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Sustainable Development or Green Menace?
January 16, 2009 8:16 AM   Subscribe

Apparently some members of the far-right have figured it out! Environmentalists are communists! Being green is tantamount to an attack on "Western culture, and the Judeo-Christian and Islamic religions". Think this is just an American phenomenon? Think again...
posted by JVA (27 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite

 
*looks for Green on Red album*
posted by jonmc at 8:22 AM on January 16, 2009


Wonder if they get into fisticuffs with all those blood-and-soil Volk Third Positionists? Do us all a favour.
posted by Abiezer at 8:25 AM on January 16, 2009


Sustainable Development or Oxymoron?
posted by symbollocks at 8:31 AM on January 16, 2009


Seems like just yesterday the Czech Republic was the coolest (in the social sense) country in the world, with a poet-president who was on the side of the angels on most issues. Now they've got a wingnut for president.

This bodes ill for the post-Obama United States. President Inhofe anyone?
posted by Creosote at 8:38 AM on January 16, 2009


I wish these lunatics would stop affixing Judeo to Christian. Don't try and claim my heritage for your horseshit, pal. Marx was a Jew.
posted by Astro Zombie at 8:41 AM on January 16, 2009 [2 favorites]


I wish these lunatics would stop affixing Judeo to Christian. Don't try and claim my heritage for your horseshit, pal. Marx was a Jew.

If they didn't put the "Judeo-" on there, people would be more likely to notice their screaming anti-semitism. The evangelicals aren't hardcore zionists because they like Jews, after all.
posted by Pope Guilty at 8:44 AM on January 16, 2009


Don't try and claim my heritage for your horseshit, pal. Marx was a Jew.

Those two sentences together are the most hilarious thing to be posted on Metafilter today.
posted by Krrrlson at 8:52 AM on January 16, 2009


I wish these lunatics would stop affixing Judeo to Christian. Don't try and claim my heritage for your horseshit, pal. Marx was a Jew.


I can't tell which of the fence you're on.
posted by Guy_Inamonkeysuit at 8:55 AM on January 16, 2009


Side. Which side of the fence.

My kingdom for an edit function.
posted by Guy_Inamonkeysuit at 9:09 AM on January 16, 2009


The Ideological Extremist Playbook.

1) Define everything and everyone you are against.
2) Hate them a lot.
3) As a handy intellectual timesaver, characterise your opponents as part of an interlinked nefarious conspiracy.
4) Be sure to mention that they are irrational, emotional and unreliable.
5) Scream bias at any and every opportunity when anyone presents, like, facts.
posted by MuffinMan at 9:11 AM on January 16, 2009 [3 favorites]


Creosote The most amusing things about affected anti-Commie Vaclav Klaus is that:

a) Far from being an active dissident during the Communist era, he was an extremely privileged civil servant;
b) He was elected by the Czech parliament to the (largely ceremonial) post of president with the support of (you guessed it) the ex-Communists;
c) He's good friends with ex-KGB agent Vladimir Putin.

Heh...
posted by Skeptic at 9:13 AM on January 16, 2009


I'm not a communist, I'm a royalist. make me king of yer country and I'll close all the coal mines and nuclear reactors. want an SUV and truck ban? done. I'll make some other slight changes as well but this is the important part, right?

your humble king,
krautland.
posted by krautland at 9:18 AM on January 16, 2009


Watermelons, eh? Green on the outside, red on the inside.
posted by codswallop at 9:19 AM on January 16, 2009 [1 favorite]


Here's my take on the right and anger, not very rational or well reasoned, but whatever. I'm pretty sure that a lot of these guys that start frothing at the mouth at the very mention of The U.N., Global Warming etc. are in the same demographic as the adverts for Viagra and Cialis that we see on TV all the time are aimed at. In other words, they have no problem getting their anger up at the slightest thing, yet down south things don't work so well. Maybe if they'd chill the fuck out, this energy that they expend getting all angry might instead be put to a more... ahem... practical use. They'd be happier and the rest of us wouldn't have to listen to their misdirected rage. Sadly of course, I don't see this happening any time soon, but it's a thought.
posted by ob at 9:21 AM on January 16, 2009


Isn't this just the old fight between humans as owners of land versus user of resources? One side believes the land they own is theirs to use however they see fit, versus those who see land as a variety of resources, not only for use by people, but by other species, too.

Government isn't taking away property rights for their own use (if all goes well), but to put a limit on what people do for posterity. I'm an eco-hippy bureaucrat, so you know where I sit on this. The problem is education - I'd like to think that people would change their minds if properly educated about the impacts of their actions (especially upon resources they enjoy), and reminded that they're not going to be here forever.

I really can't believe anyone has the viewpoint of Roark (in Ann Rand's Fountainhead) - that the earth is full of resources to maximize the potential of mankind. How can you look at a vibrant forest and think "that's a lot of lumber" without appreciating the nature of it all?
posted by filthy light thief at 9:26 AM on January 16, 2009


Oh snap. They figured me out. I guess if we socialists are going to be such a liability for movements and organizations, I'm just going to go ahead and sign up with the NRA.
posted by greekphilosophy at 9:57 AM on January 16, 2009


It seems like ultra-rightwing, hunker-in-the-bunker style ijits would LOVE solar panels. You don't have to get COMMIETRICITY from anyone, you can make your own like Baby Jebus intended.
posted by DU at 9:59 AM on January 16, 2009


if baby jesus wanted us to use solar panels, he wouldn't have made gas internal combustion generators.
posted by garlic at 10:09 AM on January 16, 2009


Have these people ever seen a communist country? Not exactly green paradises, you know.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 10:36 AM on January 16, 2009 [1 favorite]


Those two sentences together are the most hilarious thing to be posted on Metafilter today.

Must be a slow day at LGF...
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:55 AM on January 16, 2009


Marx was a Jew.

See! We told you, but nooooo, you insisted the jews and the commies weren't in league...

Have these people ever seen a communist country? Not exactly green paradises, you know.

Not sure I agree with that premise. Per capita energy consumption:

United States of America: 7794.8 kgoe/a
United Kingdom: 3918.1
Republic of Korea: 4346.5
Japan: 4040.4

People's Republic of China: 1138.3
People's Republic of Vietnam: 539.4
Democratic People's Republic of Korea: 894.1
Syrian Arab Republic: 981.7

Though there is one pinko stand out:

Canada: 8300.7
posted by Pollomacho at 12:11 PM on January 16, 2009


Not sure I agree with that premise.

Wasn't really a premise so much as a remark. I just found the whole concept of "environmentalist = communist" hilarious, especially with communism's fetishism of heavy industry.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 12:19 PM on January 16, 2009


人定胜天 "Man Must Conquer Nature." Not one of the Chairman's brighter thoughts.
posted by Abiezer at 1:07 PM on January 16, 2009


Though there is one pinko stand out:

Canada: 8300.7


It gets cold up here and if you put too many windows in your house you end up paying $300+ in power costs.
posted by Pseudology at 1:47 PM on January 16, 2009


Canada' extremely high per capita energy usage comes down to (a) weather; and (b) distance. It's a long way between cities up here, and it's farking cold sometimes, even along the south border edge.

OTOH, a whole lot of our energy comes from hydroelectricity, which is a pretty sweet power source.
posted by five fresh fish at 6:07 PM on January 16, 2009


"Canada' extremely high per capita energy usage comes down to (a) weather; and (b) distance."

And (c) a serious lack of insulation. Because, you know, supporting pretty good insulation in residences is practically communism.
posted by sneebler at 5:50 AM on January 18, 2009


If your Canadian home is more than a dozen years old, it is going to be about fifty percent less energy efficient than a home build to today's standards. A whole lot of that is due to technologies that simply did not exist a decade ago.

Anyhoo, I really doubt that insulation is the big solution. You care to back your statement up a bit, sneebler?
posted by five fresh fish at 9:21 AM on January 18, 2009


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