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February 16, 2017 1:49 PM   Subscribe

The first episode (content warning: tarantulas) of the TV Show based on the podcast My Brother, My Brother And Me has dropped. What's MBMBAM, other than "an advice show for the modren era"? Well there's this long and very thoughtful meditation on the McElroy Brothers' brand of goofy kind humor. Or you could find out from the fans directly. Or just listen to some classic bits like Amelie, I Hate You, Ron, or Tim McGraw's Krav Maga.

It's also Lin Manuel Miranda's favorite podcast, and he guested on the show pre-Hamilton. He continues to be their biggest fan, making references almost every time he's on TV and posting regularly in the Facebook group.

MBMBAM is just part of the ever-expanding McElroy Content Universe, which also includes Monster Factory ("Just like Bart!"), The Adventure Zone (a favorite among comic book artists and writers), and Griffin's Amiibo Corner (a 30 Under 30 Media Luminary sticks toys in his mouth).
posted by kmz (94 comments total) 49 users marked this as a favorite
 
The fact that the other two brothers don't look like clones of Justin like I thought they would is messing up my head.
posted by Space Coyote at 1:56 PM on February 16 [2 favorites]


Who knows what lurks beneath that beard.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:57 PM on February 16


Other highlights of The Mcelroy Empire:

- Car Boys, a surreal exploration of a car sandbox featuring Griffin and Nick Robinson
- Coolgames Inc, a podcast where Griffin and Nick come up with the Best game ideas
- Rose Buddies, a podcast where Griffin and his wife Rachel talk about The Bachelor and vaguely related shows
- Sawbones, a podcast where Dr Sydnee McElroy and her husband Justin talk about various parts historical medicine

There's a bunch of others, but those are the ones I most dedicatedly follow that aren't specifically singled out in the post. The brothers and their extended family are just all fantastic at comedy and it's just a wonderful bright spot in what's otherwise kind of dark times.
posted by flatluigi at 2:00 PM on February 16 [8 favorites]


This is my favorite thing right now. I have a problem, though. I have always, always listened to podcasts starting from the beginning. I have never before found a podcast 5+ years after it started.

I'm still in March 2012. Every time they reference the president, I want to cry. But it's good. It's so good. I can't not listen to the backlog!

I just need to find time for an extra 5-6 episodes a day...
posted by Sequence at 2:01 PM on February 16 [7 favorites]


My love for the brothers is so deep that my supremely arachnophobic ass watched the whole episode front to back, only flinching once or twice. But your mileage may vary.
posted by kmz at 2:01 PM on February 16


I heart these boys, and I love that LMM loves them too. They deserve to have a friend who will give them shoutouts in major network shows.

I'm not much of a gamer these days, but I have just found that CoolGames delivers almost as much hysterical laughter to me as MBMBaM. (Briefly: a plumber accidentally orders a whole bunch of toilet paper in the middle of a podcast)
posted by Countess Elena at 2:04 PM on February 16 [6 favorites]


These guys are great and it warms my damn heart to see how much joy they bring a lot of my friends.

Alas, I have a hard limit on how much McElroy Content I can consume because the brothers' close friendship and easy camaraderie becomes too upsetting for me to deal with—I have never shared anything like that with my own siblings or parents, nor does it seem likely that I will, and it's something I try not to dwell on.

(It's their cool nicknames that really twist the knife. I wanted a cool nickname so bad as a kid, but we were far too unhappy a family for anything like that.)
posted by Sokka shot first at 2:10 PM on February 16 [11 favorites]


This is excellent, how have I not heard of these guys before?!!? Loving this first episode.
posted by Fizz at 2:13 PM on February 16


Yeah, I think of that sometimes too, Sokka. I have warm parents but no siblings, and couldn't get close to other kids for a while. I always wanted someone to tease and play rough with. Still, it makes me happy to see people who still have that relationship when they're grown; certainly, nobody has any guarantee of it when the genetic dice are rolled.
posted by Countess Elena at 2:16 PM on February 16 [2 favorites]


I'm still in March 2012. Every time they reference the president, I want to cry. But it's good. It's so good. I can't not listen to the backlog!

Me too. Just yesterday I was listening and they made reference to the Republican Convention. I was waiting for something really acerbic, but they made a joke about how drinking too many Romneycoladas makes you boring. My sigh was so sad a cat would have wandered over and offered me comfort.
posted by straight at 2:25 PM on February 16 [5 favorites]


But it's a pretty great feeling to discover a podcast you find really entertaining and then discover it has 300 back-episodes. (I'm actually in 2013 around Ep160 but was listening yesterday to an earlier episode I'd downloaded by mistake.)
posted by straight at 2:31 PM on February 16 [1 favorite]


I resisted this particular content gravity well for a very long time, aside from the occasional episode of Monster Factory. It was The Adventure Zone that eventually did me in. Previously, I'd bounced VERY HARD off of the entire concept of listening to three white straight brothers make jokes at each other for an hour? But as I worked my way through the TAZ archive, and as they themselves started to take that project more seriously and interact with its narrative more sincerely, I ended up warming up to them as folks. Such that last night I sat and watched the first episode of their show -- these three complete strangers and their dad, makers of a COMEDY ADVICE PODCAST -- and was genuinely happy to see them all having a nice time together.

Although I will say that my personal favorite part was when they sat in a minivan and forced themselves to make terrifying professional calls on camera. My online circles hit pretty intense McElroy saturation over the summer, and it was nice to have a reminder that these dudes are just...some dudes. They're some guys who have been making funny podcasts long enough to have built up a following, but they still have to psyche themselves up to try and call Ellen's agent.
posted by Narrative Priorities at 2:32 PM on February 16 [8 favorites]


I mean, I've listened to like 90 episodes in the last few weeks, and I keep being told that this is my oldest brother, my middlest brother, and my baby brother, and would they lie to me? I'm glad to have some family I don't hate, for once.
posted by Sequence at 2:32 PM on February 16 [7 favorites]


The most underappreciated McElroy talent is somehow making a SquareSpace ad funny and engaging and then doing it a thousand more times.
posted by theodolite at 2:52 PM on February 16 [17 favorites]


Interestingly the reason why I have to put a hard limit on my McElroy listening is because otherwise "boy" gradually becomes my go-to all-purpose noun
posted by DoctorFedora at 3:03 PM on February 16 [15 favorites]


Man... I must subscribe to 200 podcasts, and listen to dozens of them daily...... I CANNOT STAND the brothers, no need to list all the reasons but WOW are they charmed by themselves, ugh.

So many people like them, I keep on trying... no go.
posted by Cosine at 3:05 PM on February 16 [3 favorites]


theodolite: That reminds me of one of my favorite bits! For the longest time on early MBMBAM they had an advertiser called Extreme Restraints which is exactly what you could probably guess - a bondage and sex toy supplier. The ad breaks for it were generally pretty hilarious, but one day something special happened. That day: Candlenights.

(for the uninitiated: Candlenights is their winter holiday special, which they always try to make as family-friendly as possible. No swearing, and usually nothing too off-the-wall that you'd regret playing for your parents during the holidays. This has, uh, complications when you're advertising sex toys. But they make it work.)
posted by flatluigi at 3:08 PM on February 16 [7 favorites]


I resisted this particular content gravity well for a very long time, aside from the occasional episode of Monster Factory. It was The Adventure Zone that eventually did me in. Previously, I'd bounced VERY HARD off of the entire concept of listening to three white straight brothers make jokes at each other for an hour?

It was the exact same for me. I'd tried MBMBAM a couple times, both times starting with the first episode, and while I found it pleasant enough, I mostly just thought, "these three dudes sound the same and they're not really uniquely funny or anything and I'm not seeing why I should stick with it." But then November 8 happened, and desperate for literally any fucking escape from how absolutely awful I felt, I took up a friend on their rec to listen to the MBMBAM Anxiety Free Cruise episode, which was honest to god an incredible balm to me on November 9. Because it was funny in a sweetly absurd and entirely good-natured way, and it actually made me laugh, during a week that was honestly one of the worst of my life.

I tried Adventure Zone basically immediately after that, and while the first episode of that does get a little boring at times, because they're talking about D&D rules I don't care about, it was still fun and engaging, and The Adventure Zone proceeded to be a perfect little oasis of joy for me, and far more narratively complex and engaging than I'd ever expected it to be.

Since then I've branched out into assorted other parts of the McElroy Content Universe, and I haven't been disappointed yet. You don't realize how much you unconsciously tense up against humor that makes you feel shitty or angry in some way, until you're exposed to a bunch of it that almost never, ever does. Apart from some goofs that were a little too gross-out for me, or some that just didn't hit, I don't think I've ever had a single moment of having that depressing or enraging moment of "oh, right, this content is really not for me and actually kind of hates me/doesn't care about me." It's just such a nice reprieve to be free of that for the space of one silly podcast.
posted by yasaman at 3:08 PM on February 16 [13 favorites]


This made my bim-bam day!
posted by triage_lazarus at 3:11 PM on February 16 [1 favorite]


Also, re Car Boys and Monster Factory: I never anticipated finding these as funny as I do, but holy shit, I have ended up doubled over with tears of gasping laughter while watching some episodes. So if you're like me and think, "how funny could a couple dudes messing with a driving/physics simulator and/or character creators possibly be?" do yourself a favor and give them a shot.
posted by yasaman at 3:12 PM on February 16 [4 favorites]


yasaman: Yeah, that's what keeps me coming back -- not only are the brothers mcelroy very genuine in a sea of tired ironic humor but they also make honest effort to stay welcoming and loving to their fans. It's really great to have such a constant and consistent source of humor without having to worry about something dark and hateful hiding around a corner. I've been burnt by that too many times in other ways over the years and it's so refreshing to not have to stress like that when I'm seeking a respite from the world.
posted by flatluigi at 3:13 PM on February 16 [4 favorites]


My strategy for McElroys was to listen the most recent and work my way *backwards* from there. It's a little weird because there are some repeat goofs they come back to but it worked for me. The pre-Maximum Fun episodes are a little rough (both in terms of audio quality and maybe because their white-dude-ness shines through a bit more; I think one strength of the show is that they've improved how they talk about things outside their own experience since they started).

I really liked the first episode of the show. Don't do a hit.
posted by dismas at 3:37 PM on February 16 [2 favorites]


Yeah, even some of the early post Maximum Fun episodes can be a bit rough, but there's still great bits in there. The long article is great and talks a lot about their evolution and how they try to be more inclusive.
posted by kmz at 3:46 PM on February 16 [1 favorite]


(The turning point was furries.)
posted by kmz at 3:52 PM on February 16 [1 favorite]


I look forward to The Adventure Zone and Car Boys more than any TV show right now. I religiously watch/listen the day they come out.
posted by showbiz_liz at 3:53 PM on February 16 [4 favorites]


(Also, having seen the episode, Travis' beard-plus-nail-polish combo is surprisingly hot (sorry 2 objectify))
posted by showbiz_liz at 3:54 PM on February 16 [7 favorites]


Well, now I want a rancho.
posted by drezdn at 4:24 PM on February 16 [2 favorites]


Yessssssss! I completely forgot that this was released yesterday. I love the McElroy brothers, their extended family, and all of their modren podcasts!
posted by rogerrogerwhatsyourrvectorvicto at 4:45 PM on February 16


By the way, does Justin ever directly address why he says "modren" 8 out of 10 times in the intro?
posted by rogerrogerwhatsyourrvectorvicto at 4:46 PM on February 16


I don't know if they can actually do it in the TV show format but I'm waiting for one of these episodes to stop mid-story by Justin dropping an I WANNA MUNCH
posted by jason_steakums at 4:58 PM on February 16 [5 favorites]


Needs "GREATJOB" tag.
posted by tzikeh at 5:08 PM on February 16 [12 favorites]


I don't believe Justin ever addresses that, no. Maybe he just likes Styx.
posted by DoctorFedora at 5:13 PM on February 16 [3 favorites]


Squad
posted by drezdn at 5:18 PM on February 16 [9 favorites]


rogerrogerwhatsyourrvectorvicto, I'm not sure I can dig up the specific instance. But I seem to recall that it's because he flubbed it in the first episode, and decided to just keep saying "modren" from then on.
posted by X-Himy at 6:07 PM on February 16 [1 favorite]


I might just subscribe to this streaming service just for these guys. I love MBMBAM and Monster Factory.
posted by brundlefly at 6:13 PM on February 16 [1 favorite]


But then November 8 happened, and desperate for literally any fucking escape from how absolutely awful I felt...

Heh. My coping tactic was to queue up all the Adventure Zone episodes I had yet to hear, about six hours' worth, and just walk and walk and walk. Made that first day endurable.
posted by Iridic at 6:59 PM on February 16 [2 favorites]


The brotherliness of the brothers is wow so much more apparent in visual format on the show. It's both hilarious and sweet. I mean from Justin doing the exact big brother thing to piss Travis off, to Travis hitting him (DON'T DO A HIT), to Justin being 10000% the oldest "this is okay, I am your big brother and I am here" brother thing when Griffin and Travis let the tarantula on their hands, to Griffin and Justin clutching at Travis and chanting encouraging nonsense as Travis faced his spider fears, to Griffin immediately tattling on Travis to their dad for hitting Justin. Delightful.
posted by yasaman at 7:37 PM on February 16 [12 favorites]


I first heard Justin McElroy on the Idle Thumbs video games podcast (a podcast I think MeFites and McElroy fans who are gamers would likely enjoy).

I thought Justin was very entertaining and typed his name into Google thinking, "I wonder if he's been on any other podcasts?"
posted by straight at 7:39 PM on February 16 [7 favorites]


The Good Goof Boys get one of my very few "white guys talking" podcast slots, and there have been points in the past few months where they (and Travis specifically) have been sources of real comfort on the show and Twitter. (Sawbones, one of my favorite podcasts, I've had to skip lately even though I 100% admire Sydnee and Justin's willingness to Go There.)

I watched this episode today and burst into tears when Clint (their dad, who does the disclaimer/intro on the podcast and show) said "What's up, you cool baby?" so if I thought I was mostly okay lately I don't think I am.

Because I'm not really into video games, I had held out on Monster Factory until I found out that one of my friends' vanity plate is actually a variation on "Final Pam" and she tried to explain what that meant and I was so baffled I had to watch and I was hooked. (METAL HUSBAND!)
posted by Lyn Never at 7:39 PM on February 16 [5 favorites]


Clint (their dad, who does the disclaimer/intro on the podcast and show)

Thank you for that amazing bit of information I did not know.
posted by straight at 7:43 PM on February 16


Just show, right? Podcast is Bob Ball, I think?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 8:05 PM on February 16 [4 favorites]


Wait, no, their dad only does the intro/disclaimer for live shows. On the podcast it's Bob Ball.
posted by DoctorFedora at 8:06 PM on February 16 [1 favorite]


Uhh, now I'm not sure. I had thought it was always Clint but I'm not a completist so I could be wrong about the podcast.
posted by Lyn Never at 8:07 PM on February 16


FUCK YEAH JOHNNY COME LATELY MAKES GOOOOOOODDDD
posted by robocop is bleeding at 8:09 PM on February 16


Was just about to post about Bob Ball, but instead I'll leave this delightfully uncomfortable (slightly NSFW) clip from a bonus episode with Clint: Daddy Issues.
posted by kmz at 8:10 PM on February 16 [4 favorites]


Some people I follow we very infatuated by Monster Factory about a year ago and I too bounced off it. But Adventure Zone is what sucked me in. Then Car Boys, MBMBaM, Touch The Skyrim, I was ate it all up. They seem like good guys, and quickly fess up to any stumbles. They as a clan produce SO MUCH CONTENT. I'm sure they've got other people editing and book and and producing and all the rest, but there's only so many hours in a day. How the hell does Griffin, for example, do all these podcasts and find time for doing a complete playthrough of Pokemon Y (with Dead = Dead rules thrown in) AND manage to find time for starting a family, much less sleeping.
posted by thecjm at 8:10 PM on February 16


Someone at work has the Thomas the Tank Engine Toot-Toot as their phone alert noise, so thanks to Touch the Skyrim I look up every time.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 8:15 PM on February 16 [6 favorites]




I've been looking forward to this for ages, and it's so nice not to be disappointed. If the rest of the series is half as good as the rancho episode, it's gonna be one for the ages.

I'm throwing a release watch party next Thursday. Memail me if you're in NYC and wanna watch some MBMBAM with a dozen strangers.
posted by Itaxpica at 9:06 PM on February 16


I'm one of the people that doesn't 'get' MBMBAM- and I've been trying intermittently for years. But that Adventure Zone - Flop House crossover got me hooked in the Mcelverse, and, oh, god the rabbit hole keeps going down and down. And having said that I'm going to fall asleep as I have for the past five or six months by putting on an episode of CGI.
posted by wotsac at 10:00 PM on February 16 [3 favorites]


I'm sure they've got other people editing and book and and producing and all the rest

Griffin definitely edits at least The Adventure Zone and Monster Factory and Touch The Skryim, possibly also MBMBAM but I'm not sure. He's definitely talked about how long it takes to edit TAZ. (But also of course, his Media Empire of all this stuff plus Polygon is his entire job, so he's got the time!)
posted by showbiz_liz at 10:05 PM on February 16


Griffin edits MBMBaM, Justin steps in when he can't. He's a busy boy!
posted by jason_steakums at 10:37 PM on February 16


Re: modren, can't find the reference on my phone but at some point in the past Justin has said he was in a play where one of the actors pronounced it that way every performance, and it stuck for them. Basically it's an inside joke among the Bros. McElroy, which, when you realize they've been doing it that way since the single digit episodes, is kind of adorable in its commitment.

Been a fan of MBMBaM since before it was on Max Fun, have followed the boys on about 85% of the content they generate. They've been a source of real joy in my life, and I'm so happy they got a chance to do this. I have to wait to watch the full episode of the show until I can really savor it.
posted by penduluum at 11:19 PM on February 16


I'm gettin some yuck waves
posted by Joseph Gurl at 11:33 PM on February 16 [1 favorite]


Nothing on the internet has made me laugh as long or as hard on repeated viewings as Monster Factory. It's the one thing I don't watch at work because I can't pretend I'm working while crying with laughter.

I was really into MBMBAM for a long time but have faded away recently, I think because the quality of Yahoo Answers material has gone down. What with them being a finite resource now, I think they've mined the well dry (how is metaphor formed?). That said, I enjoyed this show and I think the change of format might freshen things up a bit. I laughed the hardest at the stupid Facebook post blast off into cybersex Joe Biden.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 2:03 AM on February 17 [1 favorite]


I've been hacked!
posted by EndsOfInvention at 2:03 AM on February 17 [1 favorite]


This is so funny I laughed until I cried. Oh thank you for telling us about this.
posted by winna at 4:46 AM on February 17 [2 favorites]


Uhh, now I'm not sure. I had thought it was always Clint but I'm not a completist so I could be wrong about the podcast.

It's Clint on Sawbones, which may be why the confusion arises. Definitely Bob Ball on MBMBAM podcast.
posted by howfar at 5:04 AM on February 17 [1 favorite]


Not much to add other than that I love that this post exists. It's a nexus of my three things that make me very happy: the McElverse, Metafilter & LMM.
posted by moons in june at 7:24 AM on February 17 [3 favorites]


Oh god. Only realized on my second watch that the marching band is playing "Itsy Bitsy Spider" during the ranchos parade.
posted by punchtothehead at 7:39 AM on February 17 [3 favorites]


I love everything McElroy, and of course I loved the first episode of the show and I need to subscribe to Seeso in the next week.

Griffin's Amiibo Corner is mentioned in the OP and I just wanted to plug that for anyone who hasn't seen it, because it is the most wonderful and stupid and funny thing I've ever seen.

(See also Things I Bought at Sheetz, previously on MetaFilter, which is Justin and Dwight Slappe's food review quiz show unlike any other.)
posted by minsies at 8:14 AM on February 17 [1 favorite]


I cannot get my partner into the McElverse, or really podcasts more generally, but last week I introduced him to Amelie and for whatever reason, that one stuck. It has upped the household glee quotient like a solid 30%. #GreatJob, good good goof boys!
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 9:19 AM on February 17 [3 favorites]


Was just about to post about Bob Ball, but instead I'll leave this delightfully uncomfortable (slightly NSFW) clip from a bonus episode with Clint: Daddy Issues.

I am a huge McElroys nerd and have been for years and I have never heard Justin melt down to that level before, not even during the infamous Merle-sweettalking-the-vines TAZ bit. Thanks for making me cry with laughter at work.
posted by WidgetAlley at 9:54 AM on February 17 [4 favorites]


> Griffin edits MBMBaM, Justin steps in when he can't

I don't think they do any more -- there have been a few times recently where they've mentioned someone else editing it. Of course, just because they say something doesn't mean it's actually true in this universe.
posted by The corpse in the library at 4:31 PM on February 17


there have been a few times recently where they've mentioned someone else editing it

I don't think it has ever been seriously suggested on the podcast that anyone else is in charge of editing it. Also, given that editing it is one of the most important parts of the process, I'd be pretty surprised if they'd outsourced it to someone else, especially without credit.
posted by howfar at 4:52 PM on February 17


I'm catching up from the beginning between new episodes and in the early 200s and they try to goof about a producer editing it but Justin and Travis simultaneously give the different names "Scott" and "Jerry" as producer and immediately get caught.
posted by jason_steakums at 5:12 PM on February 17 [3 favorites]


I had zero prep for my first listen of MBMBAM, just was trying out a bunch of comedy podcasts last summer, and the first episode started with an extended goof on some movie I had not seen. At the time I did not know they did extended goofs, I just thought they were describing a real movie and it sounded terrible. I don't know why I persevered, but I did and boy am I glad. They have given me some big laughs during a very dark time line. I love the junk food press releases and I still love the yahoo questions. All the new babies, the wives, the closeness of the brothers does make the shows feel sweet and wholesome in a good way.

I've given most of the other shows a try and none of them have really caught me although I still listen to Sawbones now and then. The worst show (and I think the one I was most excited about) was the one about the law, Court Appointed. Super dull and slow, like an old fart at the nursing home telling you stories.

I think my least favorite MBMBAM episodes have been the live shows. Somehow the chemistry is off and there is too much time spent on the audience feedback.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 5:54 PM on February 17


I've never been able to get into the McElroy podcasts, but this show was hilarious and perfect.
posted by Emily's Fist at 8:34 PM on February 17 [1 favorite]


this subplot with the Mayor is honestly filling a hole in my heart where Parks and Rec lived.

"Tarantula parade! We promise no tarantulas will be there."
posted by Emily's Fist at 8:48 PM on February 17 [3 favorites]


RE: Editing

IIRC, there was someone else editing the show while they were working on the Seeso episodes, but I don't know if Griffin is back to doing it.
posted by drezdn at 11:00 AM on February 18


I bring two things: One, a preview trailer for the rest of the Seeso series, and two, this new interview with the brothers. A really good excerpt:
Griffin: You f--k up a whole lot when you start doing a podcast, and you hear from people who really, really, really like you, who let you know very politely that you hurt their feelings and ostracized them, and then you stop doing it. And then after enough of those, you kind of stop doing it to everybody, or you try your f--king best to. Literally, that’s it. I think it’s easy to get defensive, but I just always felt so miserable when I heard, “I’m a big fan of yours and you hurt my feelings."

Travis: When someone tells you, “Hey, what you just did hurt me,” you have two options. One is to say like, “You’re wrong, and I didn’t do anything wrong.” Or your other option is to say, “Okay, well if you feel that way, let me take a step back and really look at what I did.” Do that second one every time.
It's a lesson I really wish more people in media would learn.
posted by flatluigi at 10:42 AM on February 20 [11 favorites]


If I hadn't been uber-busy this whole weekend I might be ashamed that I've only seen this post today.

I am a huge McElroy fan and have been listening since ... at least 2011? I've been to two live shows: one in Seattle, and the other in Huntington last year for Candlenights which was, I kid you not, a semi-religious experience.

I begged my wife to make the 3 hour drive from Columbus to Huntington and she relented. She has never listened to the podcast before, but knew that I was a fan because I often reference their material (eg, my daughter calls me her "good good daddy") constantly.

Anyway, my wife hates people talking while in the car. I didn't want her to have a negative impression of the Brothers before the live show, so I spent way too much mental energy deciding which episodes to play for her. I landed on "The Brain Wife" and "Wolf School." She laughed a ton, and I was relieved.

The show itself was also awesome! The Brothers came out before the show and shook the hands of every. Single. Person. Who was waiting in line. They stopped and talked to people, they took pictures, they accepted gifts. For a bunch of boys who purport social paralysis they were in the mix with fans until they were literally wrangled into the theater by their producer.

Anyway. There's a special place in my heart for the McElBoys. I have been a little anxious to see how the show would turn out but I think this first episode captures their essence perfectly. Can't wait to watch the rest.
posted by Tevin at 12:18 PM on February 20 [6 favorites]


I have been listening to the Tim McGraw's Krav Maga clip every day since this thread went up! I just love it.

However, I haven't been able to get into anything else that I have heard from MBMBAM, it fills me with un. Un-examined privilege, un-adventurous, unaware. Just un.

But I'll still listen to the Tim McGraw's Krav Maga every day.
posted by asok at 12:48 AM on February 21


Un-examined privilege, un-adventurous, unaware. Just un.

Of all the White Dude Podcast I've listened to, the McElroys are the ones who seem to go out of their way to examine their privilege. This article talks about it a lot.

Griffin and his brothers express discomfort with the idea of people going back and listening to early episodes, as completists and longtime fans who are writing magazine articles are prone to do. He said, “There’s no part of me that can listen to that old stuff and not think, ‘God, I was so mean spirited.’ To say those things and to not even think about it? It’s ignorant but it’s also just shitty.” Justin told me, “I think we’ve always tried to be [inclusive], it’s just early on we didn’t necessarily have the tools or the understanding of how to be that way. I think mainly that’s because we grew up around people like us. So that was our default. But that expanded. ‘People like us’ has gotten a lot broader since we’ve had a much broader audience.” [...] I asked Griffin, who’s been making this podcast for basically his entire adult life, if giving advice for an hour every week had made him a wiser person. He said no. “Learning not to be shitty with comedy has made me grow as a person way way way way beyond podcasting and this career. Interacting with folks who care so much about this thing, and trying not to let them down or make them feel unwelcome? That has been a way that we’ve all grown.”


Like, not that they deserve cookies for it or whatever, but they have a huge audience and have used that platform to promote inclusiveness, and that's one of the reasons I like their shows. If they're called out, they change things. Recently they posted the first drafts of the character designs for their upcoming comic, and when people pointed out that all the characters were drawn as white, they apologized and decided to change it to better reflect the diversity of their audience.
posted by showbiz_liz at 7:02 AM on February 21 [12 favorites]


I dance around that cookie issue too, but on a scale of white guys who have an enormous whiteguy comedy-fan audience they are showing their work and that is what white guys with an audience of white guys should be doing. It's the only way to get many white guys to change.

I think, though, if you just dip in and out of the material (I do, because I subscribe to four million podcasts and don't listen to most of them) you mostly miss it. Like, 95% of the main podcasts' material is goofs, and the rest is getting folded in either implicitly (they try very hard not to do shitty goofs at the expense of vulnerable people in the first place, so it's the absence of down-punching) and very intermittently explicitly (calling it out when they encounter it, apologizing when they do it themselves). That does register on people who are routinely listening.

The whole Smirl-McElroy circle takes a toooon of "libtard" backlash, the kind of thing most of us may be bubbled away from but is 100% real and people have *meltdowns* over finding out their values are not shared by their goof heroes (join the FB groups; some of the shows have this happen more regularly than others), and sometimes that's the crack that lets the light in. That's an important thing to be happening, because those folks are not going to be listening to Another Round and GoodMuslimBadMuslim. There's also a lot of cool babies out there listening who may be in small towns or bubbles of their own and might not have another way to hear this stuff, whether it's a lifeline or just an introduction to things they hadn't thought about before.

So, you know, the cookies may be un-iced sugar circles, but still, they are important in the baked good universe.
posted by Lyn Never at 12:39 PM on February 21 [11 favorites]


Two new clips! Safety Town and Jobs. The former comes from a Forbes article.

the kind of thing most of us may be bubbled away from but is 100% real and people have *meltdowns* over finding out their values are not shared by their goof heroes (join the FB groups; some of the shows have this happen more regularly than others)

There's one or two dudes I've noticed who always reply bitterly on Twitter any time the boys talk about "SJW" type stuff and I'm just like... don't y'all have anything better to do?
posted by kmz at 12:53 PM on February 21 [2 favorites]


I've seen all the episodes! I liked them!
posted by drezdn at 8:06 AM on February 23 [1 favorite]


There's an ARG!
posted by drezdn at 8:09 AM on February 24 [1 favorite]


I think I should maybe watch the show before looking into all this...
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 8:14 AM on February 24 [2 favorites]


Maybe that second link in my comment is too subtle. It is a classic arg move though.
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 8:15 AM on February 24 [1 favorite]


Is there going to be a FanFare on the show? I need Clown Box reactions in my life.
posted by jason_steakums at 8:34 AM on February 24


I watched the first two last night (and the spider one when it first showed up on Youtube). I really liked it in general and then the Safety Town bit absolutely destroyed me. Even if you're not interested in the show that clip is probably worth checking out.

With the caveat that I really liked it, I think they actually come off a little self-conscious in the episodes I've watched - just slightly more awkward than on the podcast. I think especially Griffin sorta fell into "I'm playing a character" mode more than I've seen him do in his other work. But they've been very open about the fact that they were super nervous about doing this, and also that they made this show for people who are already fans of theirs, so I don't think it's a problem. In contrast to the New York Times review, my favorite parts were actually the parts when they started laughing hysterically because those were some of the most genuine moments in the show, where they were clearly totally comfortable.

Agree with the general consensus that the mayor is an absolute MVP, he could have stepped into reality as a straight-man from Parks and Rec or something. And the part where he says something like "they are definitely their father's sons" after they pulled a ridiculous prank move on him just hints at a rich backstory of a decades-long battle between him and Clint.

(Speaking of Clint, damn he has a big house)

On a final note, I agree with Hair Bow Lady that 'I would hire the one with the beard, I like it'
posted by showbiz_liz at 8:35 AM on February 24 [5 favorites]


I think especially Griffin sorta fell into "I'm playing a character" mode more than I've seen him do in his other work.

I loved this when it clicked, though. *terrible bottle flip* *awkward quick dab*
posted by jason_steakums at 8:46 AM on February 24 [3 favorites]


I've seen 4 of 6 episodes and I am very certain that the Clown Box was the cause of a very nasty nightmare I had last night. Anyway, I have been hoping for the show to appear on FanFare today. I would post it myself, but can't do it now when I'm (ostensibly) working.

The show is not perfect but it is everything I want from McElroys. Griffin's dabs have improved my life.

On a side note, I am disappointed with the Seeso integration with Amazon Video, as there didn't appear to be a way to link the Seeso account I signed up for on the 22nd with my Amazon account - I could only subscribe to Seeso through Amazon, which was not what I wanted to do, especially when my tests yesterday were with my parents' account.
posted by minsies at 10:30 AM on February 24


I've tried to request it on fanfare, but there's no imdb entry for the show. Maybe the beagle boys stole it.
posted by drezdn at 11:42 AM on February 24 [1 favorite]


Aw, beans.
posted by minsies at 2:51 PM on February 24


Seeso has...not been the most has-shit-together entity in the world. The app is still miles better than it was when Take My Wife came out though.
posted by Lyn Never at 2:58 PM on February 24 [1 favorite]


...CLOWN BOX
posted by showbiz_liz at 7:02 PM on February 24 [3 favorites]


I do kind of worry that I'm going to have to recommend the show with reservations now - "uh, you may want to skip episode two, because of the Clown Box, and then probably #3 due to...Ranchos."
posted by Lyn Never at 10:06 PM on February 24


> Car Boys... doubled over with tears of gasping laughter

Episode 27 is so beautiful, so funny, so amazing. YouTube commenters are gobsmacked:
Busto 1.0 ascends to the Sun Chips place after deploying from an exploding space craft hurtling towards the earth at terminal velocity in a futuristic sci-fi epic about man's relationship with physics, quantum mechanics, and - dare I say it... God?
posted by ASCII Costanza head at 5:07 PM on February 27 [3 favorites]


I was watching the episodes in order, and saw the haunted clown doll, and thought "Oh is that 'Clown Box'? Huh, OK not that creepy I guess."
Later I saw the actual Clown Box 😬

I think my favourite joke so far is "you look like nerd fucked a carpet".
posted by EndsOfInvention at 6:01 AM on March 1 [1 favorite]


I put a request in to add it yesterday, but it hasn't been approved yet. :(

P.S. Make sure to watch the deleted scenes.
posted by drezdn at 6:20 AM on March 1


With the caveat that I really liked it, I think they actually come off a little self-conscious in the episodes I've watched - just slightly more awkward than on the podcast. I think especially Griffin sorta fell into "I'm playing a character" mode more than I've seen him do in his other work.

I notice that too, but Griffin has been extremely open about the fact that he had awful norovirus throughout a huge chunk of filming and that (to borrow his words) his 'organs and bones had liquefied leaving [him] a hollow sack of human skin'. I wonder how much of the Griffin weirdness has to do with him basically trying to put on a good face and soldier through despite it.
posted by Itaxpica at 12:52 PM on March 1 [2 favorites]


I had a sort of cautious optimism after watching the Rancho ep, having enjoyed it a lot but not feeling totally sure about how the podcast feel and flow was going to translate based on that one outing.

Seeing the whole sextet of this first run has allayed any of those reservations; Ranchos was probably as good a standalone pitch for the show as any if you had to go with one but it's also maybe the most well-behaved of the bunch and I think the more structurally risky goofiness of stuff like Clown Box really shows off what they can do here in breaking from podcast form a little.

Really really delighted.
posted by cortex at 1:40 PM on March 2 [4 favorites]


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