Very interesting Israel related story
September 17, 2001 4:51 PM Subscribe
Very interesting Israel related story I do not have enough background knowledge to comment.
Helpful link, dude!
Try this next time: Here is some random sort-of-anti-Israel crap from 1996 I found on the web. I have no idea if it is true. Discuss.
posted by Mid at 5:01 PM on September 17, 2001
Try this next time: Here is some random sort-of-anti-Israel crap from 1996 I found on the web. I have no idea if it is true. Discuss.
posted by Mid at 5:01 PM on September 17, 2001
I am a bit surprised that look Wow they do this to us. Don't we have eschelon all over the place and isn't it said also to collect industrail info rather than just military info?
does any country feel secure in Trust rather than keeping an eye on friends and foes alike?
I am totally willing to believe the story but when the U.S. does exactly the same thing it is ok?
posted by Postroad at 5:01 PM on September 17, 2001
does any country feel secure in Trust rather than keeping an eye on friends and foes alike?
I am totally willing to believe the story but when the U.S. does exactly the same thing it is ok?
posted by Postroad at 5:01 PM on September 17, 2001
Hey Adnan Ali...that is a funny thing for you to say; "I do not have enough background knowledge to comment." For someone who doesn't have knowledge about a subject, you SURE post a lot of Anti-Israel propaganda. BTW, your post was from 1996. Also, it was a summary for a fee-based web-page, making it SPAM.
posted by Oxydude at 5:10 PM on September 17, 2001
posted by Oxydude at 5:10 PM on September 17, 2001
I do not believe in any kind of propoganda. I post what I see on the web while I research terrorism overall.
"you SURE post a lot of Anti-Israel propaganda".
This is a wrong statement. A review of my posts and comments will negate the statement in question.
Secondly, It is not spam because the link was promoting or advertising the fee-based web page.
I also provided a link to a free version of the same story.
I hope that satisfies your intrigue.
posted by adnanbwp at 5:30 PM on September 17, 2001
"you SURE post a lot of Anti-Israel propaganda".
This is a wrong statement. A review of my posts and comments will negate the statement in question.
Secondly, It is not spam because the link was promoting or advertising the fee-based web page.
I also provided a link to a free version of the same story.
I hope that satisfies your intrigue.
posted by adnanbwp at 5:30 PM on September 17, 2001
Hey Adnan Ali...
Methinks that calling adnanbwp by his full name, instead of his username, as is the custom, was an attempt to suggest he has an ulterior motive. Which is bullshit. I've read through adnanbwp's posts and I don't see anything far removed from the standard MeFi fare.
Can I assume from your profile, Oxydude, that nothing you say is worth standing by?
posted by jpoulos at 6:24 PM on September 17, 2001
Methinks that calling adnanbwp by his full name, instead of his username, as is the custom, was an attempt to suggest he has an ulterior motive. Which is bullshit. I've read through adnanbwp's posts and I don't see anything far removed from the standard MeFi fare.
Can I assume from your profile, Oxydude, that nothing you say is worth standing by?
posted by jpoulos at 6:24 PM on September 17, 2001
Well, thats not all....here are some more facts....how faithful our beloved Israelis are......Oxydude! sit tight!!!
"I've never seen a president --I don't care who he is-- stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what's going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don't have any idea what goes on." --Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (See Washington Report 12/1999, p.124 quoting from Andrew Hurley's book, "One Nation Under Israel")
"There is definitely an anti-Arab bias in America, and I regret it" --Peter Jennings cited in Alfred Lilienthal's 1982 Zionist Connections II, p.273, citing Edmund Ghareeb, The American Media and the Palestine Problem, Journal of Palestine Studies, Autumn 1975, Winter 1976.
"The Israeli Prime Minister has a lot more influence over the foreign policy of the United States in the Middle East than he has in his own country." -- Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his book They Dare to Speak Out, p. 92.
"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate ... somewhere around 80 percent of the senate of the United States is completely in support of Israel -- of anything Israel wants...." -- Chairman Senator Fullbright, 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".
"President Clinton behaves like an obedient child of Israel and does not know how to say `No.'" -- Nahum Barnea, Israeli writer (From Washington Report, July 1996, pg. 17)
"The Capitol Hill is an Israeli occupied territory". -- Patrick Buchanan (St. Louis Dispatch, 10/20/1990).
"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews. [Former Secretary of State George] Marshall and [former Defense Secretary James] Forrestral learned that" -- Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff..
Hold on guys there's more to come......
posted by Psychotrance at 8:40 PM on September 17, 2001
"I've never seen a president --I don't care who he is-- stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what's going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don't have any idea what goes on." --Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (See Washington Report 12/1999, p.124 quoting from Andrew Hurley's book, "One Nation Under Israel")
"There is definitely an anti-Arab bias in America, and I regret it" --Peter Jennings cited in Alfred Lilienthal's 1982 Zionist Connections II, p.273, citing Edmund Ghareeb, The American Media and the Palestine Problem, Journal of Palestine Studies, Autumn 1975, Winter 1976.
"The Israeli Prime Minister has a lot more influence over the foreign policy of the United States in the Middle East than he has in his own country." -- Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his book They Dare to Speak Out, p. 92.
"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate ... somewhere around 80 percent of the senate of the United States is completely in support of Israel -- of anything Israel wants...." -- Chairman Senator Fullbright, 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".
"President Clinton behaves like an obedient child of Israel and does not know how to say `No.'" -- Nahum Barnea, Israeli writer (From Washington Report, July 1996, pg. 17)
"The Capitol Hill is an Israeli occupied territory". -- Patrick Buchanan (St. Louis Dispatch, 10/20/1990).
"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews. [Former Secretary of State George] Marshall and [former Defense Secretary James] Forrestral learned that" -- Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff..
Hold on guys there's more to come......
posted by Psychotrance at 8:40 PM on September 17, 2001
Now we should only check on the guys you're quoting. Jennings has or had a Palestinian wife, Fullbright was a known antisemite, Buchanan is an ultra rightist flake, and I'd bet the others are similarly preoccupied with bigotry.
posted by semmi at 9:24 PM on September 17, 2001
posted by semmi at 9:24 PM on September 17, 2001
Jennings was the first TV person on 9/11 to appeal for tolerance for Muslim-Americans. While every one was pointing the blame finger, Jennings asked for proof and through investigation.
Victor Ostrovsky
Robert I. Friedman
posted by adnanbwp at 10:10 PM on September 17, 2001
Victor Ostrovsky
Robert I. Friedman
posted by adnanbwp at 10:10 PM on September 17, 2001
Well, thats not all....here are some more facts
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Wow. Our close relationship with US does not enjoy 100% American support! We're a free country that allows those people to express their opinions! Some people, even some that post to Metafilter, can't tell the difference between quotes from famous people and facts! It's all news to me.
BTW your most recent dated quote was from 1990, which makes even adnanbwp's original post look timely and relevant in comparison.
posted by boaz at 7:14 AM on September 18, 2001
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Wow. Our close relationship with US does not enjoy 100% American support! We're a free country that allows those people to express their opinions! Some people, even some that post to Metafilter, can't tell the difference between quotes from famous people and facts! It's all news to me.
BTW your most recent dated quote was from 1990, which makes even adnanbwp's original post look timely and relevant in comparison.
posted by boaz at 7:14 AM on September 18, 2001
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