Ok. American Fundamentalists at work here.
September 13, 2001 3:25 PM   Subscribe

Ok. American Fundamentalists at work here. More muslim mosques, businesses, individuals attacked.
posted by adnanbwp (17 comments total)
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posted by adnanbwp at 3:34 PM on September 13, 2001

"I'm proud to be American and I hate Arabs and I always have," said 19-year-old Colin Zaremba

I keep thinking that I'm just not going to be surprised by how stupid some people are, and then I go and am surprised by it nonetheless.

Guess I'm just stupid that way.
posted by marknau at 3:44 PM on September 13, 2001

In San Antonio, police said the front door and front window of the Shiraz Persian restaurant was shattered by apparent gunfire.

"...and we hate your food, too!"

This is exhausting.
posted by JAcrimonaut at 3:48 PM on September 13, 2001

I know of someone who is Arabic and she is right now scared to come to the school that I go to because of what some people have said. I am so sad that there are so many people like that.
It is like we are back at the start of World War II and you know where that lead us.
posted by CollegeNelson at 3:51 PM on September 13, 2001

Enough with the GENERALIZATIONS!
I am a conservative Christian. What some people posting on this web site would call a "Right Wing Fundamentalist."
While this is not the forum for me share my particular religious beliefs, it enrages me that people of the Christian faith are being depicted as virtually being on the same moral level as the vermin that perpetrated these heinous acts. Listen folks, there is a lot of RAGE in this country right now. However, I haven't seen ANY news where a group of Christians have left a church and lynched an Arab American. The article is headed Ok. American Fundamentalists at work here. There is NO reference to Fundamentalists in the article.
Just like people of Islamic and Muslim religions are crying out that there faith condemns the terrible acts against the WTC, the Christian faith doesn't condone the perpetrators of these crimes, either. It is irresponsible and inaccurate to use such a misleading header.
However, I want the administrators of this web site to know how much I have enjoyed the intelligent level of the postings and the content. It is rare to find a forum where people can disagree with each other, yet keep the rhetoric intelligent, factual and not resort to name-calling.
posted by david1016 at 3:55 PM on September 13, 2001

Islamia school, a muslim girls school in London where one of my relatives goes, has been the subject of death threats and threatening phone calls - they've closed until monday to protect the children.. That sucks.. The headmaster is still trying to find information about relatives who were in the WTC as well - how must he feel at the moment??

Its not only in America that this irrational fear cropping up..
posted by Mossy at 3:56 PM on September 13, 2001


I apologize if the heading of my post has in any way hurt your feelings.

I had an interesting discussion with a "right wing fundamentalist" and we both agreed that in an ideal world, he and I would love to be called Fundamentalist because that would mean we atleast have thought about our fundamental believes and are willing to stand by them.

But we also believe that we are not the Fundamentalists. The Fundamentalists are ppl who shift from the true teachings and interpretitions of Islam and Christianity.

Once again, I am sorry for any ill feeling.

God Bless Us All.
posted by adnanbwp at 4:03 PM on September 13, 2001

Fundamentalist is no longer a term used to describe those who abide by the letter of their holy texts. It has now been incorporated into the language in the context of Islamic Fundamentalist terrorist.

It enrages me that people of the Muslim faith are invariably associated with these people. We have to fight a constant war of words to convince others that our religion isn't based on hate and killing evil capitalists - every time a misguided event such as this occurs and they cry the buzz words such as "jihad!!", the majority of muslims become the object of this hate. This sickens me.

I think the title could have been a bit better (an edit feature would have been wonderful in the last few days!!), but I don't think it actually mentioned Christians anywhere in the article either.. Those people aren't Christians..
posted by Mossy at 4:04 PM on September 13, 2001

oops, sorry abou the double post people - its unfortunate how phrases such as things can turn, isn't it? I would consider myself a fundamentalist in that I stick to my religion without frills, but alas..
posted by Mossy at 4:08 PM on September 13, 2001

Perhaps I was a little harsh with "irresponsible and inaccurate" comments.
Indeed, we do not live in a ideal world. In fact, C.S. Lewis, an apologist for the Christian faith, wrote in his book, Mere Christianity: "Enemy occupied territory—that is what this world is."
If the events of the last few days don't prove it, I don't know what does.
posted by david1016 at 4:25 PM on September 13, 2001

Mossy, ditto !!!
posted by adnanbwp at 4:25 PM on September 13, 2001

Guess I'm just stupid that way.

Marknau, I am surprised at you!
posted by rushmc at 5:11 PM on September 13, 2001

Shiraz Persian restaurant. Ugh. Persians aren't Arabs. So much ignorance.
posted by megnut at 5:37 PM on September 13, 2001

I'm from San Antonio and called my parents to ask about the restaurant since we live nearby. They said that the windows have already been repaired and it seems like the entire city has turned out to eat there tonight. A little comforting
posted by bogorman at 5:45 PM on September 13, 2001

Imagine if these events throw our country into an economic disaster...

And with oil prices high, the Middle East becomes the dominant force in the world.

Their leaders begin to do things we don't like, and we are powerless to stop them.

They install military bases on our land, ignore our human rights concerns, and generally are just annoying as they travel the world with their enormous wealth, blasting their strange popular culture all over the world and never considering the rest of the world to be nearly as important as them.

Under such a scenario, I think we all know that certain elements of our country, a very very small percentage, would likely turn to violence and terror. Christian Fundamentalists and White Supremacists would rise and recruit members in numbers that couldn't be anticipated just a few decades back...

What I'm saying is, every society has people who will turn to violence if pushed. We need to focus on individuals for our security actions, and the larger picture for our general foreign policy. Islamic Fundamentalism is only a few decades old...
posted by eric anders at 6:09 PM on September 13, 2001

lol, that has to be one of the best comments I've seen in the last few days.. the majority of people are sensible and have that tendency to think before smashing windows. However, it only takes a few idiots to instill fear like this.
posted by Mossy at 6:56 PM on September 13, 2001

I'm about to vomit. I was scanning the news channels just now, landed on Fox News, and I heard some preaching talking head say something along the lines of 'Muslims hate America because of our faith in Jesus Christ'. This is the kind of thing which gets pig blood thrown on mosques. I feel sick. I'm out of words.
posted by darukaru at 6:59 PM on September 13, 2001

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