...because any course of action can be made out to accord with the rule...

December 8, 2007 11:44 PM

Is Kant wrong for America, or is deontism defensible? (via)

The analysis of rule-following provided by the second link is truly fascinating. Some good discussion is occuring in this original post. For me personally, although the apparent transcendental power that mr. Orange Tan wants to grant the 'making of a rule' is certainly not in line with the later Wittgensteinian, his point concerning the insensibility of time-coordinated mooing can be interpreted as an argument for the grounding of the existence of rules in actual social practicability.

posted by Alex404 (22 comments total)

Does anybody get hit with something in the nuts in either of these videos?
posted by Slack-a-gogo at 11:56 PM on December 8, 2007 [1 favorite]

Come again?
posted by phaedon at 11:56 PM on December 8, 2007

his point concerning the insensibility of time-coordinated mooing can be interpreted as an argument for the grounding of the existence of rules in actual social practicability.

*passes bong*
posted by phaedon at 11:59 PM on December 8, 2007 [2 favorites]

You Kant always get what you want, I suppose.
posted by champthom at 12:00 AM on December 9, 2007 [2 favorites]

I myself am willing to speak in favor of the two o'clock moo. I think it's a bully idea. Just what we need, what what.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:12 AM on December 9, 2007

Awesome. More posts like this, please.
posted by Ryvar at 12:32 AM on December 9, 2007 [1 favorite]

You know, I was feeling a little exhausted after working on some last-minute additions to my term paper, so I cook up a frozen burrito, sit down in the comfy chair in front of the "family computer", open up MetaFilter and what do I find?

A political attack ad against Immanuel Kant and some gay dude singing about authoritarianism with puppets.

Tomorrow I'm writing Wal Mart and am going to ask them very nicely to stop putting PCP in my burritos.
posted by Avenger at 12:39 AM on December 9, 2007 [3 favorites]

In protest of utilitarianist commie parasites at Disney ripping off her highly original work, Ayn Rand's preschool program Galt and the Railroad Spikes will no longer feature any puppets, singing or fun.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:42 AM on December 9, 2007 [3 favorites]

You Kant get what you want, 'til you know what you want.
posted by paulsc at 12:50 AM on December 9, 2007

Get your own fucking bong.
posted by ClanvidHorse at 1:24 AM on December 9, 2007

Someone should create an extended version of the rules song and append some real "rules" we have.

Sprite #1: "And no sharing your internet connection with your friends"

Sprite #2: "Unless you report any obscene pictures they have to the government!"
posted by parallax7d at 3:30 AM on December 9, 2007

The truly Invisible Hand is that which disappears entirely up the bunghole of a muppet.
*deep draw off wizard shaped bong*
posted by maryh at 3:36 AM on December 9, 2007

I am highly in favor of philosophical attack ads. It would be awesome to have a whole website dedicated to this theme.
posted by oddman at 4:49 AM on December 9, 2007

I am not able to stop myself, in this collective relational context known as the blue, from noticing that there is a certain Wittgensteinian family resemblance between Immanuel Kant and A Manual Cunt though I suspect Immanuel might, if he were alive, raise some transcendental objections since he was never able to know the thing-in-itself which may be why he wanted to treat others as ends rather than means.
posted by srboisvert at 4:56 AM on December 9, 2007 [1 favorite]

I hear a song coming on(via discussion in Original Post).
No, not that song.
posted by MtDewd at 6:54 AM on December 9, 2007

Would Peter Singer find the use of even fake animals to promote deontological ethics defensible?
posted by SteveTheRed at 9:07 AM on December 9, 2007 [1 favorite]

"his point concerning the insensibility of time-coordinated mooing can be interpreted as an argument for the grounding of the existence of rules in actual social practicability."

But also no.
posted by elpapacito at 9:36 AM on December 9, 2007

Oh, thank you so very much. I enjoyed this post.



I was never a big fan of the word practical. For me, it represents a imagination fairy land were all the philosophy classroom arguments ran off to when they had nowhere else to go.
posted by Kudos at 9:43 AM on December 9, 2007

Someone needs to sing "Rules are Made for a Reason" to the TSA.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 10:03 AM on December 9, 2007

LOLDEONTOLOGISTS
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:53 AM on December 9, 2007 [1 favorite]

I thought the Kant attack ad was poorly done. It wasn't funny. Even if you know about Kant.
posted by jayder at 6:17 PM on December 9, 2007

I don't know, I enjoyed the ad. However, regardless of the merits of the video itself, it was followed by a genuinely amusing youTube comment! I didn't think such things existed!

Yeah, and those lame-ass idiots running Kant's campaign won't even take this on until it's too late.
We shoulda gone with Hagel, I tell ya. But, no, "Hagel's not electable," everybody said.
Now we're gonna get stuck with 4 years of nothing but aphorisms. Damn.

posted by Squid Voltaire at 1:02 PM on December 10, 2007