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Where do the Oompa Loompas fit into all this?
posted by Decani at 9:59 PM on August 8 [1 favorite]


I'm okay with it as long as image macros aren't the final incarnation of internet discussions.
posted by koeselitz at 9:59 PM on August 8 [6 favorites]


An interesting idea this Whonka, but I don't think it as likely as "The Great Gatsby is an Alternate Timeline Where Jack Survived Titanic".
posted by Celsius1414 at 10:10 PM on August 8 [2 favorites]


Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator is in many ways a lot stranger than the first book; a lot scarier too. That first passage in which the Vermicious Knids are revealed -- S C R A M -- scared the willies out of me as a kid.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 10:11 PM on August 8 [9 favorites]


So the elevator at the end of the movie was actually a tardis?

Also, TVTropes: Everyone is a Timelord.
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 10:13 PM on August 8 [4 favorites]


Where do the Oompa Loompas fit into all this?

Maybe that's what you get when you do some kind of statistical analysis on the Daleks' horribly mutated DNA to figure out how to fix the errors, and then use specially engineered retroviruses to actually rewrite their genomes?
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 10:48 PM on August 8 [7 favorites]


But their legs would still be too short to get up stairs.
posted by Greg_Ace at 10:50 PM on August 8 [3 favorites]


But their legs would still be too short to get up stairs.

Ha! I still remember the sense of abject horror when I first saw Remembrance of the Daleks.
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 11:00 PM on August 8 [1 favorite]


Correction: Gene Wilder. Previously, SLYT
posted by CrystalDave at 11:14 PM on August 8


Yes, this makes perfect sense! Admittedly I've only watched New Who, not Old, but I was a Roald Dahl megafan as a kid so I feel my opinion on this carries some weight.
posted by daisyk at 2:13 AM on August 9


This just makes me really sad that there was never a doctor who series with Gene Wilder in the 70s or 80s.
posted by emptythought at 3:39 AM on August 9 [3 favorites]


It's obvious that Mary Poppins is Doctor Who, and the TARDIS has decided to look like an umbrella.
posted by dng at 4:38 AM on August 9 [7 favorites]


dng: Headcanon accepted! Would the TARDIS be the umbrella, though, or her carpet bag? I guess it could probably appear to split into two parts.
posted by daisyk at 5:53 AM on August 9 [2 favorites]


My two favorite actors are both Genes (Hackman/Wilder). Coincidence or SPACE CONSPIRACY?
posted by echocollate at 7:18 AM on August 9


Okay, look, I am not trolling here. I've been a fan of Doctor Who since the early 80s.

Can we PLEASE stop insisting that everything that doesn't currently have Doctor Who in it now have Doctor Who? It's become embarrassing to be a DW fan because those fans are some of the most insufferable ones around. (It also hasn't helped to have a showrunner who seems determined to coddle the most insufferable portion of that insufferable group.)

Maybe I'm just jealous because in the heyday of my DW fandom it was the show no one had heard of, and if they had, it was because of its paper-mache monsters and wobbly sets. But I think it's mainly that I don't want my appreciation for DW to be smothered to death as was my Star Wars love.
posted by Legomancer at 7:20 AM on August 9 [7 favorites]


I don't want my appreciation for DW to be smothered to death as was my Star Wars love.

Ironic, that, at least for me. I too have loved very culturally obscure things a great deal, only to have them explode in popularity decades later, and continue to have very mixed feelings about it. My whole adolescence was a study in loving things that were totally nerdy, certainly didn't help me get any dates, and made me just seem weird to most of my family and many of my friends (except the ones who were into it, we just fed each others' passions in our weirdo, nerdy bubbles).

Now, nearly all of that stuff is completely mainstream and even hip and cool. I mean, if I had worn my Watchmen or Batman or Tick or whatever t-shirt to high school in the late 80s, it would have been social suicide. For most of the past decade, it would just make you normal and clued in to what's hip or mainstream. (Now it seems you're not judged for wearing a fan shirt, but rather what fandom it's for.) And Comic-Con blowing up to a mega-event? What is this sorcery, and why are all you johnny-come-latelys ruining my beloved nerdery??

OTOH, so much more good content being produced, so I mostly only squee and enjoy the product itself and--as I had to do a few decades ago--stop worrying about what other people think. Before it was disdain, now it's overwhelming enthusiasm, but the general lesson remains: love what you love, don't worry about other people's reactions to it.

Also, on topic: I love this fan theory. I love great fan theories, especially when they tweak the whole reality of a thing (with this one being my favorite).
posted by LooseFilter at 8:50 AM on August 9 [3 favorites]


I don't want my appreciation for DW to be smothered to death as was my Star Wars love.

As long as there is money to be made, the franchise will go on. There's a reason it's called intellectual property, and why Disney paid billions for it.

Speaking of which, in addition to a standalone Boba Fett movie, they're rebooting Indiana Jones!
posted by Ndwright at 8:52 AM on August 9


they're rebooting Indiana Jones

Anything to wash the foul taste of the fourth, bullshit installment in the franchise out of my mouth. I have no problem with reboots, reinventions, extensions, etc.--I grew up a sci-fi/comics nerd, so love universes with tons of stories to tell about characters you love. Indiana Jones is a great, iconic movie character, with so many more fantastic stories that can be invented for him; it would be a shame to tell only the stories that Harrison Ford is personally young enough to act in.*


*as long as the new Indy is not Shia Leboeuauf. Not the worst decision in that terrible movie, but it ranks.
posted by LooseFilter at 8:57 AM on August 9


they're rebooting Indiana Jones

They are also rebooting Mad Max and the Crow, two franchises I didn't believe possible or necessary to recreate. Now that Steve Norrington is out as director for the Crow, I'm back to being convinced that it's a giant mistake, but the trailer for Mad Max has me feeling cautiously optimistic that it is possible to take a less than mainstream feature, and do it justice.

Indy was never a small property, and I don't think it's possible that the giant piece of shit that was 4 was enough to really hurt the franchise, and with my newfound-ish hopes that it can be done right, I've come to accept that they may also have to consider putting someone new into the role, thought it pains me to say so, because Ford was absolutely perfect - but in my twenty years ago, pre-Crystal Skull dreams, I had always hopped they'd get someone like Jet-Li to come in and play Short-Round as a way of keeping the series going. Now I agree with you that I don't care who it is as long as it isn't Laboeuf.

(For the way to really kill a good franchise, look at Highlander, which by itself was an almost perfect little film. Awesome bad guy, neat hand-wavey solutiotion to why they are immortal [BECAUSE THEY JUST FUCKING ARE...'] and then keep churning out crap branded with the same name until you've alienated your whole audience. Highlander 2, for example, was so poorly written, it couldn't keep canon with a movie that hardly explained anything.)
posted by quin at 10:42 AM on August 9


Can we PLEASE stop insisting that everything that doesn't currently have Doctor Who in it now have Doctor Who? It's become embarrassing to be a DW fan because those fans are some of the most insufferable ones around. (It also hasn't helped to have a showrunner who seems determined to coddle the most insufferable portion of that insufferable group.)

It's because the fanbase has been conquered numbers wise by the most terrible kind of fan of anything: 14 year old girls on tumblr.

Seriously, i swear when i was that age and everyone used livejournal and shit none of the fans were this terrible. And yea, moffat does just take things and ruin them. Look at sherlock.

And i don't think it's a coincidence that there's a lot of combo whovian-sherlock fans(and at that tumblrcon, the supernatural ones as well, speaking of terrible stupid fanbases).

I'm not at all one of those "if you haven't seen any of the old series' you're not a real fan" people, but i think the show just has a lot of shitty embarrassing fans now. And yea, they constantly fanwank over shit like this and it's just oh god stop go away.
posted by emptythought at 11:01 AM on August 9


If that were the case, Veruca Salt would be his friend, not Charlie.
posted by Renoroc at 12:01 PM on August 9


Well that's a hell of a lot better than the Christmas episode.
posted by the_royal_we at 12:07 PM on August 9


Where do the Oompa Loompas fit into all this?

Well, you take an Ood, see, and then you get it properly drunk, and feeling really good about itself, and you introduce him to a nice Apalapucian girl with low self-esteem, away from home, feeling a bit vulnerable. And with a bit of luck you get a litter of Oodpa Lapucians.

This completes step one of seven.
posted by obiwanwasabi at 1:34 AM on August 10 [2 favorites]


I am so tired of the phrase "this person just totally changed the way we look at [insert pop culture text here]" and its ilk. It's part of the trend in internet rhetoric that every single fucking thing posted is MIND BLOWING THE BEST EVAR YOU CAN NEVER UNSEE THIS. This photo of a little white girl giving an old black man a glass of lemonade will restore your faith in humanity! This video of a puppy playing with a bird will change the way you look at your dog! 17 mind-blowing facts about cheese! Jesus fucking Christ, can't things just be experiences any more without being promoted as world-changing? And the ephemeral nature of all this shit just makes the delusionally grandiose claims all the more ridiculous; 99% of it is forgotten the next day.
posted by Saxon Kane at 5:30 AM on August 10


am so tired of the phrase "this person just totally changed the way we look at [insert pop culture text here]" and its ilk. It's part of the trend in internet rhetoric that every single fucking thing posted is MIND BLOWING THE BEST EVAR YOU CAN NEVER UNSEE THIS. This photo of a little white girl giving an old black man a glass of lemonade will restore your faith in humanity! This video of a puppy playing with a bird will change the way you look at your dog!

Very much the tone of the new Doctor Who show from both Davies and Moffat. This is basically the character of the Doctor. This is why the show is so awful.
posted by juiceCake at 8:06 AM on August 10 [1 favorite]


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