Poor Man's Eggs Benedict
October 6, 2015 5:35 AM   Subscribe

"That sound you hear at 11 a.m. Tuesday — those exultant cheers swiftly muffled by mouthfuls of English muffin, bacon, egg and cheese? They are the victory cries of thousands of McDonald’s breakfast lovers, who for the first time in 43 years will (officially) be able to consume Egg McMuffins at whatever time of day they deem fit. These are heady times, people." By Sarah Kaplan. SLWashPost.
posted by valkane (142 comments total) 15 users marked this as a favorite
 
I feel like this will go the way of Burger King's cassava fries. People say all kinds of stuff but then don't end up ordering it anyway. Maybe I'm wrong, but we will see.
posted by Literaryhero at 5:41 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


I was excited about this, because I genuinely love McDonald's breakfast, but I'm disappointed for two reasons:

1) Much of the nation, including myself, lives in the "McMuffin Zone" which means no McDonald's biscuits. They're not even the best fast food biscuits, but they're biscuits damn it, and that's better than English Muffins.

2) Whether or not hash browns will be served is apparently a store by store decision. The hash brown is an important part of a satisfying McDonald's breakfast drunken 3 AM meal.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 5:42 AM on October 6, 2015 [14 favorites]




1) Much of the nation, including myself, lives in the "McMuffin Zone" which means no McDonald's biscuits. They're not even the best fast food biscuits, but they're biscuits damn it, and that's better than English Muffins.


Meanwhile, I'm stuck in the biscuit ghetto, even though I can already get better biscuits at Bojangles all day long. And I happen to like English muffins, which are better suited to the rigors of the fast food supply chain than biscuits..
posted by TedW at 5:48 AM on October 6, 2015 [11 favorites]


And since the article diverges from McDonalds, let me share my favorite breakfast sandwich. Maybe not a breakfast sandwich, actually. Or a sandwich at all. Whatever, I'm hungry.
posted by Literaryhero at 5:49 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


One time I had a long layover in Texas. While I was rushing from one terminal to the other I passed a poor guy hauling a giant pallet-loader of boxes. Each box was stamped with the McDonald's logo and LIQUID EGG PRODUCT.

That's better than having each store rehydrate the eggs separately, right?

Egg McMuffins are the one and only thing that I really enjoy at McDonalds (as compared to the rest of the menu, which I will eat when absolutely necessary but without much pleasure), but I doubt I will ever order one other than at breakfast. Call me old fashioned, but I mostly just eat breakfast foods in the morning and don't particularly crave them at other times.
posted by Dip Flash at 5:52 AM on October 6, 2015


Patrick Stewart once told me that some of them serve breakfast all day.

Each box was stamped with the McDonald's logo and LIQUID EGG PRODUCT

But but but the TV commercial says that each Egg McMuffin begins with the crack of an egg on the grill! Are you saying that's not actually true?! Maybe they meant the crack of the seal on a vial of liquid egg product.
posted by Servo5678 at 5:54 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


I assume LIQUID EGG PRODUCT is something akin to Egg Beaters, which, while a kind of absurd product (it's not hard to crack some eggs and whip them) is not that scary. I'm sort of a James Beard inspired gourmand but I love me a McDonald's breakfast sandwich on a hungover morning.
posted by dis_integration at 5:54 AM on October 6, 2015 [12 favorites]


That's better than having each store rehydrate the eggs separately, right?

...but probably not quite as good as actually having eggs.

That said: don't listen to me. To me these things look horrific in the ads, fuck knows what the real deal is like...
posted by pompomtom at 5:55 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Meanwhile, I'm stuck in the biscuit ghetto, even though I can already get better biscuits at Bojangles all day long. And I happen to like English muffins, which are better suited to the rigors of the fast food supply chain than biscuits..

See this is why McDonald's should have made exactly the other choice. I respect that no one who has ready access to a Bojangles or a Biscuitville or what have you is going to opt for McDonald's, but I don't have access to those places because I'm a Southern living in exile. I want some biscuits damn it.

But but but the TV commercial says that each Egg McMuffin begins with the crack of an egg on the grill! Are you saying that's not actually true?! Maybe they meant the crack of the seal on a vial of liquid egg product.

McMuffins do use fresh cracked eggs, it's the other sandwiches that don't, although you can ask for a "round egg" and get a fresh cracked egg on anything.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 5:56 AM on October 6, 2015 [23 favorites]


October 6: The Fall

None of us imagined the Bird would be capable of such violence. She always seemed so innocent, so gentle and childlike, but it was nothing but a ruse, a disguise she wore until the day she could strike.

And strike she did, on the sixth of October. After years of relegation to the morning hours, she seized the opportunity to broaden her reign, and she did it with such suddenness and brutality that none of us were prepared.

The Burglar was the first to fall, and his final anguished cry of "Robble!" still echoes in my thoughts. He was followed by the Purple One, his face locked in a rictus of agony as she brought him down with her beak and talons.

The Officer arrived too late to save them, but he charged into battle without hesitation, prepared to give his own life in defense of the peace. Alas, his bravery was no match for her fury.

She must have other plans for me, for she did not kill me outright. She locked me into my own mayoral offices and forced me to watch as she drowned the Nuggets in their own sauces and plucked the Fry People apart one tendril at a time.

And what of the Clown, our ruler? I saw him take to the skies in his hot-air balloon, rising above the land, literally above the fray. As the Bird dragged me away, I cried out to him for salvation. He looked down at me, his white face impassive, and spoke. Although he was too far away for me to hear, I could read his red lips, and my heart sank into frozen despair, for his words imparted unto me the horrible truth.

"I'm lovin' it."
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:57 AM on October 6, 2015 [69 favorites]


"Maybe not a breakfast sandwich, actually. Or a sandwich at all. "

It's heroic. A heroic sandwich.
posted by notsnot at 5:58 AM on October 6, 2015


Much of the nation, including myself, lives in the "McMuffin Zone"

Well, drat. I was looking forward to being able to get a steak, egg and cheese biscuit sandwich at any time of the day, but no biscuits for me outside of breakfast hours. No steak either, apparently.
posted by yhbc at 5:59 AM on October 6, 2015


I had a sausage egg mcmuffin with a side of fries while driving home from a weekend camping trip on Sunday night. It was fantastic.

I'm pretty meh about fast food on the whole, but I'm still always excited for a mcmuffin.
posted by geegollygosh at 5:59 AM on October 6, 2015 [5 favorites]


They're totally burying the lede here, which is that the kitchens will have breakfast and lunch ingredients available at all hours. Time was, you could only come up with so many permutations of sandwich, because at 11AM the eggs and bacon get swapped out for hamburgers and filets-o'-fish. When you have both sets available at once, magic can happen. I worked as a McDonald's short order cook for one hellishglorious summer, and the 11AM changeover was always the best time to be working, because you could cobble together glorious frankensandwiches of egg and cheese and burger and hollandaise and bacon. Now the general public will have access to this same bounty!
posted by Mayor West at 6:00 AM on October 6, 2015 [22 favorites]


I understand how it happens, but I do love the thought process that ends in the conclusion: "oh no steak after 11:00 AM, steak is a breakfast food."
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:01 AM on October 6, 2015 [21 favorites]


This seems sort of practical and easier than switching it up every day.

I worked at Burger King when I was younger (four and a half wonderful years) and every day around 11:00 we'd do the changeover from breakfast to lunch and it was total chaos every single time. We'd have to change out all the stock, clean the eggs off the grill, and basically turn over the entire kitchen, all while the place was packed with the late breakfast / early lunch crowd.

There'd be like an hour window when people would order lunch but we hadn't changed over and then once we'd change over some people would still want breakfast. There'd be that point where one guy in line got to order breakfast and then we'd have to tell the next person "nope, sorry... we're on lunch now." and every single time they'd be like "But... but... but... I just heard that guy order a bacon and egg Croissandwich! I want one too!" and then they'd get mad at us and tell us we were losers for working at Burger King. Good times.

Every day was hell.

So it seems like serving breakfast all day is in a lot of ways easier. You just keep the stock around and you just make whatever.

Also, the Egg McMuffin is probably the only actual edible thing McDonalds serves for breakfast.
posted by bondcliff at 6:02 AM on October 6, 2015 [11 favorites]


(something tells me Mayor West and I are very, very different people)
posted by bondcliff at 6:04 AM on October 6, 2015 [5 favorites]


McMuffins do use fresh cracked eggs, it's the other sandwiches that don't, although you can ask for a "round egg" and get a fresh cracked egg on anything.

Yep, that's why I like their McMuffins more than pretty much anything else they serve, though it also occasionally leads to "well, this is definitely real egg" moments where you bite into bits of shell, which is the worst.
posted by kmz at 6:04 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


To me these things look horrific in the ads, fuck knows what the real deal is like...

I have a photo of the Dunkin Donuts Tailgater sandwich saved on my phone to text to my wife when I want to upset / horrify her.
posted by uncleozzy at 6:06 AM on October 6, 2015 [8 favorites]


A cousin-in-law works for McDonalds and finds this a huge hassle. But I'll happily have a sausage biscuit for lunch.
posted by Foosnark at 6:08 AM on October 6, 2015


I'm kind of in love with Egg White Delights. When I'm restricting my calories they are a godsend.
posted by Doleful Creature at 6:08 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


I just got home from my usual nightshift (eighteen years and counting). My lunch was a coffee and egg McMuffin at 3am, and it was glorious.
posted by 1066 at 6:08 AM on October 6, 2015 [8 favorites]


Except in Canada apparently, or at least the one near my house apparently won't be participating. We get the short end of the stick once again >:(

I do love these things and they are my go-to breakfast or lunch in many situations where I'm running around and would probably otherwise be shoving a muffin in my mouth. Starbucks and Tim Hortons have their versions too now and at least Starbucks does serve them all day.
posted by jamesonandwater at 6:16 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


The McDonald's down the street has been doing this for at least a week. I had an Egg McMuffin at 4 pm the other day. That's right. FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON!

I don't plan on ordering anything else from McDonald's ever again.
posted by double block and bleed at 6:17 AM on October 6, 2015 [10 favorites]


As usual, McDonald's gets it wrong.

Nobody wants your appallingly mediocre egg product and greasy sausage or fake ham crap all day.

What I want is to be able to get a cheeseburger and fries at 0700 on my way to work.

You had one job, Ray.
posted by Sphinx at 6:18 AM on October 6, 2015 [16 favorites]


Ah good -- this will be much more convenient than actually going into a gas station and microwaving a Jimmy Dean's breakfast sandwhich.
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:19 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Except in Canada apparently

I'm not a McBreakfast person, but a friend is, and it has been made clear that all day breakfast is a US thing.

I can't quite figure out why -- is there less interest? Are there weird rules here?
posted by jeather at 6:20 AM on October 6, 2015


I had an Egg McMuffin at 4 pm the other day. That's right. FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON!
I don't plan on ordering anything else from McDonald's ever again.


Nobody wants your appallingly mediocre egg product

Does anybody even read anything
posted by Wolfdog at 6:21 AM on October 6, 2015 [12 favorites]


fake ham crap

I am utterly convinced that the Egg McMuffin is probably the first time in their lives that most Americans encounter Canadian Bacon. Probably around the age of 4 or 5.
posted by valkane at 6:22 AM on October 6, 2015 [9 favorites]


McDonald's All-Day Breakfast Might Make America's Egg Shortage Worse (Bloomberg, with auto-playing video)
Restaurants and other food companies have already been struggling to get enough eggs following the worst outbreak of bird flu in U.S. history. With the world’s largest fast-food chain shifting to all-day breakfast next month, the strain is only going to increase, said Darren Tristano, an executive vice president at research firm Technomic. That could mean higher prices for consumers, as well as chains having to get more creative with where they get their eggs.
And it'll get even worse if other fast food chains follow suit.
posted by filthy light thief at 6:23 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Well, it's the only way we'll learn.
posted by The Card Cheat at 6:27 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


world’s largest fast-food chain shifting to all-day breakfast next month

Subway is shifting to all day breakfast too?
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:27 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


All I know is that of the McDonaldland characters, Grimace is by far the most promiscuous. Watch yourself.
posted by delfin at 6:27 AM on October 6, 2015 [6 favorites]


I hope that they have the Sausage McMuffin, (I'd rather Sausage Biscuit, but they do not deem us worthy of biscuits all day here in Boston) and not just the egg things, because I'm kind of meh on the Egg McMuffin, but I do love sausage, cheese, and an English Muffin, and I'm about to start rehearsals for a show, so that at 11pm would be LOVELY.
posted by xingcat at 6:29 AM on October 6, 2015


My daughter likes to go to McDonalds before her gymnastics night because it's got a playground and she can get McNuggets (gross as they are they are still protein).

Sometimes I get one of their awful burgers but most of the time I just avoid eating because I don't need 2+ days worth of sodium and fat.

Having a relatively low calorie option like an egg mcmuffin as a dinner (no hashbrowns or fries thank you) will be a godsend so I don't have to get an awful smoothie.
posted by vuron at 6:29 AM on October 6, 2015


The "McMuffin Zone" does not mean you can't get the biscuits, it's just customer preference. I live in Massachusetts and have been able to get biscuit breakfast sandwiches in MA, NH, ME, NY and PA without any trouble at all since they first started offering them.
posted by briank at 6:30 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Excellent news. The people who most need a McDonalds breakfast are exactly those who can't get there on time.

I don't imagine that the demand will be there all day, but there will definitely be demand for a couple of hours after the old cutoff. I'd rather do their breakfast for lunch than their dinner for lunch anytime.
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:30 AM on October 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


This is pure genius. Hopefully I can now ask for a fried egg on top of my double cheeseburger and pancakes instead of fries. Could even do pancakes instead of the bun.
posted by AugustWest at 6:35 AM on October 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


I worked at a McDonalds in high school and I can verify that they have both real actual eggs still in their shell as well as the LIQUID EGG PRODUCT (which is just pre-cracked eggs I think).

I will wait to voice my approval when it is proven that this won't slow McDonald's down. Their food isn't any better than any other fast food restaurant but their value is in speed. It should only take a couple of minutes to get through the drive through (not counting the really rushed times) while the other places take FOREVER. Ever been to a Jack-in-the-Box? SO SLOW. I go to McDonald's because I want my imitation food product quickly, damn it! (Also, I like their dollar/value menu better than most other places.)
posted by LizBoBiz at 6:36 AM on October 6, 2015


so. this is what mefi has come to.

BEST LIQUID EGG PRODUCT OF THE WEB
posted by quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon at 6:39 AM on October 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


Ah. So this is how the zombie apocalypse begins.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:42 AM on October 6, 2015


I'm sorry just
According to company legend, it was the brainchild of California franchisee Herb Peterson, who loved Eggs Benedict and wanted to recreate the dish without the mess of Hollandaise sauce
Way to completely miss the point of Eggs Benedict
posted by Gordafarin at 6:43 AM on October 6, 2015 [23 favorites]


Bulgaroktonos: "
1) Much of the nation, including myself, lives in the "McMuffin Zone" which means no McDonald's biscuits. They're not even the best fast food biscuits, but they're biscuits damn it, and that's better than English Muffins.
"

Huh, I had no idea that biscuits weren't universal but from that map, it looks like southwestern PA is the only place in Pennsylvania where you can get biscuits. Weird.
posted by octothorpe at 6:43 AM on October 6, 2015


Oh, wow. Here's something to excite American suburbanites with a weight problem.

That's not sarcastic, btw. I'm an American suburbanite with a weight problem. This is pretty cool.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 6:44 AM on October 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


Y'all. You can still get both biscuits and McMuffins during the (I assume) government-mandated Breakfast Hours, it's just that the all-day breakfast will be either muffins or biscuits.
posted by Rock Steady at 6:46 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Y'all. You can still get both biscuits and McMuffins during the (I assume) government-mandated Breakfast Hours, it's just that the all-day breakfast will be either muffins or biscuits.

That's just silly. I want all the starch options!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:49 AM on October 6, 2015


People say all kinds of stuff but then don't end up ordering it anyway.

Yesterday I had a potato pancake with my fish sandwich at 9 PM. I live in a (slightly) better world now. That's all that I ask, it adds up.
posted by StickyCarpet at 6:55 AM on October 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


When I was in my early 20s I worked in a building that had a McDonald's on the first floor. Their breakfast was a life-saver when hungover at work.
posted by ghharr at 6:59 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


If you ever want to hear terrible racist old people ranting to each other, hang out at a mcdonalds at 6AM. Maybe this will spread this out across all hours.
posted by Ferreous at 7:00 AM on October 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


So now I can be safely hungover at work any hour of the day!
posted by ghharr at 7:00 AM on October 6, 2015 [7 favorites]


Another great thing about this is that it's triggered White Castle to serve breakfast all day.

Having a Significant Other that only likes White Castle for their breakfast, we can now eat there for regular meals.
posted by hwyengr at 7:09 AM on October 6, 2015


The breakfast options at McDonalds are the only things that don't make me faintly nauseous. So excited.
posted by wotsac at 7:10 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


I can't quite figure out why -- is there less interest? Are there weird rules here?

It's an equipment issue. The old gear could only be set up for preparing breakfast or lunch at any one time.
posted by NoxAeternum at 7:13 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


McMuffins are the perfect hangover food and I'm now a little sad that this didn't happen in my young and feckless days when I might find myself hungover at any old random time of day. This would have been like a glorious greasy miracle.

(These days McMuffins are "it's six a.m. and I'm at Home Depot picking up sump pump replacement parts on a Saturday morning, what the hell, McDonald's is right there, let's grab something fast so we can get home and start tearing the basement apart" food. Joys of being a thirtysomething homeowner with a full complement of feck.)
posted by Stacey at 7:20 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


I'm in Canada so I won't be a beneficiary of this fabulous development but the day I found out that I could get both an egg Mcmuffin and a decent espresso from McDonald's was a wonderful day in my life.
posted by biggreenplant at 7:21 AM on October 6, 2015



I'm not a McBreakfast person, but a friend is, and it has been made clear that all day breakfast is a US thing.

I can't quite figure out why -- is there less interest? Are there weird rules here?


Canada has not had a successful rebellion. Yet.
posted by srboisvert at 7:24 AM on October 6, 2015


I'm a Southern living in exile. I want some biscuits damn it.

It's not as convenient as the drive through, but James Beard's cream biscuits are delicious and idiot-proof, especially if you do them as a drop biscuit (e.g. don't bother kneading, just spoon out a biscuit-sized lump of dough.) Takes about 15 minutes, maybe 20 if you need a bit more time for the oven to heat up.

You can have biscuits in your world, is what I'm saying. The connoisseur may prefer buttermilk (which are a little fussier) but I had a sixty year old Southern gentleman compliment my cream biscuits once.
posted by Diablevert at 7:26 AM on October 6, 2015 [10 favorites]


Another great thing about this is that it's triggered White Castle to serve breakfast all day.

Having a Significant Other that only likes White Castle for their breakfast, we can now eat there for regular meals.


I like the taste of White Castle, but I just don't have that kind of free time to devote to shitting.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 7:27 AM on October 6, 2015 [13 favorites]


See, the Ents just don't get up that early in the day. This is just McDs responding to r/trees.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 7:29 AM on October 6, 2015 [5 favorites]


As someone who is rarely awake by 10:30, this sounded promising until I read about the biscuit/muffin thing. Who wants English muffins? Those are terrible. The biscuit sandwiches are reasonably good (for fast food at least) but apparently I would still have to wake up before 10:30 and thats just not going to happen. Oh well.
posted by thefoxgod at 7:30 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


I can't tell you all how heartening it is to see that there are other McD's breakfast fans out there in Mefiland. I used to grab a sausage-egg-biscuit sandwich/hash browns/orange juice on the way to work as a special treat...and I wasn't even dealing with a hangover or anything. I felt guilty about it (because McD's is evil, blah blah blah) but no more! I may grab one on the way home tonight. Bummed that they'll only have mcMuffins, though. The biscuits are where it's at.
posted by Elly Vortex at 7:31 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


I will wait to voice my approval when it is proven that this won't slow McDonald's down.

My store has been testing the breakfast, and the first question you get is "Breakfast or Lunch today?" And then you look at the menu board and realize there are now TWO number 1s, TWO number 2s, etc....

This is going to make a lot of brains lock up until they get into the habit, OR McDs finds a way to recode the menu board.
posted by JoeZydeco at 7:35 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


I don't have any strong feelings about anything else McDonalds serves one way or the other...but the hash browns? JUST HOOK IT TO MY VEINS
posted by The Card Cheat at 7:36 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


Ferreous: If you ever want to hear terrible racist old people ranting to each other, hang out at a mcdonalds at 6AM. Maybe this will spread this out across all hours.

Nothing sucks more than hurrying to McDonald's only to find out that they've already switched over from racism to sexism.
posted by dr_dank at 7:38 AM on October 6, 2015 [26 favorites]


The great thing about the Egg McMuffin is that it's a kind of vindication of fast food. For all the ways that the fast food industry has become notorious for making bland and uninteresting products, it also somehow made about as perfect a breakfast food as you can get. No, really: attempts to make a haute cuisine version of the Egg McMuffin fail miserably. To paraphrase Andy Warhol, an Egg McMuffin is an Egg McMuffin and no amount of money can get you a better Egg McMuffin than the one the bum on the corner is eating.
posted by Cash4Lead at 7:38 AM on October 6, 2015 [15 favorites]


I worked countless breakfast shifts at McDonald's and I personally cracked thousands upon thousands of eggs which went into breakfast sandwiches. They are real, ordinary eggs. They cook inside little rings which are placed on the grill. The "liquid egg product" is pasteurized egg which is used for the scrambled eggs that go in the "Big Breakfasts", and also the bagel sandwiches, if you have those where you are.
posted by PercussivePaul at 7:40 AM on October 6, 2015 [7 favorites]


I've always suspected that the McDonalds bean-counters always resented the Egg McMuffin, that Offense to Efficiency, with its actual egg, shipped in an actual shell, requiring actual stewardship over the grill. If it wouldn't create the type of public backlash a preschool mass-shooting couldn't even generate in this country, they'd ditch it overnight.

On the other hand, they're trying for "high end" custom burgers now, so maybe not. I get the sense they really have no idea what they should be doing at this point.
posted by sourwookie at 7:41 AM on October 6, 2015


Also, I'm surprised they never developed a food starch-stabilized "Hollandaise Spread", thus making the easily marketed "McBenedict".
posted by sourwookie at 7:44 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


wtf I can't get a McGriddle? guess I'm having tears for my lunch breakfast.
posted by mmmbacon at 7:46 AM on October 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


I'm going to order the big bucket of gravy you tie around your neck and just jam your face into.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 7:47 AM on October 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


I assume LIQUID EGG PRODUCT is something akin to Egg Beaters, which, while a kind of absurd product (it's not hard to crack some eggs and whip them) is not that scary.

That would be my guess. I've worked in a number of kitchens and restaurants over the years, and often grocery store bakeries will buy something similar. Basically a big bucket of egg, all cracked for you already and mixed together. There was nothing wrong with it and when you're dealing with high volume it was really convenient. But yeah I'd prefer just an egg cracked onto the skillet.
posted by Hoopo at 7:53 AM on October 6, 2015


Also, I'm surprised they never developed a food starch-stabilized "Hollandaise Spread", thus making the easily marketed "McBenedict".

The breakfast bagel sandwiches do have this. It's called "Breakfast Sauce" and you can see the ingredients here if you expand the ingredients. It's not quite hollandaise, but it sure seems like that's what it's trying to approximate. I have no idea why they don't have this as an option on the Egg McMuffin. It makes sense.
posted by Clinging to the Wreckage at 7:59 AM on October 6, 2015


My future hungover self is so goddamned happy about this!

My local McDonald's is really awful at any special requests. I've had 'egg mcmuffin, no Canadian bacon' screwed up multiple different ways (My favorite is when they added regular bacon to the Canadian bacon). So, I gave up and just remove the meat myself. This leads to a technically vegetarian Egg mcmuffin that has just a hint of porky flavor. It's super good. I like it even more than eating the meat. (I'm a bad vegetarian, especially when hungover)
posted by Fig at 8:00 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


To paraphrase Andy Warhol, an Egg McMuffin is an Egg McMuffin and no amount of money can get you a better Egg McMuffin than the one the bum on the corner is eating.

I dunno. There's a place not too far from where I work called Chicken Lou's, which I guess is some kind of institution at Northeastern University. They make a breakfast sandwich called The Cholesterol that is basically an Egg McMuffin only everything is freshly cooked and I think they add extra grease or something because it is the greatest cure for morning grogginess / hangover ever and it will carry you all day until dinner time.
posted by bondcliff at 8:02 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Am I the only one who loves the McGriddle? No cheese, with sausage... MMMMMMMmmmmmm sweet and salty goodness.
posted by misskaz at 8:13 AM on October 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


Clinging to the Wreckage: It's not quite hollandaise, but

Not Quite Hollandaise. In the tradition of That's Not Yogurt and Almost Pizza. The unholy triad is complete.
posted by mochapickle at 8:14 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


No, I'm a big fan of the McGriddle. I'm a little disappointed I can't now get a burger with egg and cheese on a McGriddle.
posted by Ben Trismegistus at 8:16 AM on October 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


msskaz, I prefer no cheese with bacon (go figure) but we can be breakfast buds
posted by mmmbacon at 8:17 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Faint of Butt, thank you for that slice of McHorror.
posted by infinitewindow at 8:22 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


"No, really: attempts to make a haute cuisine version of the Egg McMuffin fail miserably."

I present you the "PDC matin"!! (sorry can't find an english version).

It's the "Pied de Cochon" version of the McMuffin, the Pied de Cochon is a Montreal restaurant renowned for it lean cuisine. It's awesome, also a lot more expensive and complicated to make, so you can't really compare it too much.
posted by coust at 8:24 AM on October 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


Wendy's tried to do breakfast in my area, and it was great. The "artisan" egg sandwich, in particular, with eggs, bacon, and hollandaise, was fantastic. Unfortunately, it seems to have been a flop, so it's highly questionable whether they'll ever bring it back or roll it out nationwide.
posted by tonycpsu at 8:31 AM on October 6, 2015


Pied de Cochon is a Montreal restaurant renowned for it lean cuisine

I am not convinced that it's known for this precisely.
posted by jeather at 8:39 AM on October 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


Egg McMuffins play to the strengths of fast food. An English muffin is intended to be bread made ahead of time and then toasted right before you eat it. Sausage is kind of the original fast food meat - mystery bits made edible with tons of salt and spices. (Ham and bacon are similarly better fast-food meats than beef or chicken.) And you can't really freeze eggs and they come from the chickens in nice single-serving packages, so you get a fresh egg on there.

So it's not surprising McDonald's can make a better sandwich from those ingredients than with frozen ground beef and days-old buns, tomatoes, and lettuce.
posted by straight at 9:09 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


I feel like this will go the way of Burger King's cassava fries.

Wait. Are you telling me that at some point in time, Burger King was serving yuca frita? And now they aren't? And I missed it?

WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED?

(Admittedly, it would probably help if I ever went to Burger King, but how could I have known?)
posted by McCoy Pauley at 9:10 AM on October 6, 2015


These are my two McDonald's breakfast opinions. Are you ready? Get hype

1. English muffins are better than biscuits. English muffins are fucking awesome. They have texture and good springy chewiness and the structural integrity to support a sandwich construction. Biscuit crusts are tasty but once you pass beyond that fleeting moment of pleasantness you have a mouthful of wet flour that sticks to your teeth and palate. Further, the more you eat it the more the biscuit crumbles and fails to provide adequate support to the ingredients it is sandwiching. Biscuits are inadequate to the demands of sandwichcraft and are overrated to boot.

2. I am surprised to see love here for McDonald's hashbrowns, but I guess there are some people who enjoy rancid cooking oil as a flavor profile.

PBO out
posted by prize bull octorok at 9:49 AM on October 6, 2015 [13 favorites]


No egg white delight?????

I AM RIOT
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 9:49 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


I will mainly find this good for the days when I am craving a McMuffin and my SO is running late so I would otherwise miss the breakfast cutoff. I am very happy to not be stuck in the biscuit zone.

Interestingly, back when I was in Tulsa, the McDonalds there had started doing a limited breakfast menu starting at about 11PM, so I'm pretty used to not having the full breakfast available. Yes, I eat way too much McDonald's (once a week or so, usually but not always breakfast). They did a lot of weird shit in Tulsa.

Speaking of Tulsa, if you are anywhere that has a Taco Bueno (which is not a huge overlap with the Mefite geography, but there are some in the Bueno zone) and have the same strange fascination with McDonald's Cinnamon Melts that I do and want to satisfy your curiosity after breakfast hours, go to Bueno and order the Monkey Bread. It is precisely the same product as Cinnamon Melts, but is available all day. I generally go for the waistline ballooning Cheesecake Chimichanga, though. Or did. I've lost so much weight since that crack was excised from my life.

The other interesting thing to me is that the biscuit zone pretty closely mirrors the Hardee's/Car's Jr. line. This is interesting to me because every Hardee's serves biscuits that are actually good (not just "good" in a fast food sense), but does not serve english muffins, so anyone with a lick of sense who eats muffin-based breakfast sandwiches will get their breakfast sandwiches from Hardee's.
posted by wierdo at 9:52 AM on October 6, 2015


Biscuits are inadequate to the demands of sandwichcraft and are overrated to boot.

I agree with this statement. Biscuits are primarily designed to be consumed with sausage gravy.
posted by valkane at 9:54 AM on October 6, 2015 [6 favorites]


Huh, I had no idea that biscuits weren't universal but from that map, it looks like southwestern PA is the only place in Pennsylvania where you can get biscuits. Weird.

Biscuits in Pennsatucky? Makes sense to me
posted by thecjm at 9:59 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Why am I the only one who sees this as an intra-industry move against Jack In The Box which advertises breakfast all day pretty heavily? Sonic also does it I think in some regions.
posted by GuyZero at 10:01 AM on October 6, 2015


If I remember correctly, English Muffins were invented in New York by an Englishman named Mr. Thomas who was working out a variation on the crumpet. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
posted by valkane at 10:02 AM on October 6, 2015


English muffins are better than biscuits. English muffins are fucking awesome.

But McDs manages to make them so oily that they stop being awesome.
posted by GuyZero at 10:03 AM on October 6, 2015


Perhaps Mac Sabbath will write a song about it.
posted by boilermonster at 10:03 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


When I still lived in VA there was this Turkish place that made breakfast. They had this thing they called an Egg Nest. Two scrambled eggs, feta, a yogurt sauce, onions and tomato wrapped in a thick hot pita. People at work noticed I was eating something way more awesome than they were picking up at the golden arches. I let someone have a bite and was soon picking up 12 of them every morning. The whole department was nom-nom for a bit in the morning and supervisors knew not to mess with us. They signed on.
posted by Mr. Yuck at 10:05 AM on October 6, 2015 [5 favorites]


it has been made clear that all day breakfast is a US thing.

Tim's is apparently starting to do breakfast until 5 pm, and they offer the choice of English muffin or biscuit.
posted by bonehead at 10:07 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


I don't know about those Egg Beater cartons, but here in Calgary, AB, all Egg McMuffins are made with actual, real, cracked eggs. And now I'm sad that this does not extend here.
posted by tatiana131 at 10:08 AM on October 6, 2015


Biscuit crusts are tasty but once you pass beyond that fleeting moment of pleasantness you have a mouthful of wet flour that sticks to your teeth and palate. Further, the more you eat it the more the biscuit crumbles and fails to provide adequate support to the ingredients it is sandwiching. Biscuits are inadequate to the demands of sandwichcraft and are overrated to boot.

Are you getting your biscuits from some hoity toity "brunch place"? Those places often make gigantic, terrible biscuits that fall apart when you try to eat them other than with a fork. You're no doubt describing biscuits you've eaten, but you're not describing good biscuits. Otherwise, sure there are limits to how much filling you can put on a biscuit, but why would you care about that when a slice of country ham or some sausage is all you really need?
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 10:10 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Am I the only one who loves the McGriddle? No cheese, with sausage... MMMMMMMmmmmmm sweet and salty goodness.

you might be interested in the zine McGriddle Defense, which you can get a PDF copy of by clicking somewhere on that page.
ǝʞɐɔǝlppᴉɹƃ doʇ ǝɥʇ s,ʇᴉ :sɹǝlᴉods
posted by knuckle tattoos at 10:13 AM on October 6, 2015


Slightly off-topic, but the Filet-o-Fish confuses me. Only four components, but against all mathematical possibility never have I had those components assembled the same way twice. I swear even once I've had it with the sauce and cheese outside the bun.
posted by sourwookie at 10:25 AM on October 6, 2015 [8 favorites]


The capacity of underpaid, untrained workers to put things together in new combinations is Taco Bell's entire business model. I think each new menu item is just what some stoned employee accidentally assembled trying to make something they already sold.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 10:29 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


Sonic also serves breakfast all day! (Sorry in advance for MeFites not privy to the deliciousness of America's Drive-In and its tertiary phalanx of inifini-sodas.)
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 10:29 AM on October 6, 2015


Dip Flash: " Call me old fashioned, but I mostly just eat breakfast foods in the morning and don't particularly crave them at other times."

You need to try having an afternoon hangover and then you will appreciate the glory of McBreakfast at 3 p.m.

Sphinx: "What I want is to be able to get a cheeseburger and fries at 0700 on my way to work. "

You need to find a 24-hours McDonalds, they typically serve cheeseburgers around the clock. You can't get the fancier sandwiches but you can always get a burger and fries.

vuron: "My daughter likes to go to McDonalds before her gymnastics night because it's got a playground and she can get McNuggets (gross as they are they are still protein)."

Ugh, no, now they're gross because they took away the transfat and make them of actual white meat instead of rendered chicken mash. They're like semi-healthy now and that makes them terrible (in comparison to my childhood memories of them anyway).

PS, the other world's perfect hangover food is Costco pepperoni pizza by the slice. "Am I too hung over to drive to Costco?" you wonder. "Or will I feel so much better after the pizza that it will be worth it?"
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 10:39 AM on October 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


yessss costco food is the best for hangovers. hot dog with a ton of mustard and onions and then no one wants to come near me which is just fine by me when i'm a greasy hungover mess

sorry for derail but now i want a costco dog
posted by burgerrr at 10:46 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


those places often make gigantic, terrible biscuits that fall apart when you try to eat them other than with a fork.

I don't come from a biscuit culture, but these sound not dissimilar to the the lumps of wallpaper paste most places try to pass of as "scones".
posted by bonehead at 10:59 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


tertiary phalanx of inifini-sodas
Chocolate Diet Coke, mmm
posted by soelo at 11:01 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


I bet Costco food would be tasty if you have a hangover. But a massive bulk discount store while I have a hangover sounds like torture. I'll stick with terrible Little Caesar's pizza, which also works.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 11:03 AM on October 6, 2015


I buy the take-and-bake Costco pizzas, slice them up and freeze them individually for such occasions. It helps.
posted by memento maury at 11:07 AM on October 6, 2015


DirtyOldTown: "But a massive bulk discount store while I have a hangover sounds like torture. I'll stick with terrible Little Caesar's pizza,"

It IS a bit of a rough trek, but I cannot express how much better Costco pizza is for hangovers than Little Caesar's. Costco has a bit of the "1990s school cafeteria pizza" greasiness about it that is essential to hangover cure.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 11:09 AM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Scones are biscuits are scones. Just one has jam, the other sausage gravy. Making both very right and both very wrong at the same time. No one mentions this because it's too tricky a paradox.


Seriously. Totally the same recipe.
posted by DangerIsMyMiddleName at 11:48 AM on October 6, 2015


I made the mistake of wandering in to the nearest-to-work McD's for lunch a few weeks back -- they were doing training for all-day breakfast and the place was filled with McD's managers from all over the region. The cashier asked me not to bring my bike inside (this has never been a problem previously -- and that location has no bike parking at all) and I left with a bunch of managers on my tail apologizing and assuring me that I could stay with my bike. I do try not to patronize bicycle-unfriendly businesses, so I politely declined their offers.

Not really sure where I'm going with this story other than I regret that pride kept me from having a McGriddle.
posted by asperity at 11:50 AM on October 6, 2015


DangerIsMyMiddleName, I don't know if you are doing something horribly wrong when you are making scones, or biscuits or possibly both, but the two are most definitely not the same
posted by Meeks Ormand at 11:55 AM on October 6, 2015 [6 favorites]


glorious frankensandwiches of egg and cheese and burger and hollandaise and bacon

Oh God yes. Last restaurant I worked at I was on Sunday nights for a while, so I'd be coming in at the tail end of brunch, usually still hung over from the night before.. poached eggs and lots of bacon and hollandaise on a waffle? Hell ass to the fuck yes.

Having a 24hr McD's literally three minutes walk away is dangerous enough, I'm almost glad this isn't coming to Canada.

It's an equipment issue. The old gear could only be set up for preparing breakfast or lunch at any one time.

That's fascinating to me. It's interesting how the further away you get from the average sit-down restaurant to either direction, the more specialized the equipment gets.

I've always wondered, though, what happens to those big customized fryers and whatnot when they get swapped out. Junked? Sold further downstream to non-chain fast food?

Also, I'm surprised they never developed a food starch-stabilized "Hollandaise Spread", thus making the easily marketed "McBenedict".

This is a product that exists. It tastes even worse than it sounds.

I present you the "PDC matin"!! (sorry can't find an english version).

Holy shit I want to make this.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 11:56 AM on October 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


Meeks Ormand, well savoury scones are biscuits. But they totally interchange in a pinch. They're just transport for clotted cream or gravy.

That might be where I am going wrong, to be honest. But *pretty much the same, so help me Paul Hollywood*
posted by DangerIsMyMiddleName at 12:06 PM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Does this increase the chance of them bringing back the Arch Deluxe? Or am I the only person in the USA that actually liked that?
posted by Uncle Ira at 12:08 PM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


so. this is what mefi has come to.

BEST LIQUID EGG PRODUCT OF THE WEB
posted by quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon at 8:39 AM on October 6


To sort of mashup some old gold/white dress memery + metafilter, I'll post what I did during the dress fiasco...

Egg Yolk Blue?
posted by symbioid at 12:22 PM on October 6, 2015


They are both quickbreads and have very similar dry ingredients, but scones and biscuits are different enough that I don't presume interchangeability one to the other.

The fats are different, or on a different spectrum of acceptability, which affects texture. Kneading (or, more properly lack there of), cutting and shaping are different, and have differing traditions. Scones are typically sweetened as well, but not always.

Kissing cousins, but not quite the same.
posted by bonehead at 12:44 PM on October 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


I present you the "PDC matin"!!

Considering this for a Christmas gift. Or maybe this.
posted by bonehead at 12:51 PM on October 6, 2015


Scones are typically sweetened as well, but not always.

Let me tell you about the Bo-Berry Biscuit, a fast food biscuit so sweet I think my blood sugar spiked just thinking about it.

But yes that is obviously the exception.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 12:55 PM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Which just goes to show how little I know about US biscuit culture. To me, biscuits are made with Bisquick and served with soup.
posted by bonehead at 1:04 PM on October 6, 2015


Oh, get the book. I don't have a copy but I've read it, and it's spectacular.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 1:05 PM on October 6, 2015


I used to love Costco hot dogs and was delighted how just one dog all by itself was enough to fill me up. (I am very hard to fill up.) Then I found out that Costco hot dogs are really, really unhealthy. Like, aggressively, bafflingly bad for you. It's just a freaking hot dog! Why is it so, so bad for you?

I've been ordering McMuffins any old time, for years now. Is that just a Southern CA thing?
posted by Ursula Hitler at 2:10 PM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


I just want the breakfast bagel sandwiches back.

Holy shit, that garlic mayo "hollandaise" sauce stuff. It's as burned into my memory from childhood of cold winter mornings, going to ride the ferry and visit grandma as Hi-c and the occasional cruller donut.

Apparently they do have them in certain places still? But i've been in california, oregon, new york, minnesota, and even parts of canada in the past year and... nope.
posted by emptythought at 2:31 PM on October 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Costco hot dogs are really, really unhealthy. Like, aggressively, bafflingly bad for you.

Looks like what you've got there is, you bought a salt lick.
posted by Wolfdog at 2:54 PM on October 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


bonehead ... the sugar shack is kinda insane don't try to eat all the food on the table it's simply not possible ; ) It also fills up very fast, you'll have to book it on the site when it opens up (I think it's dec 1 at midnight), they'll call you back later to arrange a time.

The book is also very nice, more of a "look at the pictures" cookbook though for the elaborate dishes. There's a package with paperbacks version of both cookbooks (Pied de Cochon & Pied de Cochon Sugar Shack) available also.
posted by coust at 3:10 PM on October 6, 2015


Those of you bemoaning the lack of healthy hot dogs at Costco don't remember the golden days when they served a REAL kosher dog, Sinai 48s. They went away shortly after I became a vegan but I dumpster dived and saved two the aprons. I win cooking contests in those, based on my apparent race, religion, and sex.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 11:40 PM on October 6, 2015


Working third shift has taught me a lot of things but the most important thing is this: A sausage/egg/cheese McMuffin or two with cold beer is heaven.
posted by mcrandello at 1:00 AM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]


Also it's a weird thing, it seems that they call them "Sausage and egg McMuffins" at the counter and on the receipt, and you get cheese with that, but three times in separate restaurants I've ordered it that way and gotten the cheese left off. I know it was three times because without cheese the sandwich is bad enough to be memorable. I probably annoy the hell out of the counter person every time I'm in there ordering, making sure that it comes with cheese but I seriously get anxiety about having to relive that particular nightmare one more time.
posted by mcrandello at 1:04 AM on October 7, 2015


That reminds me actually. At the MSP airport, my partner ordered a sausage biscuit sandwich and got literally... a biscuit with sausage and NOTHING else. No sauce, nothing. Just a chunk of sausage and biscuit. They didn't ask any questions.

I went back and explained the issue, and without any fuss or question they gave me the one with egg and cheese and sauce and such. As if it happens all the time.

What the fuck? Why is that even a thing? Do they just count on people having to rush onto their plane and not come back to say anything and save what, 10 cents and bank that over time? I wasn't all that mad, i just thought it was really silly and stupid that it would even happen. It's like going to a tire store, paying for new tires, and having them say you're ready to go and then you head out to your car and all the tires are just stacked up in the back seat with a receipt instead of on the rims.

Just... what?
posted by emptythought at 3:28 AM on October 7, 2015


At the MSP airport, my partner ordered a sausage biscuit sandwich and got literally... a biscuit with sausage and NOTHING else

Isn't that what a McDonald's sausage biscuit is, though? It's really the only breakfast item there that I like ... but it doesn't particularly like me.
posted by uncleozzy at 4:42 AM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]


At the MSP airport, my partner ordered a sausage biscuit sandwich and got literally... a biscuit with sausage and NOTHING else.

So, they ordered a sausage biscuit and McD's gave them a sausage biscuit? Those bastards!
posted by Daily Alice at 4:54 AM on October 7, 2015 [4 favorites]


A sausage biscuit is just sausage on a biscuit. Your partner got what they asked for. It sounds like they wanted a sausage biscuit with egg.

The part about the tires stacked in the back seat was pretty funny.
posted by double block and bleed at 5:10 AM on October 7, 2015


The moment you unwrap your Egg McMuffin and realize you got the one with unmelted cheese. #fml
posted by Room 641-A at 5:13 AM on October 7, 2015 [4 favorites]


I occasionally mortify my friends and associates who know me to be the King Of All Breakfast™ because of my spiritual committment to never, ever start a day without a cooked-from-scratch breakfast when I profess to being perfectly happy on the odd occasion as I'm running late for work at the construction site to pick up a McMuffin (usually the sausage variety, as there's more protein oomph to it).

It's as real and unadulterated food as you're going to find in any fast food establishment, and if you luck out and avoid getting a dry, last-of-the-batch muffin, it's pretty much as good as what an average person would make for themself if they could be bothered, allowing for the tragedy that panicninnyism means the yolk has to be joylessly rigid. It's a great choice for the always-late contingent who'd otherwise be drowning their cells in a doughy sugarbomb of a muffin or having the official breakfast of sadness—cold cereal floating in cold milk—and now that I can rely on having a McMuffinated lunch available when I'm traveling, I can spend less time with my forearms stuck to an unwiped table at Waffle House, listening to spirited conversations from the next booth about how gay marriage is ruining America as we know it.

Of course, home cooking is often better, and I am the King Of All Breakfast™, and even now, I'm enjoying a meal of scratch biscuits and robust country sausage gravy that takes exactly 18 minutes to make, so I have to wonder why people seem so desperately behind that they settle for microwaved morning horrors instead of either real food or at least a McMuffin.

I can do without the usually floppy calorie grenade atrocity they call "hash browns," though.
posted by sonascope at 5:17 AM on October 7, 2015 [5 favorites]


When I still lived in VA there was this Turkish place that made breakfast.

I am so wrong sometimes. After mucking around trying to figure out if that place still exists I discovered it was a Greek place. Fuck me. The assassins are in the woods, but I know this farm better than anyone and will get through this. How do you say sorry in Greek?
posted by Mr. Yuck at 5:55 AM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]


How do you say sorry in Greek?

"Özür dilerim."
posted by Wolfdog at 6:33 AM on October 7, 2015 [4 favorites]


How do you say sorry in Greek?

Love of breakfast is never having to say you're sorry in Greek.
posted by AugustWest at 9:52 AM on October 7, 2015


This is a great week for the "McDonald's is actually really good" hipster
posted by naju at 4:37 PM on October 7, 2015


Sonic also serves breakfast all day!

Oh, it's better than that. Sonic serves EVERYTHING all day. You want a 7am Super Sonic Bacon Double Cheeseburger with mozzarella sticks? They're there for you.
posted by radwolf76 at 7:56 AM on October 8, 2015


The Sausage Biscuit with Egg doesn't even come with cheese. That's a 30 cent upcharge, and you only get the cheese about 2 out of 3 times.
posted by hwyengr at 10:59 AM on October 8, 2015


Sonic serves EVERYTHING all day.

Sonic has half-price fountain drinks during their happy hour, from 2-4 PM. And! Sonics that are open 24 hours have another happy hour from 2-4 AM. In case you want a cherry limeade in the wee hours.
posted by asperity at 11:04 AM on October 8, 2015 [2 favorites]




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