Roxanne Shanté: Who Needs a Royalty Check
October 22, 2007 9:04 PM Subscribe
Roxanne Shanté may be the only person whose Wikipedia entry lists her occupation, truthfully, as "rapper, psychologist." In the credits for the Beef 3 DVD she explains how her record contract's throwaway education clause paid for her to get her PhD. She also shares the backstory of Roxanne's Revenge. Some more classic Shanté: with a skinny Biz Markie in 1986, BDP vs. Juice Crew, an old Wack It video. [via]
"I socked it to them for over 175,000 dollars worth of education."
I can't stop smiling. That is such a great story!
posted by mediareport at 9:24 PM on October 22, 2007
I can't stop smiling. That is such a great story!
posted by mediareport at 9:24 PM on October 22, 2007
I grew up in Brooklyn and Roxanne Shante and The Real Roxanne's battles were legend!
I'm forwarding this link to EVERYONE!
posted by notjustfoxybrown at 9:27 PM on October 22, 2007
I'm forwarding this link to EVERYONE!
posted by notjustfoxybrown at 9:27 PM on October 22, 2007
Wait, so this is not the REAL Roxanne?
(no disrespect, just want to keep the pot stirred)
posted by mwhybark at 9:34 PM on October 22, 2007
(no disrespect, just want to keep the pot stirred)
posted by mwhybark at 9:34 PM on October 22, 2007
Wow. I haven't listened to nor thought about UTFO in like 25+ years. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I can still remember breakdancing to Roxanne at summer camp in the early '80s.
posted by shoepal at 9:40 PM on October 22, 2007
posted by shoepal at 9:40 PM on October 22, 2007
A heart-warming tale of someone screwing over their record company. Makes a nice change from the way that usually goes.
posted by jacquilynne at 9:41 PM on October 22, 2007
posted by jacquilynne at 9:41 PM on October 22, 2007
Not only a fabulous story of stickin' it to the man, it is a great story of someone who rose above all the expectations to make something of themselves. More then a few currently famous young 'uns should take notice.
posted by Bovine Love at 9:49 PM on October 22, 2007
posted by Bovine Love at 9:49 PM on October 22, 2007
Boy, this story made my day. Damn.
He said, "You call yourself an MC?" I said, "This is true."
He said, "Explain to me really what MCs must do."
I said, "Listen very close 'cause I don't say this every day:
My name is Roxanne, and they call me Shanté."
posted by blucevalo at 9:56 PM on October 22, 2007
He said, "You call yourself an MC?" I said, "This is true."
He said, "Explain to me really what MCs must do."
I said, "Listen very close 'cause I don't say this every day:
My name is Roxanne, and they call me Shanté."
posted by blucevalo at 9:56 PM on October 22, 2007
It's kind of amazing how much less fluid rappers were back then.
posted by delmoi at 9:59 PM on October 22, 2007
posted by delmoi at 9:59 PM on October 22, 2007
I knew she was was a therapist, but I didn't know she had a PhD, and I sure didn't know she got it on the back of her record contract! Way to go, Roxanne!
posted by YoungAmerican at 10:02 PM on October 22, 2007
posted by YoungAmerican at 10:02 PM on October 22, 2007
What a great story. I remember seeing Whack It on MTV raps, and deciding that Whack It would not be included in the borrowed hip-hop slang I would use at school the next day.
posted by Benjamin Nushmutt at 10:11 PM on October 22, 2007
posted by Benjamin Nushmutt at 10:11 PM on October 22, 2007
Fantastic! Wonderful!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 11:13 PM on October 22, 2007
posted by flapjax at midnite at 11:13 PM on October 22, 2007
It's kind of amazing how much less fluid rappers were back then.
Well, yeah, you know, you're right, at least in the case of that linked clip with Biz Markie. I love the old school beatboxing he was doing, the nice slow tempo, but Roxanne wasn't all that great that night, at least on evidence of that clip. Her delivery was kinda stiff, wasn't it? Still, rap was young, and the partiers in the place to be were having a damn good time, and that's what so much of it was about anyway!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 11:19 PM on October 22, 2007
Well, yeah, you know, you're right, at least in the case of that linked clip with Biz Markie. I love the old school beatboxing he was doing, the nice slow tempo, but Roxanne wasn't all that great that night, at least on evidence of that clip. Her delivery was kinda stiff, wasn't it? Still, rap was young, and the partiers in the place to be were having a damn good time, and that's what so much of it was about anyway!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 11:19 PM on October 22, 2007
Those Beef DVD's are great -- though I'm pretty sure that the story of the Roxanne beefs came from Beef 2 rather than Beef 3 because I haven't seen Beef 3 and I have seen this.
OK. Beef 3 is all very recent Beef. This is from Beef 2.
Joe Bob says, 'Check it out'.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 12:31 AM on October 23, 2007
OK. Beef 3 is all very recent Beef. This is from Beef 2.
Joe Bob says, 'Check it out'.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 12:31 AM on October 23, 2007
I wonder how many other rappers have something like this in their contracts? They COULD set a good example for once and say I'm going to college. Probably a good percentage of kids would be turned on to education instead of a "Thug life".
posted by Mastercheddaar at 5:35 AM on October 23, 2007
posted by Mastercheddaar at 5:35 AM on October 23, 2007
Good for her, but sad in a way. I'll bet that was the last education clause ever signed in the entertainment business.
posted by kuujjuarapik at 5:42 AM on October 23, 2007
posted by kuujjuarapik at 5:42 AM on October 23, 2007
I'm glad people liked it. I first learned about Roxanne Shanté in college when my ethnomusicologist hiphop loving friend (in the via link) gave me a mixtape with MC Lyte's classic diss "Steady Fucking" on it that takes that KRS One "Roxanne Shanté is only good for steady fucking" line and turns it into the chorus repeated over and over as MC Lyte just goes OFF. Needless to say, I couldn't find that song online, but here are the lyrics. At the time I was like "wtf, who?"
posted by jessamyn at 6:36 AM on October 23, 2007
posted by jessamyn at 6:36 AM on October 23, 2007
My heart is aflutter. I love rapfilter, and this is awesome. Wow, I had no clue. And Cornell too. And she has a practice! I want to get treated by Roxanne Shante.
posted by cashman at 7:11 AM on October 23, 2007
posted by cashman at 7:11 AM on October 23, 2007
Funny, I just revisited "Whack It". I'd never paid much attention to the lyrics back in junior school - but she's totally taking the mickey out of the crossover stuff that other female rappers like JJ Fadd and Salt'n'Pepa were
dealing in at the time! Somehow this flew over the head of my 14-year-old self.
posted by tantrumthecat at 7:20 AM on October 23, 2007
dealing in at the time! Somehow this flew over the head of my 14-year-old self.
posted by tantrumthecat at 7:20 AM on October 23, 2007
Me, the Rox,
give up the box?
So you can brag about it for the next six blocks?
Shee, ya must be crazy.
You goin' too fast.
Doctor I don't know where your hands been last!
I remember introducing UTFO and Roxanne to some of the whitest people on the whole planet in grade school, thanks for the great links!
posted by vito90 at 8:48 AM on October 23, 2007
give up the box?
So you can brag about it for the next six blocks?
Shee, ya must be crazy.
You goin' too fast.
Doctor I don't know where your hands been last!
I remember introducing UTFO and Roxanne to some of the whitest people on the whole planet in grade school, thanks for the great links!
posted by vito90 at 8:48 AM on October 23, 2007
This post is amazing, but I just want to be clear. Hip Hop did not start in Queens, and Shan was making shit up. I still love the Juice Crew, but he was completely wrong.
posted by shmegegge at 8:52 AM on October 23, 2007
posted by shmegegge at 8:52 AM on October 23, 2007
Great post, jessamyn. In junior high I had the UTFO album and, for some reason (because she later turned out to be my antithesis), my sister had the Roxanne album. I'm pretty sure I later stole it from her.
posted by sleepy pete at 9:04 AM on October 23, 2007
posted by sleepy pete at 9:04 AM on October 23, 2007
Aren't most PhD's fully funded anyway?
posted by decoherence at 10:20 AM on October 23, 2007
posted by decoherence at 10:20 AM on October 23, 2007
Aren't most PhD's fully funded anyway?
Some are, some aren't. The label paid for her undergrad education as well, which is rarely fully funded.
posted by jessamyn at 10:30 AM on October 23, 2007
Some are, some aren't. The label paid for her undergrad education as well, which is rarely fully funded.
posted by jessamyn at 10:30 AM on October 23, 2007
MTV's Rapper of the Year Lil' Wyane a.k.a. Weezy (much ballyhooed in Mefi's last recent rapfilter enrolled in Texas University and majoring in the same thing as it were.
posted by Student of Man at 12:51 PM on October 23, 2007
posted by Student of Man at 12:51 PM on October 23, 2007
Texas University? I think you're thinking of California University, where the kids from Beverly Hills 90210 matriculated. Lil' Wayne is at the University of Houston.
posted by box at 2:20 PM on October 23, 2007
posted by box at 2:20 PM on October 23, 2007
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