Greenlighters

July 2, 2005 7:56 PM

Greenlighters are an emerging underground movement of sexually promiscuous teenagers, including bisexual, homosexual, and heterosexual members. Members of this movement wear a green polo shirt with the collar up, indicating that they are open to pretty much any sexual adventure. When someone comes up to them and puts the collar down, they are "collared" and will go with that person and do whatever sexual act they ask. Transfer of money is not usually involved. Some parent groups are starting to get involved - urging parents to go through their kids clothes and confiscate green shirts and polos. Supposedly this has been going on since mid-2004 and may be related to the "chavs" in Britain somehow.
posted by Maxor (116 comments total)

urging parents to go through their kids clothes and confiscate green shirts and polos

That's the right step, I think. Lord forbid you have to communicate with your kids, just take their shirts so they can't participate. Right.
posted by puke & cry at 8:02 PM on July 2, 2005 [1 favorite]

Awesome! I'm gonna take a break from all this fictional bluetooth faciliated anonymous sex and start having fictional greenshirt facilitated anonymous sex!
posted by jonson at 8:06 PM on July 2, 2005

Don't gays wear green on Thursdays?
posted by daninnj at 8:07 PM on July 2, 2005

Don't gays wear green on Thursdays?

no, that is purple day
posted by Jikido at 8:09 PM on July 2, 2005

Gay men would never be caught in something with popped collars, let alone fluorescent green polo shirts.
posted by Rothko at 8:11 PM on July 2, 2005

Reminds me of "Sex Bracelets" and the whole "Snapping = Hoax?" debate.
Thanks for the link though Maxor.
posted by numlok at 8:12 PM on July 2, 2005

What about sexually promiscuous non-gay non-bi? Oh, and how do I tell if she's over 18?
posted by tomplus2 at 8:12 PM on July 2, 2005

jonson pegged it. My first thought when reading this post was about that ridiculous bluetooth story. But my question is, who would be motivated to perpetuate the green collar story? I mean, not in a wishful-thinking kind of way, but in a 'this will make more people buy my product' kind of way?
posted by bingo at 8:13 PM on July 2, 2005

In my day we just hung out on Polk Street looking "rough". No hype needed.
posted by davy at 8:15 PM on July 2, 2005

i have to wear a polo shirt!? effing preppies...
posted by stratastar at 8:21 PM on July 2, 2005

Man, why didn't anything like this exist when I was a teenager? Damn. Would've made high school a lot more interesting.
posted by antifuse at 8:23 PM on July 2, 2005

hey wait, wasn't there a movement that was very similar to this, where kids would supposedly swap different-colored bracelets in exchange for sexual favors? And then parents made very sure that these things were banned in school?

And then it turned out to be nothing more than a huge joke?
posted by thecapitalizt at 8:28 PM on July 2, 2005

Rothko: that's the whole point.
posted by wakko at 8:28 PM on July 2, 2005

davy? is that you?
posted by trip and a half at 8:29 PM on July 2, 2005

Personally, I think it's a huge counter-intellegence operation by kids to get their parents focused on something insanely stupid so that they can actually overthrow the country, or something like that. Seriously though, throwing the coller up probably reduces your chances of sex.
posted by petrilli at 8:33 PM on July 2, 2005

But my question is, who would be motivated to perpetuate the green collar story? I mean, not in a wishful-thinking kind of way, but in a 'this will make more people buy my product' kind of way?

Edward Bernays's Green Ball

(covered better in this book, but that was the first concise online reference.)
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:33 PM on July 2, 2005

Art school 'project', gotta be...
posted by fingerbang at 8:34 PM on July 2, 2005

I guess this is after they outgrow the supposed (Michelle-Malkin-hyped) rainbow parties.
posted by Zurishaddai at 8:34 PM on July 2, 2005

Rothko:

Gay men would never be caught in something with popped collars, let alone fluorescent green polo shirts.

You obviously don't live in Sydney (Australia, not Canada), where polo shirts with popped collars are a leftover 80s private school-boy uniform. I was sad to see the look come back into fashion a year or so ago.

But you are right about the colour.
posted by hifimofo at 8:34 PM on July 2, 2005

Someone better send all those frat boys, with their collars popped up, a memo.
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 8:35 PM on July 2, 2005

Reminds me of "Sex Bracelets" and the whole "Snapping = Hoax?" debate.
Thanks for the link though Maxor.
posted by numlok at 9:12 PM MST on July 2

hey wait, wasn't there a movement that was very similar to this, where kids would supposedly swap different-colored bracelets in exchange for sexual favors? And then parents made very sure that these things were banned in school?

And then it turned out to be nothing more than a huge joke?
posted by thecapitalizt at 9:28 PM MST on July 2 [!]

man, i can see not reading all the posts when there's like a hundred, but jesus, we're not even at twenty yet. pay attention!

in other news, seconding the suggestions of others, this is clearly an urban legend.

why don't people's bullshit detectors work better? does this sound at all real to anyone? it just smacks of untruth.
posted by Hat Maui at 8:40 PM on July 2, 2005

I did this.

Back in 1982.
posted by WolfDaddy at 8:46 PM on July 2, 2005

Every week someone comes up with some bullshit idea that basically boils down to this -- kids these days are having sex all the time, and they weren't in *your* day. Remember the "toothing" "craze"?
posted by clevershark at 8:51 PM on July 2, 2005 [1 favorite]

Oh my god, I wore a green shirt to a ballgame today, and I popped my collar semi-ironically. No wonder that guy dragged me into the bathroom and asked me to blow him! Thanks Mefi!
posted by muddgirl at 8:52 PM on July 2, 2005

Some of the post titles are funny:

"rainbow parties? what are your opinions"

"got collared by my buds sister lol"

"How greenlighting turned me gay"
posted by KirkJobSluder at 8:57 PM on July 2, 2005

I got a letter last week saying the following clothing was not allowed next year (SLO High in CA):

Thong underwear protruding past the pant line
Low rider jeans
Tube top shirts
Bell bottoms (what?)
**Polo shirts in solid blue or green
Shoes with heals longer than 3 inches
Bandanas used as head covering

No information on why was given, but I assumed the Polo thing was gang related, but maybe not.
posted by TravisO at 8:57 PM on July 2, 2005

Reminds me of the flash-your-lights-at-cars-without-headlights-on-at-night gang initiation urban legends. Every once in a while I'll still be in a car with someone who believes that one.

Obviously an urban legend, but that website looks like it's actually a misinformation campaign with some jokesters piling on.
posted by ontic at 9:09 PM on July 2, 2005

Speaking of parenting-- It's really scary thinking that teens are reaching out for this kind of attention. Is our parenting really that bad?

"Hey, screw forming a relationship or even having a conversation." The self-esteem training that's leeched its way into schools obviously isn't doing what it intended to do.u
posted by Gable Oak at 9:09 PM on July 2, 2005

TravisO: Thong underwear protruding past the pant line

Ohh, thank goodness. Finally a rule in a school dress code based on sound fashion sense.
posted by KirkJobSluder at 9:11 PM on July 2, 2005

Thongs?
posted by clevershark at 9:17 PM on July 2, 2005

Gable Oak writes "Speaking of parenting-- It's really scary thinking that teens are reaching out for this kind of attention. Is our parenting really that bad? "

You do know that this is just yet another urban legend, right?
posted by clevershark at 9:17 PM on July 2, 2005

I wonder if this may part of a competition among high schoolers to see how many un-wearable/undesirable items they can get banned by thier local school boards. Fer instance:

No rainbow suspenders
No snoods
No 1920's style paperboy shortpants
No patterned cravats
No spats paired with culottes
No pillbox hats with lace veils in gang colors

(actually, I'd happily sponsor a competition like this...)
posted by maryh at 9:20 PM on July 2, 2005

KirkJobSulder - I sadly disagree. I'm gonna miss whoever sat in front of me in Chemistry last year.
posted by TravisO at 9:20 PM on July 2, 2005

clevershark,
No. Thongs.
posted by bashos_frog at 9:35 PM on July 2, 2005

Man, and here I am with every color of polo but green. Being married, I see I'll need to update my wardrobe...
posted by Samizdata at 9:50 PM on July 2, 2005

Rothko writes "Gay men would never be caught in something with popped collars, let alone fluorescent green polo shirts."


Actually, I've been seeing popped collars all over the place. On the right boy, with the right style, it can be hotlikewhoa.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 9:59 PM on July 2, 2005

Oh, I agree that visible thongs are kind of sexy. However, quite a bit of the most sexy things in the world, are also extremely tacky.
posted by KirkJobSluder at 10:24 PM on July 2, 2005

Dear Penthouse, I never thought those stories about greenlighting were true until it happened to me...
posted by deanc at 10:26 PM on July 2, 2005

This does seem much like toothing, especially considering the lightly active and slightly unconvincing forum.
posted by abcde at 10:35 PM on July 2, 2005

I wonder if this myth stemmed from those "stoplight" parties on college campuses. Single people wear green to let others know they are single and looking. Yellow for people looking to cheat, and finally red for people in committed relationships.
posted by idiotfactory at 10:38 PM on July 2, 2005

Dammit, I was born way before my time.
posted by nightchrome at 10:48 PM on July 2, 2005

I'm glad I was born in a time when I could get laid without having to wear a polo shirt.
posted by BoringPostcards at 11:01 PM on July 2, 2005

There's one simple way for us to find out if this is true or not. Any volunteers?
posted by fshgrl at 11:13 PM on July 2, 2005

Goddamnit, I've been wearing a green polo shirt with a popped collar for months now and nothing has happened to me. I thought maybe I just looked dumb. My self-esteem cannot keep taking hits like this.
posted by mullacc at 11:14 PM on July 2, 2005

Just wait until Oprah hear's about this.
posted by dial-tone at 11:29 PM on July 2, 2005

I just graduated high school. I've never heard of this - outside of this post. Although, a friend once told me about "green light parties" where a girl/guy would wear green, red, or yellow, indicating how far they were okay with going sexually. And, as he said "no one leaves with who they came to the party with."

Then again, said friend could be full of crap.
posted by Amanda B at 11:54 PM on July 2, 2005

I'm going clothes shopping tomorrow!

(But only if I can find a nice AskMe Green colour.)
posted by five fresh fish at 12:21 AM on July 3, 2005

back in my day you had to get @ops if you wanted to score
posted by Satapher at 12:52 AM on July 3, 2005

Since the domain is registered to an Eston Bond, who's a Christian and a proud Republican who did his part on the take back Christmas talking point, I'd guess this is cheap stunt. Probably not ethical behavior, though, for an editor at a newspaper.

Interesting blog he has, if you enjoy random emotional rants of the young and confused.
posted by jonzino at 1:25 AM on July 3, 2005

Nice sleuthing, encyclopedia jonzino!

but why does "republican" link to metafilter?
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 1:48 AM on July 3, 2005

I ran with the easy crowds... +v was enough. And those were good days... Cybering 7-8-9 presumably women a night... Channel wars...

Oh, crap...

I'm rambling again, right?
posted by Samizdata at 2:12 AM on July 3, 2005

Wow.
I'm blown away by the deepness of today's youth.
posted by Radio7 at 2:36 AM on July 3, 2005

Do you have stairs in your house?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:21 AM on July 3, 2005

Sorry. Wrong thread.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:36 AM on July 3, 2005

Man, why didn't anything like this exist when I was a teenager? Damn. Would've made high school a lot more interesting

Funny. when I went to high school in Canada in the 1960s we had a group who wore red if they were interested in some after class play time that day.

AFIK it was only heterosexual, though, and limited to a subset of the community who were aware of the (not very secret) secret code.

Maybe our town was just more promiscuous than the rest of the world. The police broke up a key club on our street. My parents were disappointed that they weren't invited to join.
posted by Geo at 3:48 AM on July 3, 2005

Please go stand by the stairs, so I can protect you.
posted by flabdablet at 4:24 AM on July 3, 2005

Can you imagine a society in which ones needs to wear some kind of sign (clock, tatoo, green shirt, whatever) to communicate desire to express his/her sexuality ?

How repressed is that ? What's preventing them from just meeting up and follow natural rules for coupling ? I mean a male and a female meet up..if there's a reciprocal attraction nothing will stop them from having sex and spending time togheter...nothing except themselves and their own fears and insecurities....but meeting by meeting their insecurity are very likely to vanish..resulting also in more socially skilful andbalanced adults.

Damn management by fear, obsession and repression, it's doing more damages then good and it's being replicated by marketing too.
posted by elpapacito at 4:25 AM on July 3, 2005

Bugger. Stavros, we're both lost.

Hey, I like your collar like that.
posted by flabdablet at 4:26 AM on July 3, 2005

Oh, those little scamps.

You know, back when I was a teenager I always vowed to myself that there'd be three things I'd never allow myself to do as I got older.

1: Become a conservative
2: Start liking Phil Collins
3: Fall for any tired old nonsense about how teenagers today are OUT OF CONTROL, MAN!

3 out of 3, so far.
posted by Decani at 5:33 AM on July 3, 2005

Maxor, where did you get all that supporting information beyond the (mostly empty) forum link? About the parent groups and how long it's been going, etc.
posted by neustile at 5:39 AM on July 3, 2005

Kanye West, trendsetter.
posted by VulcanMike at 6:00 AM on July 3, 2005

Members of this movement wear a green polo shirt with the collar up, indicating that they are open to pretty much any sexual adventure.

Sexual adventurers who wear clothing so ugly, it guarantees they won't get laid. Sounds logical.
posted by jonmc at 6:40 AM on July 3, 2005

Yet another reason to hate popped collars.
posted by oaf at 7:51 AM on July 3, 2005

Can you imagine a society in which ones needs to wear some kind of sign (clock, tatoo, green shirt, whatever) to communicate desire to express his/her sexuality ? How repressed is that ? What's preventing them from just meeting up and follow natural rules for coupling ?

Elpapacito, people wear clothing and other adornments to express their socioeconomic status, cultural affilitations, and age group. Why should communicating sexual predilictions be singled out and considered taboo? As a form of targeted advertisement in a large-scale society, it would improve the chances of people "meeting up" in the first place.
posted by solipse at 8:30 AM on July 3, 2005

Holy shit! There's a whole bunch of them at the golf course. They look older, though.
posted by warbaby at 8:40 AM on July 3, 2005

Why should communicating sexual predilictions be singled out and considered taboo?

Brian Aldiss: The Primal Urge. Amusing in a Carry On kind of way.
posted by meehawl at 8:42 AM on July 3, 2005

Eston Bond? Is he 007's evil brother? Does he have a cat that he strokes?
posted by 235w103 at 9:41 AM on July 3, 2005

" Since the domain is registered to an Eston Bond, who's a Christian and a proud Republican who did his part on the take back Christmas talking point,"

He does say he's a social liberal on his About the Author page. Note that it doesn't say he's a freak with a shirt fetish though so maybe it cancels itself out.
posted by TravisO at 9:46 AM on July 3, 2005

Well, the Romans had their ways to signal sexual availability.

I think the most amazing thing about the rainbow party rumors is that nobody everp points out that neither lipstick or oral sex quite um, work that way.
posted by KirkJobSluder at 9:56 AM on July 3, 2005

KirkJobSluder: precisely. That "Rainbow Party" crap is so obviously - well, crap - that I'm staggered that there are actually grown people out there taking it seriously. They've either never had a blow job from someone wearing lipstick or else they're allowing bizarre moral panic to addle their wits completely.
posted by Decani at 10:09 AM on July 3, 2005

Well, it would certainly make St Patrick's day more interesting.
posted by MarkC at 10:30 AM on July 3, 2005

..may be related to the "chavs" in Britain somehow.

No, not by any number of degrees.
posted by chrid at 10:53 AM on July 3, 2005

Um ... the Greenlighter forum didn't exist before yesterday.

Look at the board's profile #2. "Joined: 02 Jul 2005"

Furthermore, Maxor's MeFi account hasn't been used for posting or commenting since November of 2002. The Greenlighting thing is obviously a weak attempt at an urban legend. My money's on Maxor being a sleeper-MeFi-urban-legend-starting-account-abuser.

Maxor. Make me a liar. But I'm calling you out.
posted by Alt F4 at 11:10 AM on July 3, 2005

I asked my sister-in-law about this (12 years my junior) and she said that there are some slutty* girls at school that do this. However, she said the rumor is that the one time someone actually propositioned one of the girls, she freaked out and went home sick and didn't come back for a few days.

Take this with a grain of salt though. Being the youngest of both our families by far, she has been known to embellish things to sound like she's in the know. That, and she's incredibly gullible.


*Her words, not mine.
posted by [insert clever name here] at 11:10 AM on July 3, 2005

I just noticed that I'm wearing my beloved bright green WFMU t-shirt today.

Back off you fuckers.
posted by jonmc at 11:37 AM on July 3, 2005

Can you imagine a society in which ones needs to wear some kind of sign (clock, tatoo, green shirt, whatever) to communicate desire to express his/her sexuality ?

Well, you have to imagine it, because this is a freakin' hoax until proven otherwise, okay?

All this crap about kids playing (as I remember one freaked-out mom calling it) "the game of 'snap'" or wearing I'm-for-butt-sex tattoos -- it says more about the lurid and rather pitiful imaginations of sex-starved adults than it does about the actual world of teenagers.
posted by argybarg at 11:37 AM on July 3, 2005

what stav said.
posted by naxosaxur at 11:44 AM on July 3, 2005

Can you imagine a society in which ones needs to wear some kind of sign (clock, tatoo, green shirt, whatever) to communicate desire to express his/her sexuality ?

It's not unheard of (links NSFW)

(Related SFW sites: The Goth Hanky Code and The Christian Hanky Code)
posted by the_bone at 12:04 PM on July 3, 2005

jonzino writes "Since the domain is registered to an Eston Bond, who's a Christian and a proud Republican who did his part on the take back Christmas talking point, I'd guess this is cheap stunt."

Or maybe that's something that only Xian Republicans do?
posted by clevershark at 12:04 PM on July 3, 2005

Well, I'd like to commend Greenlighters.org on a very convincing fraud. Or is it just fake?

Jonmc, redlighting is soooooo lame.
posted by Busithoth at 12:07 PM on July 3, 2005

Jonmc, redlighting is soooooo lame.

Perhaps. But the mrs. would have to kick ass, otherwise.
posted by jonmc at 12:12 PM on July 3, 2005

MeTa per Count Ziggurat.
posted by mlis at 12:47 PM on July 3, 2005

Obvious hoax.

It's elaborate, and a lot of people are in on it. (Hell, TravisO even spent the five bucks.)

Boring summer, is it?
posted by sellout at 2:22 PM on July 3, 2005

OK, I have a "friend" who was interested in trying this. But he wants to know if there are limits to what you have to do. I know holding back is "discouraged," but what if your temporary partner wants to do something really disgusting and dangerous, like quonsaring? Is it okay to say no?
posted by grouse at 2:34 PM on July 3, 2005

Maxor: ..may be related to the "chavs" in Britain somehow.

chrid: No, not by any number of degrees.

What chrid said. (wikipedia) In fact, I wonder where one might get that idea. Is there a reference on the linked site? I can't see the link at all.

And, another priceless image from the ranks of GL.org. I know this (probable) hoax is curiously elaborate, but why do the hoaxsters assume that promiscuous kids these days are also that proficient in Photoshop? Those avatars and sig images aren't quite advertising material, but they seem conspicuously 'designed' (with the crappy 'popping'-pun taglines and all) for something a kid would just whip up on their home pc. Just scroll through a thread on a 'legitimate' teen/adolescent board and you'll know what I mean. Where are the Eminem photos in bad resized jpeg and Tupac quotes in Comic Sans?
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 2:45 PM on July 3, 2005

Clearly this is a hoax. But what on earth has it got to do with chavs?
posted by salmacis at 2:55 PM on July 3, 2005

I've never heard of this - outside of this post.

I dunno, looks kinda like a green polo to me...
posted by Zurishaddai at 3:58 PM on July 3, 2005

Who cares if it's a hoax, so long as we can make it succeed.

You'll be taking part in a gigantic internet hoax, to put one over on the traditional media.

If you got here and pretend you really greenlighted and had a "Dear Playboy: I never thought I'd be writing you this..." experience, the mainstream media will eventually discover it and go into fits. And the hilarious part is that it's the right wing socially conservative media that will go the furthest off the deep end.

When it's all revealed as an elaborate hoax, there's gonna be breakfast McMuffins all over the faces of those who refuse to give their heads a shake.
posted by five fresh fish at 4:25 PM on July 3, 2005

Furthermore, Maxor's MeFi account hasn't been used for posting or commenting since November of 2002. The Greenlighting thing is obviously a weak attempt at an urban legend. My money's on Maxor being a sleeper-MeFi-urban-legend-starting-account-abuser.

Maxor. Make me a liar. But I'm calling you out.


Yeah, it looks like I may have been had. I got this info in an IM from not-so-regular aquaintance and I guess I didn't dig deep enough on it. I thought I was getting the scoop on some new emerging trend or maybe some kind of contagious marketing scheme. My apologies :(

As to the usage of my account, although I read MeFi religiously, it's true that I rarely comment on anything anymore. Nearly 100% of the time what I would have replied has already been spoken more eloquently by someone else.
posted by Maxor at 4:56 PM on July 3, 2005

Double shit.
Old Navy won't take my polo back on the grounds that it won't get me anonymous sex.
posted by Busithoth at 5:06 PM on July 3, 2005

Maxor, I repeat my earlier question: where did the 'supporting information' come from in your post? the parent groups getting involved, etc.
posted by neustile at 5:30 PM on July 3, 2005

I saw this girl who had a zipper on her butt. I suggest this fashion trumps the collar thing.
posted by JohnR at 5:42 PM on July 3, 2005

What interests me is who'll be showing up at the next MeFi meetup wearing a green shirt with the collar up.

Err, well... it doesn't interest me that much, of course.
posted by Decani at 5:46 PM on July 3, 2005

How do u deal about not getting colard?

I went to a greenmeet this past wednesday and not one perosn collared me! I thought this one dude was going to come up to me but he collared some ho sitting a few feet away from me and I was all like WTF? I walked to him and says sorry even after I made the eyes to him. I sometimes wonder about this whole thing, it psses me off when shit like this hppend. Should I have collred him n e wayz? I don't like the group thing and I just wanted him. I went home and went right to sleep. Fuck that1
posted by brundlefly at 6:27 PM on July 3, 2005

Decani: Oh, don't tempt me...
posted by SpecialK at 6:31 PM on July 3, 2005

getting colard, hee.

This is such a great prank. I so very much want to see the mainstream media repeating this hoax. Subvert the system: show it for what it is.
posted by five fresh fish at 7:17 PM on July 3, 2005

or are those collards? damn.
posted by five fresh fish at 7:18 PM on July 3, 2005

Greenlighting also refers to the process of getting a FPP approved on Fark which means something entirely different. This smells like Something Awful, for sure.
posted by grouse at 5:49 AM on July 4, 2005

holy shit, a guy just walked into this cafe in williamsburg in a bright green polo with an upturned collar. He's wearing khakis and flip flops and I'm really not sure if he's making a reference or innocently sporting his chosen fashion... he doesn't come off as a Seriously Ironic Hipster, but who knows.
posted by mdn at 7:34 AM on July 4, 2005

mdn, my money's on reference. In Billyburg, I think the benefits of being ahead of the curve is greater than the derision from being duped.
posted by Busithoth at 8:08 AM on July 4, 2005

I never liked collard greens.
posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot at 8:27 AM on July 4, 2005

I would, if I could just take off this damn grey sweatsuit.
posted by jimmythefish at 10:23 AM on July 4, 2005

It'd be sweet if this prank blew into a national thing, and then kids got the idea from it and started actually doing it.
posted by ackeber at 1:05 AM on July 5, 2005

Ok, so I was just now wearing a green polo with the collar up because there is a draft in my mom's house just under the vent that aims right at the back of our neck. So my mom comes in an says "Put your collar down. That's crazy." And puts down my collar. I'd've thought nothing of it but just then she licks her lips like some sort of sign, but it might be that she just had some jelly on the corner of her mouth.

So....do I hit it? or what?
posted by Smedleyman at 4:09 PM on July 5, 2005

Call me stupid if you like, but I think this is real, for the following reasons:

1. There are too many users on the board for it to be a hoax. 962.

2. For every artfully done forum sig, there are an equal number of really crappy ones.

3. Too much discussion. Arguably they've already got 500+ people-hours invested in the effort.

4. They say their boards died recently, hence the July 2 date.

It may be real.
posted by bugmuncher at 8:42 PM on July 5, 2005

So you're saying it's legit: we can (and should, I say!) go create an account using believable fake info where necessary, and post once a day for about a week, thus feeding the growing rumour.

If we keep at it, you bet we can make it real.
posted by five fresh fish at 10:48 PM on July 5, 2005

we should be laying odds on which socially conservative mainstream media mouthpiece will be the first to swallow the hoax...
posted by five fresh fish at 10:50 PM on July 5, 2005

OK, after sleeping on it, I think it is a hoax. Especially after Vin Diesel showed up. There's just too much SA energy there.

That, and too much attention-seeking beginning after July 2.
posted by bugmuncher at 5:36 AM on July 6, 2005

Wikipedia entry
posted by krix at 1:28 PM on July 7, 2005

Officially a hoax. For those curious.
posted by sellout at 12:33 PM on July 11, 2005

I thought it was obviously a hoax. I'm a little surprised it was ever treated as anything but such, by the folk here.
posted by five fresh fish at 4:50 PM on July 11, 2005

You win, FFF, for being so sure it was a hoax, but you use for the phrase "Dear Playboy..."

It's "Dear Penthouse..." The letters to Playboy would be more like, "Dear Playboy: I never thought I'd find that my sound system was not the highest fidelity imaginable, but yesterday..."
posted by soyjoy at 10:47 AM on August 1, 2005

Whatever. It's not like I actually read either magazine. actually, for that matter, it's not like i look at them, either. i prefer the real deal.
posted by five fresh fish at 12:38 PM on August 1, 2005

Oh, a Huster man, eh?
posted by soyjoy at 1:34 PM on August 1, 2005

Well, so much for that joke. I blame Live Preview.

Bad Live Preview, making me think I had previewed the content!
posted by soyjoy at 1:35 PM on August 1, 2005

MeTa again.
posted by Count Ziggurat at 2:28 PM on August 1, 2005