Federal Appeals Court Delays California Recall
September 15, 2003 8:23 PM Subscribe
The Gropenator will have to spin his wheels for awhile: California's Vote Delayed by Court Over Punch Cards. And here's the kicker--it's deja vu all over again, Bizarro stylee: Bush v. Gore Outlives Its Limited Warranty for Use in California
The Supreme Court's decision in Bush v. Gore was meant to be a ticket good for one ride. "Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances," the justices said in their unsigned opinion in 2000, "for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities." Three judges on the federal appeals court in San Francisco, all appointed by Democratic presidents, decided yesterday to use it for another ride anyway.
The Supreme Court's decision in Bush v. Gore was meant to be a ticket good for one ride. "Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances," the justices said in their unsigned opinion in 2000, "for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities." Three judges on the federal appeals court in San Francisco, all appointed by Democratic presidents, decided yesterday to use it for another ride anyway.
Ah, y2k, ya know I love ya...but this shoulda gone in the post from this morning.
posted by dejah420 at 8:48 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by dejah420 at 8:48 PM on September 15, 2003
my but what long petards the supremes do find themselves being a hoisted from...
(as if they ever had any chance of being allowed to forget they issued such a shameful opinion as B v G)
Look soon for the Court to bitch-slap the 9th circuit.
posted by Fupped Duck at 9:14 PM on September 15, 2003
(as if they ever had any chance of being allowed to forget they issued such a shameful opinion as B v G)
Look soon for the Court to bitch-slap the 9th circuit.
posted by Fupped Duck at 9:14 PM on September 15, 2003
Well, it will be interesting to see if they do, Fupped Duck. I doubt that the Supreme Court is particularly excited to get into these issues again, given the likelihood of another 5-4 decision, more acrimony between the Justices and the further tarnishing of the Court's reputation.
Especially when you consider that all nine Justices would have to basically switch sides on the legal question in order to get their desired political result, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they refused to review it just to save face.
posted by boltman at 10:44 PM on September 15, 2003
Especially when you consider that all nine Justices would have to basically switch sides on the legal question in order to get their desired political result, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they refused to review it just to save face.
posted by boltman at 10:44 PM on September 15, 2003
/shrug
From the supreme court page on the Florida Elections.
Bush v Gore
Bush v Palm Beach
I don't think it would amount to a "switch of sides". I suspect each side will stick to its familiar grounds: state/federal and guarantee of suffrage. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the court used this as an opportunity to try to clear up the muddled waters.
posted by rudyfink at 3:10 AM on September 16, 2003
From the supreme court page on the Florida Elections.
Bush v Gore
Bush v Palm Beach
I don't think it would amount to a "switch of sides". I suspect each side will stick to its familiar grounds: state/federal and guarantee of suffrage. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the court used this as an opportunity to try to clear up the muddled waters.
posted by rudyfink at 3:10 AM on September 16, 2003
In Bush v. Gore, it was the five conservatives that appealled to the equal protection clause to argue that the recount must be halted because all the votes would not be treated the same. The four liberal members said their was no equal protection issue.
In this case, the ninth circuit used the same equal protection argument made by Renquist & co. to postpone the California election, helping the Democrats this time. While there may be more subtle arguments that the five conservatives could make to reverse the 9th Circuit's decision, it will still involve some degree of backpedaling on the equal protection issue.
So, as XQUZYPHYR notes, it's going to make the Court look pretty bad if they take it up and reverse. So I'm just saying that maybe they won't. Believe it or not, the justices actually do care about their reputations in the legal world.
posted by boltman at 6:55 AM on September 16, 2003
In this case, the ninth circuit used the same equal protection argument made by Renquist & co. to postpone the California election, helping the Democrats this time. While there may be more subtle arguments that the five conservatives could make to reverse the 9th Circuit's decision, it will still involve some degree of backpedaling on the equal protection issue.
So, as XQUZYPHYR notes, it's going to make the Court look pretty bad if they take it up and reverse. So I'm just saying that maybe they won't. Believe it or not, the justices actually do care about their reputations in the legal world.
posted by boltman at 6:55 AM on September 16, 2003
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posted by rudyfink at 8:36 PM on September 15, 2003