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posted by djgh (87 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

 
Oh God, how I wish Twitter would die already and never resurrect.
posted by ericb at 10:23 AM on April 10, 2009 [7 favorites]


God twitter sucks. No wait, let me rephrase in context: "hey God! Twitter sucks!"
posted by mcstayinskool at 10:24 AM on April 10, 2009


I guess this is religion for people too lazy to read four chapters of a book. Not even the whole chapters, mind you.
posted by desjardins at 10:28 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Oh Twitter, how I loathe you.
posted by Sargas at 10:30 AM on April 10, 2009


Guys, stay within the 140 character limit ... it's truncating, ruining the effect!

Guys? ...guys?...
posted by Devils Rancher at 10:30 AM on April 10, 2009


This one time I read a really terrible book. I never thought "How I wish books would die already and never resurrect". I blamed the bad content, not the presentation method.

I wonder why that is.
posted by Plutor at 10:31 AM on April 10, 2009


via @jgderuvo: Guys, stay within the 140 character limit ... it's truncating, ruining the effect!

Every year I turn to the Gospels to read these eternal words and every year they just...*chokes up a little*...it's just so true, you know?
posted by DU at 10:31 AM on April 10, 2009 [2 favorites]


@Plutor that's not really much of a defense.
posted by roll truck roll at 10:34 AM on April 10, 2009


Eh. Twitter gets mentioned and the usual lineup needs to get their two-minute hate on. And what's up with texting or this electronic mail thing, amirite?

As you were.
posted by middleclasstool at 10:36 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


My intense dislike of Twitter is documented in my comment history. But just for the sake of argument...

Might it not be said that Jesus too spoke in the common language of his place and time?

Any God I can imagine is great enough of spirit not to be distressed by what we perceive as the vulgarity of this church's evangelism.
posted by Joe Beese at 10:37 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Hey, well, as far as I'm concerned, progress peaked with frozen pizza.
posted by carsonb at 10:40 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


@centurion. LOL that's a big sword.


@marymagdlene0001 Just hangin' up here, babe. Check my facebook for latest crux pics.

You might be wondering how I'm posting from the cross and my hands are nailed. Well, come on, I am JESUS after all!

posted by Burhanistan at 10:40 AM on April 10, 2009


roll truck roll: "@Plutor that's not really much of a defense."

It wasn't meant to be. I'm not going to defend the content because I agree it sucks. I'm not going to defend Twitter because I think attacking Twitter is like painters attacking sculpture because "It's not real art".
posted by Plutor at 10:42 AM on April 10, 2009


Can we have a moratorium on posts that reference Twitter? The mad rush to bitch about Twitter in the comment threads is really getting irritating.
posted by brundlefly at 10:43 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


no one is attacking twitter because it's not "real art". They're attacking twitter because twitter is so annoying.
posted by delmoi at 10:47 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Eh. Twitter gets mentioned and the usual lineup needs to get their two-minute hate on. And what's up with texting or this electronic mail thing, amirite?

No, I tried -- I really tried. I was even beginning to like it, then their database took a shit and ate all my posts after a week. It's not standing up to either scrutiny or a plain old shake-out. If they ever restore my "twits" I'll probably go back, but they've been promising to fix the widespread bug for well over a month, I found out, after looking at their help forums. It doesn't inspire massive amounts of confidence in the platform.
posted by Devils Rancher at 10:48 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


It's called "twitter" for christ sakes. Posts are called "tweets." Tell me what I shouldn't be hating again?
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 10:51 AM on April 10, 2009 [3 favorites]


brundlefly: "Can we have a moratorium on posts that reference Twitter? The mad rush to bitch about Twitter in the comment threads is really getting irritating."

Let's talk about Orkut then. Oh wait...
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 10:53 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


I don't entirely disagree, Plutor, and in fact, I now see that I use Twitter more than you do.

Part of my job is sifting through a lot of discussions about new media gadgets to find what information from them is actually useful to my readers. And there's a certain group of people who instantly scoff at any criticism of whatever the the current toy is. And it just drives me up the wall.

Thing is, the medium does matter, and the medium does a fuck of a lot to dictate what will take place on the medium. So it's okay to ask bigger questions about Twitter (or about Second Life, or about Facebook, or whatever), to ask what kind of culture is fostered by aligning oneself with a certain communications tool. We don't have to be mindless adherents to whatever the cool developers in San Jose are telling us to do.
posted by roll truck roll at 10:53 AM on April 10, 2009 [4 favorites]


I think we all know that Twitter is good for things like giving a sketch of breaking stories like natural disasters or terrorist attacks, or really any crowd sourced reporting of something that is going on right now. The microblogging aspect is what makes the geezers and grumps whine, and probably for good reason. It might be good to recognize the difference between the former and the latter. You can appreciate the potential that a service like Twitter can offer while ignoring the stunts like the one that is the subject of this post and the pointless minutiae blogging. If you can't ignore the silly part, then at least try to make your snark witty or charming.
posted by Burhanistan at 10:54 AM on April 10, 2009


As is often the case, John Cleese has said it, so I don't have to.
posted by The Bellman at 10:58 AM on April 10, 2009 [2 favorites]


the microblogging aspect is what makes the geezers and grumps whine...

For me, it's more that a bunch of starry-eyed geeks with no business plan built the site out of pixie sticks and scotch tape.

1. Build site around flimsy idea & code.
2. ???
3. Google buys it!!
4. We hope.
posted by Devils Rancher at 10:58 AM on April 10, 2009


well, this project should pose some more interesting translation issues for religious scholars.



(and, on my (hypothetical) children's graves, this will be my ONLY twitter comment on mefi: my girlfriend just started following twitter on her phone and it is hella annoying. but i love her, so what can you do?)
posted by barrett caulk at 10:59 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


having a club sandwich for lunch
posted by JeffK at 10:59 AM on April 10, 2009


Oops. Wrong window.
posted by JeffK at 11:00 AM on April 10, 2009 [6 favorites]


For me, it's more that a bunch of starry-eyed geeks with no business plan built the site out of pixie sticks and scotch tape.


Well, if you can do it better then more power to you. But complaining about someone else's success won't get anyone very far.
posted by Burhanistan at 11:01 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]




Well, if you can do it better then more power to you. But complaining about someone else's success won't get anyone very far.

I'll give you that. I can't do it better. But if I screwed up their T-shirt order, I'd fully expect to be chastised. I'm complaining because I got pulled in by all the "Hey, come on, you Luddite! Twitter's GREAT!" posts here, and found out what a house of cards it was after the fact. Maybe they'll fix it, like I said up thread, and I'll come back. I can see its potential, but it's sorta beta-buggy right now.
posted by Devils Rancher at 11:06 AM on April 10, 2009


Hip Priest.
posted by kuujjuarapik at 11:07 AM on April 10, 2009


"Can we have a moratorium on posts that reference Twitter? The mad rush to bitch about Twitter in the comment threads is really getting irritating."

At this point I'm just flagging all the comments that are solely twitter-bitches as "noise" and moving on. Won't you join me?

I would post a rebuttal but I'm doing like 15 hours a week now just snarking back at the dumb-ass shit people say about L.A. In both cases, what bothers me is that it has so little to do with people actually feeling strongly on the subject- it's just seeing a popular target and piling on, with the safety of the crowd at your back.
posted by drjimmy11 at 11:11 AM on April 10, 2009 [3 favorites]


Well, if you can do it better then more power to you. But complaining about someone else's success won't get anyone very far.

Anyone could write code that does what twitter does. And in fact, based on how often the site would go down at first, most people could probably do it better. But the main reason twitter was able to take off was the fact that they could make deals with phone companies in order to send and receive text messages cheaply. Which just goes to the fact that 'the internet' is actually becoming more and more closed off as companies try to own and control it, especially as more mobile devices go online.

Unlike normal PCs, cellphones are usually locked down, so you can only use the services that cellphone providers allow. Twitter is something that linked into that world, as well as the 'regular' internet, and that's why it was able to become so popular so quickly.

So the 140 character limit that makes it so popular (since people don't feel like they have to spend a lot of time comming up with something to fill out a whole blog post) was kind of an accident.

Beyond that, a lot of these start up successes are pretty much just random chance. why did twitter become popular and not "tumblr" another microblogging platform? It's largely arbitrary and attributing success with the innate genius of the creators is actually kind of pointless.
posted by delmoi at 11:12 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


You know who else hated Twitter?

Hitler. Hitler hated Twitter.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:17 AM on April 10, 2009 [2 favorites]


It's largely arbitrary and attributing success with the innate genius of the creators is actually kind of pointless.

Oh, man. Trust me, after seeing him give several terrible interviews I don't think that Stone has innate genius. I also don't think that Twitter is particularly well done, but I was simply admonishing anyone who would bemoan Twitter for getting their "product" into the mainstream.
posted by Burhanistan at 11:18 AM on April 10, 2009


Hitler hated Twitter.

Yes, but that was because of a mistranslation. Someone told him it was powered by Rubenstein on Rails.
posted by middleclasstool at 11:19 AM on April 10, 2009


Naturally, as a Twitter hater, to learn that many people's grudge with it is that the monstrosity doesn't work reliably enough is distressing.

But if there's an objective case to be made for Twitter, I'll shut up and listen. I'm honest enough to admit that creeping alter kocker*-ism makes me far from objective.

But you can't just dismiss such frank antipathy - especially when it appears with the regularity that other commenters have noted with annoyance - with "Get off my lawn, AMIRITE?". The broken-clock-being-right-twice-a-day principle means that even contrary old fogeys must be justified in their contrariness once in a while.

* If you're not familiar with the term, just picture Uncle Leo from Seinfeld.
posted by Joe Beese at 11:21 AM on April 10, 2009


I was simply admonishing anyone who would bemoan Twitter for getting their "product" into the mainstream.

You singled me out, and I was not doing that. I was whining about their unstable code, mostly. for full-on transparency, "starry-eyed geeks" was probably over the top, as I don't personally know anyone who is employed by/owns Twitter so I'll retract that epithet. What is their business model again, exactly, though? It feels pretty 1999 dot-commish to me.
posted by Devils Rancher at 11:23 AM on April 10, 2009


All I know os I regularly get coupons for free pizza from Punch Pizza as a result of following them on Twitter, and that ALONE justifies Twitter's existence.

I'll get off your lawn. Me and this delicious pizza have a date somewhere else anyway.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:24 AM on April 10, 2009


Also, any discussion of the value of something on the Web based on lack of a business model hasn't really been paying attention to the Web, where things work by accident, make money sometimes without anyone knowing how, don't make money when they are supposed to, and generally eats up and spits out business models as though they were skittles.

The complaint that the site is badly coded? Hell yes. I don't think they were expecting to catch on, and their rickety little system doesn't scale to the 15 million people who started using it last month. Doesn't make Twitter not valuable, though. Jeeps regularly broke down, and we wouldn't have won WWII without them.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:28 AM on April 10, 2009


Yes. I spit out skittles. I always think they're M&Ms, and then am shocked and disgusted when I taste Skittle.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:28 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Hitler hated Twitter.

You know, if I were a programmer and didn't have any moral and ethical qualms about it, I'd develop a service called Twitler so that the white power/neo-nazi folks could easily keep up on the hate-filled banalities of each others' lives.
posted by mudpuppie at 11:30 AM on April 10, 2009 [3 favorites]


I see many people complaining about the Twitter haters, but only one so far has mentioned anything it's good for (news). It reminds me of the phony anti-gay crap in that commercial that was posted here yesterday, where they never quite articulate what it is they're all excited about. In this case, the commercial would be, "Twitter is so great and cool and wonderful because . . . " cut to next person "And it's really great too, for example . . . " cut to next person "It's totally awsome!"

So if someone that likes/loves Twitter could take some time way from their Twitting or Tweeting or whatever and actually explain what the big deal is, you'd be doing us all a favor.
posted by Outlawyr at 11:34 AM on April 10, 2009


Oh, and if any of you folks who like ice cream would mind explaining what the fuck is so wonderful about that, I'd appreciate hearing that as well, because I will reflexively despise anything that hasn't had its good qualities carefully enumerated for me.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:36 AM on April 10, 2009


Ice cream has sugar, which tastes good. Next.
posted by Outlawyr at 11:38 AM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Twitter has Steve Buscemi, which tastes good.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:39 AM on April 10, 2009


I'm eagerly awaiting the Twitter-centric episode of "21st Century Teens!" where everyone gets a twitter account and messages get crisscrossed and the parent's don't understand and comical misunderstandings ensue!

Of course, I probably won't be able to watch it. Our Masters don't like us thinking about life before The Glorious Zygorbian Expansion too much.
posted by The Whelk at 11:39 AM on April 10, 2009


Ice cream has sugar, which tastes good.

Unless it's less than 140 calories, and then it tastes like shit.
posted by Combustible Edison Lighthouse at 11:41 AM on April 10, 2009


I haven't tasted Steve yet, but I'm willing to give him a try.
posted by Outlawyr at 11:41 AM on April 10, 2009


Interesting links, humor, commentary, etc... What you get out of Twitter is a function of who you follow.
posted by brundlefly at 11:42 AM on April 10, 2009


Will you guys be quiet? My Tamagotchi is about to receive its 39 lashes, and I'm trying to concentrate.
posted by FelliniBlank at 11:42 AM on April 10, 2009


(not a fan of ice cream or sugar, personally)
posted by brundlefly at 11:42 AM on April 10, 2009


brundlefly: "(not a fan of ice cream or sugar, personally)"

Anti-eponysterical
posted by Joe Beese at 11:44 AM on April 10, 2009


I don't like ice cream either, but at least I can articulate why other people like it.
posted by Outlawyr at 11:48 AM on April 10, 2009


You don't like ice cream? What are you, a martian?
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:48 AM on April 10, 2009


I prefer gelato. I do like mint chocolate chip, though.
posted by brundlefly at 11:50 AM on April 10, 2009


I guess I'm sort of a sorbet man, come to think of it.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:51 AM on April 10, 2009


Full disclosure: I like Twitter. I have a personal (locked) feed, a public one, and I run the feed for my organization. I'm not quite a "power user", but close.

So a few weeks ago I was at a Social Media Club event here in Chicago. (Go ahead, poke fun...) And after the panel presentation during the Q&A, an audience member stood up and complained about how we were all taking social media too seriously.

Think about this for a moment. The guy came to a Social Media Club event to complain that we were taking social media too seriously. It reminded me of every thread on Metafilter that references Twitter and all the folks that take time out of their days to come into those threads to complain about Twitter. I guess I just don't get it.

Back to the subject of the post - my boss (not the most tech-savvy in the world) told me about this. She's going to be in NY for Easter and was looking up the Trinity church for their service times and found out about it. I think it could have been interesting, but it looks like they are using GroupTweet, which is a third-party service via the Twitter API that allows multiple people to post to the one feed. I don't think it's working that way.
posted by misskaz at 11:52 AM on April 10, 2009


Aren't we all, in our own way, sorbet men, AZ?
posted by The Whelk at 11:52 AM on April 10, 2009


"You don't like ice cream? What are you, a martian?"

Vegan actually, which is close to the same thing.

So I added Steve and get this:

Steve_Buscemi#followfriday @lizardclit @cumwaffles @shaqeepoo @ranovermyboss @wizardtriathalon @vegancannibal @scrotumwallet @holybiblehustler @dog_shoes

Does this mean something?
posted by Outlawyr at 11:59 AM on April 10, 2009


I don't think it's working that way.

This looks right.
posted by trueluk at 12:03 PM on April 10, 2009


fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many twitters
posted by pyramid termite at 12:04 PM on April 10, 2009


Does this mean something?

Every Friday, some people list Twitter accounts that they recommend people follow. Those are all usernames.
posted by brundlefly at 12:04 PM on April 10, 2009


Outlawyr: I hate FollowFriday. I have no idea where it came from - on Fridays, people list the Twitter-ers that they are following and recommend. So that list with the @ signs is the list of people that Steve_Buscemi is recommending others follow.

The #followfriday is tagging it as a FollowFriday post.
posted by misskaz at 12:04 PM on April 10, 2009


Amazing that this has digressed into TwitterHate and not LOLXIANS.
posted by desjardins at 12:05 PM on April 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


misskaz, I too find it annoying.
posted by brundlefly at 12:07 PM on April 10, 2009


Hey, my twits are back! Tw00t! funny that they'd fix this right as I was whining about it here.
posted by Devils Rancher at 12:08 PM on April 10, 2009


Hitler hated Twitter.

Now say that three times fast.
posted by the other side at 12:09 PM on April 10, 2009


Well, I can't really so no to scrotumwallet now can I.

So, should I stop saying "at" in my brain when I see @ on Twitter? Because "at gmail" or "at aol.com" makes sense, but "at scrotumwallet" just doesn't.
posted by Outlawyr at 12:11 PM on April 10, 2009


so no = say no
posted by Outlawyr at 12:13 PM on April 10, 2009


Amazing that this has digressed into TwitterHate and not LOLXIANS.

Quick, someone mention Scientology.
posted by middleclasstool at 12:39 PM on April 10, 2009


From the Trinity Church website: "What Would Jesus Tweet?"

I wonder. What would he Twitter?
posted by ericb at 12:45 PM on April 10, 2009


@jesus: I'm tweeting for Peeps® this Easter Sunday®
posted by ericb at 12:47 PM on April 10, 2009


middleclasstool: "Quick, someone mention Scientology."

I know a Scientologist who offended her veteriarian by breastfeeding in the office while waiting to pick up her cat after declawing. And she's Israeli.
posted by Joe Beese at 12:47 PM on April 10, 2009


*I wonder. What would He tweet?*

That's right -- tweet is the verb.
posted by ericb at 12:49 PM on April 10, 2009


I posted this because I thought it would be interesting to see how a play could be put on via Twitter. I'm not a Bible basher, nor some Twitter evangelist, and I thought it would be interesting to see how it worked out. What tipped me into posting was that it was only on for three hours - so relatively timely and people could see it live if they wanted.

But glad to see people hate Twiter!
posted by djgh at 1:10 PM on April 10, 2009


Tweet is the verb but the bird is the word.
posted by breath at 1:25 PM on April 10, 2009


LOLXTWIANS, then?

I mean, I understand. Those of us who get something out of Twitter have Twitter as a platform for complaining about Twitter, rather than needing to change the subject in every thread that mentions it. I would put that in the column of ways it's useful.
posted by notquitemaryann at 1:27 PM on April 10, 2009 [2 favorites]


ok can i talk about the passion play?

Great. Gets out of the third person narrator of the bible and gets into everyone's POV, and the twitter using public will fill in details of personhood from their friends' twitter-presences. Excellent, relevant evangelism. Me likey.
posted by By The Grace of God at 2:39 PM on April 10, 2009


Twits.
posted by kid ichorous at 3:50 PM on April 10, 2009


Just in time for Easter Vigil. A four hour service summarized in four minutes!
posted by ckjy at 4:18 PM on April 10, 2009


Beyond that, a lot of these start up successes are pretty much just random chance. why did twitter become popular and not "tumblr" another microblogging platform? It's largely arbitrary and attributing success with the innate genius of the creators is actually kind of pointless.
posted by delmoi


Well, that's a pretty terrible comparison. Regardless of what label they're under, twitter and tumblr are completely different, with different strengths and purpose. There's plenty of twitter users that also keep a tumblr (and tumblr seems to be doing fine).

A realistic comparison would be between twitter and jaiku, with one answer being that once twitter gained the larger number of users that ball was hard to stop.
posted by justgary at 5:36 PM on April 10, 2009


For those keeping track, the Twitter lovers have identified the following reasons that Twitter is so great:
1) You can get news on it
2) You can complain about Twitter on it
3) Steve Buscemi
4) It's so terrifically wonderfully awesome!
posted by Outlawyr at 3:58 AM on April 11, 2009


the passion of benny hill (have been looking for an excuse to post this for a while)
posted by askmehow at 9:33 AM on April 11, 2009


Outlawyr, I'll repeat my earlier response to you:

Interesting links, humor, commentary, etc... What you get out of Twitter is a function of who you follow.
posted by brundlefly at 10:01 AM on April 11, 2009


Uh, in other words, it's like MetaFilter. I use it to find neat stuff, and because it's fun. If you're looking for a quantifiable use -- like "it'll get you laid" or "it toasts perfect toast" or something -- then you're right. It's completely worthless.
posted by brundlefly at 10:07 AM on April 11, 2009


Uh, in other words, it's like MetaFilter.

Another similarity. Twitter goes down more often than a hooker at a Promise Keepers convention, yeah. Even the most rabid fanboys acknowledge this.

So did MetaFilter, not that long ago, if you'll recall. Some of you hating on Twitter stuck around here through that trouble, even rushed to defend mathowie and MeFi against one user who rudely but accurately criticized the technical foundations of this place and the horrific downtime problems in MeTa. Hell, Monkeyfilter started a whole recurring thread just to keep score on MeFi downtime -- it became sort of a running gag. But you stuck around, because you realized there was more to this place than bad code and unstable servers.

Is it really all that difficult to apply the same logic to other places and tastes, even places you don't see the value of?
posted by middleclasstool at 7:26 PM on April 11, 2009


I signed up for twitter the other week. I tried it out. "Tweeted" a bit.

I then went back to playing Dwarf Fortress and haven't looked back.
posted by sonic meat machine at 10:50 PM on April 11, 2009


Twitter goes down more often than a hooker at a Promise Keepers convention, yeah. Even the most rabid fanboys acknowledge this.

That's because it's a multi-national service built on the beautiful ramshackle of Ruby on Rails. As such, it's like that couch in Return to Oz which somehow manages flight and compels you to shout: go, flying couch! Go!
posted by kid ichorous at 5:03 AM on April 12, 2009


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