The foolish feminist: Be careful who you call a misogynist, you misandristBering is pretty much a clown. In addition to being, apparently, afraid of girl's cooties. He's also throwing out the whole "nu uh you are" defense to being called a misogynist by calling her a misandrist. Except there was absolutely nothing misandrist about what Nagoski wrote. complaining about one particular man does not make you a misandrist any more then me complaining about Ann Coulter makes a misogynist.
He was defending himself from a false accusation, that is worth anyone's time when they feel they have been wronged.I dunno, if you're going to try to defend yourself from a false accusation, it's probably a bad idea to do so in a way that makes you look like a huge douche.
He called out this for misandry, not what she said about him specifically.Hmm, well I don't really see that as an example of "misandry" because I actually have no idea what it's supposed to mean, as a man it doesn't really bother me.
"I LOVE the word mucus! Like a cross between music and kiss—and cervical mucus is my favorite of all the bodily fluids because it’s INTELLIGENT. It changes with fertility. Men don’t quite deserve the word mucus. Semen’s good enough for them."
he was talking about examining days old post sex decaying fluidsDecaying? Seriously? We're talking about taking fluids directly out of woman's vaginas. Do you really see that as an example of where things 'decay'? Do you also apply the same standards to people's mouths and think kissing is gross because of the 'decaying' food in their mouths? Do you refuse to touch other people's skin because of the microscopic insects crawling all over them? Jesus.
The flowback emerges 5-120 min after copulation as a relatively discrete event over a period of 1-2 min in the form of three to eight white globules.After which they presumably freeze the samples.
I doubt it. . When I hear the word porn, I think of something that is male yuckkiness and lines men's pockets with money... and semen.There was a lot more to it then that of course, but being disgusted by male bodies, etc was a very prominent part.
In that post I was specifically replying to post that simply mentioned vaginas and mentioning that we were talking about fluids as a separate issue. So, yeah.Eh, that's really an incorrect interpretation of what the poster was saying, when 6550 wrote "Women get shit about their vaginas being icky and gross from pretty early on." he or she was obviously including the fluid aspect (and probably menstruation, etc)
Sperm? Yes. Sperm has a limited shelf life once it's in a vagina. Whichever 10, 000,000, 000 or so don't reach the goal do, in fact, die in there. Not that it's all gross and nasty - it is a natural part of life and sex. But once it dies, it certainly doesn't stay frozen in its perfect sperm shape for all eternity. It "decays."Not if it's frozen or preserved, which I assume they would have done if they planned on doing genetic testing on it. And on top of that he described collecting the sperm as being the gross part, which happened between 5 and 120 minutes after sex. This wasn't collected days later, that's just something furiousxgeorge made up ex nihilo
Several studies have demonstrated that while many people are reluctant to call themselves feminists, they nevertheless agree with the feminist ideal of political, social and economic equality of the sexes. Seriously, what decent person, male or female, wouldn’t want to be a feminist by these basic standards? Unfortunately, the “F” word has become high-jacked by Nagoski and her sanctimonious ilk, and it’s become a term loaded with negative stereotypes of the kind exemplified by her sour and overly vigilant, accusatory, men-are-brutes outlook on life.And he goes on to site the results from a 2009 hidden bias study.
the menstrual product industry has employed a three-fold marketing strategy that remains remarkably unchanged almost 100 years later, though its methods may vary: medicalize menstruation as a problematic bodily function; emphasize the importance of hygiene (menstruation as "dirty"); and stress the potential for embarrassment ostensibly inherent in menstruation itself.The vagina is a dark, mysterious cave and what comes out of it is uncanny and frightening.
OK, delmoi, you are certainly correct that it could have been frozen. However, it didn't come out of either party (man or woman) frozen and in petri dishes. That's kind of a distraction from the argument at hand, and also a really odd thing to visualize (OOOOHHH i'm so COOOLLLLLD!) So let's agree that we're not talking about frozen sperm samples here. We are instead talking about Bering explicitly (or even implicitly for the love of God) saying that women are gross and so is their discharge.Right. Whether or not it's gross is gross on it's own is one thing but there's no reason to call it "days old" and "decaying" just to make it sound worse.
That would be wrong. It was referring to vagina in general which is what I said.You weren't the one making the reference, you were responding to someone who brought it up, and obviously "vagina in general" includes the fluids that come out of it, which is mostly what people mean when they say vaginas are gross.
No, this quote is what making shit up looks like. I didn't say it was collected days later, I said the scientists were examining it days later. They didn't personally put beakers up to the vagina of the women so why the fuck would they be disgusted by the process.What you said was that they were examining 'decaying, days old" samples, implying that they had just been sitting around for a while instead of preserved, trying to make it sound even grosser for no reason.
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Two wrongs, and all that... right?
posted by PostIronyIsNotaMyth at 8:56 PM on July 22, 2010