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Doctor Who Alignment Chart (single image link)
posted by Artw (76 comments total) 38 users marked this as a favorite

 
(Though if you ask me if you're writing it right he should always lean Chaotic Good)
posted by Artw at 11:05 AM on March 11, 2010 [3 favorites]


Best of the Web?
posted by rocketpup at 11:08 AM on March 11, 2010


I think you've just shown me something I never knew I wanted.
posted by greenland at 11:09 AM on March 11, 2010 [7 favorites]


I'd generally say Chaotic Neutral would be the way I'd like to see Doctor Who- a strong alignment implies interference.
posted by malusmoriendumest at 11:09 AM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


(There was supposed to be a tooltip on the above text, saying "Yes, indeed" but MeFi eated it.
posted by rocketpup at 11:09 AM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


Why do I love this so much?
posted by mygothlaundry at 11:11 AM on March 11, 2010


I can't wait until I can put my character alignment on the census.
posted by The Whelk at 11:11 AM on March 11, 2010 [6 favorites]


Not at all related: Doctor Mew
posted by permafrost at 11:11 AM on March 11, 2010 [9 favorites]


I actually LOL'd.

Though I am concerned that the Doctors I prefer are along the evil side.
posted by _paegan_ at 11:12 AM on March 11, 2010




TRUE NEUTRAL

Charlie Watts was a Time Lord?
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:12 AM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


I love this meme.

Team Fortress 2


Smash Brothers

posted by Dr-Baa at 11:12 AM on March 11, 2010


The little 10 year old inside of me is angry about any Doctors being in the "evil" row. Well, maybe except for the 6th.
posted by charred husk at 11:12 AM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


(Though if you ask me if you're writing it right he should always lean Chaotic Good)

I'd tend to agree, but have a hard time complaining about most of the positioning except for Colin Baker and Tennant, but that's just because it's hard to shoehorn "evil" into any Doctor except arguably McCoy.
posted by Shepherd at 11:13 AM on March 11, 2010


This would be more interesting if there was an explanation of which person is in which picture. I fully intend to see more of this series soon, but the only one I recognize is "Chaotic Good" (Tom Baker I am guessing).
posted by crapmatic at 11:13 AM on March 11, 2010


More.
posted by starman at 11:14 AM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


They're stretching it on the evil side... couldn't they just have added some Daleks, Cybermen and the Master?
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 11:14 AM on March 11, 2010


Had I ever been pressed to answer (under oath, to get a job, you know, whatever), I would have guessed that I could be identified as Chaotic Neutral.

Glad to see I'm in good company.
posted by quin at 11:15 AM on March 11, 2010


Doctor Mew

I'm on drugs right? What's why I'm seeing this, right?

Also this. The quotes give me a warm Civ 4 feeling.
posted by The Whelk at 11:16 AM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


Love it...
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 11:18 AM on March 11, 2010


They're stretching it on the evil side...

Colin Baker's clothes qualify on their own.
posted by Artw at 11:18 AM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


Also: as I think of it, I have to add "Chaotic Neutral" to my list of business cards. That'll be fun for work functions.
posted by quin at 11:21 AM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


All that to take a swipe at David Tennant, eh? Colin Baker was totally the chaotic evil doctor. Tennant is Chaotic Misunderstood or maybe Chaotic Awful Death Episode.
posted by shmegegge at 11:25 AM on March 11, 2010 [4 favorites]


Chaotic Good
Chaotic Netural
Chaotic Evil
etc.
posted by blue_beetle at 11:26 AM on March 11, 2010


I had no idea what this was about until I found this link-
Character Alignment
posted by bhnyc at 11:26 AM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


Chaotic Very Long Regeneration For No Good Reason.
posted by shmegegge at 11:26 AM on March 11, 2010 [3 favorites]


Chaotic Episodes.
posted by Artw at 11:27 AM on March 11, 2010


What is this that's going on here?
posted by Plutor at 11:28 AM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


Not only is this awesome, but you posted it just as I'm on the way to play some D&D.

Apparrantly I have a bad memory: When did Tenant's doctor drown children and put people into an eternal prison (although I recall that he wanted to do this to the Master after destroying the paradox engine)?
posted by metaBugs at 11:28 AM on March 11, 2010


I had no idea what this was about until I found this link- Character Alignment

Heh. Some things are just so deeply wired into nerdery that you kind of forget that people are not born with innate knowledge of them.
posted by Artw at 11:29 AM on March 11, 2010 [11 favorites]


metaBugs - end of the Human Nature 2 parter.
posted by Artw at 11:30 AM on March 11, 2010


what
posted by fixedgear at 11:30 AM on March 11, 2010


Where's the Eighth Doctor?
posted by Effigy2000 at 11:33 AM on March 11, 2010


All that to take a swipe at David Tennant, eh? Colin Baker was totally the chaotic evil doctor. Tennant is Chaotic Misunderstood or maybe Chaotic Awful Death Episode.

I'll give you the latter, dunno about the former. The dude DOES have several genocides under his belt/burns at the center of time/looks good in suits/etc.
posted by greenland at 11:35 AM on March 11, 2010


I'm glad to see in this thread one my newest rules for life: If something exists, but you're not quite sure when it means, but you feel like it's something you really should know what it means, you can probably find your answer on tvtropes.org.

If I hadn't pretty much banned myself from Gallifrey Base and most all other online forms of fandom, I'd love to throw this graphic up in a thread and see what sort of havoc/shit stirring it would cause.

But when it comes to stuff like that, I've always been so Chaotic Neutral they had to exile me to an alternate universe with the Tylers to prevent further (justified) genocides.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 11:37 AM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


He's very sorry for the genocides!
posted by Artw at 11:40 AM on March 11, 2010 [7 favorites]


Given all his do-gooder roles (Campion, Davies, etc) I suspect Peter Davidson fights crime as a matter of habit now.

And after he returns the purse to its rightful owner, he smiles shyly at a camera that isn't there.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 11:45 AM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


That or he sticks his hand up a cows bum.
posted by Artw at 11:46 AM on March 11, 2010 [3 favorites]


Yay!
posted by These Premises Are Alarmed at 11:47 AM on March 11, 2010


Well, he had to get the purse back somehow.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 11:47 AM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


Apparrantly I have a bad memory: When did Tenant's doctor drown children and put people into an eternal prison (although I recall that he wanted to do this to the Master after destroying the paradox engine)?

In "The Runaway Bride", he drops the entirety of the Thames River on a bunch of spider-monster children that were gestating in the Earth's core. While his companion and the monster's mom were screaming at him to stop. That was the end of that particular race!

At the end of "The Family of Blood" he metes out the following eternal imprisonments to said family:

- Father: Wrapped in chains forged from a compressed dwarf star
- Mother: Thrown from the TARDIS into the event horizon of a black hole, never to move
- Daughter: Trapped in a mirror (caveat: ALL mirrors)
- Son: Frozen in time and left as a scarecrow in a British field
- Me: Exposed as a huge dorkus. Just now.
posted by greenland at 11:56 AM on March 11, 2010 [24 favorites]


Of couse you know who's really evil*...


don't ya?

...

...

JNT! (OK, it's RTD really)


*following joke for hardcore Who nerds only... all else move along, nothing to see...
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 12:03 PM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


Dude... on that particular backstage spectrum it's Michael Grade is REALLY the most evil.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 12:07 PM on March 11, 2010


FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Sorry, wrong sub-reddit.
posted by GuyZero at 12:08 PM on March 11, 2010


Had I ever been pressed to answer (under oath, to get a job, you know, whatever), I would have guessed that I could be identified as Chaotic Neutral.

If you were Chaotic Neutral and pressed to answer under oath for a job, you'd probably want to answer Neutral Good. Unless it was a government job, then you could say Lawful Neutral. You know, whatever gets you the best pay grade, really.

does not apply inside a Zone of Truth
posted by FatherDagon at 12:14 PM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


Chaotic very long regeneration for no good reason

Sorry, no, this was in fact Chaotic very long regeneration so dormant gorilla can bawl like a little girl.
posted by Dormant Gorilla at 12:22 PM on March 11, 2010 [2 favorites]


Hey! Since we're all here, check out this just-published Telly article about the filming of Season 5, replete with mild spoilers (but no surprises).
posted by bicyclefish at 12:24 PM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


The only three doctors I know well enough as a casual fan are the three chaotic ones... I guess that tells you something about which are most successful.
posted by inthe80s at 12:26 PM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


At least the Lebowski one makes sense. This seems really random.
posted by rottytooth at 12:27 PM on March 11, 2010


Hey! Since we're all here, check out this just-published Telly article about the filming of Season 5,

Oh man, we're all still getting over David Tennant, please don't bring the Frankenstein-face-on-Brandon-Flowers-body into this just yet.
posted by Greg Nog at 12:37 PM on March 11, 2010


Revenge of the giant face!
posted by Artw at 12:38 PM on March 11, 2010


I really hope that his tenure ends with like him getting into some vat of growth serum and going back in time and somehow becoming The Face of Bo!
posted by Greg Nog at 12:40 PM on March 11, 2010


Well, not to be nerdy, but...
posted by Artw at 12:55 PM on March 11, 2010


I love this meme.

I think the Batman one was the original—it's been around at least two years. (Not a criticism of the Doctor Who chart or this post, just offering information.)
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 1:00 PM on March 11, 2010


Frankenstein-face-on-Brandon-Flowers-body

I think Matt Smith looks more like a deflated Noel Fielding
posted by permafrost at 1:09 PM on March 11, 2010


Just a big yes to this post and all the linky comments.
posted by immlass at 1:12 PM on March 11, 2010


10 totally burned up a star for a long-distance message to his clingy, needy girlfriend, only to conveniently duck out before having to say "I love you."

He also DTMFA by giving her a clone of himself.

Chaotic evil, yes, but I like his style.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 1:32 PM on March 11, 2010 [7 favorites]


crapmatic: “This would be more interesting if there was an explanation of which person is in which picture. I fully intend to see more of this series soon, but the only one I recognize is "Chaotic Good" (Tom Baker I am guessing).”

okay

#5 Peter Davison....|..#2 Patrick Troughton..|...............#4 Tom Baker
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
#3 Jon Pertwee......|...#1 William Hartnell..|...#9 Christopher Eccleston
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
#7 Sylvester McCoy..|.....#6 Colin Baker.....|..........#10 David Tennant


there you are. (And if you intend to see more, you should check out #1 and #7 especially. #2 is pretty forgettable, if you ask me, and probably even worse than #6, if you can imagine that.)
posted by koeselitz at 1:46 PM on March 11, 2010 [1 favorite]


I think Matt Smith looks like a less ginger version of this gent.
posted by palindromic at 1:51 PM on March 11, 2010


permafrost: "Frankenstein-face-on-Brandon-Flowers-body

I think Matt Smith looks more like a deflated Noel Fielding
"

Leave Noel Fielding alone! Don't you DARE!

You are dead to me.
posted by Splunge at 1:54 PM on March 11, 2010


I thought Matt #11 Smith looked like the son of Bill Nye the Science Guy (which is a smart look for a youthful Doctor) but looking at the recent clips and photos, it appeared they have given him Conan's Hair! (In a much less bright color; if it were red, NBC would probably sue).

Still, Original Doctor Troughton is so much more Neutral Evil than True Neutral, and Colin B.'s outfit was 100% Chaotic, but I can't get them to line up in a proper grid...
posted by oneswellfoop at 2:12 PM on March 11, 2010


You know I pretty much completely agree that Tennant's Doctor, while certainly up there with Tom Baker and Ecclestone in my all-time top three, is also deeply scary in a "Am I dreaming or did Obama really just extend the PATRIOT Act?"* kinda way.

And here is one of the greatest fanvids of all time** to explain exactly why. Mefites I give you:

Handlebars ***

* Sadly not dreaming.
** OF ALL TIME.
*** Note that this vid was made before The Waters of Mars, and arguably makes its point more succinctly.****
**** But it doesn't have Adelaide, who is awesome.
posted by rdc at 2:41 PM on March 11, 2010 [9 favorites]


Leave Noel Fielding alone! Don't you DARE!

Hey, I was dissing Smith there, not Fielding.
posted by permafrost at 3:55 PM on March 11, 2010


permafrost: "Leave Noel Fielding alone! Don't you DARE!

Hey, I was dissing Smith there, not Fielding.
"

Okay. You are no longer dead to me.

This time.
posted by Splunge at 4:07 PM on March 11, 2010


Should I be concerned that all my favorite Doctors are classed as evil?


(Yes, I love Colin Baker and no, I'm not ashamed to say it.)


((I hate Tom Baker, too.))
posted by elsietheeel at 4:38 PM on March 11, 2010


I also loved Colin Baker's portrayal, though he certainly was stuck with some horrid scriptwriting that extended into the beginning of Sylvester McCoy's run. Hell, anything involving Mel as a companion is something I automatically file under horrid, as I would file her TV role as being one of the worst companions ever. I have heard from others who know that Mel's character redeems herself somewhat in the books and audio programs; at the same time, the Eighth Doctor's depiction in these same media would put him somewhere between Neutral and Lawful Good.
posted by stannate at 5:09 PM on March 11, 2010


elsietheeel : I hate Tom Baker, too.

How can you not like Tom Baker? I mean, okay, I can sorta understand having a favorite other than #4, but outright hating him?

Do you hate Apple Pie, Santa, and crisp late-summer evenings too?
posted by pla at 5:25 PM on March 11, 2010 [4 favorites]


rdc, that was a great video. It had me at "me and my friends saw a platypus (shows picture of an ood.)"
posted by Solon and Thanks at 5:28 PM on March 11, 2010


pla: Yes. Also babies, chocolate chip ice cream, and baseball.
posted by elsietheeel at 7:06 PM on March 11, 2010


Greg Nog - don't read the rest of this post if you wish to remain unspoiled...

It was revealed in a pretty obvious manner (I can't remember which season or if it was a special) that the 'Face of Bo' is a character from the spinoff, Torchwood...

(great googley moogly!, there appears there's a US version of Torchwood being talked about... I wonder what they'll think the equivalent of Cardiff/Wales in the 'states is. Hoboken, NJ? Des Moines, IA?)
posted by porpoise at 7:49 PM on March 11, 2010


Indeed, Artw linked to that above. Hm. I do like that quite a bit.

Also, rdc, thanks for that video! Not only does it seem to make the Waters of Mars point more succinctly, but it actually made it feel like that character arc was something running throughout the show the whole time, rather than the feeling I got at the end of Waters of Mars, where I was like, "Huh; that kinda came out of nowhere."
posted by Greg Nog at 5:29 AM on March 12, 2010


I wonder what they'll think the equivalent of Cardiff/Wales in the 'states is. Hoboken, NJ? Des Moines, IA?)

Providence, RI! You could do all kinds of awesome Lovecraft-tinted stuff, play up the whole THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CITY OF GREAT WEIRDNESS schtick!
posted by Greg Nog at 5:31 AM on March 12, 2010


How can you not like Tom Baker?

The same way some annoying people claim to hate the Beatles.

Like, oh yeah, I hate oxygen, too!
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 5:35 AM on March 12, 2010 [2 favorites]


Well, I wouldn't say I hate The Beatles...
posted by elsietheeel at 4:37 PM on March 12, 2010


>#2 is pretty forgettable, if you ask me, and probably even worse than #6, if you can imagine that.

You bite your tongue! Mind Robbers is solid gold. War Games is ok too, if about 4-5 parts too long.
posted by davros42 at 6:56 PM on March 12, 2010


davros42: “You bite your tongue! Mind Robbers is solid gold. War Games is ok too, if about 4-5 parts too long.”

I've tried, believe me - although I've never tried Mind Robbers, so I'll attempt it this weekend in your honor. It's just so hard for me to watch those Troughton years without feeling like I'm watching cheesy 60s sci-fi, y'know? And so much of it is so... mindless.

Of course, I'm a guy who's still bitter that they fired William Hartnell, and it's been what - 45 years? Hartnell was one of the best Doctors there have ever been, supremely underrated, and awesomely scary at times. This chart actually nails him nicely - the moments when he's a villain occur very frequently, and it was often hard to tell whether he gave a shit if anybody else survived. The Edge Of Destruction might well be my favorite Who ever.
posted by koeselitz at 3:46 AM on March 13, 2010


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