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Not at all satisfied with the "Maxim Hot 100," the editors over at AfterEllen decided to ask their readers to assemble their own lesbian and bisexual-oriented Hot 100.
posted by nevercalm (104 comments total) 6 users marked this as a favorite

 
Although I'm not someone to whom this sort of thing appeals, I've gotta say that as a red-blooded straight male, I'm with the lesbians on this one. And yes, even Helen Mirran.
posted by nevercalm at 11:41 AM on June 13, 2007


Tina Fey is one bar fight away from being the girl of my dreams.
posted by phaedon at 11:46 AM on June 13, 2007 [3 favorites]


Turns out I'm a lesbian.
Did you mean: especially Helen Mirren?
posted by kirkaracha at 11:50 AM on June 13, 2007


This post blows. Or licks. Whatever.
posted by four panels at 11:51 AM on June 13, 2007


Last week's news, warmed over like it's today's. Thanks.
posted by Dave Faris at 11:55 AM on June 13, 2007


First of all, I detest the word 'hot' in this context. What's wrong with 'pretty,' 'beautiful,' or even 'sexy?' Also, I will never get the Angelina thing, to me she looks like a titsy chipmunk.
posted by jonmc at 11:56 AM on June 13, 2007


Yay! Lesbians can objectify women, too!
posted by retronic at 11:58 AM on June 13, 2007 [7 favorites]


This list dosen't seem that different from most men's magazines' list of beautiful women, which means what? That standards of beauty aren't that different across sexual lines? Although, I've been hit on by gay men more times than by straight women, FWIW. But that says more bout gender than it does about sexuality or attractiveness.
posted by jonmc at 12:01 PM on June 13, 2007


This is sexist, narrow, etc BUT, it was suprisingly entertaining for me.

I think the common thread is that most of these actors are known for being strong, independent, thoughtful, and tough (instead of just arm decor).
posted by serazin at 12:07 PM on June 13, 2007


I only have one thing to say: Drew Barrymore is a lesbian? WTF?
posted by mstefan at 12:09 PM on June 13, 2007


I think the common thread is that most of these actors are known for being strong, independent, thoughtful, and tough

...and they're all pretty easy on the eyes, too. I mean, let's not bullshit around here...
posted by jonmc at 12:11 PM on June 13, 2007


The two lists do share at least one thing in common.
posted by flod at 12:13 PM on June 13, 2007


flod: what about Halle Berry?
posted by jonmc at 12:14 PM on June 13, 2007


Some of them I've never heard of; some of them are too skinny, and I can't imagine why skeletal would be hot. And Jennifer Garner is hotter than Emma Thompson? As if! Katee Sackhoff makes the cut, but Grace Park doesn't?

Quibblequibblequibble. What I want to know is, do any of them dream about being vikings?
posted by rtha at 12:15 PM on June 13, 2007


What I want to know is, do any of them dream about being vikings?

Maybe Lucy Lawless.
posted by jonmc at 12:19 PM on June 13, 2007


And yes, even Helen Mirran(sic).

What do you mean, "even?" Hellen Mirren is just hot. I saw The Queen last week, and even as Queen Elizabeth II she was hot.
posted by nanojath at 12:19 PM on June 13, 2007 [1 favorite]


jonmc: Only 1 black woman in the TOP 10 of the Top 100.
posted by papakwanz at 12:23 PM on June 13, 2007


I would prefer a top 100 disoriented women list.
posted by srboisvert at 12:26 PM on June 13, 2007


Yeah, I've always suspected women's taste is just as bad as men in these matters. After all they have even stronger interests in the banalization of beautiful than men.
posted by nixerman at 12:26 PM on June 13, 2007 [5 favorites]


ZOE BELL JUST GOT ROBBED

rosario dawson (jessica alba only wishes she could be that hot) and anne hathaway too. what's gina gershon w/o jennifer tilly? hmm, wouldn't mind a bit of lily allen come to think of it.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 12:27 PM on June 13, 2007


Much better list than the mens, which was a travesty.
posted by justgary at 12:29 PM on June 13, 2007


papakwanz that seems just about right

one in ten vs. 13 %

sounds appropriate
If you want to complain about the rest of the list now, by all means have at
posted by Rubbstone at 12:31 PM on June 13, 2007


I did not go through either list, but if Chayse Dacoda is not there it is pointless anyway.
posted by Iron Rat at 12:31 PM on June 13, 2007


re: women of color. Robbed.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 12:31 PM on June 13, 2007


Jennifer Garner is hotter than Emma Thompson? As if!

And by that you mean, "As if ... anyone could think otherwise!"
posted by pardonyou? at 12:32 PM on June 13, 2007


What do you mean, "even?" Hellen Mirren is just hot. I saw The Queen last week, and even as Queen Elizabeth II she was hot.
posted by nanojath


true, and freaky.
posted by COBRA! at 12:32 PM on June 13, 2007


I would prefer a top 100 disoriented women list.

I figure Tara Reid has #1 sewn up there.

I've been hit on by gay men more times than by straight women, FWIW. But that says more bout gender than it does about sexuality or attractiveness.

to clarify: gay men are gay, but they're still men, meaning if they're horny enough they'll hit on anything. which is kind of what I was getting at with my playful jab at serazin there: that gayness dosen't automatically endow nobility on one's preferences in looks.
posted by jonmc at 12:32 PM on June 13, 2007


jonmc: Halle Berry isn't in the top ten on either list.

Still, the argument seems spurious... a list of ten celebrities has only a 10% representation of black people. Well, the celebrities are almost exclusively from the US or UK, which have 12.3% (as of 2000) and 2% (as of 2001) black populations, respectively. If you want to count Canadian representation on the list, that's also about 2% (2001). So one-out-of-ten seems as close an "appropriate representation" as one could expect if one were intentionally constructing the list around ethnicity.

The argument that the featured members are light-skinned is more fair, but I feel it's pretty shaky moral ground to be criticizing racism and then turning around and implying that some people aren't black enough.

On preview: what Rubbstone said, essentially.
posted by Riki tiki at 12:40 PM on June 13, 2007


So it this list misogynist, racist, sexist, or homophobic?
I can't keep up with the hate.
posted by rocket88 at 12:40 PM on June 13, 2007 [4 favorites]


Ambrosia Voyeur - I was waiting for the Williams' sisters too, preferably together (ew, did I just turn into the mysoginist assholes that I hate?)

And jonmc - for the record, I did start my comment by saying I thought the list was sexist and narrow. I just was trying figure out what the common qualities were that distinguished this from a Maxim style list.

My real issue with the list is that Michelle Rodriguez wasn't in the top ten.
posted by serazin at 12:45 PM on June 13, 2007


Is Ellen DeGeneres (50) actually Rutger Hauer in drag? Or is it the other way around?
posted by pracowity at 12:45 PM on June 13, 2007


Great choices here. A lot more "unique" looks, whereas the men's list are always just "typical" beauty.

I'll take unique any day of the week.
posted by John Kenneth Fisher at 12:47 PM on June 13, 2007


serazin: I know. I was just busting your chops.

Is Ellen DeGeneres (50) actually Rutger Hauer in drag?

This straight guy thinks Ellen's kinda cute. (I use 'cute,' in the snese that I've always taken it: meaning not exactly sexy or beautiful but attractively unusual looking if that makes any sense). and yes I realize that we're all talking about superficial physical components of attractiveness here, but even that's an interesting topic on a certain level.
posted by jonmc at 12:50 PM on June 13, 2007


Wow, it's a "The L Word" love fest. As that goes, though, Lauren Lee Smith should have been a lot higher than #78 (although admittedly of all the women on the show she probably has the most appeal for straight guys (ok, after Jennifer Beals and Sarah Shahi)).
posted by MillMan at 12:50 PM on June 13, 2007


Chop busting always welcome. I'm just a little DEFENSIVE!
posted by serazin at 12:55 PM on June 13, 2007


Almost every woman in the top 20 of this list is also on my personal (informal) list.

Sarah Shahi... phreeeow.

Yep, sexist and narrow, but what do you want from a Hot 100 list??

Oh and re: Helen Mirren, agreed. Hot, without qualification.
posted by zoogleplex at 12:58 PM on June 13, 2007


Tho I really, really think Jennifer Connelly should be a LOT higher up.
posted by zoogleplex at 1:02 PM on June 13, 2007


Speaking in my official capacity as a relatively-normal heterosexual male, the Maxim list sucks. Sure there are some genuinely attractive women on it, but the prioritization reeks of PR negotiations and if-in-doubt-we-go-blonde-or-big-boobs.

Not that I blame them... they're Maxim, I'm hardly going to hold them to high standards of objectivity or professional ethics (although "Second Life Girl?" seriously???). But I wanted to clarify that this topic isn't a comparison between "lesbian taste" and "straight guy taste" by any stretch of the imagination.
posted by Riki tiki at 1:02 PM on June 13, 2007


This straight guy thinks Ellen's kinda cute.

The thing is, if Ellen were attracted to guys, came to a party and told me jokes all night until milk came out of my nose, I'd ask her to do me right there, and my wife wouldn't even mind. The new American Express commercial where all the famous folks are sitting around talking about the environment, and she contributes by talking about how her bathing suit always bursts into flames? Priceless...

What do you mean, "even?" Hellen Mirren is just hot. I saw The Queen last week, and even as Queen Elizabeth II she was hot.

Case in point.
posted by thanotopsis at 1:06 PM on June 13, 2007


Chop busting always welcome. I'm just a little DEFENSIVE!

Don't sweat it. But I believe that attractiveness whether straight or gay, male or female has kess to do with 'independence' and all that jazz than visceral 'she/he's/it's got a cute ass/boobs/tentacles' responses. These are primal insticts we're dealing with here.
posted by jonmc at 1:07 PM on June 13, 2007


thanotopsis: Ellen's a funny lady, but my finding her attractive has to do with the cute smile.
posted by jonmc at 1:08 PM on June 13, 2007


Helen Mirren...Tina Fey...*fans self*
posted by everichon at 1:08 PM on June 13, 2007


Oh, and Ellen? Yeah, totally. She's a very funny, weird woman.
posted by everichon at 1:09 PM on June 13, 2007


Gotta go with the lesbians, here.
posted by brundlefly at 1:17 PM on June 13, 2007


I wouldn't say these women are "hot." They are most certainly attractive and very beautiful though.

Yes, there is a difference in my mind.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 1:26 PM on June 13, 2007


Famke Janssen only on 51? You must be kidding. Tall women are awesome.

40 Clea DuVall is the only picture that to me, straight male, has a lesbians-only vibe. For the rest; great women.
posted by jouke at 1:38 PM on June 13, 2007


It's the rare woman who can be attractive after the slathering of makeup, airbrushing and odd lighting of those maxim pictures.
posted by 517 at 1:40 PM on June 13, 2007


I'm thinking Chloe Sevigny (left) in If These Walls Could Talk 2 and Mary Stuart Masterson in Some Kind of Wonderful or Fried Green Tomatoes.

Yeah, I swoon for butch blondes.
posted by desjardins at 1:40 PM on June 13, 2007


Jolie used to be incredible, but she looks like a pile of bones and sinew now. Not hot.
posted by Liosliath at 1:41 PM on June 13, 2007


The list is but one more insult to my Paris Hilton!
posted by Postroad at 1:43 PM on June 13, 2007


No Saffron Burrows?
posted by liam at 1:54 PM on June 13, 2007


I've always thought that magazines like this are for closeted gay men, since they very often feature ridiculously skinny women with not much in the way of hips or boobs or butts (like Jessica Alba). It's easier to hide your homosexuality from your frat brothers if the woman you're masturbating to could be Orlando Bloom's body double.

Case in point: Diora Baird. Beautiful woman with, you know, curves, and they make her wear a shirt that flattens her chest as much as possible. What the hell?

I'm reasonably straight, and I like women who look like women. I'll never understand straight guys who like scrawny, underfed women.
posted by hifiparasol at 1:59 PM on June 13, 2007


I'd make a killing selling them ladies some sammiches.
posted by doctorschlock at 2:07 PM on June 13, 2007


They do an awful lot of back patting about how they're not shallow like Maxim readers for a list that in the end is a celebration of traditional beauty. The only women in the top 50 that might raise an eyebrow on a straight male list are some of the "older" women -and Jodie, Helen, and Meryl all made equivalent straight lists when they were in "their prime"- and Ellen DeGeneres. Wake me up when someone who looks like Lea Delaria cracks the top twenty.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 2:08 PM on June 13, 2007


Tina Fey is as high octane boner fuel as you can get. She has it all: Funny. Smart. Pretty. Sinfully eyes. Competent. Insecure in all the right ways. She has a cool scar. And it must be said - a sweet ass. I also note that as she grow in popularity her neckline plunges. And I approve.

Women. If you cry out for a role model seek Ms. Fey.

And yes Helen Mirren is a definitely a PMTILF (post menopausal thespian I'd like to fuck).

Rock solid ladies. Well done.
posted by tkchrist at 2:19 PM on June 13, 2007


“I'm reasonably straight, and I like women who look like women. I'll never understand straight guys who like scrawny, underfed women.”

I strongly prefer skinny women. It's certainly not a preference I chose. But I think there's a fairly plausible explanation for this preference, independent of cultural ideals and media images (which certainly play a very large role): skinny women look more like adolescent women.

In my case, it's not at all that skinny women look like men. Because I can say with certainty that skinny women don't look anything at all like men to my eyes.

But I also strongly prefer "cute" to "beautiful/sexy", which is also obviously an adolescent characteristic. I think that for some reason my ideal of feminine beauty got "stuck" at the adolescent stage. In retrospect, I wonder if this isn't just chance side-effect of my maturing sexuality. As an adult, I don't have even as remotely a powerful sex-drive as I did as an adolescent. During my teen years, I thought about almost nothing else than girls. And girls' bodies. I can still quite easily recall the intensity of this attraction.

Maybe I was no more this way than the typical teen male. But I've never felt as strongly about women and sex as an adult as I did as a teen. So adolescent women remained the paragon of sexual attractiveness in my unconscious. This has translated into a preference for skinnier and cuter women by me as an adult. That's just a theory.

Speaking of this ideal, though...Scarlett Johansson. Wow. I've only recently noticed some photos of her and how amazingly beautiful and attractive she is to me.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:22 PM on June 13, 2007


Jennifer Garner is hotter than Emma Thompson? As if!

And by that you mean, "As if ... anyone could think otherwise!"
posted by pardonyou?


No, no, no. Jennifer Garner falls into the too-skinny-to-be-hot category. Call me when she's eaten some pancakes.

Nthing Helen Mirren is hot hot hot.
posted by rtha at 2:26 PM on June 13, 2007


Ready to blow your mind?

Tina Fey covering the Maxim 100 list on SNL's Weekend Update.
posted by phaedon at 2:27 PM on June 13, 2007


I think that for some reason my ideal of feminine beauty got "stuck" at the adolescent stage.

At this point, I envision the discussion heading southward at a quickening pace...
posted by mstefan at 2:29 PM on June 13, 2007


Though she still looks good today, Helen Mirren circa the movie 2010 is the best of all possible Helen Mirrens.
posted by aerotive at 2:29 PM on June 13, 2007


Eight of the women (nine, if you count Drew Barrymore) are openly lesbian or bisexual; they're noted with an asterisk (*) next to their name.

Why Maris, you boy of spring, you coy thang ... you drag king!
posted by rob511 at 2:41 PM on June 13, 2007


Thanks for the explanation, Etherial Bligh.

Oh, and let me add to the rousing chorus of men made tumescent by Tina Fey. Holy Christ. Holy Christ. She's number one on my Freebie List.
posted by hifiparasol at 2:47 PM on June 13, 2007


"Though she still looks good today, Helen Mirren circa the movie 2010 is the best of all possible Helen Mirrens."

Um... Excalibur, hello?? Mesh dress!?

I'm totally with you on Tina Fey, too. Add "sharp as a tack" and "self-driven successful/independently wealthy" to her CV.
posted by zoogleplex at 2:59 PM on June 13, 2007


Good, Zooey Deschanel isn't on the list. I'm keeping her for myself.
posted by emelenjr at 3:01 PM on June 13, 2007


Back in college I had this picture from Rolling Stone cut out and taped up on my wall as my sole pinup. The ladies approved.
posted by uri at 3:35 PM on June 13, 2007 [1 favorite]


Sara Ramirez (#80) -- her cleavage has cleavage!!! I am new to breasts. Is this common?
posted by stupidsexyFlanders at 3:59 PM on June 13, 2007 [2 favorites]


Sara Ramirez (#80) -- her cleavage has cleavage!!! I am new to breasts. Is this common?

Sadly, not as common as some would like.
posted by rtha at 4:13 PM on June 13, 2007


Poop. This list excludes Anoushka Shankar.
posted by chuckdarwin at 4:15 PM on June 13, 2007


I'm so glad Amanda Beard isn't on this list. I'm so sick of seeing her on ESPN in between highlights of pitchers grabbing their crotches and commercials for Lamasil. As if, finally, an excuse to show some tits on a channel dedicated to sports.
posted by phaedon at 4:39 PM on June 13, 2007


I'm reasonably straight, and I like women who look like women. I'll never understand straight guys who like scrawny, underfed women.

I heard a theory, this is just a theory, mind you, that men who are usually attracted to the "scrawny, underfed women" are those who are deeply insecure, awkward around women and didn't get much during high school so they gravitate towards the body types that most resemble a male's.

I hate this theory, because I am a scrawny, underfed women but I have seen some evidence of such of late.

Anyway, what does it matter? Beauty really is the eye of the beholder and I'm constantly baffled by the choices others make in their taste for men/women. And it's better that way. If we were all attracted Diora Baird types, that'd leave a lot of out in the cold.
posted by liquorice at 4:41 PM on June 13, 2007


Any list that does not have Famke in the top ten is a list that was poorly compiled!
posted by Ber at 4:56 PM on June 13, 2007


Famke is my dream girl.
posted by brundlefly at 5:12 PM on June 13, 2007


Good, Zooey Deschanel isn't on the list. I'm keeping her for myself.

Sorry, emelenjr, but you and I are going to have to have some type of fight or deadly contest. That's my fiancée you're talking about. I haven't told Zooey yet, obviously, but stil...
posted by Soulfather at 5:33 PM on June 13, 2007 [1 favorite]


I hate this theory, because I am a scrawny, underfed women

liquorice, I feel like sort of a jerk now, and I'm sorry if I made it seem like I think (a) only one kind of woman is attractive, or (b) thin women aren't attractive, or even (c) anyone in their right mind should give a shit about what I find attractive. It'd be totally reasonable for someone to read my comment that way.

In the long run, you're right: It doesn't matter at all if someone likes fat people or skinny people or busty women or guys with broad shoulders or vice versa or whatever. I'd never judge someone based on what they're attracted to.

I've been sitting here a while trying to think of a way to better say what I'm trying to say, but I can't. I guess what it boils down to is this:

* Conventional Wisdom more or less holds that straight males respond to boobies. Women flash their racks to get better tables in restaurants, women are always having to say things like "my eyes are up here," et cetera et cetera.

* Maxim and its ilk are magazines that present an unreasonable standard of beauty to straight men. I think we all more or less agree on this tacitly before beginning this discussion. I mean, we're not Fark, right?

* It seems strange to me that when Maxim would make its "Hot 100" list (which, Christ, fuck you, Maxim), it would decide to include a voluptuous woman, yet go to lengths to de-ephasize her breasts and hips.

*I don't friggin' get it. Maxim's market research is broader than my personal experience, so it sort of bears out that what men really want are skinny women without a speck of fat on them anywhere.

*That is all.
posted by hifiparasol at 6:11 PM on June 13, 2007


In other news, every single user on MeFi is a Jason Kottke sockpuppet.
posted by spiderwire at 6:14 PM on June 13, 2007 [2 favorites]


spiderwire outed as Kottke! See above comment for proof!
posted by cgc373 at 6:17 PM on June 13, 2007


spiderwire outed as Kottke! See above comment for proof!
posted by spiderwire at 6:19 PM on June 13, 2007


oh, goddamnit
posted by spiderwire at 6:19 PM on June 13, 2007


Hmm. Now that I've posted my comment, and upon rereading it, I find it utterly unfunny. And a little gauche. In an attempt to recover, I will admit to spiderwire privately, here in small type, that I am Spartacus/jkottke/whomever, so as to lift the burden of original unfunny comment content, by adding other unfunny content. I'll keep going if necessary.
posted by cgc373 at 6:19 PM on June 13, 2007


oh, goddamnit
posted by cgc373 at 6:20 PM on June 13, 2007


Nice save, if I do say so myself.
posted by spiderwire at 6:22 PM on June 13, 2007


“Conventional Wisdom more or less holds that straight males respond to boobies. Women flash their racks to get better tables in restaurants, women are always having to say things like ‘my eyes are up here,’ et cetera et cetera.”

I believe that men do this because I've seen them do this and because I've heard women frequently describing/complaining about how men do this. But I don't. I hardly notice a woman's breasts. I don't look at her behind, either. All I really concentrate on is the face. So I wonder if that isn't a factor in the skinny thing.

Suddenly I'm wondering if women think I'm gay or just plain weird because I don't look at their breasts when I'm talking to them. Surely other men are like me, aren't they?
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 6:29 PM on June 13, 2007


Some men are like you, most some aren't, EB.

Well played, spiderwire. Well played.
posted by cgc373 at 6:43 PM on June 13, 2007


EB, I never used to pay that much attention to breasts, apparently I'm naturally an "L&A man"... but that changed after I had a longish relationship with a woman with really rather nice largish breasts. So now, I notice them a lot more.

Then again, I notice them a lot less than some of my friends, who apparently can't see any part of a woman but her breasts; that's where they start on their visual appreciation.

I start with the face first, always. :)
posted by zoogleplex at 6:44 PM on June 13, 2007


Surely other men are like me, aren't they?

I knew a guy once. He was straight. He's married now, to a nice lady. I doubt anyone thinks you're gay.

It's weird, because I find my own attraction to big breasts and big butts kind of embarrassing and worry that people will think I'm childish. You mentioned adolescence earlier; I wonder if most people would find your tastes more mature than mine.

I can't help it, and I don't fight it. Me likey the curves. 'S just how God made me.
posted by hifiparasol at 6:48 PM on June 13, 2007


“Some men are like you, most some aren't, EB.”

Ah, that's a relief. And, zoogleplex, it's interesting that you changed a little bit on that. I wouldn't expect that to change at all, really.

To be honest, I am a great admirer of one particular aspect of female anatomy. But I'm usually not able to focus on it until we're in the bedroom. :)

“It's weird, because I find my own attraction to big breasts and big butts kind of embarrassing and worry that people will think I'm childish. You mentioned adolescence earlier; I wonder if most people would find your tastes more mature than mine.”

I think the two things are separate, at least in the sense that's important to your statement. So many men focus on big breasts and butts that if that makes them childish, it'd be effectively saying that most men are childish. Which, come to think of it, is something I've heard occasionally from women.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 6:55 PM on June 13, 2007


Who is "too skinny" on that list?? Jesus Christ... please get off that... you sound like every jealous fat hausfrau at the Target checkout counter.

Queen Latifah and Jessica Biel are actual lesbians- although they are not a couple or anything.

And who is actually shocked that lesbians are not happy with Maxxim's list? I love how the After Ellen list has to include older broads-- so the lesbians won't appear to be "shallow" like those evil heterosexual males.

People like to say they think Helen Mirren is hot solely for the hipper-than-thou effect.
posted by wfc123 at 7:27 PM on June 13, 2007


Um, wfc123, I think you're looking for the Fark forums. Down the hall, third door on the left. The door with the Happy Gilmore poster on it.

Bligh, I don't think you're claiming that men have the market cornered on immaturity, but I've known plenty of people of both genders whose brains stopped working somewhere south of the chin. I think this notion that women are less visceral than men and can appreciate personality more than looks is a myth whose time has come.
posted by hifiparasol at 7:34 PM on June 13, 2007


Er, wfc, I don't have a problem with skinny - I just remember what Jolie used to look like, which was teh reason I was crazy about her.

I haven't said I think Mirren is hot, but she is - and I could give a shit what anyone else thinks. (Goldie Hawn, for example, is not.)
posted by Liosliath at 9:27 PM on June 13, 2007


With 4 out of the 6 female leads on this list, Grey's Anatomy is just as hot, proportionally speaking, as The L Word. Kate Walsh, Katherine Heigl, Sandra Oh, and Sara Ramirez. It's a good show for the visually-oriented.
posted by expialidocious at 9:47 PM on June 13, 2007


Just so that we can get some multi-ethnic objectification in, I include Top 50 Hottest Superstar Sisters, the top 5 sexy Asian women (mostly Indian), and the ultimate Asian hotties list.

I've always been more intrigued by the women who look a little off or unusual, but have a compelling or striking look that draws you in the more you see them. Such as Deborah Kara Unger (from the movie Stander).
posted by BrotherCaine at 12:31 AM on June 14, 2007


I'd be intrigued to see a most beautiful older women list; Sophia Loren, and Sigorney Weaver come to mind.
posted by BrotherCaine at 12:35 AM on June 14, 2007


hifiparasol: *I don't friggin' get it. Maxim's market research is broader than my personal experience, so it sort of bears out that what men really want are skinny women without a speck of fat on them anywhere.


I think a lot of it comes down to attainability (or lack thereof as the case may be). People tend to desire what is less common. It’s why Asian women use bleaching cream, Africans iron their hair and Anglo-Saxons diet (generalisation obviously). I would think that “naturally” more men are attracted to types of women with the bigger boobs and ass because it’s a symbol of fertility yada yada but that doesn’t discount the huge impact of social conditioning either. I don’t know where I’m going with this. I guess it boils down to the fact that attraction is a complicated thing and Maxim is just pumping out whoever’s “hot right now”. In many cases it's famous = hawt.

Because seriously? Avril Lavigne? Eeeeeeew.
posted by liquorice at 1:46 AM on June 14, 2007


I like to think of myself as a fairly articulate person, but after looking at both of these lists, I must confess that I have no idea what "hot" means.

I thought I did. Apparently I was completely wrong. Boy, is my face red.
posted by louche mustachio at 2:24 AM on June 14, 2007


liquorice: I don’t know where I’m going with this.

You just summed up my whole argument.

In many cases it's famous = hawt.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the final answer.

And despite it all (and despite the 3.5 gallons of makeup per eyelid), I actually kind of find Avril Lavigne sort of hot... (cower) (wince)
posted by hifiparasol at 7:51 AM on June 14, 2007


I heard a theory, this is just a theory, mind you, that men who are usually attracted to the "scrawny, underfed women" are those who are deeply insecure, awkward around women and didn't get much during high school so they gravitate towards the body types that most resemble a male's.

I'm a deeply insecure, awkward around women guy who didn't get much (in fact zero) during high school and I much prefer curvy, Sara Ramirez types to the stick-figures.

Just sayin'.,
posted by jonmc at 9:06 AM on June 14, 2007


Wow re: Tina Fey. Who knew so many guys had the hots for her? I learn something new every day.

(There's a copy of the FHM "Women of Buffy" issue hidden in the house somewhere -- Charisma Carpenter, mrrrrow!)
posted by bitter-girl.com at 1:45 PM on June 14, 2007


Regarding the "my eyes are up here" thingie, I thought I'd throw out there that I'm a lesbian with big boobs. I've had to poke more girlfriends in the ribs to look up and pay attention to what I'm saying than I've had to chide boyfriends (back when I had them).

A bit of lechery is kind of cute on girls, tho. And there I go being sexist again.
posted by houseofdanie at 3:55 PM on June 14, 2007


It's nice to hear about women with whom I truly have so much in common!!

*ducks fast, runs*
posted by zoogleplex at 4:19 PM on June 14, 2007


Neve Campbell, Katee Sackhoff, Liv Tyler in the final quarter?

Lesbians, I may have dreamed of being one of you, but we are many miles apart. My most sincere apologies, yours in disappoinment, the surprisingly red-blooded and not-a-lesbian-in-a-man's-body
NinjaTadpole

PS. I thought we had something!
posted by NinjaTadpole at 4:32 PM on June 14, 2007


PS. I know that no list can please every woman, but Chan Marshall should earn some merit honour. I mean, good grief ladies, Sandra Oh is on the list!
posted by NinjaTadpole at 4:43 PM on June 14, 2007 [1 favorite]


I thoroughly disapprove of the inclusion of Alyson Hanigan but not Emma Caulfield.

I also found it interesting that they had a picture of Lucy Lawless as a blonde, Sarah Michelle Gellar as a brunette and uh, Stockard Channing in a bad wig.
posted by crush-onastick at 5:07 PM on June 14, 2007


Pistols at dawn, Soulfather.
posted by emelenjr at 3:12 PM on June 15, 2007


40 Clea DuVall is the only picture that to me, straight male, has a lesbians-only vibe.

a bit late to the party here. linked from another thread...

gotta say that i was surprised by how incredibly straight the afterellen list looked.

i know more dykes than you could poke a stick at, and it wasn't until #96 (Jackie Warner) that i came across a woman who looked like she actually belonged to the scene (surprise, surprise: she is a dyke - asterisks in the list indicate gay/bi women).

Pink might fit in too, but apart from that, it was pretty much all the same hollywood tabloid fodder that you would expect from any mens' favourites list (the older women excepted).

maybe i'm just exposed to a particularly butch crowd, or maybe things are different in america, but we watch shows like the L Word & complain "what's with all these hollywood model types? why didn't they cast women who actually look like lesbians...?"
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:43 AM on June 17, 2007


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