A project of the Rational Dress Society
August 24, 2016 11:13 AM Subscribe
"Just as we reject the mini-mansion in favor of the city, refuse the automobile in favor of the train, JUMPSUIT offers a way to forego the insular logic of self-expression in favor of forming communal bonds."
JUMPSUIT is an ungendered, multi-use monogarment for everyday wear. It will be disseminated in two forms: as a pre-made garment for purchase, and as an open-source pattern, available to download free of charge. The Rational Dress Society is currently developing a comprehensive new sizing system that can accommodate up to 248 different body types using gender-neutral terminology. Profits from JUMPSUIT will go into a fund to purchase a full page ad in American Vogue. The publication of the ad will mark the end of JUMPSUIT.
Ok, it's nice and all and I get it, but there is nothing practical or rational about having to get all your arms and boobs out of a garment just to be able to go pee.
posted by phunniemee at 11:17 AM on August 24, 2016 [79 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 11:17 AM on August 24, 2016 [79 favorites]
Two things, Wilma on Buck Rogers did jumpsuit right.
Second; the wedgie heels appear to be the least rational foorwear choice ever.
posted by Keith Talent at 11:17 AM on August 24, 2016 [12 favorites]
Second; the wedgie heels appear to be the least rational foorwear choice ever.
posted by Keith Talent at 11:17 AM on August 24, 2016 [12 favorites]
More information about the history of the original Rational Dress Society
posted by Annika Cicada at 11:20 AM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Annika Cicada at 11:20 AM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
It is, however, high modernist, which is a proxy for rationality.
posted by acb at 11:21 AM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by acb at 11:21 AM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
It's called a speed suit, Dean.
posted by shmegegge at 11:22 AM on August 24, 2016 [39 favorites]
posted by shmegegge at 11:22 AM on August 24, 2016 [39 favorites]
I'd wear one - which in itself means that they might not be that rational.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 11:27 AM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 11:27 AM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
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posted by The Whelk at 11:27 AM on August 24, 2016 [49 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 11:27 AM on August 24, 2016 [49 favorites]
I've always felt we aren't "living in the future" until a metallic jumpsuit is the standard wardrobe choice.
posted by cmfletcher at 11:28 AM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by cmfletcher at 11:28 AM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
One concept I recently learned about is that is “perspective clash”, which is what happens when an invention encounters circumstances it wasn't designed for and reveals the limits of its investor's perspective; examples given included photographic film and darkroom processes not coping with dark-skinned people, and air conditioning being set at temperatures comfortable to men but not women. One could probably also add a "universal rational clothing" that makes it very inconvenient to pee if one doesn't have a penis to this list of examples.
posted by acb at 11:29 AM on August 24, 2016 [59 favorites]
posted by acb at 11:29 AM on August 24, 2016 [59 favorites]
Ah, yes- the perfect thing to wear next time Kraftwerk goes on tour.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 11:29 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 11:29 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
there's a devo song in here somewhere..
posted by MikeHoegeman at 11:30 AM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by MikeHoegeman at 11:30 AM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
And yet by happy coincidence, jumpsuits are in right now.
I would prefer a skirt and bloomers to a jumpsuit if I had to go with rational dress.
posted by Frowner at 11:33 AM on August 24, 2016 [8 favorites]
I would prefer a skirt and bloomers to a jumpsuit if I had to go with rational dress.
posted by Frowner at 11:33 AM on August 24, 2016 [8 favorites]
I got this tunic recently (LINK WARNING, IT IS GONE NOW, SORRY) and what I love about it most is that with the boxy shape, gray color, and weird overboob piping, it looks like the kind of thing people wear in the future once all life has moved to spaceships.
Also, importantly, it is: comfortable, completely devoid of fiddly things like zippers (who has time to zip up a zipper when yer livin on a spaceship? nobody, that's who), and gives me easy pee access.
posted by phunniemee at 11:37 AM on August 24, 2016 [9 favorites]
Also, importantly, it is: comfortable, completely devoid of fiddly things like zippers (who has time to zip up a zipper when yer livin on a spaceship? nobody, that's who), and gives me easy pee access.
posted by phunniemee at 11:37 AM on August 24, 2016 [9 favorites]
in the future one will ooze oneself from the sleeping chamber straight into the fabric cocoon and thusly slither about safely all day beneath the diminished atmosphere wishing desperately "jumping" was still a thing one could do
and continually dream of a jumpsuit, full of promise
posted by Tevin at 11:37 AM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
and continually dream of a jumpsuit, full of promise
posted by Tevin at 11:37 AM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
I don't like the way those sleeves are rolled. Fold back the sleeve, then straighten it up. There's nothing rational about a bulge of wadded cloth constricting your bicep.
posted by howfar at 11:38 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by howfar at 11:38 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
I've always considered this, trampoline shoes, and flight suits in the genre of SPACESTATION CHIC.
It's what you wear at your self-sufficient geodesic (or better monolithic) dome house with the rest of the Avout. You thereby minimize the time spent on dressing so that you can spend more time observing the stars, drawings geometry problems, and deducing sextants from first principles.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:39 AM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
It's what you wear at your self-sufficient geodesic (or better monolithic) dome house with the rest of the Avout. You thereby minimize the time spent on dressing so that you can spend more time observing the stars, drawings geometry problems, and deducing sextants from first principles.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:39 AM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
LIFEHACKING TIP: no rational jumpsuit to wear? free yourself from the slavery of modern fashion hegemony by duct taping your polo shirt and khakis together at the waist
posted by prize bull octorok at 11:39 AM on August 24, 2016 [53 favorites]
posted by prize bull octorok at 11:39 AM on August 24, 2016 [53 favorites]
Ah, yes- the perfect thing to wear next time Kraftwerk goes on tour.
True. All the examples they show in the article are too clean for a Rammstein concert.
posted by Multicellular Exothermic at 11:40 AM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
True. All the examples they show in the article are too clean for a Rammstein concert.
posted by Multicellular Exothermic at 11:40 AM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
I used to want a jumpsuit because Joel Hodgson looked so nifty in them, and my grandfather looked so serious in his. But that was when I was younger and thought wearing men's clothing made me look cheeky and natty, instead of lumpy and odd. This can certainly be the case with the proper tailoring or a curve-free body, but I can get neither of those.
posted by Countess Elena at 11:40 AM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by Countess Elena at 11:40 AM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
There is nothing rational about that goddamn website layout.
posted by emjaybee at 11:40 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by emjaybee at 11:40 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
Profits from JUMPSUIT will go into a fund to purchase a full page ad in American Vogue. The publication of the ad will mark the end of JUMPSUIT.Everyone needs a hobby.
Anyway, I'd have thought that the Mao suit was the go-to suit for people foregoing the insular logic of self-expression in favor of proletarian bonds.
posted by octobersurprise at 11:40 AM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
I'm ridiculously long-waisted and coveralls never fit me.
posted by octothorpe at 11:43 AM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 11:43 AM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
I'm with the Whelk. There are already rational, light, garments in the world, they are called "tunics" or "caftans" or other names, can be worn with or without trousers, require much less work to size/seam/fit than a jumpsuit, flatter all body types and are comfortable as all get-out. And yes, are easier to use the bathroom in.
My mom once made me what she called a "muumuu" for a nightgown. It was basically two squares of fabric sewn together with the bottom open and small holes for the arms and head. It was awesome. I played at being a ghost or angel, running around with my "wings" fluttering and it was the most comfortable thing I'd ever worn.
posted by emjaybee at 11:47 AM on August 24, 2016 [18 favorites]
My mom once made me what she called a "muumuu" for a nightgown. It was basically two squares of fabric sewn together with the bottom open and small holes for the arms and head. It was awesome. I played at being a ghost or angel, running around with my "wings" fluttering and it was the most comfortable thing I'd ever worn.
posted by emjaybee at 11:47 AM on August 24, 2016 [18 favorites]
I got this tunic recently (LINK WARNING, IT IS GONE NOW, SORRY) and what I love about it most is that with the boxy shape, gray color, and weird overboob piping, it looks like the kind of thing people wear in the future once all life has moved to spaceships.
In my future, everyone wears varying layers of technical merino wool and comfy laceless shoes. It allows you to seamlessly transition from work to play to napping with no need to change.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:47 AM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
In my future, everyone wears varying layers of technical merino wool and comfy laceless shoes. It allows you to seamlessly transition from work to play to napping with no need to change.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:47 AM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
Just joined a new band and I've been thinking about the speed suit as onstage wear - $150 is ridiculous, you can get a Dickies short sleeve jumpsuit for $30 off Amazon.
posted by InfidelZombie at 11:53 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by InfidelZombie at 11:53 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
One could probably also add a "universal rational clothing" that makes it very inconvenient to pee if one doesn't have a penis to this list of examples.
Or be tall. Or be short. Or have a long torso. Or have long legs. It's bad enough getting a dress shirt to fit in the sleeves and the collar at the same time. Jumpsuits add at least 5 or 6 more variables to solve for in order to get a proper fit. As a result, unless someone starts making them bespoke, they will always do their job more poorly than regular shirt and pants.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:54 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
Or be tall. Or be short. Or have a long torso. Or have long legs. It's bad enough getting a dress shirt to fit in the sleeves and the collar at the same time. Jumpsuits add at least 5 or 6 more variables to solve for in order to get a proper fit. As a result, unless someone starts making them bespoke, they will always do their job more poorly than regular shirt and pants.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:54 AM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
Last time it was gray sweatsuits. (Links broken, unfortunately, but you can still enjoy the vintage 2004 snark.)
posted by demonic winged headgear at 11:54 AM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by demonic winged headgear at 11:54 AM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
Last time it was gray sweatsuits.
Hale-Bopp took most of them away.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:57 AM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
Hale-Bopp took most of them away.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:57 AM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
Two things, Wilma on Buck Rogers did jumpsuit right.
If you google, you'll notice most are actually matching 2 piece outfits.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:59 AM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
If you google, you'll notice most are actually matching 2 piece outfits.
posted by leotrotsky at 11:59 AM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
One could probably also add a "universal rational clothing" that makes it very inconvenient to pee if one doesn't have a penis to this list of examples
And yet, this is the creation of two women.
posted by ejs at 12:01 PM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
And yet, this is the creation of two women.
posted by ejs at 12:01 PM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
There are already rational, light, garments in the world, they are called "tunics" or "caftans" or other names, can be worn with or without trousers, require much less work to size/seam/fit than a jumpsuit, flatter all body types and are comfortable as all get-out.
Really, all those Star Trek races who wore tunics as their primary garment knew what was what.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:03 PM on August 24, 2016 [10 favorites]
Really, all those Star Trek races who wore tunics as their primary garment knew what was what.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:03 PM on August 24, 2016 [10 favorites]
The most rational clothes in the world are leggings. They're stretchy, so they accommodate different sizes and shapes, are easy to pull on and take off, and have no fiddly hardware to catch on your other garments. They're quick to make, and you can make them out of fleece or sweat-wicking fabric or whatever you need. They cover your butt and let you run around and climb things. They're lightweight and take up minimal space in your drawer or suitcase. You can layer them if you're cold, and you can tuck them into your boots if you're in tick country. They can be worn by themselves or under skirts/shorts. If you're self-conscious about your stomach or butt, you can just wear a big shirt over your leggings and it's all good. You can get them in black if you can't be bothered with the frivolous irrationality of fashion, or you can get them in wacky prints. LEGGINGS FOR ALL.
posted by Metroid Baby at 12:09 PM on August 24, 2016 [37 favorites]
posted by Metroid Baby at 12:09 PM on August 24, 2016 [37 favorites]
Imagine if you combined leggings with tunics... My god, early-2000s college girls and medieval peasants were right!
posted by tobascodagama at 12:16 PM on August 24, 2016 [36 favorites]
posted by tobascodagama at 12:16 PM on August 24, 2016 [36 favorites]
Yeah I think a jumpsuit is only practical for ~the facts of everyday life~ if it includes that backdoor butt-panel featured in kiddy pajamas.
(Love the look of rompers; will never get one for that reason.)
posted by aperturescientist at 12:19 PM on August 24, 2016
(Love the look of rompers; will never get one for that reason.)
posted by aperturescientist at 12:19 PM on August 24, 2016
plz back the kickstarter for my new rationalist unisex monogarment, the Leggunic. I haven't figured out how you get yourself inside it yet but with sufficient funding I'm pretty sure we can meet that challenge
posted by prize bull octorok at 12:19 PM on August 24, 2016 [9 favorites]
posted by prize bull octorok at 12:19 PM on August 24, 2016 [9 favorites]
Leggings are pretty rational for women, but less so for men. Even if we get past the "X is for women" social pressure that keeps men from wearing certain garments, a tight garment highlighting a guy's package isn't gonna be considered acceptable.
If you think the "leggings aren't pants" warriors were bad, just imagine if men and boys were wearing them.
posted by explosion at 12:20 PM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
If you think the "leggings aren't pants" warriors were bad, just imagine if men and boys were wearing them.
posted by explosion at 12:20 PM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
codpieces, bro. you gotta rock the cod
posted by prize bull octorok at 12:21 PM on August 24, 2016 [23 favorites]
posted by prize bull octorok at 12:21 PM on August 24, 2016 [23 favorites]
For people who really want the jumpsuit experience, we can have tunic/legging combos with concealed zippers around the waist area.
a tight garment highlighting a guy's package isn't gonna be considered acceptable
With sufficiently long tunics, this is less of a problem.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:23 PM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
a tight garment highlighting a guy's package isn't gonna be considered acceptable
With sufficiently long tunics, this is less of a problem.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:23 PM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
Even if we get past the "X is for women" social pressure that keeps men from wearing certain garments, a tight garment highlighting a guy's package isn't gonna be considered acceptable.
See, like, this is what I want. I've had to be self-conscious about my various parts for thirty years. Dudes can take a turn. You can wear a skirt too if you want.
posted by Metroid Baby at 12:25 PM on August 24, 2016 [23 favorites]
See, like, this is what I want. I've had to be self-conscious about my various parts for thirty years. Dudes can take a turn. You can wear a skirt too if you want.
posted by Metroid Baby at 12:25 PM on August 24, 2016 [23 favorites]
a tight garment highlighting a guy's package isn't gonna be considered acceptable.
A whole generation of gay men who rocked the clone look would disagree with you.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:29 PM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
A whole generation of gay men who rocked the clone look would disagree with you.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:29 PM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
As another tall person, my issue with the jumpsuit is that it tends to rather forcibly correct one's posture in a particularly uncomfortable manner.
Nevertheless, for many people my age, both the jumpsuit and track suit will always be associated with a very specific vision of the future.
For those who did not own the Usborne Book of the Future, the descriptions are as follows:
1. A mutant has emerged from the undercity. Apprehensive humans keep their distance as a security sphere prepares to disintegrate the intruder.
2. Gary is creeping on the neighbors again. Gary is a huge perv.
3. A painting of an MS-DOS database UI from 1989. Tacky.
4. Gary's first album went plutonium in 2346.
5. Omnidroid XKX-57 is sick of Gary's voyeurism. It is about to dump a pitcher of mimosas down his back.
6. Roy lost both ears in the Andromeda police-action. Still wears his old uniform. Sad.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 12:33 PM on August 24, 2016 [12 favorites]
Nevertheless, for many people my age, both the jumpsuit and track suit will always be associated with a very specific vision of the future.
For those who did not own the Usborne Book of the Future, the descriptions are as follows:
1. A mutant has emerged from the undercity. Apprehensive humans keep their distance as a security sphere prepares to disintegrate the intruder.
2. Gary is creeping on the neighbors again. Gary is a huge perv.
3. A painting of an MS-DOS database UI from 1989. Tacky.
4. Gary's first album went plutonium in 2346.
5. Omnidroid XKX-57 is sick of Gary's voyeurism. It is about to dump a pitcher of mimosas down his back.
6. Roy lost both ears in the Andromeda police-action. Still wears his old uniform. Sad.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 12:33 PM on August 24, 2016 [12 favorites]
I haven't figured out how you get yourself inside it yet but with sufficient funding I'm pretty sure we can meet that challenge
"Send 149$ (20$ S/H) for a JUMPSUIT to fight mindless consumerism in" really is the best—and by "best" I mean "most insufferable"—thing about JUMPSUIT.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:36 PM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
"Send 149$ (20$ S/H) for a JUMPSUIT to fight mindless consumerism in" really is the best—and by "best" I mean "most insufferable"—thing about JUMPSUIT.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:36 PM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
At least these will be a good marker of who to avoid talking to in coffee shops or on the street.
posted by AFABulous at 12:39 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by AFABulous at 12:39 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
Offer them only in bright orange, and the Police State will be complete.
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:40 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:40 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
I must live in an alternate dream world from you all, because in some of my (fitness-oriented) circles, plenty of guys wear plenty of leggings, and they are very comfortable, very flattering, and inappropriate in all the right ways.
posted by BuddhaInABucket at 12:45 PM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by BuddhaInABucket at 12:45 PM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
Ah yes. "Rationalism" in the grand style of Le Corbusier, where the same kinds aesthetic choices everyone else makes attempt unimpeachability by saying they're the result of form following function unlike all those silly frivolous people who like pretty things and choices.
Almost nothing I do, cooking/gardening/bicycling/work would be made more effective in a white jumpsuit. I would be dirty, sweaty and rumpled almost immediately.
posted by AAALASTAIR at 12:45 PM on August 24, 2016 [11 favorites]
Almost nothing I do, cooking/gardening/bicycling/work would be made more effective in a white jumpsuit. I would be dirty, sweaty and rumpled almost immediately.
posted by AAALASTAIR at 12:45 PM on August 24, 2016 [11 favorites]
Offer them only in bright orange, and the Police State will be complete.
Fun fact: the extras in THX-1138 were already bald because they were recruited from the local Synanon.
in some of my (fitness-oriented) circles, plenty of guys wear plenty of leggings
I own a pair of these.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:50 PM on August 24, 2016
Fun fact: the extras in THX-1138 were already bald because they were recruited from the local Synanon.
in some of my (fitness-oriented) circles, plenty of guys wear plenty of leggings
I own a pair of these.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:50 PM on August 24, 2016
Oh yeah, most guys look totally hot in leggings!
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:57 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:57 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
I mean, I think these people are...not exactly trolling, but not literally suggesting that everyone should wear jumpsuits. I think this is an intervention in the discourse, as the academic snobs say.
That said, it's also an intervention in the discourse that happens to be so on-trend that I could buy a jumpsuit at the Gap if I wanted to. No one ever says "my ideal garment is [something that doesn't make me look cool to avant-garde fashion students], so let's all wear that"; it's always something of the moment.
Like, if I were to say "stretch khakis and a loose-fitting button-front are the most practical garments, because you can bike in them, they are machine-washable, they come in a wide variety of sizes, they are usually cotton and hence breathable and if you buy good-quality ones they will last practically forever, plus the fashion infrastructure exists to manufacture them in the US ", everyone would be all "you want us to wear artisanal Dockers? I don't think so," even though this is far and away the most practical mode of dress that I myself have found.
posted by Frowner at 1:00 PM on August 24, 2016 [15 favorites]
That said, it's also an intervention in the discourse that happens to be so on-trend that I could buy a jumpsuit at the Gap if I wanted to. No one ever says "my ideal garment is [something that doesn't make me look cool to avant-garde fashion students], so let's all wear that"; it's always something of the moment.
Like, if I were to say "stretch khakis and a loose-fitting button-front are the most practical garments, because you can bike in them, they are machine-washable, they come in a wide variety of sizes, they are usually cotton and hence breathable and if you buy good-quality ones they will last practically forever, plus the fashion infrastructure exists to manufacture them in the US ", everyone would be all "you want us to wear artisanal Dockers? I don't think so," even though this is far and away the most practical mode of dress that I myself have found.
posted by Frowner at 1:00 PM on August 24, 2016 [15 favorites]
Lost me at jumpsuits. Going to the WC is ENOUGH of a pain for women. There's 2-3 body functions to consider.
All in all skirt blouse combos, MAYBE dimije if up-skirting could be an issue.
Real rational dress considers real life, not space opera fantasies.
posted by Katjusa Roquette at 1:04 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
All in all skirt blouse combos, MAYBE dimije if up-skirting could be an issue.
Real rational dress considers real life, not space opera fantasies.
posted by Katjusa Roquette at 1:04 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
> Ah yes. "Rationalism" in the grand style of Le Corbusier, where the same kinds aesthetic choices everyone else makes attempt unimpeachability by saying they're the result of form following function unlike all those silly frivolous people who like pretty things and choices.
One of the few consolations of living in the grimdark cyberpunk future is that not only do we have enough perspective now to know that 20th-century ideas of modernity and rationality were almost all either silly or horrible or both, but we've also enough distance to find some of the ways that they're silly super super funny.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 1:04 PM on August 24, 2016 [11 favorites]
One of the few consolations of living in the grimdark cyberpunk future is that not only do we have enough perspective now to know that 20th-century ideas of modernity and rationality were almost all either silly or horrible or both, but we've also enough distance to find some of the ways that they're silly super super funny.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 1:04 PM on August 24, 2016 [11 favorites]
I'm just waiting for the world at large to realize that suspenders make so much more sense than belts. I mean, really.
posted by Faint of Butt at 1:06 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by Faint of Butt at 1:06 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
I wore jumpsuits for work for a number of years and I can attest they are magnificently comfortable and simple if you get ones that fit well. Having to mostly disrobe to pee is a huge disadvantage, though, so I don't think jumpsuits are the way to go. I'm more than happy to entertain tunic/leggings, which held popularity for centuries. Millions of medieval peasants can't be wrong.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 1:14 PM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 1:14 PM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
Tunic over leggings is the salwar kameez solution, and I am almost entirely for it. I usually want sturdier pockets. Pockets in the original style, on a belt of their own to be worn under the gown, would work, but I am indoctrinated by my culture against the fanny-pack. What to do?
Bleg: am nearly sure that one of Vionnet's futurist collaborators (male) developed a Universal Jumpsuit, but I can't find this online. Thonet? Thanet?
posted by clew at 1:17 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
Bleg: am nearly sure that one of Vionnet's futurist collaborators (male) developed a Universal Jumpsuit, but I can't find this online. Thonet? Thanet?
posted by clew at 1:17 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
Flushable shewees and jumpsuits with a special pocket for them?
posted by clew at 1:18 PM on August 24, 2016
posted by clew at 1:18 PM on August 24, 2016
I'm reminded of a moment in one of the Aubreyad books where Stephen Maturin is wearing this hideous brown wool jumpsuit and is all isn't this the most rational garment you've ever seen, Jack? and Jack Aubrey is like jfc Stephen get below decks before the sailors see you or else I'll never hear the end of it
posted by The demon that lives in the air at 1:18 PM on August 24, 2016 [20 favorites]
posted by The demon that lives in the air at 1:18 PM on August 24, 2016 [20 favorites]
if we hit our stretch goals there's gonna be Cargo Leggunics
posted by prize bull octorok at 1:19 PM on August 24, 2016 [8 favorites]
posted by prize bull octorok at 1:19 PM on August 24, 2016 [8 favorites]
I think this is an intervention in the discourse, as the academic snobs say.
If you mean part gag, part cute art project, part grift, then, yes.
posted by octobersurprise at 1:19 PM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
If you mean part gag, part cute art project, part grift, then, yes.
posted by octobersurprise at 1:19 PM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
In the mid 1970s, when i was seven or eight, i really wanted a jumpsuit because of the future/space associations. My mother reluctantly made one for me, but i remember being disappointed that the reality of wearing one did not match the dream.
posted by D.C. at 1:20 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by D.C. at 1:20 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
dang though I would kill to get a good gag slash cute art project slash grift off the ground.
today I learned I respect the Rational Dress Society.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 1:21 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
today I learned I respect the Rational Dress Society.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 1:21 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
I'm just waiting for the world at large to realize that suspenders make so much more sense than belts. I mean, really.
posted by Faint of Butt
Eponysterical?
posted by sebastienbailard at 1:26 PM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by Faint of Butt
Eponysterical?
posted by sebastienbailard at 1:26 PM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
there's a devo song in here somewhere...
Through Being Cool came to mind immediately.
posted by carmicha at 1:32 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
Through Being Cool came to mind immediately.
posted by carmicha at 1:32 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
Sheewees don't solve the inconvenient fact that women can uncontrollably download from 3 out of 4 portals more often than not.
posted by Katjusa Roquette at 1:32 PM on August 24, 2016
posted by Katjusa Roquette at 1:32 PM on August 24, 2016
am nearly sure that one of Vionnet's futurist collaborators (male) developed a Universal Jumpsuit
There's Giacomo Balla's Anti-Neutral suit.
Then there's also "The Futurist Manifesto for the Italian Hat"
In the mid 1970s, when i was seven or eight, i really wanted a jumpsuit ...
What I'm reminded of is when, right after Ghostbusters came out (the old one, kids), one of my college roommates and another friend made themselves Ghostbuster jumpsuits and started wearing them around and my other roommates and I were like "Oh, no, you are not going to the dining hall with us in those things."
posted by octobersurprise at 1:47 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
There's Giacomo Balla's Anti-Neutral suit.
Then there's also "The Futurist Manifesto for the Italian Hat"
"We will create the following types of hat, which throughOne suspects that they might have been keen on the fedora, too.
aesthetic, hygienic, and functional perfection, will serve,
complete, or correct the ideal Italian masculine figure with
emphases on variety, ferocity, dynamic momentum, and lyricism
indebted to the new style of Mussolini: (1) speed hat (for
everyday use); (2) night hat (for evening); (3) sumptuous hat
(for parading); (4) aerial-sportive hat; (5) sun hat; (6) rain
hat; (7) mountaineering hat; (8) marine hat; (9) defense hat;
(10) poetic hat; (11) publicity hat; (12) simultaneous hat;
(13) plastic hat; (14) tactile hat; (15) illuminated-signal hat;
(16) gramophone hat; (17) radiotelephonic hat; (18) therapeutic
hat (resin, camphor, menthol, with a screen that moderates
the cosmic waves); (19) automatic greeting hat (through
a system of infrared rays); (20) an intelligence imparting hat
for the idiots who criticize this manifesto."
In the mid 1970s, when i was seven or eight, i really wanted a jumpsuit ...
What I'm reminded of is when, right after Ghostbusters came out (the old one, kids), one of my college roommates and another friend made themselves Ghostbuster jumpsuits and started wearing them around and my other roommates and I were like "Oh, no, you are not going to the dining hall with us in those things."
posted by octobersurprise at 1:47 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
I pretty sure I don't want any item of clothing that forces me to rub the collar on public restroom floors.
posted by Confess, Fletch at 1:48 PM on August 24, 2016 [10 favorites]
posted by Confess, Fletch at 1:48 PM on August 24, 2016 [10 favorites]
I'm reminded of a moment in one of the Aubreyad books where Stephen Maturin is wearing this hideous brown wool jumpsuit and is all isn't this the most rational garment you've ever seen, Jack? and Jack Aubrey is like jfc Stephen get below decks before the sailors see you or else I'll never hear the end of it
god imagine maturin's 2016 instagram
imagine his tumblr
imagine the snapchats he would send jack
posted by poffin boffin at 1:50 PM on August 24, 2016 [14 favorites]
god imagine maturin's 2016 instagram
imagine his tumblr
imagine the snapchats he would send jack
posted by poffin boffin at 1:50 PM on August 24, 2016 [14 favorites]
ok it seems like there's a lot of interest here in the jumpsuit lifestyle but potty issues remain a sticking point for a lot of you. so I feel like we're inevitably heading in a stillsuit direction here, is everybody else feeling that?
posted by prize bull octorok at 1:54 PM on August 24, 2016 [11 favorites]
posted by prize bull octorok at 1:54 PM on August 24, 2016 [11 favorites]
god imagine maturin's 2016 instagram
I think there's an Ao3 profile with your name on it, poffin boffin...or rather, there could be.
posted by Frowner at 1:54 PM on August 24, 2016
I think there's an Ao3 profile with your name on it, poffin boffin...or rather, there could be.
posted by Frowner at 1:54 PM on August 24, 2016
I see someone's already plugged the shalwar kameez, but I'll do it some more. Simple, versatile, beautiful, and unisex.
(The shalwar, the loose trousers, are basically pajamas— both elements come from Iran.)
posted by zompist at 2:16 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
(The shalwar, the loose trousers, are basically pajamas— both elements come from Iran.)
posted by zompist at 2:16 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
so I feel like we're inevitably heading in a stillsuit direction here, is everybody else feeling that?
Hey, the sleeper must awaken.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:23 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
Hey, the sleeper must awaken.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:23 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
...Cargo Leggunics...
Lando Calrissian's casual clothing brand?
posted by mosk at 2:25 PM on August 24, 2016
Lando Calrissian's casual clothing brand?
posted by mosk at 2:25 PM on August 24, 2016
I can't tell if they're serious or not. I guess that means it's a successful art project?
I was just looking at jumpsuits on amazon the other day and falling prey to the fantasy that you really could just throw one thing on your body every day and have it look good and make sense and keep you warm & comfy. Unfortunately there's a good reason why most people wear something that pulls down or up at the waist and it's not cause they're conformists/sheeple.
posted by bleep at 2:32 PM on August 24, 2016
I was just looking at jumpsuits on amazon the other day and falling prey to the fantasy that you really could just throw one thing on your body every day and have it look good and make sense and keep you warm & comfy. Unfortunately there's a good reason why most people wear something that pulls down or up at the waist and it's not cause they're conformists/sheeple.
posted by bleep at 2:32 PM on August 24, 2016
god imagine maturin's 2016 instagram
imagine his tumblr
imagine the snapchats he would send jack
This is the best idea I have read all day and I am so happy right now picturing this.
posted by winna at 2:41 PM on August 24, 2016
imagine his tumblr
imagine the snapchats he would send jack
This is the best idea I have read all day and I am so happy right now picturing this.
posted by winna at 2:41 PM on August 24, 2016
I would prefer a skirt and bloomers to a jumpsuit if I had to go with rational dress.
They'll be back, these things come and go in cycles.
posted by carter at 2:48 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
They'll be back, these things come and go in cycles.
posted by carter at 2:48 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
jumpsuits are the soylent of clothing
posted by leotrotsky at 2:50 PM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 2:50 PM on August 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
all your arms and boobs
You are... Kali?... AICMFP?
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 2:51 PM on August 24, 2016
You are... Kali?... AICMFP?
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 2:51 PM on August 24, 2016
It's an art project making a statement about the fashion industry. My wife and I had many words on this and my feeling about the whole thing is that it feels eerily similar to the same line of thinking people have about abolishing gender. It's even got that "trend to the masculine" thing going on. Overall I think the project is a little weak and lacking an intersectional perspective, but I can see what their overall aim is and while I don't fault their principle idea I do have criticisms of the execution.
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:55 PM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:55 PM on August 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
jumpsuits are the soylent of clothing
Absolutely. I mean, the creator of Soylent also wears/evangelizes jumpsuits: "I found a Nomex flight suit on Alibaba and added a “Soylent” patch. I love it. It’s cheap, simple, comfortable, and fireproof, just in case."
posted by thefoxgod at 3:07 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
Absolutely. I mean, the creator of Soylent also wears/evangelizes jumpsuits: "I found a Nomex flight suit on Alibaba and added a “Soylent” patch. I love it. It’s cheap, simple, comfortable, and fireproof, just in case."
posted by thefoxgod at 3:07 PM on August 24, 2016 [4 favorites]
one of the really fascinating things about living in the Bay Area is that I think I know three guys who are about as weird as the soylent guy, and weird in more or less the same way.
sometimes I feel uncomfortable if I can't find a version of That Guy around, because I'm afraid that if I can't see someone being That Guy, that means that in that social context, I'm That Guy.
also octobersurprise is right mao suits are way better than jumpsuits.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 3:22 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
sometimes I feel uncomfortable if I can't find a version of That Guy around, because I'm afraid that if I can't see someone being That Guy, that means that in that social context, I'm That Guy.
also octobersurprise is right mao suits are way better than jumpsuits.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 3:22 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
For my part, I'm eyeing the pyjama-dressing trend and praying that it lasts.
posted by peripathetic at 3:22 PM on August 24, 2016
posted by peripathetic at 3:22 PM on August 24, 2016
The founder of Soylent wore a Nomex jumpsuit so he wouldn't have to wash it, as part of a project to reduce his water consumption. Which also meant not bathing and messing with his gut bacteria in an attempt to stop pooping. I would have hated to be within smellable range when he unzipped that puppy.
posted by ejs at 3:25 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by ejs at 3:25 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
What are they thinking, placing pictures of Infrared citizens next to Ultraviolet citizens? Friend Computer will NOT be pleased by this work of commie mutant traitors.
posted by happyroach at 4:06 PM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by happyroach at 4:06 PM on August 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
These disposable Tyvek coveralls are the only rational way to dress.
posted by chrchr at 5:35 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by chrchr at 5:35 PM on August 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
I have a jumpsuit (though I've always called them boiler suits) that I bought at the ranch supply store. It is perfect for when you have to spend the afternoon in the crawlspace with flaking insulation and lots of spiders. I have even wrapped tape around the wrists and ankles for extra bug prevention.
So I am down with the functional side of things, but it just doesn't scratch any itches for me in terms of fashion.
posted by Dip Flash at 6:19 PM on August 24, 2016
So I am down with the functional side of things, but it just doesn't scratch any itches for me in terms of fashion.
posted by Dip Flash at 6:19 PM on August 24, 2016
YO I saw a dude on the train wearing a thawb today and he looked both fly and comfy. Bring on Sharia Law Caesar Hillary I beg you.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 7:34 PM on August 24, 2016
posted by Potomac Avenue at 7:34 PM on August 24, 2016
HEY SUP happy Eid want to listen to house music cool
posted by Potomac Avenue at 7:37 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Potomac Avenue at 7:37 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
As a guy I would wear a skirt long before I'd even consider leggings, which kind of give me the creeps even thinking about. I'd actually not mind the work kilt thing that never caught on, but even I have a threshold for being mocked in public.
posted by bongo_x at 8:34 PM on August 24, 2016
posted by bongo_x at 8:34 PM on August 24, 2016
why choose when you can have skirt AND leggings
posted by en forme de poire at 8:45 PM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by en forme de poire at 8:45 PM on August 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
also would be fine w/ the chlamys making a comeback
posted by en forme de poire at 8:49 PM on August 24, 2016
posted by en forme de poire at 8:49 PM on August 24, 2016
I sort of want them to publish their sizing system though
posted by vibratory manner of working at 9:03 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by vibratory manner of working at 9:03 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
why choose when you can have skirt AND leggings
No, it's the actual wearing of the leggings that freaks me out.
posted by bongo_x at 9:14 PM on August 24, 2016
No, it's the actual wearing of the leggings that freaks me out.
posted by bongo_x at 9:14 PM on August 24, 2016
The only real way to eschew fashion is to refuse to talk about what other people are wearing.
posted by straight at 10:45 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by straight at 10:45 PM on August 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
Ah yes. "Rationalism" in the grand style of Le Corbusier, where the same kinds aesthetic choices everyone else makes attempt unimpeachability by saying they're the result of form following function unlike all those silly frivolous people who like pretty things and choices.
Also the dude who defined "rational" architecture as being based on the body of a white Frenchman. The height was later modified with this totally inclusive rationale: Whilst initially the Modulor Man's height was based on a French man's height of 1.75 metres (5 ft 9 in) it was changed to 1.83 m in 1946 because "in English detective novels, the good-looking men, such as policemen, are always six feet tall!"
posted by fraula at 2:10 AM on August 25, 2016 [4 favorites]
Also the dude who defined "rational" architecture as being based on the body of a white Frenchman. The height was later modified with this totally inclusive rationale: Whilst initially the Modulor Man's height was based on a French man's height of 1.75 metres (5 ft 9 in) it was changed to 1.83 m in 1946 because "in English detective novels, the good-looking men, such as policemen, are always six feet tall!"
posted by fraula at 2:10 AM on August 25, 2016 [4 favorites]
messing with his gut bacteria in an attempt to stop pooping
good, because jumpsuits make pooping an ordeal
posted by ryanrs at 2:11 AM on August 25, 2016 [2 favorites]
good, because jumpsuits make pooping an ordeal
posted by ryanrs at 2:11 AM on August 25, 2016 [2 favorites]
I have a pair of leggings that I wore in the depths of Western PA winters when I was training for a half marathon but I'd never want to wear them if the temperature was above twenty degrees Fahrenheit.
posted by octothorpe at 4:03 AM on August 25, 2016
posted by octothorpe at 4:03 AM on August 25, 2016
These disposable Tyvek coveralls are the only rational way to dress.
I bought some of those to donate to cleanup crews in Louisiana. Doing my part for rational fashion.
posted by Foosnark at 5:53 AM on August 25, 2016 [1 favorite]
I bought some of those to donate to cleanup crews in Louisiana. Doing my part for rational fashion.
posted by Foosnark at 5:53 AM on August 25, 2016 [1 favorite]
Having to mostly disrobe to pee is a huge disadvantage, though, so I don't think jumpsuits are the way to go.
Depends.
posted by y2karl at 7:47 AM on August 25, 2016 [5 favorites]
Depends.
posted by y2karl at 7:47 AM on August 25, 2016 [5 favorites]
No, it's the actual wearing of the leggings that freaks me out.
Just think of it like your legs getting a hug all day long!
posted by phunniemee at 8:13 AM on August 25, 2016
Just think of it like your legs getting a hug all day long!
posted by phunniemee at 8:13 AM on August 25, 2016
These disposable Tyvek coveralls are the only rational way to dress.
Sold by the Each!
posted by adamgreenfield at 10:42 AM on August 25, 2016
Sold by the Each!
posted by adamgreenfield at 10:42 AM on August 25, 2016
Found it! .THAYAHT. published patterns for the TuTa jumpsuit in 1919, near the beginning of a run of futurist jumpsuits.
It's quite a clever pattern, wasting very little cloth and using the selvedges as the main front opening.
posted by clew at 12:38 PM on August 25, 2016 [2 favorites]
It's quite a clever pattern, wasting very little cloth and using the selvedges as the main front opening.
posted by clew at 12:38 PM on August 25, 2016 [2 favorites]
Why would you need this when BetaBrand already has the Suitsy in Stock?
posted by OnceUponATime at 12:08 PM on August 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by OnceUponATime at 12:08 PM on August 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
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