I have gotten new information that the peopel who invented yoga made it so they could have oral sex with them selves. You may not go that far with the streching. You are doing to same thing they were though.The more you know...
For Christians who complain that they don't like to be lumped together with the fundie/wingnut faction, here's your enemy. Go protest these stupid asshats who're giving your chosen faith a bad name. If you can't stand up in your church and denounce these idiots, why go to church?They aren't my 'enemy' any more than marxists are my 'enemy' because I disagree with their fundamental assumptions about the world and the way it should look. I understand what you're saying, but I don't see how it differs from a random right-winger screaming, 'If liberals REALLY love America, they should show it by protesting suicide bombers!'
It would be absolutely hilarious except that the militaristic war-like rhetoric is probably going to get us all killed.Actually, it's more likely to get them knocked up when they hit college and try to maintain cognitive dissonance without the benefit of their youth group cradle.
"It's too late to merely be frightened by these people. It's time to hit back before it is too late."So, who's talking about firing the first shot, now? Grow up, and learn how to live in a world where people disagree with you. It's the same thing these kids need to learn; they're not alone. The way to fight this shit is education, not escalation.
If we'd just try banning the Bible, I think that all problems such as this would be solved.C'mon, rougy. That wouldn't work. They'd still pass on their virulent ideologies by word of mouth. They're relentless. The only solution is mass extermination. Duh.
Yes. Verb. I was endorsing a Final Solution. Or a Final Final Solution. that's what I was saying. Even though I, and people like me, are out numbered 5000 to one it's you poor, poor, faithful that need to fear.I don't think you're advocating a Hitleresque Final Solution, or some sort of WWIII On The Christians bullshit. But you ARE the one talking about how you need to 'strike' and how you'd 'beam them off the planet' if you could. What specific means DO you advocate? Your language is no different than that of the religious troglodyte fringe you hate; all you establish is that you'd do the same things they do if you had numbers on your side.
Unless they end up going places like Biola, Bob Jones, or some "Bible college" where fundies with fancy titles can reaffirm all their misguided opinions about the evils of secularism.Don't be so sure. A friend of mine knew some of the people who voluntered at the Planned Parenthood clinic closest to Oral Roberts University. I'll give you three guesses where the majority of the girls seeking abortions came from, and the first two don't count.
Can we claim self-defense/self-determination? There's that whole wanting to rule/destroy the world thing they got going on to consider.Sure. 'Cause that's what they claim, too. Isn't it a happy litle circle? Stalin vs. The Crusades is such a fun contest to get into.
Well, no. Theism is the particular manifestation. Superstition is the problem.No, people thinking they know what the fuck other people should think and believe -- and try to force them to change 'for everyone's good' -- is the problem. That's true whether you're a baptist, a pagan, a 'bright,' or a buddhist.
In fact as the twit verb so deftly pointed out us non-believers had better shut the fuck up and leave running the world to the moderate believer. Trust THEM to be the buffer for your security.I said that pissing yourself and crying for people to 'strike back aganist the theists' accomplishes nothing, and only serves to fuel their persecution fantasies. I said that ranting about how anyone whose beliefs don't suit your fancy is 'incompatible with civilization' is just as bad as the assinine dominionist crap that gets thrown around.
I spent years in a major evangelical megachurch, and most of them didn't realize what "evangelical" meant or knew that it applied to their system of beliefs. Hell, most didn't even realize they were Protestant, and nearly all of them would have rejected the description "religious". But they all associated themselves with the phrase "born-again".Well, since tkchrist seems to think that anyone who believes in a deity of any kind doesn't deserve to be part of civilization, it's all just window-dressing anyways.
Come on. Have you ever had a Buddhist knock on your door inquiring into the nature of your soul like the Jehovah's Witnesses do?Yeah, that's absolutely true. But the whole point of my original rant was tkchrist's bitch-fest about how we have to strike back at the theists and how they have no place in society. I, in particular, should just kill myself. Everyone else? Transporter-beam off the planet.
Christians are way more into converting people than either pagans or Buddhists.
The best way to deal with some one like tkchrist is to ignore them. He is just trying to get a reaction and then say, "look how violent they are! Theism!". I implore anyone who posts on this thread to pretend that those posts don't exist. Let him make whatever inflammatory comments he wants, while the rest of us can continue a normal and civil debate.Sigh. You're right. I apologize for derailing the thread with that pissing contest.
I think this is all a Satanic plot to discredit Christianity.I don't think Satan has much work to do on that count...
Theism - or any a priori system - may prompt certain ideas such as the ‘inalienable rights of man’ and other useful concepts - or they may initiate hypothoses - but they cannot be policy.On that count, I can agree wholeheartedly. My objection to his comments wasn't because I want some sort of Dominionist Neo-Zion JesusLand. I don't think Dominionists are 'utopianists' -- at least, anymore than anyone who works towards an ideal. The problem is what you brought up above: they want to make their subjective system of beliefs the policy.
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