the series it most reminds me of in terms of tone, pacing, and direction is Angel, which ...makes sense

Ben Edlund has a goddamned incredible knack for balancing horror and comedy and getting the most out of both without sacrificing either. Above and beyond his work on superhero comedies (The Tick, Dr Horrible, The Venture Brothers), that's his greatest skill.
posted by Pope Guilty at 9:20 PM on June 12, 2013 [3 favorites]


(having seen the first ten minutes of actual video, yeah it's good, but I can forgive bad lighting and blocking more if I can hear the actors. I know sound is more expensive and trickier than a lot of things but if you're a low budget production you should ...work around that a little more with more interior scenes and the like. Seriously, sound, even more than lighting or camera work, is what really divides into the "professional seeming" camp.)
posted by The Whelk at 9:34 PM on June 12, 2013


(although I do like that they've mimic'ed the show's beats and pacing, the length of scenes and the type of B-roll used. Just..so many echo-y rooms!)
posted by The Whelk at 9:43 PM on June 12, 2013


"I kinda petered out around Season 4. Is it any good from there on?"

You petered out as season 4? But... those were the glory days! If that couldn't keep you watching, I don't know if you'll be too into the stuff that comes later.

Supernatural almost never sucks. It's a remarkable show, that way. Most shows, even great shows, have plenty of just plain bad episodes, and Supernatural has very few. But it went from being a good show to a super awesome show to... well, the last few seasons have been good, but at this point the show's just gotten overripe. Certainly not rotten, but way past its expiry date. As much as we never wanted Buffy and other classic genre series to end, Supernatural shows that even a great show can get old. (That being said, I'm still delighted when the show gets renewed every season, and I'll bawl like a newborn babe when it's over.)

Looking forward to seeing the video. I'm just praying Sam and Dean don't end up boning. The slash fans can get as crazy as they like with Dean and Cas or Dean and Bobby or whatever the hell, but Wincest is just a big bucket of ew.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 9:44 PM on June 12, 2013 [4 favorites]


Well, I'm a recent convert myself, but I'm kinda an Old, with a bit of a tendency to be That Guy (you know, the one who Doesn't Watch T.V.) I guess I just figured all you Young Hip Tumblr Kids would've been watching it from the beginning.

I kinda petered out around Season 4. Is it any good from there on?

I dunno - what did you consider "good" about it? Honest question, 'cause I think one of the strengths of the show is that you can view it through a variety of lenses or from a variety of perspectives and like (or not like) different elements of the show.

(Trying not to SPOILER it too hard - after Season 4 Castiel becomes a regular character, which IMO is a Good Thing, and in Season 5 a new Bad Guy shows up, who is fantastic and also becomes a regular.)
posted by soundguy99 at 9:45 PM on June 12, 2013 [1 favorite]


and Supernatural has very few.

Yeah I remarked to my SO after a recent binge something to effect of "There are episodes that are predictable and rote, but they're not boring and they hit all the beats."

I mean, so far. I'm at the half-way point.
posted by The Whelk at 9:46 PM on June 12, 2013 [1 favorite]


I petered out after the fourth season too - the mythology seemed to be spiraling out of control. They don't seem to have learned the lesson of Uncle Miltie: just take out enough to win. But having dragged out the big bad, they're doubly stuck. The monsters of the week pale in comparison, and if they win there's no where to escalate to; show over.
posted by wotsac at 10:11 PM on June 12, 2013


Well, "petered out" isn't really ....

"Haven't seen anything since" would be more accurate. I only started watching because a friend of mine was obsessed, and dumped three seasons of DVDs in my lap. I watched Season 4 at her house on like iTunes or something, and didn't see anything after. She stopped watching for overly-nitpicky reasons I can't recall, I didn't have internet access at home at the time, and so I never really pursued it on my own.

I enjoyed what I saw, even though the show pretty consistently set up ideas I thought would go one way, only to go a much less interesting (but still good) way, instead. That's more my fault than the show's, for having really odd expectations of movies and tv.

It's on Netflix streaming, I think. Maybe I'll dive back in.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 10:11 PM on June 12, 2013


Well the rather large number of times they have saved the world has become just the tiniest bit repetitive, but it's always entertaining. And they do have fun being about as meta as can be. I happened to see first the episode where they jumped into the alternate universe where they were actors in a series called, take a beat... yadda. Seemed amusing, but when I worked my way through streaming in sequence, when I got to that episode again, all the threads it pulled together was just a whole lot of fun. But why can't they resurrect... ah spoiler, never-mind.
posted by sammyo at 10:15 PM on June 12, 2013


The only one I remember actively disliking was the one where the trickster guy turns Sam into a freaking car. I don't even remember what all else happened, just that it was massively self-indulgent and unfunny and I wanted the hurting to stop.

Generally the show mixes funny and scary very well indeed. Sometimes I do miss the days when it was a monster of the week show, and you tuned in to see what urban legend they'd take on this time. Don't get me wrong, the mythology stuff has been great, and took the show from good to great... But it was also fun when the show was just two brothers driving around and slaying the monsters from the stories kids tell each other at summer camp.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 10:15 PM on June 12, 2013


Yeah, Ursula, I sort of wished that the whole angels-and-demons thing wasn't the direction the show went, even though it was headed there from the beginning.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 10:19 PM on June 12, 2013


Good god, that was worse than the REAL Supernatural. I didn't know that was possible...
posted by Lt. Bunny Wigglesworth at 10:27 PM on June 12, 2013


I love Supernatural. I love two dudes hunting demons in a classic car while listening to classic rock. I love Ben Edlund's metahumor. but knowing what I do about Supernatural fandom there's no way I'll expose myself to anything involved with it
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 10:36 PM on June 12, 2013 [1 favorite]


Feminism and gender issues are frequent topics of discussion in Supernatural fandom.

They kill off every female character. my sister says this is so the fans won't have any competition
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 10:36 PM on June 12, 2013


oh they had a cool female character for half an episode. they named her 'Amy Pond' so she didn't get her own identity
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 10:38 PM on June 12, 2013


"They kill off every female character. "

They kill of everybody, pretty much. Seriously, most of the recurring male characters have died just as horribly as the women. Even Castiel's died a few times... he just got to come back. (And Felicia Day is still alive.)

I'm amazed they didn't bring back the Ghost Facers. They kind of seemed like Supernatural's Lone Gunmen, but then they just went away. (Although apparently they had their own web series, with a Castiel episode. Why was I not told?!)
posted by Ursula Hitler at 10:50 PM on June 12, 2013 [2 favorites]


The Ghost Facers rule and their found footage episode was excellent. I stopped watching after a couple of episodes of season 7- I'm told that the show gets good again just after I stopped.
posted by Pope Guilty at 12:57 AM on June 13, 2013


Does this involve the Pizza Man?

I've missed most of this series, but I do like Castiel.
posted by homunculus at 1:24 AM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


I used to watch Supernatural, but all the evil and dead women started getting to me.

I was able to go "Yes, this is highly problematic, but I still enjoy elements of it." But then I got towards the middle of Season 5 (in the middle of "Abandon All Hope..."), and said "No, no, I can't deal with this any more," and took the DVD out.

Now I just know what's going on vaguely via Tumblr. And have fond memories of Seasons 1 & 2.

(Plus, John Winchester. Rawr.)
posted by Katemonkey at 1:46 AM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


I couldn't care less about Supernatural, but I hope Naomi's foray into screenwriting means we're one step closer to that Peter Jackston-directed Temeraire movie we've been getting teased about for the last five years.
posted by fight or flight at 2:29 AM on June 13, 2013 [2 favorites]


Good god, that was worse than the REAL Supernatural. I didn't know that was possible...
Hi! I'm not really into the show either, but there's nothing that says either of us has to drop in to the thread just to let other people know we don't like the thing they like. It's actually pretty rude and pointless!

Hope this helps.
posted by kavasa at 3:56 AM on June 13, 2013 [8 favorites]


The monsters of the week pale in comparison, and if they win there's no where to escalate to; show over.

Mr.Corb thought the show had ended fourth season - he also thought there was nowhere the show could go after that and it was a perfect ending. When I watched netflix and got to season 5, however, he was really excited and totally hooked. So maybe give it a chance?
posted by corb at 4:26 AM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


Supernatural: Another show I love despite all its flaws.

I think I have said this before: seasons 1 & 2 are total MoTW, with flashes of the mythology that fleshes itself out better over time. Somewhere after season 5, things start to get a little unwieldy in terms of "okay, now what do we do? how do we keep upping the ante without too becoming ridiculous?" (which, it's okay, guys, we sort of love this show for the ridiculous). There is more--too much--Winchester-emoting, and less plot-driving.

And yet I never ever stop watching. Even when it's bad, it's still pretty good. As someone mentioned upthread, even the most rote of episodes still hits all the beats.

I, for one, love the hell out of this show. But I'm with CiS, I stay far far away from the SPN fandom. Those people are scary.
posted by Kitteh at 4:34 AM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


Yes, everyone please continue dismissing all the people in Supernatural fandom as scary creeps; this is a completely original and unproblematic viewpoint that has never been put forth before, and none of those scary fans are reading or posting or participating in this thread or on this site, since they are not like us.

(I'm being sarcastic.)
posted by nicebookrack at 4:59 AM on June 13, 2013 [4 favorites]


SPN's early years were pretty awesome (though as mentioned also hugely problematic) but I haven't really watched since season 5. Based on reviews from folks I know who still watch I haven't really missed much.

Also, SPN fans are nice for the most part, I'm sure, but then you get the tinhats and those who literally pounce on Jensen at conventions.

(If you read f_w long enough, every fandom starts seeming scary.)
posted by kmz at 5:34 AM on June 13, 2013 [2 favorites]


I must admit I can't stop looking at Ackles/Padalecki gifs of their convention appearances. How adorbs are they, right?

I would still recommend watching after season 5, just be prepared for slow/silly season arcs, poorly resolved season finales. Ben Edlund episodes are still a delight.
posted by Kitteh at 5:39 AM on June 13, 2013


Finally watched the fan film, and it was adorable... although while the actors did a good job of playing LadyDean and LadySam (LadyDean in particular was spot-on) the characters were a little wobbly. (SPOILERS AHEAD:) I can imagine Sam accepting life as a woman without crabbing about it too much, but Dean? He's a very macho little man, and I can see him making a crack about how he'd rather go to hell than have PMS.

And the people complaining about the sound ain't kidding. There were times when I literally had trouble hearing what they were saying.

But again: adorable. Sam and Dean are both so butch that seeing them as cute women is really fun, and it makes me wonder why they haven't done a girlification episode on the real show yet. I'm sure they must have discussed it. The show's been on so long, they must have discussed EVERY idea by now.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 6:15 AM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


More links!

The Daily Dot article discussing The Other Side and Supernatural's gender dynamics

The film's Tumblr - with GIFs!

The Other Side director discusses casting and creating a microbudget film
posted by nicebookrack at 6:32 AM on June 13, 2013


(SPOILERS AHEAD:) I can imagine Sam accepting life as a woman without crabbing about it too much, but Dean? He's a very macho little man, and I can see him making a crack about how he'd rather go to hell than have PMS.

I make the assumption that Dean is delaying his freakout in his vein of "I got shot/stabbed/cursed, shrug it off" with a side of jumping OF COURSE on the shot at hot! lesbian! sex! with lesbians! Possibly the sex would cause the freakout by feeling so different.

Then you could do a lot of interesting gender things with this alternate season 4: would Sam and Dean play it as "Welp, we're women now! Moving on!"? or would they work it out as trans men in femme-presenting bodies? The Other Side veers toward a little of both. The film creators have opened it up to remixing/fanfic, so expect fandom to take the To Be Continued ball and run with it.

I am amused by the many loving closeup shots of LadyDean's (adorable) face, with his perfectly-applied mascara and foundation. I choose to believe this is 50% dragon magic, 50% Dean's long successful conman career involving cosmetics.
posted by nicebookrack at 6:57 AM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


This was pretty much the highlight of Supernatural for me (from S4 Ep6, but no spoilers, just Jensen being hilariously awesome).

Also, yes please to a Temeraire movie directed by Peter Jackson. That would just be amazing. The Temeraire books were so much fun.
posted by ashirys at 6:58 AM on June 13, 2013


The gag reels for Supernatural are COMEDY GOLD. I feel I can say with complete certainty is that the secret to the show's success is that the leads complement each other perfectly. Their chemistry is incredibly believable as brothers. There is nothing forced about their interaction.
posted by Kitteh at 7:04 AM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


Reasons why Seasons 4-5 rock (possible vague spoilers):
--the hilarious overall interpretation of Judeo-Christian mythology
--the characterization of all the angels (especially Castiel's, er, neuroatypical qualities)
--Chuck
--all the meta/fandom elements
--super-sharp dialogue, including nearly everything Dean says to Zachariah
--the sheer beauty of the Season 5 finale, which, if it had turned out to be the series finale as originally envisioned, might have been the best one anywhere ever
posted by FelliniBlank at 8:20 AM on June 13, 2013 [2 favorites]


Argh, I know, right? The Kripkekeeper had everything more or less planned to end at season 5 and it was so good it would have been perfect.

I mean, I'm not complaining because I have the comforting crutch of the show to look forward to the rest of year, but still.
posted by Kitteh at 8:39 AM on June 13, 2013


"they know we're brothers, right?"

"I don't think they care."
posted by Pope Guilty at 8:45 AM on June 13, 2013 [2 favorites]



They kill of everybody, pretty much. Seriously, most of the recurring male characters have died just as horribly as the women. Even Castiel's died a few times... he just got to come back. (And Felicia Day is still alive.)


Everyone dies, baby, that's a fact but most of them come back. Except the women.
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 4:04 PM on June 13, 2013


I jumped into it onto Season 5, and it just hit my sweet spot - old shit, Neil Gaiman ripoffs, badass monster hunting, etc.

Yes, everyone please continue dismissing all the people in Supernatural fandom as scary creeps; this is a completely original and unproblematic viewpoint that has never been put forth before, and none of those scary fans are reading or posting or participating in this thread or on this site, since they are not like us.

(I'm being sarcastic.)


Sorry, but there's a bit difference between saying "I'm a fan of the show" or even "I'm a fan of the show because there are two hot guys in it and I like to imagine them making out" and the SPN fandom. We can aknowledge that a fandom that hates the lead actors wives and writes fanfic of them with bees in their asses and 'knotting' and all sorts of other things is, at the very least, a bit off.

Besides, the show itself makes fun of those fans.
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 4:07 PM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


None of your described reasons for moral outrage is unique to SPN fandom or even fandom in general, CiS. And Supernatural making fun of its fans is one of my many problems with the show; it's really gross to assume that this automatically makes these people fair game for derision.

Aside from outright criminal behavior and mentally ill people (neither of which are unique to fandom, again), a whole lotta "[insert fandom name here] Fandom Is Eww!" commentary I hear over & over & over sounds a lot like "groups of women are having sexual fantasies! and being kinky! with each other! in public! GASP," so if that's not what's going on here then I apologize. But if that is what's going on here (again) then I'm over it and more interested in watching Tumblr GIFs.
posted by nicebookrack at 5:02 PM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]



Aside from outright criminal behavior and mentally ill people (neither of which are unique to fandom, again), a whole lotta "[insert fandom name here] Fandom Is Eww!" commentary I hear over & over & over sounds a lot like "groups of women are having sexual fantasies! and being kinky! with each other! in public! GASP," so if that's not what's going on here then I apologize. But if that is what's going on here (again) then I'm over it and more interested in watching Tumblr GIFs.


The sort of fantasies SPN fans - seriously, assmilke and bees in asses and inventing a whole new species of 'Alphas' that are part wolf to fantasize about - are pretty gross.

besides, as Sam or Dean says, 'don't they know we're brothers?'
posted by Charlemagne In Sweatpants at 5:05 PM on June 13, 2013


Your Kink Is Not My Kink dude

and I'm done
posted by nicebookrack at 5:13 PM on June 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


Okay I have just seen Monster Movie and if this is the kind of self indulgent meta fictional pastiche they want to do, then that's totally fine.
posted by The Whelk at 9:30 PM on June 13, 2013 [3 favorites]


(it just occurred to me that I'll be going on a really long road trip through rural America right after having shotgunned all of season four.)

(I guess I have to get pie)
posted by The Whelk at 2:25 PM on June 15, 2013 [1 favorite]


(Actually..wait how could I make the trip mire Supernatyrally...take in a few mystery spots)
posted by The Whelk at 12:11 PM on June 16, 2013


The only one I remember actively disliking was the one where the trickster guy turns Sam into a freaking car. I don't even remember what all else happened, just that it was massively self-indulgent and unfunny and I wanted the hurting to stop.

Having literally just seen this episode .. You didn't see Stay Tuned? of which that episode was a riff on, and being turned into a car was a riff on Knight Rider?

I mean I've got just enough whippets and whiskey drinks to make a case for Supernatural season five to be a genre show about genre shows.
posted by The Whelk at 9:29 PM on June 22, 2013


Also.
posted by The Whelk at 9:35 PM on June 22, 2013


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