Nirvana's Nevermind: 20 year later, covered by friends and fans
July 26, 2011 10:33 AM Subscribe
Nirvana's second studio album, Nevermind, turns 20 this September and Spin Magazine has put together a collection of covers. The covers span a lot of ground, from Meat Puppets (of who Nirvana were big fans) to Amanda Palmer, and newer acts including Jesica Lea Mayfield and Telekinesis, plus Charles Bradely & The Menahn Street Band, a surprise funk track by 62-year-old "soul shouter." Read more and download the album from Spin (link sent to an email address), or listen to them on YouTube.
Nevermind, previously:
* Nirvana Baby Has a Posse: Spencer Elden now works for Shepard Fairey (May 5, 2010)
* 17 Years Later Here We Are Entertain Us: memories from 17 years later (September 24, 2008)
Nevermind, previously:
* Nirvana Baby Has a Posse: Spencer Elden now works for Shepard Fairey (May 5, 2010)
* 17 Years Later Here We Are Entertain Us: memories from 17 years later (September 24, 2008)
butch vig, dave grohl, and krist novoselic all show up on the new foo fighters record, novoselic is only there for one track, but butch vig produced the whole thing - all analog until post mastering.
and here is an adorable picture of AFP recording the nirvana cover.
posted by nadawi at 10:40 AM on July 26, 2011
and here is an adorable picture of AFP recording the nirvana cover.
posted by nadawi at 10:40 AM on July 26, 2011
I know - watching the clip of Kurt and Krist chatting before playing Plateau with Meat Puppets took me back, but it didn't feel like 18 years ago.
posted by filthy light thief at 10:43 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by filthy light thief at 10:43 AM on July 26, 2011
Teenage angst has paid off well, now I'm bored and old. Now get off my lawn.
posted by entropicamericana at 10:44 AM on July 26, 2011 [7 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 10:44 AM on July 26, 2011 [7 favorites]
Who knew that what "Polly" needed all these years was a banjo? That's the only track I like so far.
posted by rusty at 10:45 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by rusty at 10:45 AM on July 26, 2011
I am so old. I am quite partial to the Meat Puppets version, it grows on a feller it does. It's also the only cover of this particular track I have heard that I like other than the Patty smith version which has been linked here before. Did I mention that I am old?
posted by Phlegmco(tm) at 10:53 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Phlegmco(tm) at 10:53 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
The first MP3 I ever downloaded was their cover of "Lake of Fire." It took over an hour to download (not counting downloading Winamp) and my 486/66 chugged and chugged and ...couldn't do it.
posted by griphus at 10:54 AM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
posted by griphus at 10:54 AM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
I feel so fucking old.
posted by mitzyjalapeno at 10:54 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by mitzyjalapeno at 10:54 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
hmm...
On the one hand, looking down the list and seeing Titus Andronicus doing Breed, me gets excited.
On the other hand, I've never heard of Jessica Lea Mayfield, but the fact she's doing my favorite track (Lounge Act) and her description of it, makes me nervous. Plus her picture looks like one of those South Park celebrity cut-outs but, I'll try to reserve judgement 'til I've listened.
posted by mannequito at 10:55 AM on July 26, 2011
On the one hand, looking down the list and seeing Titus Andronicus doing Breed, me gets excited.
On the other hand, I've never heard of Jessica Lea Mayfield, but the fact she's doing my favorite track (Lounge Act) and her description of it, makes me nervous. Plus her picture looks like one of those South Park celebrity cut-outs but, I'll try to reserve judgement 'til I've listened.
posted by mannequito at 10:55 AM on July 26, 2011
Wow, the YouTube commenters really hate the Midnight Juggernauts cover. Something tells me Nirvana would think differently.
posted by spiderskull at 10:56 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by spiderskull at 10:56 AM on July 26, 2011
I love Amanda Palmer's Polly.
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 10:57 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 10:57 AM on July 26, 2011
nadawi: "butch vig, dave grohl, and krist novoselic all show up on the new foo fighters record"
Dave Grohl better be there since he kind of is the reason Foo Fighters exists.
posted by theichibun at 10:57 AM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
Dave Grohl better be there since he kind of is the reason Foo Fighters exists.
posted by theichibun at 10:57 AM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
Although they're not on the compilation, I've heard two particularly good recordings of Lithium recently. One version is by Brad Mehldau and the other is by Bisquit.
posted by pjdoland at 11:00 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by pjdoland at 11:00 AM on July 26, 2011
Most amazing part? This album, as well as Blood Sugar Sex Magik by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest came out on the same day.
posted by eoden at 11:00 AM on July 26, 2011 [17 favorites]
posted by eoden at 11:00 AM on July 26, 2011 [17 favorites]
They peaked with Bleach. The first time I heard Smell Like Teen Spirit (on the radio!), I thought "that wasn't bad unless it was the new Nirvana in which case I may cry."
posted by Guy Innagorillasuit at 11:03 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Guy Innagorillasuit at 11:03 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I'm looking forward to someone's attempt to put together a Low End Theory cover album.
posted by filthy light thief at 11:03 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by filthy light thief at 11:03 AM on July 26, 2011
Just came in here to see all you people horrified about how old you are.
posted by vogon_poet at 11:04 AM on July 26, 2011 [14 favorites]
posted by vogon_poet at 11:04 AM on July 26, 2011 [14 favorites]
Most amazing part? This album, as well as Blood Sugar Sex Magik by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest came out on the same day.
And Check Your Head like two weeks later? Man that was a great summer.
Anyone see the Tribe Called Quest documentary yet?
posted by spicynuts at 11:05 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Still remember the first time I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit.
posted by resurrexit at 11:08 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by resurrexit at 11:08 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
eoden: "Most amazing part? This album, as well as Blood Sugar Sex Magik by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest came out on the same day."
Ha. In college I went to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They were awesome—almost as awesome as their two lesser-known opening acts (turned out to be Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins). I waited to long to go see Nirvana, though—huge regret.
posted by theredpen at 11:08 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Ha. In college I went to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They were awesome—almost as awesome as their two lesser-known opening acts (turned out to be Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins). I waited to long to go see Nirvana, though—huge regret.
posted by theredpen at 11:08 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
The first time I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit, I heard Kurt's voice and said something to the effect of "Is that Nirvana? They're the last band I expected to sell out and make overproduced pop songs." Alas.
This is the most hipster "i knew them before they were cool" statement I have ever actually seen in the real world. I thought they were just exaggerating.
posted by synthetik at 11:10 AM on July 26, 2011 [52 favorites]
This is the most hipster "i knew them before they were cool" statement I have ever actually seen in the real world. I thought they were just exaggerating.
posted by synthetik at 11:10 AM on July 26, 2011 [52 favorites]
I was so alternative that I didn't even like Nirvana. Take that hipsters of today!
posted by Keith Talent at 11:10 AM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
posted by Keith Talent at 11:10 AM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
Sound Opinions ran a podcast earlier this year on the music from 1991. I was in my late teens at the time and we had a sense that something special was going on. Like many other people I remember hearing (ie, getting blown away by) Smells like Teen Spirit for the first time. You don't forget something like that. I think part of what keeps me motivated to exploring new music is that I'll be able to get that moment back. I've come close, but never quite like that.
posted by quadog at 11:11 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by quadog at 11:11 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I know it's from Bleach, but this is my favorite Nirvana cover.
posted by humboldt32 at 11:13 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by humboldt32 at 11:13 AM on July 26, 2011
If Nirvana had peaked with Bleach, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
posted by ceiriog at 11:15 AM on July 26, 2011 [8 favorites]
posted by ceiriog at 11:15 AM on July 26, 2011 [8 favorites]
Total derail, but Pearl Jam has been together for 20 years this year as well. Not many american rock bands can say that.
Plus they released a trailer for the cameron crowe directed documentary today (its going to premiere on PBS)
and this trailer made me a very happy boy. can't wait.
posted by ShawnString at 11:16 AM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
Plus they released a trailer for the cameron crowe directed documentary today (its going to premiere on PBS)
and this trailer made me a very happy boy. can't wait.
posted by ShawnString at 11:16 AM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
I think you have a point, synthetik, but this is actually the most preeningly hip statement I've ever come across:
They peaked with Bleach. The first time I heard Smell Like Teen Spirit (on the radio!), I thought "that wasn't bad unless it was the new Nirvana in which case I may cry."
Though I have to say Guy Inagorillasuit could've gone a little further. Like so:
Nirvana? That Melvins cover band that made one good demo? Why are people still talking about them?
OR
Everything after the "Sliver" 7" was a sell-out.
I mean, c'mon, Guy, if you're gonna pose, fucking pose.
posted by gompa at 11:17 AM on July 26, 2011 [28 favorites]
They peaked with Bleach. The first time I heard Smell Like Teen Spirit (on the radio!), I thought "that wasn't bad unless it was the new Nirvana in which case I may cry."
Though I have to say Guy Inagorillasuit could've gone a little further. Like so:
Nirvana? That Melvins cover band that made one good demo? Why are people still talking about them?
OR
Everything after the "Sliver" 7" was a sell-out.
I mean, c'mon, Guy, if you're gonna pose, fucking pose.
posted by gompa at 11:17 AM on July 26, 2011 [28 favorites]
Were they good live? I regret not seeing them.
Nirvana at Maple Leaf Gardens on the In Utero tour in '93 was one of the best live shows I've ever seen, and easily the best in a venue that large. Cobain filled the room with his charisma all the way up to the rafters while evidently doing everything in his power not to project his presence at all. When they were on and Kurt wasn't too fucked up, they were a force of nature live.
Never mind the hipster backlash, kids, Nirvana was the real deal.
posted by gompa at 11:20 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Nirvana at Maple Leaf Gardens on the In Utero tour in '93 was one of the best live shows I've ever seen, and easily the best in a venue that large. Cobain filled the room with his charisma all the way up to the rafters while evidently doing everything in his power not to project his presence at all. When they were on and Kurt wasn't too fucked up, they were a force of nature live.
Never mind the hipster backlash, kids, Nirvana was the real deal.
posted by gompa at 11:20 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Just came in here to see all you people horrified about how old you are.
Don't worry, the same moment will come for you sooner than you think.
posted by blucevalo at 11:20 AM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
Don't worry, the same moment will come for you sooner than you think.
posted by blucevalo at 11:20 AM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
"Most amazing part? This album, as well as Blood Sugar Sex Magik by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest came out on the same day."
i was about to post this same thing.
Also, Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger was scheduled to come out that day but got delayed by a couple weeks. i was more excited for Soundgarden but I got Nevermind instead. I thought it was pretty good, but it was no Bleach.
I went to see Nirvana just before or just after Nevermind came out and couldn't find anyone to go with me. No one had heard of them.
Who cares, right?
posted by Liquidwolf at 11:20 AM on July 26, 2011
i was about to post this same thing.
Also, Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger was scheduled to come out that day but got delayed by a couple weeks. i was more excited for Soundgarden but I got Nevermind instead. I thought it was pretty good, but it was no Bleach.
I went to see Nirvana just before or just after Nevermind came out and couldn't find anyone to go with me. No one had heard of them.
Who cares, right?
posted by Liquidwolf at 11:20 AM on July 26, 2011
How is that a hipster thing to say? That's like saying you're so alternative that you don't even like Beyonce.
Beyonce today does not equal Nirvana in 1991.
posted by Liquidwolf at 11:21 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Beyonce today does not equal Nirvana in 1991.
posted by Liquidwolf at 11:21 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Actually, I liked (and like) Bleach much better also. If you discovered Nirvana with Smells Like Teen Spirit you may well feel differently, but I'm not sure why you'd disparage people who knew and loved the band before that. It doesn't mean anything except that we listened to different music.
posted by OmieWise at 11:22 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by OmieWise at 11:22 AM on July 26, 2011
I had heard (owned, played to death) Bleach and liked Nevermind even better when it was released.
I guess I suck at this game.
posted by eyeballkid at 11:25 AM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
I guess I suck at this game.
posted by eyeballkid at 11:25 AM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
Steady Diet of Nothing also came out that summer.
posted by OmieWise at 11:25 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by OmieWise at 11:25 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Nirvana? That Melvins cover band that made one good demo? Why are people still talking about them?
Actually, the Melvins had a great cover of 'Smells Like Teen Spirit', with Leif Garrett on vox. That album is solid gold... different collab for each track, including the guys from Tool, Brutal Truth, Mike Patton, JG Thirwell, Hank Williams III... so fine.
posted by FatherDagon at 11:25 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Actually, the Melvins had a great cover of 'Smells Like Teen Spirit', with Leif Garrett on vox. That album is solid gold... different collab for each track, including the guys from Tool, Brutal Truth, Mike Patton, JG Thirwell, Hank Williams III... so fine.
posted by FatherDagon at 11:25 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Strangely, this only made me feel old for a second. Now it makes me feel like I did back in the early 90s, which isn't such a bad thing. I had problems and successes then, and I have both now. I have music that excites me today, too. You kids can play on my lawn. But only for today, understand?
posted by GenjiandProust at 11:28 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by GenjiandProust at 11:28 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Finally got it to download and started listening. The Meat Puppets SLTS was delightfully rough and dirty, was suprisingly impressed by the bouncy, happy version of In Bloom, and am currently being annoyed by this boring dance version of Come As You Are!
Any chance we can just talk about the new cover versions instead of the same old nostalgic pissing contest that pops up in every Nirvana/Kurt thread? No? Alright then, carry on...
posted by mannequito at 11:28 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Any chance we can just talk about the new cover versions instead of the same old nostalgic pissing contest that pops up in every Nirvana/Kurt thread? No? Alright then, carry on...
posted by mannequito at 11:28 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I grew up listening to my dad's records - Beatles, Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel, Cat Stevens, The Band, etc. I loved them all, and still do, of course. But there came a time in middle school where it just wasn't cool to like them, and I found myself in the situation of NEEDING to like Nirvana just to be cool. So, I bought In Utero and Nevermind cassettes, popped them in the walkman, and listened to them both over and over and over again. I hated it at first. It was loud and metallic and ugly. There were no harmonies, no pretty fingerpicking. But I had to press on, I had to like them.
And, at some point, I started to like the music. I don't know how it happened or why, but something clicked. And that was one of the best moments of my youth. I thought, "shit, I'm a cool kid. I'm part of the counterculture. AND I EVEN LIKE IT."
I also did this with the Pixies.
posted by ORthey at 11:29 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
And, at some point, I started to like the music. I don't know how it happened or why, but something clicked. And that was one of the best moments of my youth. I thought, "shit, I'm a cool kid. I'm part of the counterculture. AND I EVEN LIKE IT."
I also did this with the Pixies.
posted by ORthey at 11:29 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I had heard (owned, played to death) Bleach and liked Nevermind even better when it was released.
I guess I suck at this game.
I don't know why people keep insisting this is a "game." Like whatever the fuck you want, and leave me alone if I like something else.
(I mean, the truth is Courtney Love was always my favorite Olympia band. That gives me no cred at all.)
posted by OmieWise at 11:29 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I guess I suck at this game.
I don't know why people keep insisting this is a "game." Like whatever the fuck you want, and leave me alone if I like something else.
(I mean, the truth is Courtney Love was always my favorite Olympia band. That gives me no cred at all.)
posted by OmieWise at 11:29 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Still remember the first time I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Me too. My first thought was, "They're playing this on the radio? " When the kind of music you've listened to for years suddenly gets non-college airplay, you wonder what it takes for that particular song to make it when so many other good bands apparently had no luck.
Then you get to be annoyed and old and cranky at all the people who have newly discovered the stuff you've been going to see in people's garages and shows that get shut down in the middle of the first band. And you get to be slightly miffed that the dumbshits who teased you in school for wearing thermals under your torn-up jeans have all run out to buy flannels and thermals for themselves. Then you remember that your parents told you this exact thing would happen and you would feel this way because it happens to every generation of people. You decide to get over it and be pleased that you have all sorts of great memories of bands playing in garages and shows getting shut down and everyone going to drink down by the river instead.
posted by oneirodynia at 11:29 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Me too. My first thought was, "They're playing this on the radio? " When the kind of music you've listened to for years suddenly gets non-college airplay, you wonder what it takes for that particular song to make it when so many other good bands apparently had no luck.
Then you get to be annoyed and old and cranky at all the people who have newly discovered the stuff you've been going to see in people's garages and shows that get shut down in the middle of the first band. And you get to be slightly miffed that the dumbshits who teased you in school for wearing thermals under your torn-up jeans have all run out to buy flannels and thermals for themselves. Then you remember that your parents told you this exact thing would happen and you would feel this way because it happens to every generation of people. You decide to get over it and be pleased that you have all sorts of great memories of bands playing in garages and shows getting shut down and everyone going to drink down by the river instead.
posted by oneirodynia at 11:29 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Beyonce today does not equal Nirvana in 1991.
Sorry not to be accurate enough for you in my analogy. What, today, is the most popular band or artist in the world with the most successful album in the world? Insert that name in my previous comment.
My point is the same whether its Beyonce or Black Eyed Peas or whatever. 1991-92 Nirvana was both hipster/underground/punk/indoe- credible AND the most popular band on the charts. It was an unusual situation. That's not the case with Beyonce who is popular on the charts but not remotely "cool" or underground.
posted by Liquidwolf at 11:32 AM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
Sorry not to be accurate enough for you in my analogy. What, today, is the most popular band or artist in the world with the most successful album in the world? Insert that name in my previous comment.
My point is the same whether its Beyonce or Black Eyed Peas or whatever. 1991-92 Nirvana was both hipster/underground/punk/indoe- credible AND the most popular band on the charts. It was an unusual situation. That's not the case with Beyonce who is popular on the charts but not remotely "cool" or underground.
posted by Liquidwolf at 11:32 AM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
I'm not sure why you'd disparage people who knew and loved the band before that. It doesn't mean anything except that we listened to different music.
Look, I own Bleach on vinyl. I've got European bootlegs containing outtakes from the Nevermind sessions and throwaways from the Bleach era. I own a Sub Pop "Loser" t-shirt. One of the first songs I ever learned to play on guitar was "About A Girl," and I think I once knew all the words to "Swap Meet" or at least believed I did.
I'm disparaging the notion that you could think Bleach was a fantastic record and Nevermind an abhorrent one for any reason other than the relatively popularity of the two. You could surely prefer the style or production values of one to the other, but adoring one and detesting the other? Come on.
I'm not much for Your Favourite Band Sucks slapfights, and I'm very much of the whatever-turns-yr-crank school when it comes to music fandom, but popping up in a Nevermind-turns-20 thread to claim you hated everything after Bleach is a pose. It should be called out as such. Take that hipster yawn elsewhere, it's making me tired.
posted by gompa at 11:34 AM on July 26, 2011 [39 favorites]
Look, I own Bleach on vinyl. I've got European bootlegs containing outtakes from the Nevermind sessions and throwaways from the Bleach era. I own a Sub Pop "Loser" t-shirt. One of the first songs I ever learned to play on guitar was "About A Girl," and I think I once knew all the words to "Swap Meet" or at least believed I did.
I'm disparaging the notion that you could think Bleach was a fantastic record and Nevermind an abhorrent one for any reason other than the relatively popularity of the two. You could surely prefer the style or production values of one to the other, but adoring one and detesting the other? Come on.
I'm not much for Your Favourite Band Sucks slapfights, and I'm very much of the whatever-turns-yr-crank school when it comes to music fandom, but popping up in a Nevermind-turns-20 thread to claim you hated everything after Bleach is a pose. It should be called out as such. Take that hipster yawn elsewhere, it's making me tired.
posted by gompa at 11:34 AM on July 26, 2011 [39 favorites]
If you discovered Nirvana with Smells Like Teen Spirit you may well feel differently, but I'm not sure why you'd disparage people who knew and loved the band before that.
From where I'm sitting, it looks like the people who knew and loved the band before that are the ones disparaging the fans of Nevermind, not the other way 'round.
Hell, I preferred Pearl Jam, but I at least acknowledge and respect that Nirvana was horkin' big and had fans, and so that's why I'm sniffing at this, all "well, it's okay, but it's no Ten, now, is it?"
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 11:39 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
From where I'm sitting, it looks like the people who knew and loved the band before that are the ones disparaging the fans of Nevermind, not the other way 'round.
Hell, I preferred Pearl Jam, but I at least acknowledge and respect that Nirvana was horkin' big and had fans, and so that's why I'm sniffing at this, all "well, it's okay, but it's no Ten, now, is it?"
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 11:39 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I don't know why people keep insisting this is a "game." Like whatever the fuck you want, and leave me alone if I like something else.
Don't recall saying anything about you. Defensive much?
Your turn.
posted by eyeballkid at 11:39 AM on July 26, 2011
Don't recall saying anything about you. Defensive much?
Your turn.
posted by eyeballkid at 11:39 AM on July 26, 2011
Wow, it's like a moshpit in here!
*commentsurfs away*
posted by mannequito at 11:42 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
*commentsurfs away*
posted by mannequito at 11:42 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
My band and I are so fucking underground, we hate all our music and that's why we never release it. Once all of us have heard it, it's overplayed.
posted by Dark Messiah at 11:45 AM on July 26, 2011 [16 favorites]
posted by Dark Messiah at 11:45 AM on July 26, 2011 [16 favorites]
Were they good live? I regret not seeing them.
Yeah. At the club level, at the arena level, they were amazing.
Just came in here to see all you people horrified about how old you are.
Old enough to have seen Nirvana in a club. I'm not sure I'd be willing to give that up in exchange for shaving a few years off my age.
posted by padraigin at 11:50 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Yeah. At the club level, at the arena level, they were amazing.
Just came in here to see all you people horrified about how old you are.
Old enough to have seen Nirvana in a club. I'm not sure I'd be willing to give that up in exchange for shaving a few years off my age.
posted by padraigin at 11:50 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
we hate all our music and that's why we never release it.
I liked you guys before you even considered not making music, now it's all just bandwagon music haters.
posted by drezdn at 11:50 AM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
I liked you guys before you even considered not making music, now it's all just bandwagon music haters.
posted by drezdn at 11:50 AM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
My relationship to Nirvana is weird. "Nevermind" came out when I was twelve, and while I was aware of it, I didn't have an opinion either way. In my twenties, playing in bands with Nirvana fans, I really started to like their stuff.
posted by drezdn at 11:52 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by drezdn at 11:52 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
SMTS was the first of their songs I'd heard (at age 8? 9?) and I loved it. Then, I loved Nevermind.
Then I heard Bleach and loved it too!
posted by utsutsu at 11:52 AM on July 26, 2011
Then I heard Bleach and loved it too!
posted by utsutsu at 11:52 AM on July 26, 2011
I'm looking forward to someone's attempt to put together a Low End Theory cover album.
August Mefi Music Challenge?
posted by drezdn at 11:53 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
August Mefi Music Challenge?
posted by drezdn at 11:53 AM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
I was going to join the pile-on on the "I prefer their earlier work" people but then suddenly I remembered every comment I've ever made on an REM thread.
posted by escabeche at 11:53 AM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by escabeche at 11:53 AM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
My band and I are so fucking underground, we hate all our music and that's why we never release it. Once all of us have heard it, it's overplayed.
Fenriz?
posted by ignignokt at 11:54 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Fenriz?
posted by ignignokt at 11:54 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Drezdn: My relationship to Nirvana is weird. "Nevermind" came out when I was twelve, and while I was aware of it, I didn't have an opinion either way. In my twenties, playing in bands with Nirvana fans, I really started to like their stuff.
Drezdn, I'm sorry as hell, but that kind of honest, non-emotionally charged statement is just not gonna fly in this thread.
posted by BigHeartedGuy at 11:54 AM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
Drezdn, I'm sorry as hell, but that kind of honest, non-emotionally charged statement is just not gonna fly in this thread.
posted by BigHeartedGuy at 11:54 AM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
Fenriz?
Nah, my tattoos were drawn by someone blessed with above-legally-blind eyesight, and tattoo needles as opposed to bic pens. ;)
the sad part is, Fenriz is a really good drummer when he cares to be.
posted by Dark Messiah at 12:01 PM on July 26, 2011
Nah, my tattoos were drawn by someone blessed with above-legally-blind eyesight, and tattoo needles as opposed to bic pens. ;)
the sad part is, Fenriz is a really good drummer when he cares to be.
posted by Dark Messiah at 12:01 PM on July 26, 2011
Charles Bradely & The Menahn Street Band win this little cover competition as far as I'm concerned. The only way to cover Nirvana is to take it and do something totally different. The Surfer Blood and Telekenisis covers sounded too much like the originals.
posted by dortmunder at 12:02 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by dortmunder at 12:02 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I think I just have a thing for liking songs from bands with awesome drummers before that drummer was in the band. Working Man with Rush and Swap Meet, Love Buzz, Negative Creep, and About a Girl here.
mannequito: "boring dance version of Come As You Are"
As someone who has been forced to like this type of music because of one of my bosses who isn't a big fan of Nirvana and hates Radiohead, it's both refreshing to hear someone with less of a singing voice than Kurt doing this and something I never want to hear again.
posted by theichibun at 12:03 PM on July 26, 2011
mannequito: "boring dance version of Come As You Are"
As someone who has been forced to like this type of music because of one of my bosses who isn't a big fan of Nirvana and hates Radiohead, it's both refreshing to hear someone with less of a singing voice than Kurt doing this and something I never want to hear again.
posted by theichibun at 12:03 PM on July 26, 2011
No one posted Miley's version of Smells Like Teen Spirit yet???
posted by ejoey at 12:03 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by ejoey at 12:03 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I was the videographer for the EMA recording of "Endless Nameless".
We shot & edited an exclusive music video for this, but not sure if SPIN is going to release those at a later date or not.
posted by wcfields at 12:06 PM on July 26, 2011
We shot & edited an exclusive music video for this, but not sure if SPIN is going to release those at a later date or not.
posted by wcfields at 12:06 PM on July 26, 2011
Wow, tell me grandpa. What was it like to be a hipster before it was cool?
posted by chillmost at 12:07 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by chillmost at 12:07 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Whom! Of whom! Whom is a funny funny word. WHOM WHOM WHOM WHOM WHOM.
posted by mrgrimm at 12:10 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by mrgrimm at 12:10 PM on July 26, 2011
No list of Nirvana covers is complete without Dokaka's Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Dokaka is trippy, listening to his album is the closest in my life I've come to being on drugs.
posted by L'Estrange Fruit at 12:10 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Dokaka is trippy, listening to his album is the closest in my life I've come to being on drugs.
posted by L'Estrange Fruit at 12:10 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
tori amos covering smells like teen spirit
which is really just an excuse to post jawbox covering tori amos
posted by nadawi at 12:17 PM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
which is really just an excuse to post jawbox covering tori amos
posted by nadawi at 12:17 PM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
Here are the Deftones covering Jawbox (now let's bring this all the way back to Nirvana).
posted by drezdn at 12:19 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by drezdn at 12:19 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
oh, and i can't find it now*, but supposedly dave grohl said he feels like he kind of fucked up nirvana by joining the band - that his steady, unbreaking drumming messed up the sound.
*googling for dave grohl ruined nirvana is apparently too vast a category to be helpful.
posted by nadawi at 12:20 PM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
*googling for dave grohl ruined nirvana is apparently too vast a category to be helpful.
posted by nadawi at 12:20 PM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
On the other hand, I've never heard of Jessica Lea Mayfield, but the fact she's doing my favorite track (Lounge Act) and her description of it, makes me nervous.
Wow, I really don't like her voice. That's my favorite track too, or Territorial Pissings. Surfer Blood wins, imo. Go full acoustic or go original.
I really wanted to like the Midnight Juggernauts, but couldn't do it.
I'm very surprised no one's mentioned Butch Walker or The Vaselines. Those are the two best covers, imo. The Vaselines, as you know, are absolutely fantastic, and Kurt Cobain called Eugene Kelly and Frances McKee his "most favorite songwriters in the whole world."
No one posted Miley's version of Smells Like Teen Spirit yet???
That's been my "rickroll" goto for the summer of 2011.
posted by mrgrimm at 12:21 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Wow, I really don't like her voice. That's my favorite track too, or Territorial Pissings. Surfer Blood wins, imo. Go full acoustic or go original.
I really wanted to like the Midnight Juggernauts, but couldn't do it.
I'm very surprised no one's mentioned Butch Walker or The Vaselines. Those are the two best covers, imo. The Vaselines, as you know, are absolutely fantastic, and Kurt Cobain called Eugene Kelly and Frances McKee his "most favorite songwriters in the whole world."
No one posted Miley's version of Smells Like Teen Spirit yet???
That's been my "rickroll" goto for the summer of 2011.
posted by mrgrimm at 12:21 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
also, posting in a separate comment, (since it may be deleted by the mods, tho I'm just linking to google here) ...
the Newermind cover album is available on Mediafire--google search link
that's the only downloadable version i've found so far. ... i'm not sure it's worth downloading, but there it is ... ^_^
posted by mrgrimm at 12:28 PM on July 26, 2011
the Newermind cover album is available on Mediafire--google search link
that's the only downloadable version i've found so far. ... i'm not sure it's worth downloading, but there it is ... ^_^
posted by mrgrimm at 12:28 PM on July 26, 2011
Were they good live? I regret not seeing them.
I saw them in Montreal at Les Foufounes Electriques right before Nevermind came out. So drunk that we were late and missed the Melvins who opened. What I do remember most about the show is that everyone was in a great mood, band included, and we were dancing like idiots without the usual attendant aggression of a punk bar dance floor. It's the only 'heavy' band I ever saw where that was the case.
posted by Phlegmco(tm) at 12:32 PM on July 26, 2011
I saw them in Montreal at Les Foufounes Electriques right before Nevermind came out. So drunk that we were late and missed the Melvins who opened. What I do remember most about the show is that everyone was in a great mood, band included, and we were dancing like idiots without the usual attendant aggression of a punk bar dance floor. It's the only 'heavy' band I ever saw where that was the case.
posted by Phlegmco(tm) at 12:32 PM on July 26, 2011
I wonder if the 20th anniversary edition of Live Through This will include the original demos by Kurt Cobain.
posted by entropicamericana at 12:33 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by entropicamericana at 12:33 PM on July 26, 2011
Nevermind came out 20 years ago.
Zeppelin IV came out 20 years before that.
*runs into traffic with walker and bifocals*
posted by joe lisboa at 12:39 PM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
Zeppelin IV came out 20 years before that.
*runs into traffic with walker and bifocals*
posted by joe lisboa at 12:39 PM on July 26, 2011 [5 favorites]
*hobbles into traffic, rather*
posted by joe lisboa at 12:40 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by joe lisboa at 12:40 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I wonder if the 20th anniversary edition of Live Through This will include the original demos by Kurt Cobain.
No you don't.
posted by swift at 12:43 PM on July 26, 2011
No you don't.
posted by swift at 12:43 PM on July 26, 2011
The cover of Lounge Act is exactly the kind of thing that I don't like, but I really, really like it.
This thread is making me all itchy for jamming. I need to call a drummer.
posted by uncleozzy at 12:47 PM on July 26, 2011
This thread is making me all itchy for jamming. I need to call a drummer.
posted by uncleozzy at 12:47 PM on July 26, 2011
I usually find comments of the "I'm so old", "Where has the time gone" sort made by people who still statistically have more life ahead of them than behind them to be really obnoxious, but still, I am sentimental enough to think it's kind of neat to remember discovering a new band before they made it big, only to later have that artist become a huge cultural icon.
I remember sharing a 5-hour car ride with a group of people from where I went to college down to the Bay Area, and having one of the women in the car pop in a tape of this new band , Nirvana, who I had never heard of and figured I would never hear of again since it sounded much different than the type of music typically being played on the radio and thus figured they were doomed to be appreciated only by hardcore music aficionados who sought out "underground" music, only to have them change the entire landscape of music shortly thereafter.
One of my favorite "I saw them before they hit it big" experiences was seeing No Doubt play a tiny club in Berkeley (about the size of a typical elementary school multi-purpose room) in, I'm guessing, `90 or `91. The main things I remember are that the band had far more members at the time than the four who are most associated with the group, their sound was much more traditional ska as opposed to the more pop-infused version they are now best known for, Gwen Stefani was a brunette and for most of the show guys were stuffing $1 bills into her pants.
posted by The Gooch at 12:59 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I remember sharing a 5-hour car ride with a group of people from where I went to college down to the Bay Area, and having one of the women in the car pop in a tape of this new band , Nirvana, who I had never heard of and figured I would never hear of again since it sounded much different than the type of music typically being played on the radio and thus figured they were doomed to be appreciated only by hardcore music aficionados who sought out "underground" music, only to have them change the entire landscape of music shortly thereafter.
One of my favorite "I saw them before they hit it big" experiences was seeing No Doubt play a tiny club in Berkeley (about the size of a typical elementary school multi-purpose room) in, I'm guessing, `90 or `91. The main things I remember are that the band had far more members at the time than the four who are most associated with the group, their sound was much more traditional ska as opposed to the more pop-infused version they are now best known for, Gwen Stefani was a brunette and for most of the show guys were stuffing $1 bills into her pants.
posted by The Gooch at 12:59 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
The World Famous,
Come on, dude. I (and apparently several others) literally laughed out loud when I read your and Guy Innagorillasuit's comments. They're such perfect examples of what a stereotypical cooler-than-thou poser would say, it's hilarious.
Perhaps you didn't mean it to come out that way, but it reeks of, "Yeah, I liked them before they sold out and went ::shudder:: pop and were seized upon by the philistines." The "alas" part certainly didn't help.
posted by Sangermaine at 1:05 PM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Come on, dude. I (and apparently several others) literally laughed out loud when I read your and Guy Innagorillasuit's comments. They're such perfect examples of what a stereotypical cooler-than-thou poser would say, it's hilarious.
Perhaps you didn't mean it to come out that way, but it reeks of, "Yeah, I liked them before they sold out and went ::shudder:: pop and were seized upon by the philistines." The "alas" part certainly didn't help.
posted by Sangermaine at 1:05 PM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
I first heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and called one of my best friends to turn it on and listen. His phone was busy, he was calling me to do the same.
One of my favorite "I saw them before they hit it big" experiences was seeing No Doubt play a tiny club in Berkeley (about the size of a typical elementary school multi-purpose room) in, I'm guessing, `90 or `91.
I first saw No Doubt playing at Disneyland. No one ever believes me, but I just googled "No Doubt Grad Night 1995" and bam, first link. I am proud to say I heckled them.
This made me go back and look at my old tape collection. WTH was I doing at 11 y.o. with tapes from Public Enemy, N.W.A. and Bon Jovi?
posted by roquetuen at 1:11 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
One of my favorite "I saw them before they hit it big" experiences was seeing No Doubt play a tiny club in Berkeley (about the size of a typical elementary school multi-purpose room) in, I'm guessing, `90 or `91.
I first saw No Doubt playing at Disneyland. No one ever believes me, but I just googled "No Doubt Grad Night 1995" and bam, first link. I am proud to say I heckled them.
This made me go back and look at my old tape collection. WTH was I doing at 11 y.o. with tapes from Public Enemy, N.W.A. and Bon Jovi?
posted by roquetuen at 1:11 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Rebecca Loebe's take on Come As You Are is a weird, moody lounge track. I remember liking the live audition more (Hulu link, sorry), but now it sounds a bit smarmy.
posted by filthy light thief at 1:33 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by filthy light thief at 1:33 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
After posting earlier that I was nervous about the Lounge Act cover, probably the best I can say is that it came and went and I didn't even notice it playing. But I just gave it a second listen and it truly is forgettable.
Overall my favorites were In Bloom and Stay Away, because, as somebody else stated above, the best way to cover Nirvana is to take it in a totally new direction.
posted by mannequito at 1:41 PM on July 26, 2011
Overall my favorites were In Bloom and Stay Away, because, as somebody else stated above, the best way to cover Nirvana is to take it in a totally new direction.
posted by mannequito at 1:41 PM on July 26, 2011
Though I have to say Guy Inagorillasuit could've gone a little further. Like so:
Nirvana? That Melvins cover band that made one good demo? Why are people still talking about them?
OR
Everything after the "Sliver" 7" was a sell-out.
I mean, c'mon, Guy, if you're gonna pose, fucking pose.
It's no pose. Hell, the only Melvins I own is the Gluey Porch Treatments and Ozma, for that matter. I did buy Nevermind even though it was disappointing , but it's the last Nirvana album I bought.
Their music and my tastes changed in different directions, it happens.
posted by Guy Innagorillasuit at 1:44 PM on July 26, 2011
Nirvana? That Melvins cover band that made one good demo? Why are people still talking about them?
OR
Everything after the "Sliver" 7" was a sell-out.
I mean, c'mon, Guy, if you're gonna pose, fucking pose.
It's no pose. Hell, the only Melvins I own is the Gluey Porch Treatments and Ozma, for that matter. I did buy Nevermind even though it was disappointing , but it's the last Nirvana album I bought.
Their music and my tastes changed in different directions, it happens.
posted by Guy Innagorillasuit at 1:44 PM on July 26, 2011
Hell, if I was just trying to be a dick, I'd go to my old standby "Scream was the best band Dave Grohl was ever in."
posted by Guy Innagorillasuit at 1:48 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by Guy Innagorillasuit at 1:48 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
The World Famous has more time and eloquence than I do, but you guys are projecting a whole lot onto what we said.
posted by Guy Innagorillasuit at 2:03 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by Guy Innagorillasuit at 2:03 PM on July 26, 2011
TAD AND THE MELVINS OR YOU'RE A NEGLIGIBLE WOULD-BE
posted by everichon at 2:05 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by everichon at 2:05 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
A stereotypical cooler-than-thou poser would say that he was surprised in 1991 that Nirvana had gone to a major label and released a pop single?
"Alas," an "overproduced" pop single.
Yes, basically that sentence was every stereotype that people have associated with the Hipster, cooler-than-thou, movement.
I didn't say you were right or wrong, or that I agreed or disagreed with your statement, just pointed out the fact that I had never seen such a statement outside of hyperbole and hipster memes.
posted by synthetik at 2:07 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
"Alas," an "overproduced" pop single.
Yes, basically that sentence was every stereotype that people have associated with the Hipster, cooler-than-thou, movement.
I didn't say you were right or wrong, or that I agreed or disagreed with your statement, just pointed out the fact that I had never seen such a statement outside of hyperbole and hipster memes.
posted by synthetik at 2:07 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I don't really care if "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is a pop song or otherwise. If's just a good fucking song. Likewise for Nevermind.
I GUESS I'M JUST A BIG LAME
posted by sinnesloeschen at 2:08 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I GUESS I'M JUST A BIG LAME
posted by sinnesloeschen at 2:08 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
So, I was a college DJ for much of the late 80's and early 90's. I was a Replacements/Pixies sort of guy at heart, though my shows ranged from hardcore to pretty straightforward pop and rock depending on my mood and current likes.
Anyhow, I played a few random tracks from Bleach when it came out, but at the time it sounded (to my arguably tin ear) a lot like everything else that was punk and distorted. I had other fish to fry (thank you, Steve Albini).
Come 1991, I'm DJing out here in Hawaii, playing the midnight to three slot at KTUH (the BEST slot) and Nirvana has a new album out. Bleach hadn't made much of an impression on me, as I mentioned before, so I am in no hurray to play it. Some guy calls up and requests a song by them - "Smells Like Teen Spirit." I remember this guys voice all these years later because he was excited - really, really excited about the song. He was even more excited when I told him I'd not heard it yet.
So I played it and I was like "Holy shit, this is something unexpected."
The guy who made the request calls me back and asks me what I thought. I said, "yeah, that was really pretty good. I wonder if the whole album is as good."
He says, "YOU HAVE THE WHOLE ALBUM?"
I guess the station had just gotten the album that day because they'd only been playing the single up to that point.
So I spent the next three hours playing two songs by other bands and one song song from Nevermind. The dude who made the initial request would call after each song and we'd banter about it. I think we agreed that we really dug "Territorial Pissings" and "Lithium" best on first listen, but we really enjoyed the whole album.
I think I spent the next three or four months playing at least two tracks from Nevermind during every show. I went back and really listened to Bleach finally and said "Oh, I get it now." I don't think I would have listened to the earlier album without the later album. My only excuse is that when you're DJing at college stations, sometimes you only had time to listen to the first twenty seconds of a song before deciding whether it was something you were going to play next or not. I made a lot of poor snap judgements about music. I mean, I loved the Pixies, but barely played anything from Doolittle because I didn't like "Monkey Gone To Heaven" and now I realize that album is amazing.
Anyhow, Cobain was a great songwriter, Nirvana was peaking during Nevermind and In Utero and Butch Vig's production was (in 1991) mind-expanding for me at least. It felt like the music was exploding out of the speakers, as opposed to hiding behind a wall of cellophane. I don't know how else to describe it.
posted by Joey Michaels at 2:12 PM on July 26, 2011 [11 favorites]
Anyhow, I played a few random tracks from Bleach when it came out, but at the time it sounded (to my arguably tin ear) a lot like everything else that was punk and distorted. I had other fish to fry (thank you, Steve Albini).
Come 1991, I'm DJing out here in Hawaii, playing the midnight to three slot at KTUH (the BEST slot) and Nirvana has a new album out. Bleach hadn't made much of an impression on me, as I mentioned before, so I am in no hurray to play it. Some guy calls up and requests a song by them - "Smells Like Teen Spirit." I remember this guys voice all these years later because he was excited - really, really excited about the song. He was even more excited when I told him I'd not heard it yet.
So I played it and I was like "Holy shit, this is something unexpected."
The guy who made the request calls me back and asks me what I thought. I said, "yeah, that was really pretty good. I wonder if the whole album is as good."
He says, "YOU HAVE THE WHOLE ALBUM?"
I guess the station had just gotten the album that day because they'd only been playing the single up to that point.
So I spent the next three hours playing two songs by other bands and one song song from Nevermind. The dude who made the initial request would call after each song and we'd banter about it. I think we agreed that we really dug "Territorial Pissings" and "Lithium" best on first listen, but we really enjoyed the whole album.
I think I spent the next three or four months playing at least two tracks from Nevermind during every show. I went back and really listened to Bleach finally and said "Oh, I get it now." I don't think I would have listened to the earlier album without the later album. My only excuse is that when you're DJing at college stations, sometimes you only had time to listen to the first twenty seconds of a song before deciding whether it was something you were going to play next or not. I made a lot of poor snap judgements about music. I mean, I loved the Pixies, but barely played anything from Doolittle because I didn't like "Monkey Gone To Heaven" and now I realize that album is amazing.
Anyhow, Cobain was a great songwriter, Nirvana was peaking during Nevermind and In Utero and Butch Vig's production was (in 1991) mind-expanding for me at least. It felt like the music was exploding out of the speakers, as opposed to hiding behind a wall of cellophane. I don't know how else to describe it.
posted by Joey Michaels at 2:12 PM on July 26, 2011 [11 favorites]
You did not point that out until just now. And if I had known that you've never heard the word "overproduced" outside of hyperbole and hipster memes, I would have taken your response less seriously. My apologies.
Not to start an argument, but you might want to read what I wrote again. I literally say "most hipster statement I have ever seen" "thought they were exaggerating." I probably could have been clearer in who 'they' were (people making hipster quotes) but I didn't attack the meaning behind the statement, just the phrasing of the statement itself.
posted by synthetik at 2:12 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Not to start an argument, but you might want to read what I wrote again. I literally say "most hipster statement I have ever seen" "thought they were exaggerating." I probably could have been clearer in who 'they' were (people making hipster quotes) but I didn't attack the meaning behind the statement, just the phrasing of the statement itself.
posted by synthetik at 2:12 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I thought this would be more fun.
anywho: I was weened on Nevermind-- that fucking disc was more important to me and my friends than food or shoes. For the summer of '92, it was a steady diet of Nevermind, the Use Your Illusions, Weird Al's Off The Deep End, and the Black Album. Most of that time was Nevermind.
woops-- all on tape, not disc.
That said,
Incesticide is otherworldy; Bleach is supernatural.
posted by herbplarfegan at 2:15 PM on July 26, 2011
anywho: I was weened on Nevermind-- that fucking disc was more important to me and my friends than food or shoes. For the summer of '92, it was a steady diet of Nevermind, the Use Your Illusions, Weird Al's Off The Deep End, and the Black Album. Most of that time was Nevermind.
woops-- all on tape, not disc.
That said,
Incesticide is otherworldy; Bleach is supernatural.
posted by herbplarfegan at 2:15 PM on July 26, 2011
Just downloaded the cover album. I'm liking the Butch Walker version of In Bloom. It's all over the place in a really good way. (it's like Queen meets the Strokes, maybe?)
Also, I'm supposed to have a comic strip in the printed edition, so... look for "metafilter's own..."
posted by JBennett at 2:18 PM on July 26, 2011
Also, I'm supposed to have a comic strip in the printed edition, so... look for "metafilter's own..."
posted by JBennett at 2:18 PM on July 26, 2011
I love Nirvana, pretty much everything they ever did was raw and great. Before Nirvana, I'd never really heard music; Nirvana was my gateway drug, and I've gone so, so far since that fateful introduction.
So yeah, I love 'em, love 'em, love 'em. But for years I haven't been able to listen... now that I'm about Kurt's age it is starting to make sense again.
My all-time favorites are Radio Friendly Unit Shifter and Even In His Youth.
Too bad nobody covered those, and too bad about the sound effects on Palmer's track. I like her stuff, too, but I don't need a balloon-filling-up sound or screechy noises to creep me out.
posted by fake at 2:25 PM on July 26, 2011
So yeah, I love 'em, love 'em, love 'em. But for years I haven't been able to listen... now that I'm about Kurt's age it is starting to make sense again.
My all-time favorites are Radio Friendly Unit Shifter and Even In His Youth.
Too bad nobody covered those, and too bad about the sound effects on Palmer's track. I like her stuff, too, but I don't need a balloon-filling-up sound or screechy noises to creep me out.
posted by fake at 2:25 PM on July 26, 2011
"anything other than loopy, gleeful nostalgia."
To each their own. Some people have a critical position on every album, era, and effort. For those of us that don't, it sometimes appears more effortful, deliberate, and postured than simply enjoying/not enjoying the music.
Doesn't mean it is, doesn't mean it's not.
Also, I'm supposed to have a comic strip in the printed edition, so... look for "metafilter's own..."
Congrats, JBennett!
posted by fake at 2:34 PM on July 26, 2011
To each their own. Some people have a critical position on every album, era, and effort. For those of us that don't, it sometimes appears more effortful, deliberate, and postured than simply enjoying/not enjoying the music.
Doesn't mean it is, doesn't mean it's not.
Also, I'm supposed to have a comic strip in the printed edition, so... look for "metafilter's own..."
Congrats, JBennett!
posted by fake at 2:34 PM on July 26, 2011
It's no Superfuzz/Bigmuff...
posted by AJaffe at 2:40 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by AJaffe at 2:40 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I'm on the older edge of the Nirvana demographic, but I'll contribute my memory of riding in the car back then (around Boston), switching between radio stations, and each of three adjacent stations was playing "Teen Spirit". I think my thought was "whatayaknow?, punk's back".
posted by benito.strauss at 2:41 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by benito.strauss at 2:41 PM on July 26, 2011
Okay, this not only makes me feel old but reminds me of how lame I was in high school because I only heard Smells Like Teen Spirit (and heard of Nirvana) after first hearing Weird Al's Smells Like Nirvana. I mean, I liked both songs, but it was a few years before it was Nirvana's version that sounded 'right' to me.
posted by dismitree at 2:50 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by dismitree at 2:50 PM on July 26, 2011
The best smells like teen spirit covers are the ones from Tori Amos, but the psychedelic-ish one from Pleasure Beach is pretty good too.
posted by palbo at 2:51 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by palbo at 2:51 PM on July 26, 2011
I turned 21 in 1991 when this record came out; I remember a lot about 1991. Most of it viscerally as you do with your memories of the whole late teenage/end of college thing. But I--quite honestly--don't know when I heard Nirvana first; whether I liked it; or what I thought about it, even though I ended up grabbing the entire back catalog at a record convention in the early 90's. *Lots* of people--even US people--who were 20 years old when this record came out paid no attention to it--they weren't all people with bad tastes in music or only listening to Madonna or GunsNRoses, either. Real Ramona and Loveless were the 1991 records that changed my life, personally, and Love's Secret Domain was the one that shocked me with the direction the band was taking. Pointing out there there was not a universal shock, awe and lovefest reaction to Smells Like Teen Spirit, even among the young & hip at the time, is not really a pissing contest about who was more younger and more hipper at the time. It's--I think--just a way of trying to rub away the white-washing of nostalgia.
I also think these covers are mostly boring. Amanda Palmer's is interesting and so is Charles Bradley's. It's not great, but at least the wacky club Come As You Are tries to make you hear the song as something other than Kurt Cobain's personal diary.
posted by crush-onastick at 2:53 PM on July 26, 2011
I also think these covers are mostly boring. Amanda Palmer's is interesting and so is Charles Bradley's. It's not great, but at least the wacky club Come As You Are tries to make you hear the song as something other than Kurt Cobain's personal diary.
posted by crush-onastick at 2:53 PM on July 26, 2011
Metafilter: anything other than loopy, gleeful nostalgia.
posted by herbplarfegan at 3:01 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by herbplarfegan at 3:01 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Like too many bands (INXS, the Violent Femmes) Nirvana was one of those bands that I developed a knee-jerk reaction to hearing seriously overplayed on the radio, and I unfortunately avoided as a result for far too long, only years later coming to discover something that many of my friends picked up on early "Hey, these guys are actually really pretty damn good" and feeling a bit like an idiot.
So that being said, Titus Andronicus' cover of Breed sounds pretty damn good.
posted by quin at 3:15 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
So that being said, Titus Andronicus' cover of Breed sounds pretty damn good.
posted by quin at 3:15 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Nirvana you say, you mean those Seattle wasters that ripped off Killing Joke? Are kids still talking about them? To each their own I suppose.
I <3 Hamburgers.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 3:19 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I <3 Hamburgers.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 3:19 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Bleach is fantastic, and has aged really well, in my opinion. It's a string of awesome songs from start of finish, varied but cohesive. Wonderful.
Nevermind is also a really strong showcase of songwriting skills, but it doesn't have that certain thing that Bleach has that makes me bounce around like a maniac whenever I put it on. Lounge Act is pretty awesome, though.
posted by neuromodulator at 3:48 PM on July 26, 2011
Nevermind is also a really strong showcase of songwriting skills, but it doesn't have that certain thing that Bleach has that makes me bounce around like a maniac whenever I put it on. Lounge Act is pretty awesome, though.
posted by neuromodulator at 3:48 PM on July 26, 2011
I just went to watch the Smells Like Teen Spirit video on youtube.
I remember watching this video on MTV with the way-cool dude from up the block who used to babysit for me sometimes when I was (7? 8? 9?) c. 1992-4. The same one who used to call his girlfriend on the phone from my house, and then hang up and tell me how he couldn't wait to see her in a bikini that weekend. He was like 16 and I never knew what the fuck he was talking about but it seemed kind of exciting and, like, pertinent, in some way I couldn't put my finger on.
Seeing this video at that age, with the sound blasting on my parents' Trinitron, had the same effect on me. That weird fucking janitor; all the smoke; Cobain just standing there wailing at all these kids; the hair, the flannel, the headbanging, Jesus. What the hell was going on here? The whole high-school-gym thing now seems almost ludicrously juvenile and angsty but seeing it as a kid, there was a sort of animal pathos to it that was unlike anything I'd known existed before. It was almost like a sexual awakening.
posted by dixiecupdrinking at 3:50 PM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
I remember watching this video on MTV with the way-cool dude from up the block who used to babysit for me sometimes when I was (7? 8? 9?) c. 1992-4. The same one who used to call his girlfriend on the phone from my house, and then hang up and tell me how he couldn't wait to see her in a bikini that weekend. He was like 16 and I never knew what the fuck he was talking about but it seemed kind of exciting and, like, pertinent, in some way I couldn't put my finger on.
Seeing this video at that age, with the sound blasting on my parents' Trinitron, had the same effect on me. That weird fucking janitor; all the smoke; Cobain just standing there wailing at all these kids; the hair, the flannel, the headbanging, Jesus. What the hell was going on here? The whole high-school-gym thing now seems almost ludicrously juvenile and angsty but seeing it as a kid, there was a sort of animal pathos to it that was unlike anything I'd known existed before. It was almost like a sexual awakening.
posted by dixiecupdrinking at 3:50 PM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
Nevermind was a good record but In Utero was their masterwork. So many great albums from those olden times. I haven't been genuinely excited by music since. Sure, I looked forward to My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky when Michael Gira announced a while back that he was reforming Swans, but upon hearing the album and discovering that it was no different from Angels of Light, I realise that pretty much everything I've bought since In Utero has been a letdown in one way or another. That record was the last time I was truly compelled, amazed, riveted, and surprised all the way through, by each and every single track. Sure I've always dug my Tea Party and Isis and Godspeed! You Black Emperor albums and whatever but the first two I've always been "Ehh, I think I'll skip this track" and the third you just have on in the background when you're fantasizing about murdering everyone in the whole world with. In Utero is something I'll listen to again and again, and never be moved to skip a particular song.
posted by tumid dahlia at 3:51 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by tumid dahlia at 3:51 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I was noticing that there was a ton of Nirvana on the radio today as I drove four hours home and was wondering how that happened.
Nirvana played at Hampshire College when I was there and I didn't go because it was $3 and that was too expensive and I didn't like the Bleach album cover and didn't know the music very well at the time. Six months later I'd moved to Seattle, a place where I finally fit in for once in my damned life, and their music was everything that was right, at the time, about not being in New England and being just exactly where I was. Getting to spend time driving around on the Olympic Peninsula, and especially Aberdeen where Cobain was from, gave the music [esp the poppy Teen Spirit stuff] a sort of poignancy to me. Like the music came from a certain place but once it got popular that place became inauthentic despite itself. Cobain's arc was so sad in so many ways.
On preview: I had the same feeling about the Teen Spirit video, even though I was older. "What the hell was going on here?"
posted by jessamyn at 3:51 PM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Nirvana played at Hampshire College when I was there and I didn't go because it was $3 and that was too expensive and I didn't like the Bleach album cover and didn't know the music very well at the time. Six months later I'd moved to Seattle, a place where I finally fit in for once in my damned life, and their music was everything that was right, at the time, about not being in New England and being just exactly where I was. Getting to spend time driving around on the Olympic Peninsula, and especially Aberdeen where Cobain was from, gave the music [esp the poppy Teen Spirit stuff] a sort of poignancy to me. Like the music came from a certain place but once it got popular that place became inauthentic despite itself. Cobain's arc was so sad in so many ways.
On preview: I had the same feeling about the Teen Spirit video, even though I was older. "What the hell was going on here?"
posted by jessamyn at 3:51 PM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
I'm slightly too young for Nirvana. It falls into the gap between classic rock and new indie, so besides the singles I haven't really got into them. I downloaded this because Titus Andronicus and Foxy Shazam (the best new glam band out) are on it, but haven't listened yet.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 3:54 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 3:54 PM on July 26, 2011
Wow, the YouTube commenters really hate the Midnight Juggernauts cover. Something tells me Nirvana would think differently.
When did Juggers get big overseas? I don't mind them.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 3:56 PM on July 26, 2011
When did Juggers get big overseas? I don't mind them.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 3:56 PM on July 26, 2011
I'm slightly too young for Nirvana.
Really? I think we're the same age and my friends and I listened to this shit constantly in high school. Granted, we weren't there for it, but still.
posted by dixiecupdrinking at 4:01 PM on July 26, 2011
Really? I think we're the same age and my friends and I listened to this shit constantly in high school. Granted, we weren't there for it, but still.
posted by dixiecupdrinking at 4:01 PM on July 26, 2011
Did I mention that I love Bleach?
posted by neuromodulator at 4:02 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by neuromodulator at 4:02 PM on July 26, 2011
Really? I think we're the same age and my friends and I listened to this shit constantly in high school. Granted, we weren't there for it, but still.
I was a classic rock kid, and Nirvana weren't played on classic rock radio. My new music came from VH1, and they didn't play them. My friends listened to Dylan or the Clash. I heard and loved SLTS constantly, but never went beyond that. Pretty much everything from the 90s is a musical gap for me.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 4:08 PM on July 26, 2011
I was a classic rock kid, and Nirvana weren't played on classic rock radio. My new music came from VH1, and they didn't play them. My friends listened to Dylan or the Clash. I heard and loved SLTS constantly, but never went beyond that. Pretty much everything from the 90s is a musical gap for me.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 4:08 PM on July 26, 2011
I'm slightly too young for Nirvana. It falls into the gap between classic rock and new indie, so besides the singles I haven't really got into them. I downloaded this because Titus Andronicus and Foxy Shazam (the best new glam band out) are on it, but haven't listened yet.
They were a big deal. There was nothing like it on the radio at that time, especially for a kid of 10 years old whose only exposure to music was through MTV or my local pop station, Power99. My older sister said he looked like a monkey, and I was immediately offended. I knew it was cool. I could feel it. Not only was it cool, but as the line goes from SLC punk, it was new. It was mine.
The way it swept over everything was pretty incredible. All my friends started wearing plaid. Power 99 turned into 99x. I don't know if I'm just imagining it, but I think for a time you could catch a Bon Jovi video and Smells Like Teen Spirit in the same day.
That was back when Beavis and Butthead came on at 4 or 5 pm. Back when MTV had music videos, even. Back when music seemed to be much more meaningful, and not just a background nostalgia track, when you argued about albums on your way to the record store, hoping you had enough for two CDs instead of just one on the day they came out. Hell, Smells Like Teen Spirit was so old I had the cassette. I had a beat up player with a built-in speaker, and I would blare it while it drooped out of my back shorts pocket while I rollerbladed around the neighborhood.*
But that's probably just me, remembering those days like I want to remember them.
*And yes, I'm still single.
posted by notion at 4:30 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
They were a big deal. There was nothing like it on the radio at that time, especially for a kid of 10 years old whose only exposure to music was through MTV or my local pop station, Power99. My older sister said he looked like a monkey, and I was immediately offended. I knew it was cool. I could feel it. Not only was it cool, but as the line goes from SLC punk, it was new. It was mine.
The way it swept over everything was pretty incredible. All my friends started wearing plaid. Power 99 turned into 99x. I don't know if I'm just imagining it, but I think for a time you could catch a Bon Jovi video and Smells Like Teen Spirit in the same day.
That was back when Beavis and Butthead came on at 4 or 5 pm. Back when MTV had music videos, even. Back when music seemed to be much more meaningful, and not just a background nostalgia track, when you argued about albums on your way to the record store, hoping you had enough for two CDs instead of just one on the day they came out. Hell, Smells Like Teen Spirit was so old I had the cassette. I had a beat up player with a built-in speaker, and I would blare it while it drooped out of my back shorts pocket while I rollerbladed around the neighborhood.*
But that's probably just me, remembering those days like I want to remember them.
*And yes, I'm still single.
posted by notion at 4:30 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
It falls into the gap between classic rock and new indie ....
I think you've missed some things there. Actually, I think you've missed a lot of things there.
posted by benito.strauss at 4:31 PM on July 26, 2011
I think you've missed some things there. Actually, I think you've missed a lot of things there.
posted by benito.strauss at 4:31 PM on July 26, 2011
Everything after the "Sliver" 7" was a sell-out.
GRAMMA TAKE ME HOME
I WANNA BE ALONE
Nevermind is a great album but Sliver is 2 minutes of perfect.
"Most amazing part? This album, as well as Blood Sugar Sex Magik by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest came out on the same day."
Most of The Low End Theory has aged well, Arsenio and Sky Pager references aside. Give it a listen if you haven't for a while.
1997 > 1991 though. Life After Death, Supa Dupa Fly, OK Computer, Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space, Homework, Dig Me Out, The Carnival...
posted by Blue Meanie at 5:00 PM on July 26, 2011
GRAMMA TAKE ME HOME
I WANNA BE ALONE
Nevermind is a great album but Sliver is 2 minutes of perfect.
"Most amazing part? This album, as well as Blood Sugar Sex Magik by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest came out on the same day."
Most of The Low End Theory has aged well, Arsenio and Sky Pager references aside. Give it a listen if you haven't for a while.
1997 > 1991 though. Life After Death, Supa Dupa Fly, OK Computer, Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space, Homework, Dig Me Out, The Carnival...
posted by Blue Meanie at 5:00 PM on July 26, 2011
Am I the only one who got excited by mistakenly reading that as Charles Barkley & The Menahn Street Band.
posted by holdkris99 at 5:33 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by holdkris99 at 5:33 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Power 99 turned into 99x.
Wow, did not think I would be encountering Atlanta radio flashbacks here.
posted by dixiecupdrinking at 5:36 PM on July 26, 2011
Wow, did not think I would be encountering Atlanta radio flashbacks here.
posted by dixiecupdrinking at 5:36 PM on July 26, 2011
My Mom died 2 years ago at 83. This is her favorite Nirvana song.
posted by bjgeiger at 5:36 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by bjgeiger at 5:36 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
I shouldn't tell this story, but I will.
I was in college in 1991. I was with some friends, and we bought some acid. Things were just getting really weird, and one of them convinced everybody to go downtown to see some band I had never heard of. I had just spent my last $5 on the acid, so I was broke. They went anyway, leaving me alone. I messed around campus by myself during the peak of the trip (I think I remember eating pine needles) and eventually found my way back to the dorm room where my tripping friends had returned from the show. The band, they all gushed, was incredible. One of them had bought the album at the show. It was Nevermind. We listened to it again and again. The next week, it was all over the radio.
posted by vibrotronica at 5:50 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I was in college in 1991. I was with some friends, and we bought some acid. Things were just getting really weird, and one of them convinced everybody to go downtown to see some band I had never heard of. I had just spent my last $5 on the acid, so I was broke. They went anyway, leaving me alone. I messed around campus by myself during the peak of the trip (I think I remember eating pine needles) and eventually found my way back to the dorm room where my tripping friends had returned from the show. The band, they all gushed, was incredible. One of them had bought the album at the show. It was Nevermind. We listened to it again and again. The next week, it was all over the radio.
posted by vibrotronica at 5:50 PM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
ah thanks crush-onastick, I was reading this thinking that I remember dancing to smells like teen spirit at my brother's wedding, and that was great, but what the hell was I really into at the time? Love's Secret Domain is still one of my favourite albums.
posted by 5_13_23_42_69_666 at 6:09 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by 5_13_23_42_69_666 at 6:09 PM on July 26, 2011
So many good bands in the early 90's. I loved Nirvana, but I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Sugar yet. I was too young for Hüsker Dü, but Sugar fucking rocked. I saw them in a small club (I forget which year) and they were simply primal energy.
posted by arcticseal at 8:13 PM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by arcticseal at 8:13 PM on July 26, 2011 [3 favorites]
Metafilter:Arsenio and Sky Pager references aside.
posted by joe lisboa at 8:41 PM on July 26, 2011
posted by joe lisboa at 8:41 PM on July 26, 2011
In 1991 I started my second year of my first teaching job at a private Christian high school. My classroom was in the basement and my first class of the day, all year long, was grade 11 English Lit starting at 8 am. At some point during that year I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit in that basement hallway - dank, gray tile floor, cinder-block walls painted a faint green. I have this memory. I want to believe that one of my kids, Nick maybe, was playing it on the ghetto blaster on my desk. Oh I wanted to turn that thing as loud as I could. I wanted to be one of the kids. I wanted to celebrate hating all the shit that was school, especially a Christian school.
Arguing about production values and cool this or knock off that seems so to miss the point that at that point in time a lot of us, young and not as young as we wish we were, felt like somebody got it, and we sang along (even if Kurt was daring us not to).
To this day, at least once a semester (no longer working in the private school, thank God!), I play Nevermind in my classes and every time the kids (most of them) recognize it and nod their heads, track after track. It may not be their style, but they understand and appreciate what's being said and done.
posted by kneecapped at 9:20 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Arguing about production values and cool this or knock off that seems so to miss the point that at that point in time a lot of us, young and not as young as we wish we were, felt like somebody got it, and we sang along (even if Kurt was daring us not to).
To this day, at least once a semester (no longer working in the private school, thank God!), I play Nevermind in my classes and every time the kids (most of them) recognize it and nod their heads, track after track. It may not be their style, but they understand and appreciate what's being said and done.
posted by kneecapped at 9:20 PM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Disco That No-Talent Hack" yt did it better, IMHO.
Ugh he gave me a disc of his AC/DC covers. It always freaks me out.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 9:40 PM on July 26, 2011
Ugh he gave me a disc of his AC/DC covers. It always freaks me out.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 9:40 PM on July 26, 2011
TAD AND THE MELVINS OR YOU'RE A NEGLIGIBLE WOULD-BE
Dwarves and Thinking Feller's Union or you're panty-waist.
posted by spicynuts at 10:58 PM on July 26, 2011
TAD AND THE MELVINS OR YOU'RE A NEGLIGIBLE WOULD-BE
Dwarves and Thinking Feller's Union or you're panty-waist.
The Scientists or you're un-Australian
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 11:03 PM on July 26, 2011
Revolting Cocks and 1,000 Homo DJs or you're a Klingon.
posted by spicynuts at 12:08 AM on July 27, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by spicynuts at 12:08 AM on July 27, 2011 [4 favorites]
Ooh, that banjo in "Polly" is really lovely - I would have liked to hear a version that is just that and none of the other weird sound effects.
I was too young for Nirvana (Kurt died when I was 9), but I caught up and became a very devoted fan as a teenager, and I still enjoy at least parts of all of their albums. I wish we didn't have to have this same tired conversation about selling out or whatever every single time Nirvana comes up here.
posted by naoko at 12:38 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
I was too young for Nirvana (Kurt died when I was 9), but I caught up and became a very devoted fan as a teenager, and I still enjoy at least parts of all of their albums. I wish we didn't have to have this same tired conversation about selling out or whatever every single time Nirvana comes up here.
posted by naoko at 12:38 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
In 1991, I was 18 years old. Already a nirvana fan, but from the subpop angle, as I was a massive Soundgarden fan. Freshman year at college, moved to NYC to start art school. In september saw Nirvana and Mudhoney play within a week of eachother at the Marquee and was floored. Sonic Youth played a month later. Between September & Christmas, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins and the Chili Peppers released albums and toured. Then Soundgarden toured on their own, then came back to town opening for Guns N Roses.
What a great time to be a music lover and 18 years old.
Now, 20 years later, I don't feel old. I feel grateful.
posted by Hickeystudio at 3:25 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
What a great time to be a music lover and 18 years old.
Now, 20 years later, I don't feel old. I feel grateful.
posted by Hickeystudio at 3:25 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
Ahhh, nostalgia. I was in high school during the grunge era, and i never owned any albums by Nirvana or Pearl Jam. I was listening to Michael Jackson, Ace of Base, and REM. I was pretty "uncool," but now i feel strangely radical.
-thinks grunge has not aged well-
posted by ELF Radio at 4:33 AM on July 27, 2011
-thinks grunge has not aged well-
posted by ELF Radio at 4:33 AM on July 27, 2011
Now, 20 years later, I don't feel old. I feel grateful.
Saw The Strokes at Hammerstein Ballroom on Halloween 2001. Have seen Pavement in Central Park, Andrew Bird, REM, Massive Attack, Deerhunter, The Black Angels, Built To Spill, and any number of bands at NYC venues in the last ten years. I still feel grateful.
posted by spicynuts at 4:36 AM on July 27, 2011
Saw The Strokes at Hammerstein Ballroom on Halloween 2001. Have seen Pavement in Central Park, Andrew Bird, REM, Massive Attack, Deerhunter, The Black Angels, Built To Spill, and any number of bands at NYC venues in the last ten years. I still feel grateful.
posted by spicynuts at 4:36 AM on July 27, 2011
Arguing about production values and cool this or knock off that seems so to miss the point that at that point in time a lot of us, young and not as young as we wish we were, felt like somebody got it, and we sang along (even if Kurt was daring us not to).
And I think this is some of the reason for people's enduring love for this band or that band, one song over another, and why the critical arguments are often beside the point. People (at least as often as not) love music for how it made them feel -- it announced some emotion at just the right time. Notice, it didn't explain that emotion or make sense of that emotion, but it put an aural face on what was probably an inchoate set of impulses, thoughts, and feelings, and that allowed you to make sense of it all in some way at some time.
Weirdly, Proust is like this, too -- whatever you feel, Marcel felt it first -- but that's another story for another thread.
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:57 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
And I think this is some of the reason for people's enduring love for this band or that band, one song over another, and why the critical arguments are often beside the point. People (at least as often as not) love music for how it made them feel -- it announced some emotion at just the right time. Notice, it didn't explain that emotion or make sense of that emotion, but it put an aural face on what was probably an inchoate set of impulses, thoughts, and feelings, and that allowed you to make sense of it all in some way at some time.
Weirdly, Proust is like this, too -- whatever you feel, Marcel felt it first -- but that's another story for another thread.
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:57 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
Forthcoming: another tribute to Nevermind, from Reimagine Music, featuring more indie/rock type bands.
posted by filthy light thief at 6:40 AM on July 27, 2011
posted by filthy light thief at 6:40 AM on July 27, 2011
GenjiAndProust, I've lately come to realize that is a huge part of what makes one feel deep enthusiasm for music. I've been wondering why, in the last ten years or so, I've found plenty of bands and musicians that I've liked, but none that I've felt absolutely apeshit loyal about. The music I do feel devotion to was discovered when I really needed to hear something that cut through day-to-day reality to express inchoate emotions (or perhaps something even deeper than emotions) that I didn't know could be expressed. Now that music, as Iron Chef might say, has gained the people's ovation and fame forever.
I've stopped expecting to discover music that seems as monumental as what I discovered in my teens and '20s because the conditions just aren't right for any music to be as powerful for me right now. And that's OK!
posted by ignignokt at 6:54 AM on July 27, 2011
I've stopped expecting to discover music that seems as monumental as what I discovered in my teens and '20s because the conditions just aren't right for any music to be as powerful for me right now. And that's OK!
posted by ignignokt at 6:54 AM on July 27, 2011
Holy Mother Of God, I'm looking at the album release list for 1991 and it's blowing my mind. Look at the legendary releases:
Nirvana Nevermind
The KLF White Room
REM Out Of Time
Slint Spiderland
Lenny Kravitz Mama Said (not my cup of tea but you can't argue it's impact)
The Orb - Adventures Beyond The UltraWorld
Temple Of The Dog
Firehose Flyin The Flannel
Primus - Sailing The Seas Of Cheese
Smashing Pumpkins - Gish
Tom Petty - Into The Great Wide Open (ok not a REAL classic but Tom Petty will never do wrong in my heart)
James - James
Fugazi - Steady Diet of Nothing
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Metallica - The Black Album (they were dead to me after And Justice For All but you know..you can't argue it was a huge part of that summer)
Blur - Leisure
Pearl Jam - Ten
Guns N Roses Use Your Illusion (again..dead to me after Appetite, but huge at the time)
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
Prince - Diamonds and Pearls
Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend
Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
U2 - Achtung Baby
That's not to mention the FM Radio/MTV giants of pop and glam rock
By comparison, here is 2011. It's fun to see who has releases on both lists.
posted by spicynuts at 8:03 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
Nirvana Nevermind
The KLF White Room
REM Out Of Time
Slint Spiderland
Lenny Kravitz Mama Said (not my cup of tea but you can't argue it's impact)
The Orb - Adventures Beyond The UltraWorld
Temple Of The Dog
Firehose Flyin The Flannel
Primus - Sailing The Seas Of Cheese
Smashing Pumpkins - Gish
Tom Petty - Into The Great Wide Open (ok not a REAL classic but Tom Petty will never do wrong in my heart)
James - James
Fugazi - Steady Diet of Nothing
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Metallica - The Black Album (they were dead to me after And Justice For All but you know..you can't argue it was a huge part of that summer)
Blur - Leisure
Pearl Jam - Ten
Guns N Roses Use Your Illusion (again..dead to me after Appetite, but huge at the time)
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
Prince - Diamonds and Pearls
Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend
Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
U2 - Achtung Baby
That's not to mention the FM Radio/MTV giants of pop and glam rock
By comparison, here is 2011. It's fun to see who has releases on both lists.
posted by spicynuts at 8:03 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
No, yes, and yes. WAIT, I WAS GOING TO NOT BE AN REM GEEK ON THIS THREAD
posted by escabeche at 9:23 AM on July 27, 2011
posted by escabeche at 9:23 AM on July 27, 2011
Seeing this video at that age, with the sound blasting on my parents' Trinitron, had the same effect on me. That weird fucking janitor; all the smoke; Cobain just standing there wailing at all these kids; the hair, the flannel, the headbanging, Jesus. What the hell was going on here?
I've never seen it, but apparently it was inspired by a Matt Dillon movie of all things.
posted by mannequito at 9:48 AM on July 27, 2011
I've never seen it, but apparently it was inspired by a Matt Dillon movie of all things.
posted by mannequito at 9:48 AM on July 27, 2011
Do you think Michael Jackson's Dangerous album, REM's Out Of Time, and Ace of Base have aged well?
I do. Particularly Ace of Base. I love me some Ace of Base.
posted by spicynuts at 9:49 AM on July 27, 2011
I'm looking at the album release list for 1991 and it's blowing my mind.
I loved a lot of those albums, but my mind is not so blown.
I'll put 1997 again 1991 any day:
Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy
Bettie Serveert - Dust Bunnies *
Built to Spill - Perfect from Now On *
Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
The Donnas - The Donnas
Daft Punk - Homework *
Bjork - Homogenic
Blur - Blur *
Erykah Badu - Baduizm
Elliott Smith - Either/Or *
Geraldine Fibbers - Butch *
Godspeed You Black Emperor - F♯A♯∞
Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West *
Pavement - Brighten the Corners
Portishead - Portishead *
Radiohead - OK Computer *
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out *
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space
Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
Stereolab - Dots and Loops *
Supergrass - In It for the Money
Verve - Urban Hymns
Wilco - Being There *
Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One
Spice Girls - Spice and Spiceworld!
* my faves
posted by mrgrimm at 10:00 AM on July 27, 2011 [2 favorites]
I loved a lot of those albums, but my mind is not so blown.
I'll put 1997 again 1991 any day:
Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy
Bettie Serveert - Dust Bunnies *
Built to Spill - Perfect from Now On *
Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
The Donnas - The Donnas
Daft Punk - Homework *
Bjork - Homogenic
Blur - Blur *
Erykah Badu - Baduizm
Elliott Smith - Either/Or *
Geraldine Fibbers - Butch *
Godspeed You Black Emperor - F♯A♯∞
Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West *
Pavement - Brighten the Corners
Portishead - Portishead *
Radiohead - OK Computer *
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out *
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space
Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
Stereolab - Dots and Loops *
Supergrass - In It for the Money
Verve - Urban Hymns
Wilco - Being There *
Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One
Spice Girls - Spice and Spiceworld!
* my faves
posted by mrgrimm at 10:00 AM on July 27, 2011 [2 favorites]
Do you think Michael Jackson's Dangerous album, REM's Out Of Time, and Ace of Base have aged well?
I do. Particularly Ace of Base. I love me some Ace of Base.
Ace of Base has aged OK, but I dare you to say it with a straight face about Dangerous or Out of Time. I love R.E.M., but Out of Time has to be one of their worst albums (Around the Sun?). Give me Automatic, Murmur, LRP, Reckoning, Accelerator, or even Monster or Green instead.
posted by mrgrimm at 10:08 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
I do. Particularly Ace of Base. I love me some Ace of Base.
Ace of Base has aged OK, but I dare you to say it with a straight face about Dangerous or Out of Time. I love R.E.M., but Out of Time has to be one of their worst albums (Around the Sun?). Give me Automatic, Murmur, LRP, Reckoning, Accelerator, or even Monster or Green instead.
posted by mrgrimm at 10:08 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
No no no this is the song off Perfect From Now On.
posted by neuromodulator at 11:23 AM on July 27, 2011
posted by neuromodulator at 11:23 AM on July 27, 2011
Ultimately, though, the best years ever for album releases were 1969 and 1986.
You forgot to take your pills again, Grandpa.
posted by entropicamericana at 11:37 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
You forgot to take your pills again, Grandpa.
posted by entropicamericana at 11:37 AM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
Dude, they are ALL "the song" off Perfect from Now On. That's why it's so great. Untrustable/Part 2 was the highlight the last time I saw them.
Nevertheless, there's not a game changer album on that list
I will disagree with you there. I'd say OK Computer, Homogenic, and Being There are game changers for sure.
Ultimately, though, the best years ever for album releases were 1969 and 1986.
I'd say the best years ever for album releases were 1970 to 1979. :p
(I'm not sure what you see in 1986. I'd take 1987 on first glance. TTD and early Neneh Cherry, FTW!)
posted by mrgrimm at 11:47 AM on July 27, 2011
Nevertheless, there's not a game changer album on that list
I will disagree with you there. I'd say OK Computer, Homogenic, and Being There are game changers for sure.
Ultimately, though, the best years ever for album releases were 1969 and 1986.
I'd say the best years ever for album releases were 1970 to 1979. :p
(I'm not sure what you see in 1986. I'd take 1987 on first glance. TTD and early Neneh Cherry, FTW!)
posted by mrgrimm at 11:47 AM on July 27, 2011
Mr. Grimm: Built To Spill on the most excellent mosh cam.
The Spiritualized set is also great.
posted by neuromodulator at 12:08 PM on July 27, 2011
The Spiritualized set is also great.
posted by neuromodulator at 12:08 PM on July 27, 2011
I will disagree with you there. I'd say OK Computer, Homogenic, and Being There are game changers for sure.
What far-reaching cultural phenomenon was triggered by any of those albums?
Coldplay.
posted by mrgrimm at 12:26 PM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
What far-reaching cultural phenomenon was triggered by any of those albums?
Coldplay.
posted by mrgrimm at 12:26 PM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
That's a very strong argument for 1986 but I will argue that most of those albums did not penetrate suburbia and FM Radio. Having grown up in suburbia I can tell you that the only thing on your list you would have heard on the radio and on MTV (unless you were staying up for 120 Minutes) is Peter Gabriel and Midnight Oil. Whereas in 1991...everything was on the radio and MTV and permeated through nearly every demographic. But, I would argue that 1991 could not have happened without your 1986 list.
posted by spicynuts at 12:38 PM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by spicynuts at 12:38 PM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
That's a very strong argument for 1986 but I will argue that most of those albums did not penetrate suburbia and FM Radio. Having grown up in suburbia I can tell you that the only thing on your list you would have heard on the radio and on MTV (unless you were staying up for 120 Minutes) is Peter Gabriel and Midnight Oil.
Um, I was in suburbia at the same time, and I definitely remember exposure to The Smiths, Run DMC, Metalica, Depeche Mode, Crowded House, REM, Talking Heads, XTC, and Beastie Boys off this list.
And Paul Simon's Graceland, which also came out that year and is not on The World Famous' list.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 1:36 PM on July 27, 2011
Um, I was in suburbia at the same time, and I definitely remember exposure to The Smiths, Run DMC, Metalica, Depeche Mode, Crowded House, REM, Talking Heads, XTC, and Beastie Boys off this list.
And Paul Simon's Graceland, which also came out that year and is not on The World Famous' list.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 1:36 PM on July 27, 2011
The World Famous: Still, though, I have to return to Run DMC and the Beastie Boys in 1986. They were more of a game changer than Nirvana, I think.
Depends on which game you're watching.
posted by herbplarfegan at 1:55 PM on July 27, 2011
Depends on which game you're watching.
posted by herbplarfegan at 1:55 PM on July 27, 2011
Well, the Beasties and Run DMC are important to many people who don't have any interest in grunge/indie rock, and vice versa. Hence.. different 'games.'
If, though, by
They were more of a game changer than Nirvana, I think.
, you meant in their respective styles of music (as in DMC/Beasties were more influential to their style than Nirvana was to rock), that makes some sense to me, but I wouldn't really know enough to compare the two, since, though I dig and respect the artists you mentioned, I didn't have much of a love for hip hop, so I haven't participation on both sides to compare.
If you meant in music overall, that's why I say it's different for different people-- today, Lady BlahGag is, like, totally really important and meaningful and real and stuff to a staggering amount of people, but my radar is fixed on an entirely different section of the sky. That's what I mean.
posted by herbplarfegan at 2:23 PM on July 27, 2011
If, though, by
They were more of a game changer than Nirvana, I think.
, you meant in their respective styles of music (as in DMC/Beasties were more influential to their style than Nirvana was to rock), that makes some sense to me, but I wouldn't really know enough to compare the two, since, though I dig and respect the artists you mentioned, I didn't have much of a love for hip hop, so I haven't participation on both sides to compare.
If you meant in music overall, that's why I say it's different for different people-- today, Lady BlahGag is, like, totally really important and meaningful and real and stuff to a staggering amount of people, but my radar is fixed on an entirely different section of the sky. That's what I mean.
posted by herbplarfegan at 2:23 PM on July 27, 2011
I think you could make a case that Ok Computer was a gamechanger in melding rock and electronic music. Certainly it wasn't the first time anyone tried that, but it was really the first big mainstream album to do that unless you count the Spawn soundtrack.
The only other album I can think of off the top of my head that made this breakthrough was DJ Shadow's Endtroducing, which came at it from the opposite direction (a dj using live instruments and samples vs. a rock band using loops and drum tracks). Interestingly, that album was released at the end of '96. had to look that up, making me feel silly when I remembered the track 'Why Hip Hop Sucks In '96"
posted by mannequito at 2:49 PM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
The only other album I can think of off the top of my head that made this breakthrough was DJ Shadow's Endtroducing, which came at it from the opposite direction (a dj using live instruments and samples vs. a rock band using loops and drum tracks). Interestingly, that album was released at the end of '96. had to look that up, making me feel silly when I remembered the track 'Why Hip Hop Sucks In '96"
posted by mannequito at 2:49 PM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
Ah actually just looked it up - the Spawn soundtrack came out after those two albums.
Endtroducing - released November 96
Ok Computer - released June 97
Spawn - released July 97
posted by mannequito at 2:51 PM on July 27, 2011
Endtroducing - released November 96
Ok Computer - released June 97
Spawn - released July 97
posted by mannequito at 2:51 PM on July 27, 2011
And Paul Simon's Graceland, which also came out that year and is not on The World Famous' list.
I can't believe I forgot to put that on the list. Yeah, that's one of the greats.
I should just back away slowly, eyeing everyone suspiciously at this point.
Fight For Your Right and Walk This Way were the flashpoint for the mainstream acceptance of and enthusiasm for rap and hip hop as a staple of top 40 pop music
Novelty songs made popular mostly because of white rappers, and rock-rap crossover marketing. I think you're projecting your experience. I might as well say that Rapper's Delight and White Lines did the same thing, especially depending on which country you're talking about.
The modern mainstream (defined as "commercially popular") acceptance and popularity of hip hop or rap in the US is mostly due to:
* MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This
* Vanilla Ice - Ice, Ice Baby
Those were (among) the first songs to break the pop top 10.
On preview, Endtroducing was certainly a game changer imo, and yet I'm certain several people will argue he was derivative of some other person, etc.
posted by mrgrimm at 3:07 PM on July 27, 2011
I can't believe I forgot to put that on the list. Yeah, that's one of the greats.
I should just back away slowly, eyeing everyone suspiciously at this point.
Fight For Your Right and Walk This Way were the flashpoint for the mainstream acceptance of and enthusiasm for rap and hip hop as a staple of top 40 pop music
Novelty songs made popular mostly because of white rappers, and rock-rap crossover marketing. I think you're projecting your experience. I might as well say that Rapper's Delight and White Lines did the same thing, especially depending on which country you're talking about.
The modern mainstream (defined as "commercially popular") acceptance and popularity of hip hop or rap in the US is mostly due to:
* MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This
* Vanilla Ice - Ice, Ice Baby
Those were (among) the first songs to break the pop top 10.
On preview, Endtroducing was certainly a game changer imo, and yet I'm certain several people will argue he was derivative of some other person, etc.
posted by mrgrimm at 3:07 PM on July 27, 2011
Definitely. Again, just off the top of my head, DJ Spooky comes to mind, and he released his first album in April 96.
posted by mannequito at 3:11 PM on July 27, 2011
posted by mannequito at 3:11 PM on July 27, 2011
Yeah, essentially we're saying the same thing - both Nevermind and Ok Computer took elements that had existed for years and molded them into something that the mainstream just ate up, opening the floodgates for tons of other bands.
It seems like you can judge the results by what's popular about 10 years later, which makes sense because the people who are going to be most affected by a new musical revolution are teenagers.
Approx. 10 years after Nevermind came out we had the garage/indie/analog revival (Strokes, White Stripes etc.) And nowadays virtually all the popular new rock music is leaning heavily on drum machines, keyboards and samples (if I was hip and with it I'd toss out some names here, but I've mostly been listening to experimental hip hop and bluegrass lately).
posted by mannequito at 3:41 PM on July 27, 2011
It seems like you can judge the results by what's popular about 10 years later, which makes sense because the people who are going to be most affected by a new musical revolution are teenagers.
Approx. 10 years after Nevermind came out we had the garage/indie/analog revival (Strokes, White Stripes etc.) And nowadays virtually all the popular new rock music is leaning heavily on drum machines, keyboards and samples (if I was hip and with it I'd toss out some names here, but I've mostly been listening to experimental hip hop and bluegrass lately).
posted by mannequito at 3:41 PM on July 27, 2011
Yeah, rap and bleep bloop stuff seems a lot more popular than pure guitar driven rock, though Foo Fighters are still huge in Aus.
Approx. 10 years after Nevermind came out we had the garage/indie/analog revival (Strokes, White Stripes etc.) And nowadays virtually all the popular new rock music is leaning heavily on drum machines, keyboards and samples (if I was hip and with it I'd toss out some names here, but I've mostly been listening to experimental hip hop and bluegrass lately).
Yeah, its really hard to avoid that fake stuff.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:42 PM on July 27, 2011
Approx. 10 years after Nevermind came out we had the garage/indie/analog revival (Strokes, White Stripes etc.) And nowadays virtually all the popular new rock music is leaning heavily on drum machines, keyboards and samples (if I was hip and with it I'd toss out some names here, but I've mostly been listening to experimental hip hop and bluegrass lately).
Yeah, its really hard to avoid that fake stuff.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:42 PM on July 27, 2011
Really? Fight For Your Right To Party and Walk This Way didn't make it to the suburbs where you lived?
You picked two giant hits out of your list. The majority of bands on your list, while among my favorites, were in zero way penetrated into heavy rotation on either MTV or radio. For example:
Sonic Youth, This Mortal Coil, Throwing Muses, Cocteau Twins, Killing Joke, Front Line Assembly, BIG BLACK FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Going down to the mall and hitting Book And Record or Camelot or the local chain record store, NONE of those albums would be on display or even available. They certainly were not at Kmart. In 1986 indie labels like 4AD meant nothing to the average consumer of music and were not even on most kids' radar. Yeah, the 3 black clad or spike haired kids in your art class had all that shit, but they went into NYC to get them. I mean, unless you were in NYC, Chicago or Detroit, do you think the manager of your mall record store ever heard of Alternative Tentacles, TVT, Shimmy Disc, Nettwerk, or Wax Trax?
By contrast, in 1991, Tower Records carried ALL that shit, displayed it prominently, and had rising chain competitors like Virgin and HMV penetrating malls and suburbia and carrying everything you saw on MTV in regular rotation and on 120 Minutes. Bands were quickly moving off Sub Pop and getting either major label deals (regardless of what it said on the actual label) or at minimum major distribution deals. You could easily find The Pixies next to Guns N Roses and Ministry next to Motley Crue.
Yeah, Beastie Boys and Run DMC hit the culture huge, but they needed whiteness to get the white, corporate FM giants to even consider playing them. Did RunDMC playing with Aerosmith on MTV get ChuckD or NWA on the radio? No. But by 1991 you could hear real hip hop alongside rock, shoe-gazer, popified punk and industrial on the radio.
I guess what I'm saying is, your list is awesome from a music lovers perspective, but ask most adults today who were teens in 86 who This Mortal Coil or Big Black is, they would have no idea. Ask them who Blur, Primus and The KLF are...yeah.
Actually, I don't know why I'm arguing this at all because I don't believe in the whole 'music was better in x year' argument. I've been in fucking love with music since the day my cousin gave me my first KISS album at 7 years old and I've never stopped having a year where I bought 5 to 6 albums that just blew me away.
posted by spicynuts at 11:23 PM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
You picked two giant hits out of your list. The majority of bands on your list, while among my favorites, were in zero way penetrated into heavy rotation on either MTV or radio. For example:
Sonic Youth, This Mortal Coil, Throwing Muses, Cocteau Twins, Killing Joke, Front Line Assembly, BIG BLACK FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Going down to the mall and hitting Book And Record or Camelot or the local chain record store, NONE of those albums would be on display or even available. They certainly were not at Kmart. In 1986 indie labels like 4AD meant nothing to the average consumer of music and were not even on most kids' radar. Yeah, the 3 black clad or spike haired kids in your art class had all that shit, but they went into NYC to get them. I mean, unless you were in NYC, Chicago or Detroit, do you think the manager of your mall record store ever heard of Alternative Tentacles, TVT, Shimmy Disc, Nettwerk, or Wax Trax?
By contrast, in 1991, Tower Records carried ALL that shit, displayed it prominently, and had rising chain competitors like Virgin and HMV penetrating malls and suburbia and carrying everything you saw on MTV in regular rotation and on 120 Minutes. Bands were quickly moving off Sub Pop and getting either major label deals (regardless of what it said on the actual label) or at minimum major distribution deals. You could easily find The Pixies next to Guns N Roses and Ministry next to Motley Crue.
Yeah, Beastie Boys and Run DMC hit the culture huge, but they needed whiteness to get the white, corporate FM giants to even consider playing them. Did RunDMC playing with Aerosmith on MTV get ChuckD or NWA on the radio? No. But by 1991 you could hear real hip hop alongside rock, shoe-gazer, popified punk and industrial on the radio.
I guess what I'm saying is, your list is awesome from a music lovers perspective, but ask most adults today who were teens in 86 who This Mortal Coil or Big Black is, they would have no idea. Ask them who Blur, Primus and The KLF are...yeah.
Actually, I don't know why I'm arguing this at all because I don't believe in the whole 'music was better in x year' argument. I've been in fucking love with music since the day my cousin gave me my first KISS album at 7 years old and I've never stopped having a year where I bought 5 to 6 albums that just blew me away.
posted by spicynuts at 11:23 PM on July 27, 2011 [1 favorite]
I'll put 1997 again 1991 any day:
This tells me more about the sort of music you like, than anything else. Your lists are pretty much delineated by genre. 1997 has more electronic, shoegazer, britpop.
posted by rodgerd at 12:59 AM on July 28, 2011 [1 favorite]
This tells me more about the sort of music you like, than anything else. Your lists are pretty much delineated by genre. 1997 has more electronic, shoegazer, britpop.
posted by rodgerd at 12:59 AM on July 28, 2011 [1 favorite]
I love R.E.M., but Out of Time has to be one of their worst albums
I'll stand up for Out of Time, of only because I love Texarkana so darn much - that alone males the album worthwhile.
posted by naoko at 8:29 AM on July 28, 2011
I'll stand up for Out of Time, of only because I love Texarkana so darn much - that alone males the album worthwhile.
posted by naoko at 8:29 AM on July 28, 2011
Amanda Palmer's cover of Polly was floating around the Twitters a week or two ago, and I forgot to look it up (since I have the Twitters on my phone, and anything non-text-or-picture based doesn't go so well). So for that reason alone, I thank you for this post. I likes it. Will have to check out the rest later.
posted by antifuse at 12:53 PM on July 28, 2011
posted by antifuse at 12:53 PM on July 28, 2011
And may I just say, that TOTALLY sounds like what I'd expect Neil Gaiman's wife to produce as a cover of that song.
posted by antifuse at 12:54 PM on July 28, 2011
posted by antifuse at 12:54 PM on July 28, 2011
SPIN posted my comic strip online...
(I know, self link! Forgive me.)
posted by JBennett at 1:25 PM on July 28, 2011 [4 favorites]
(I know, self link! Forgive me.)
posted by JBennett at 1:25 PM on July 28, 2011 [4 favorites]
kudos, JBennett. flawless.
posted by herbplarfegan at 1:26 PM on July 29, 2011
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