The Doors... 2003?
February 10, 2003 6:51 PM   Subscribe

Huge surprise: The Doors suck without Jim Morrison. "Whatever you might think of Robbie Krieger and Ray Manzarek, just don't call them "The Doors." link and title via jasonbuckley.com
posted by GriffX (25 comments total)

 
Well, duh! What did anyone expect?
posted by dg at 7:05 PM on February 10, 2003


Some other 60s leftovers are doing the same thing, apparently.
posted by UKnowForKids at 7:14 PM on February 10, 2003


Oh, and guys: The music's over. Turn out the lights.
posted by UKnowForKids at 7:15 PM on February 10, 2003


I don't blame these guys for wanting to relive possibly the best days of their lives, but why with Ian Astbury? Astbury definitely does the whole rock star posing quite well and may even do a passable Jim, but I'm thinking that if this new Doors thing were to take off, they'd need somebody who can be Jim while at the same time be their own man. I'm thinking that Jeff Martin from The Tea Party would fit the bill perfectly. He's the one in the middle. Jeff already has the initials, sounds a lot like him and even tries to look like him.

What's with bands leaving the bass player behind? Didn't Page and Plant go on tour and make some albums without John Paul Jones? Jones and Densmore should collaborate on a killer album that would put their former bandmates to shame.
posted by ashbury at 7:16 PM on February 10, 2003


As far as I'm concerned, the Doors sucked with Jim Morrison too.
posted by MrBaliHai at 7:20 PM on February 10, 2003


MrBaliHai: As far as I'm concerned, the Doors sucked with Jim Morrison too.

We have a winner, folks!
posted by UKnowForKids at 7:21 PM on February 10, 2003


Seriously, why do you say that, mrbalihai? I think you're missing out, but you're welcome to your opinion.
posted by ashbury at 7:39 PM on February 10, 2003


I can explain why the Doors sucked with Jim Morrison in thirteen words:

"If they say I never loved you / You know they are a liar."
posted by kindall at 7:43 PM on February 10, 2003


Kinda the same way Guns'N'Roses suck... With nobody but Axle.
posted by Yelling At Nothing at 7:48 PM on February 10, 2003


heh. the sidewalk crouches at her feet like a dog that begs for something sweet. hello.
posted by quonsar at 7:48 PM on February 10, 2003


First of all, welcome back Bali Hai.

Second, while the Doors pooped out a few decent tunes ("Light My Fire" "Soul Kitchen" "My Eyes Have Seen You") to anyone who's gotten past their "Wow that's deep" pothead phase, I 'd say they were possibly the most overrated band of all time.
Mainly because they tried to hard and were too self indulgent. If they had reined in their insticts and Morrison had laid off the whiskey and the overwrought poetry, they mighta been ok.

PLus I knew not one but TWO stoner morons who were convinced they were the lizard king reincarnated. They even insisted on being called Jim. A classic case of mythology outweiging music. You want tragedy, early death and some really good music --go check out Michael Bloomfield instead. Even his bio is better than Jimbos'.
posted by jonmc at 8:13 PM on February 10, 2003


Mainly because they tried to hard and were too self indulgent.

I grant you this but I still feel that they had more than a handful of really good songs, and a very small handful of truly great songs. If some of the bands who are currently on top of the charts could come up with a similar feat I'd be pleasantly surprised but I won't hold my breath.

Anyway, I'm committing the sin of discussing personal likes and dislikes in music. Somebody slap some sense into me before I continue.
posted by ashbury at 8:34 PM on February 10, 2003


What a fantastic bad review for the likes of a Yahoo posting -- the term flaccid is used -- right on!

"The evening's low point comes when he is asked to recite one of Morrison's poems, "Ghost Dance." He's not helped by the flaccid cocktail jazz that accompanies the recitation; when the band is joined by a group of dancing Native American shamans, the specter of self-parody that was hovering in the wings most of the evening takes center stage. "

Just great. I wonder - do they have merchandise -- if so -- who might wear the 60$ t-shirt promoting this doomed incarnation?
posted by RubberHen at 8:39 PM on February 10, 2003


Have you seen my grasshopper, momma?

Lookin' real good.
posted by Ufez Jones at 9:03 PM on February 10, 2003


Doors without Jim Morrison?...I would step in as a Jim Morrison double.....if I were 20 years younger.... goddamn! - too late for a shocking early death...how un-sexy -- consciousness, the suffering of others...run run run run run away!
posted by troutfishing at 9:07 PM on February 10, 2003


Ashbury, I've heard a few people suggesting Jeff Martin too, but does anyone outside of Canada/Australia know who he is? (Funny about the bass player thing, Jane's Addiction reformed without their bass player)

Densmore suggested Ray and crew should of just started a new band with some new songs, heck i bet it would have sounded better than Oysterhead (Stewart Copeland's previous supergroup). This whole doors reunion thing is just dumb.

Trivia, Napalm Death haven't had any original members since 1991, link.
posted by bobo123 at 9:36 PM on February 10, 2003


If you're curious about why John Densmore wasn't involved in this tour, here's an older thread about an article he wrote for the Nation.
posted by electro at 9:39 PM on February 10, 2003


[W]hen the band is joined by a group of dancing Native American shamans, the specter of self-parody that was hovering in the wings most of the evening takes center stage.

"In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history lived a strange race of people: the Druids..."
posted by adamgreenfield at 1:12 AM on February 11, 2003


Re the bass player thing, I think the Doors had various bass players but not a bass player. Or at least that's the way it looked from the album credits.
posted by alumshubby at 4:11 AM on February 11, 2003


Not even the Velvet Underground survived a 2nd reincarnation. Rock/pop groups are like that one summer we all had that was really great etc; once it's over, it's over. Unless you're Bob Dylan, of course.
111 < --- secretly waiting for the smiths comeback tour/small>
posted by 111 at 5:47 AM on February 11, 2003


Seriously, why do you say that, mrbalihai?

jonmc summed it up pretty succinctly. I'd add only that if I'm in the mood for Rimbaud, I'll read his poetry. I don't need to hear him channeled through a pretentious rock vocalist who wrote bonehead lyrics such as, "There's a killer on the road, his brain is squirmin' like a toad".

welcome back Bali Hai.

No one gets out of MetaFilter alive.
posted by MrBaliHai at 6:20 AM on February 11, 2003


I think the Doors had various bass players but not a bass player. Or at least that's the way it looked from the album credits.

Ray Manzerek played keyboard bass, as well as organ/keyboards. One hand for each. They only had three musicians.
posted by MrAnonymous at 6:53 AM on February 11, 2003


This news makes me squirm almost as much as this Paul McCartney album cover from 1993. There's nothing worse than milking past successes for too long, especially when you can only simulate them now. Why not look forward and concentrate on creating something new?
posted by orange swan at 8:01 AM on February 11, 2003


Yes, the Doors had no bass player. They had John Densmore on drums, Robby Kreiger on guitar, Ray Manzarek on organ/keyboard, and Jim Morrison on intoxicants.
posted by padraigin at 12:16 PM on February 11, 2003


Re: The Dead-- I miss Jerry a lot, but their most recent incarnation makes fresh, exciting music. The Other Ones tour last fall was nothing short of amazing.
posted by muckster at 3:04 PM on February 11, 2003


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