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Finish with a flurry! (SLYT) Brad McWilliams went undefeated in over 700 street fights and shows you the secrets that will let you do the same.
posted by ignignokt (60 comments total) 5 users marked this as a favorite

 
Looks like a lot of French boxing to me.
posted by bwg at 7:10 AM on April 14, 2010


Is this the new Guy Maddin movie?
posted by jbickers at 7:16 AM on April 14, 2010 [2 favorites]


I can just imagine this getting made.
"dude, why do I have to be the one that gets beat up all the time?"
"because I came up with the idea!*"

*where here came up with the idea means stole it from Anchorman, action movies, and video games.
posted by The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew at 7:16 AM on April 14, 2010


No Flash at work, but I've gone undefeated in a number of street fights myself. I sincerely doubt any of his "secrets" can stand up to a well-timed LP->LK->MP->Shoryuken.
posted by griphus at 7:25 AM on April 14, 2010 [4 favorites]


Every part of that video was amazing.
posted by Bobicus at 7:31 AM on April 14, 2010


"Oh hi, I didn't see you there" is also a good move to use in a street fight.
posted by DU at 7:34 AM on April 14, 2010


Is he wearing scrubs?
posted by Burhanistan at 7:40 AM on April 14, 2010


Someone call Dana White and tell him we've solved that whole Anderson Silva thing.
posted by mph at 7:45 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


Maybe this guy should stop fighting streets and try his hand at real people, see how long he lasts.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 7:51 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


I hadn't realized until now, but that's pretty much exactly how I imagine Gareth from the UK Office fighting.
posted by Schismatic at 7:54 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


This was amusing, even if it was just one joke. Still, a cute take on the "Bullshido" tradition of Watch-Sensei-Pummel-His-Worshipful-and-Cooperative-Acolyte videos.
posted by darth_tedious at 7:57 AM on April 14, 2010


Am I the only one who read that as "Finish with a furry"? yes? Never mind then.
posted by ArgentCorvid at 8:04 AM on April 14, 2010


finally, we've met the man who could kill a chimp in a 1 on 1 fight.
posted by shmegegge at 8:08 AM on April 14, 2010


Still, a cute take on the "Bullshido" tradition of Watch-Sensei-Pummel-His-Worshipful-and-Cooperative-Acolyte videos.

My favorite version of this is the old Kiai master vs. young MMA fighter $5,000 challenge.

Give you 3 guesses as to which one of the two ends up picking up their teeth off the mat.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 8:08 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


>> old Kiai master vs. young MMA fighter $5,000 challenge

Yeah, that's a sad and funny clip.
posted by darth_tedious at 8:33 AM on April 14, 2010


>> old Kiai master vs. young MMA fighter $5,000 challenge

Yeah, that's a sad and funny clip.


Is there any epilogue to that one? Did all his students leave him in disgust and then find some authentic training methods?
posted by Burhanistan at 8:35 AM on April 14, 2010


I'm 2 for 3 in street fights. My secret: don't be as drunk as the other guy.
posted by total warfare frown at 8:41 AM on April 14, 2010


Am I the only one who read that as "Finish with a furry"?

Ha. No.

You see, it's like a race, a marathon or something. The guy next to you is a furry. You cross the finish line at the same time, then hug. It's like that.
posted by The Devil Tesla at 8:47 AM on April 14, 2010


Does anybody have any other links to videos of masters of various disciplines fighting each other? I've always wondered, for example, how an expert of aikido would fare against an expert of Brazilian capoeira.
posted by The Winsome Parker Lewis at 8:58 AM on April 14, 2010


Burhanistan -

Is there any epilogue to that one? Did all his students leave him in disgust and then find some authentic training methods?

That's a facinating question. How do people respond when strongly held belief comes face to face with external reality? You see a similar conflict when someone like Randi challenges believers in the paranormal. Most often perceived reality changes in the face of strong belief - the test wasn't fair, the aura was misaligned, whatever. Its easy to laugh when others fall into this trap; the real challenge is to be self-aware enough to see when you are doing it yourself.
posted by Fiery Jack at 9:00 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]




Does anybody have any other links to videos of masters of various disciplines fighting each other? I've always wondered, for example, how an expert of aikido would fare against an expert of Brazilian capoeira.

That's how MMA started. Turns out that knocking a guy down and pounding on his head is the best martial art.
posted by empath at 9:08 AM on April 14, 2010 [3 favorites]


I could only watch two and a half minutes of the video because my automatic joke meter shuts down youtube when a video falls below the minimum rate of one chortle per minute.
posted by digsrus at 9:17 AM on April 14, 2010


Does anybody have any other links to videos of masters of various disciplines fighting each other? I've always wondered, for example, how an expert of aikido would fare against an expert of Brazilian capoeira.

I'm pretty sure the earliest UFC fights were like that, except that much like empath said, the most effective technique was jump on the other guy, hold and punch (which is why Brazilian Ju-Jitsu won basically all the fights it was a part of).
posted by uri at 9:17 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


Give you 3 guesses as to which one of the two ends up picking up their teeth off the mat.

I think the MMA guy literally did knock one of the old fucker's teeth out - he gets up holding his mouth and the fight stops for like 30 seconds. That was by far my favorite part of the whole video. He takes the old guy down, then slaps him right in the goddamn mouth. It's just a visceral triumph of science over woo, reality over bullshit - all the made-up mystical crap in the world will not beat cracking a guy one in the mouth when he's down.
posted by DecemberBoy at 9:46 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


I was totally expecting, in the Brad McWilliams video, that after he showed us the "gun defense" and the "knife defense", he'd show us how to defend ourselves against fresh fruit, perhaps even with a 16 ton weight. Probably too obvious, though.
posted by DecemberBoy at 9:52 AM on April 14, 2010 [3 favorites]


Is there any epilogue to that one? Did all his students leave him in disgust and then find some authentic training methods?

The man in the video calls himself Yanagi Ryuken. His opponent was Iwakura Goh, a Jujitsuka/Karateka. You can see the fight from a better angle here. The old guy got a bunch of broken teeth and cuts on his face and lips for his trouble.

From what I've found the old guy claimed he lost because of heart trouble. The website still seems to be up. You'd probably have to be able to read Japanese to figure out what's happened since though. But I would doubt his students really cared. I've seen videos of similar stuff where a guy claimed that sometimes this stuff doesn't work, for example if someone is flexing their big toe, all the ki techniques against him became ineffective.

I guess when there is absolutely no logical explanation for what you do, then it doesn't matter if the reasons for it not working are equally nonsensical.
posted by splice at 9:55 AM on April 14, 2010 [2 favorites]


That was by far my favorite part of the whole video.

Yeah, do check out the other angle I posted. Better quality, you can see and hear the punches land, and you can even see some drops of blood on the floor... Visceral indeed.
posted by splice at 9:56 AM on April 14, 2010


I think I only just now learned that tkchrist is late of Metafilter.

Fuck!
posted by everichon at 9:59 AM on April 14, 2010


The Brazilian Jiu Jitsu stuff was brilliant as well (his innovative armbar defense, and the "real not staged BJJ dojo at the end). It'll have the side effect of trolling the hell out of the meatier-headed Tapout-consuming subset of MMA enthusiasts, as well, which has already happened after just 400 views (a guy challenges "Brad McWilliams" to a fight in the YT comments).
posted by DecemberBoy at 10:00 AM on April 14, 2010


I'm pretty sure the earliest UFC fights were like that, except that much like empath said, the most effective technique was jump on the other guy, hold and punch (which is why Brazilian Ju-Jitsu won basically all the fights it was a part of).

Well, yeah, but it's a little more elegant than just jumping on a guy and punching him. The term "MMA" has developed to mean not only the sport, but an actual martial arts discipline mixing grappling techniques from BJJ with striking techniques from karate, kung fu, etc. There are probably more martial arts dojos offering training in MMA than anything else now, because that's what everyone wants to do. Comparatively, hardly anyone goes and takes classes in the older single-focus martial arts like karate, tae kwon do, etc. anymore.

Another thing about those early UFCs - if you've only seen modern MMA, you'd probably think they're about the most boring thing on Earth. See, the whole thing was besides the inter-discipline matches, there were "no rules", including no time limits and no stand-ups by the referee, so you'd have 35 minute matches where either guy moved from a guard position maybe 3 or 4 times and spent the rest lying on their backs struggling.
posted by DecemberBoy at 10:11 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


Surely you've all seen this fight, yes?
posted by dancestoblue at 10:29 AM on April 14, 2010


I took Aikido classes a few years ago, just for six months or so. It was great for overall fitness, but it took ages to learn moves that really made some sense in real life. At some point our teacher, a burly fellow, lawyer, who also taught Judo and Jiu Jitsu, left under misterious circumstances. His best students took over classes, but I lost interest after a while and left.

I just googled the guy and found he was supposedly Dutch military intelligence who trained Surinam rebels in the Eighties. He also disappeared with their funds. He is accused of swindling old people out of their pensions, lying about being a lawyer and was last seen testifying in favor of Surinam leader Bouterse in the December murders.

On the one hand he could have been skilled in martial arts, seeing the life he lives probably gets a lot of people mad at him and wanting to punch him.
On the other hand, he is apparently such a fantastic liar he could've made up a whole new fwif kun do for all I know.
posted by charles kaapjes at 10:32 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


Surely you've all seen this fight, yes?

Yeah, in the movie.
posted by empath at 10:41 AM on April 14, 2010


Why is this video so stupid?
posted by msali at 10:45 AM on April 14, 2010




"You don't win fights by being a strong man or a clever boxer. You win fights by being more willing to permanently fuck up the other guy."

Michael "Desolation" Jones
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 11:12 AM on April 14, 2010


Nothing beats Bas Rutten.
posted by empath at 11:14 AM on April 14, 2010 [2 favorites]




I really don't understand what this has to do with Finland.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:48 AM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


I think I only just now learned that tkchrist is late of Metafilter.

Smedlyman is still around.

Why is this video so stupid?

It's a funny take on the ubiquitous martial arts demo that's all over YouTube. They often play some ridiculous music over clips of themselves demonstrating. They then slow down the video for the "intensity" in action and then will often speed up the video to make it look that much more intense. It's usually Wing Chun based hence the "flurry" technique.

"You don't win fights by being a strong man or a clever boxer. You win fights by being more willing to permanently fuck up the other guy."

That's a great comic and that's a great quote. If only people would realize it's not the martial art but the will and intent that mostly dictates the winner. But I don't think people will realize that if the "science based fighting" persists as some kind of valid idea.
posted by P.o.B. at 12:05 PM on April 14, 2010


Does anybody have any other links to videos of masters of various disciplines fighting each other?

The Spike TV channel has a show called Deadliest Warrior which is kind of like that. It's obviously kind of gimmicky and tries to dazzle with Science! but it does have lots of neat historical factoids and animal carcasses getting smashed up with exotic weapons.
posted by Burhanistan at 12:14 PM on April 14, 2010


I've seen videos of similar stuff where a guy claimed that sometimes this stuff doesn't work, for example if someone is flexing their big toe, all the ki techniques against him became ineffective.

...and that's somehow supposed to be evidence that it isn't bullshit? "My martial art is all-powerful and can defeat any opponent who dares to face me! as long as they don't flex a toe or do anything highly sophisticated like that

No thanks.
posted by Lexica at 12:37 PM on April 14, 2010


Nothing beats Bas Rutten.

Lord-a-mercy that's the greatest thing EVER. I actually may go beat someone's head against a table just so I can yell "BONG-DON'T-EVER-DO-DIS" while I'm doing it. I particularly like his "self defense technique" of breaking a seated man's leg for (hypothetically) saying something rude about his wife.
posted by DecemberBoy at 1:14 PM on April 14, 2010


I've thought for a long time now that the best send-up of all martial arts is My New Fighting Technique is Unstoppable. It's by the guy who did (does?) Get Your War On and it looks like he has about eight years worth of strips in there. Some of it's hilarious due to the closeness with the BS you hear in MA circles all the time.
posted by P.o.B. at 1:16 PM on April 14, 2010


It was kind of funny in some of the parts but it did not end in a flurry. Or a furry. Either would have done it for me.
posted by From Bklyn at 2:06 PM on April 14, 2010


Real Fight between Shaolin Monk and Tae Kwon Do

This video keeps getting pulled, but here it is for now. When the monk goes airborne on the attack he gives the other guy a little tap on then chin, just as a taunt, then deliberately pulls back on the next two kicks, each of which might have left the Tae Kwon Do fighter a changed man.
posted by StickyCarpet at 4:57 PM on April 14, 2010 [1 favorite]


empath: "Surely you've all seen this fight, yes?

Yeah, in the movie.
"

Um, now I feel lame, guess it was too good to be true -- thanx for the heads-up, empath...
posted by dancestoblue at 5:29 PM on April 14, 2010


Karate asshole stomping and possibly killing Kung Fu Jesus guy.

If you haven't seen this as yet, be aware that by the end you'll be thinking "Oh my fucking Christ what the fuck did they just film?"
posted by longbaugh at 7:53 PM on April 14, 2010


That's pretty messed up alright.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:25 PM on April 14, 2010


Holy fuck, do not watch longbaugh's link. Someone PLEASE delete that.
posted by empath at 9:22 PM on April 14, 2010


Holy fuck, do not watch longbaugh's link. Someone PLEASE delete that.

I'd agree that needs a STRONG warning. I viewed it on another site. The one value of the complete video is that there is a rather long verbal interaction at the beginning, between the mastermind and the victim, and the evil-minded person may have revealed some predictive turns of phrase, that could help recognize that kind of depravity.
posted by StickyCarpet at 11:04 PM on April 14, 2010


Holy fuck, do not watch longbaugh's link. Someone PLEASE delete that.

Oh, protect us all from nasty stuff.

It deserves a FPP all of itself. Bobby Joe Blythe should be in the jail.
posted by the cuban at 3:29 AM on April 15, 2010


I'm genuinely sorry if it offends you empath - I really didn't mean to offend. It's certainly worth a NSFW label at the least but whilst it is absolutely shocking and had the MA world baying for blood, it's not gained any traction so far as I can tell outside of a local news service. I'm rather surprised it hasn't been an FPP at any point over the last year and change since it appeared on Youtube.
posted by longbaugh at 5:06 AM on April 15, 2010


well in a lulzy thread, it was unexpected.

I did some more research. They didn't kill the guy, the police talked to him later and he declined to press charges.
posted by empath at 8:00 AM on April 15, 2010


I did some more research. They didn't kill the guy, the police talked to him later and he declined to press charges.

Would you mind posting that link? It sure looks and sounds like that last couple of cheap kicks to his head and neck crushed his trachea. The sound of his blood choked breathing is still a bit haunting.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:09 AM on April 15, 2010


I believe that is still disputed, I may be (and hope I am) wrong.

Apologies for dropping it in a "jokey" thread but I generally only get to browse MeFi from work so I can't view the initial video within the FPP. I'm sure the thread's tone is a light one but it was mostly a follow on the TKD vs Shaolin video - i.e. a real fight by "real" martial artists (the karateka in that link is abysmal and it's only when he switches to a default thug style that he beats down the technically superior kung-fu practitioner).

Sorry again if it was offensive.
posted by longbaugh at 8:26 AM on April 15, 2010


Comparatively, hardly anyone goes and takes classes in the older single-focus martial arts like karate, tae kwon do, etc. anymore..

Yeah, DecemberBoy, true dat. As long as you define hundreds of thousands of Americans, adult and children both, and even larger numbers in the native Asian countries of those arts (hundreds of millions?), as "hardly anyone", you're right.
posted by IAmBroom at 10:04 PM on April 16, 2010


Shit:
"Comparatively, hardly anyone goes and takes classes in the older single-focus martial arts like karate, tae kwon do, etc. anymore.."
...was a quote from DecemberBoy.
posted by IAmBroom at 10:06 PM on April 16, 2010


Let's take a collection to send that Shaolin Monk to take some classes with Bobby Joe Blythe.
posted by StickyCarpet at 10:43 PM on April 16, 2010


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