Raising the Flag
June 11, 2013 11:35 AM Subscribe
If you only see one Black Flag reunion this year, make it Flag.
posted by cazoo at 11:53 AM on June 11, 2013
posted by cazoo at 11:53 AM on June 11, 2013
The art looks like stuff in the vein of EC Comics. Nice.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:55 AM on June 11, 2013
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:55 AM on June 11, 2013
These are great. I have an old stack of flyers (Hüsker Dü, Replacements, Soul Asylum) from the 80's that I recently found in the basement, really brings you back to that time. While I love the new collectible screenprinted $20 gig poster revival that's going on, there was something really visceral about the crappy old handwritten Xerox flyer.
posted by misterpatrick at 11:56 AM on June 11, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by misterpatrick at 11:56 AM on June 11, 2013 [5 favorites]
Pettibon is fantastic. Both his punk flier stuff and his current high-art stuff is terrific, with a terrifying bead on curdled 60s violence.
posted by ThatFuzzyBastard at 12:32 PM on June 11, 2013
posted by ThatFuzzyBastard at 12:32 PM on June 11, 2013
THIS IS AWESOME!
I think I might have mentioned it before, but someone (Louis CK, I think?) once described the dude on the lower left corner of Action Comics #1 as the perfect illustration of the modern condition.
For me it's the guy on Ray Pettibon's sleeve for the Nervous Breakdown EP. The one without the chair.
He's just like, "You've got a chair? Bring it. I don't even care anymore."
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 12:34 PM on June 11, 2013 [2 favorites]
I think I might have mentioned it before, but someone (Louis CK, I think?) once described the dude on the lower left corner of Action Comics #1 as the perfect illustration of the modern condition.
For me it's the guy on Ray Pettibon's sleeve for the Nervous Breakdown EP. The one without the chair.
He's just like, "You've got a chair? Bring it. I don't even care anymore."
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 12:34 PM on June 11, 2013 [2 favorites]
As a semi-related link that I don't know where else to put, unless I already missed a thread about it: some info on the current competing [Black] Flag tours.
posted by inigo2 at 12:43 PM on June 11, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by inigo2 at 12:43 PM on June 11, 2013 [2 favorites]
I don't see this one, but I suppose it is just a variant.
posted by Glomar response at 1:08 PM on June 11, 2013
posted by Glomar response at 1:08 PM on June 11, 2013
I am positively inclined towards Pettibone. The first time I saw his work in a gallery I did not connect him to his punk rock work, I just thought this more clever than average artist had stolen his style.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:42 PM on June 11, 2013
posted by From Bklyn at 1:42 PM on June 11, 2013
Nice post - thanks. There was a Pettibon piece I remember from years ago - some guy in a crowd yelling at (I think) Elvis, a reference to something awful he did to a groupie. Anyone got a link to that? I'd like to see it again.
posted by davebush at 2:43 PM on June 11, 2013
posted by davebush at 2:43 PM on June 11, 2013
These are great, but part (most?) of the fun I'm having is in remembering all those other bands. Social Unrest, Saccharine Trust, et al et al. Even Tom Troccoli's Dog!
Boy, the way Glenn Miller played...
posted by scratch at 2:47 PM on June 11, 2013
Boy, the way Glenn Miller played...
posted by scratch at 2:47 PM on June 11, 2013
davebush, that was in the liner notes to Double Nickels on the Dime.
posted by pxe2000 at 3:48 PM on June 11, 2013
posted by pxe2000 at 3:48 PM on June 11, 2013
How many of these are fliers Pettibon designed, and how many are just fliers his Brother made, by stealing his artwork, slapping some text on there, and maybe even ruining it/never giving it back?
'cause I heard Raymond started to get a little pissed off about that. Like, you help out a little with the logo, perhaps a record cover and then, "Bam!" everything is free game.
I've also read that Pettibon had closets full of his zines, that he would periodically destroy, because - fuck man, it takes up space! I took out a book from the library, that was basically 1,000 pages of copies of the, "best" pages of these zines. I gave it back (begrudgingly), telling them that this book is fragile, falling apart and important. Never saw it in circulation, again. My ladyfriend at the time, who worked at a bookstore looked up how much it would cost to get my own copy. $700. Well, fuck me.
posted by alex_skazat at 5:05 PM on June 11, 2013 [1 favorite]
'cause I heard Raymond started to get a little pissed off about that. Like, you help out a little with the logo, perhaps a record cover and then, "Bam!" everything is free game.
I've also read that Pettibon had closets full of his zines, that he would periodically destroy, because - fuck man, it takes up space! I took out a book from the library, that was basically 1,000 pages of copies of the, "best" pages of these zines. I gave it back (begrudgingly), telling them that this book is fragile, falling apart and important. Never saw it in circulation, again. My ladyfriend at the time, who worked at a bookstore looked up how much it would cost to get my own copy. $700. Well, fuck me.
posted by alex_skazat at 5:05 PM on June 11, 2013 [1 favorite]
pxe2000 - Damn, thanks. I pulled the CD off the shelf and sure enough, there it is. I'd completely forgotten that's where I saw it.
posted by davebush at 5:10 PM on June 11, 2013
posted by davebush at 5:10 PM on June 11, 2013
Yeah, "designed" is the wrong word. Pettibon def. did these illustrations, but a whole lot of them are just his zines, photocopied with some text. I doubt he cared at the time (not to speak for him), but there's still stories where Greg would just take the originals and start cutting and pasting shit. That guy can be a little stupid with his actions.
Like, "Hey let's have a reunion, using a drum machine and Mike Vallely on vocals! What could possibly go wrong?!" Incredible guitarist, songwriter, entrepreneur even, but, DRRRRR!
posted by alex_skazat at 5:11 PM on June 11, 2013
Like, "Hey let's have a reunion, using a drum machine and Mike Vallely on vocals! What could possibly go wrong?!" Incredible guitarist, songwriter, entrepreneur even, but, DRRRRR!
posted by alex_skazat at 5:11 PM on June 11, 2013
And if anyone gets a copy of those zines or that book I'm talking about, it's totally worth it. They're pretty incredible. Illustrations are great, but the guy knows how to write, and seeing the nascence of all his ongoing themes: trains, surfing, baseball, etc, is pretty fucking cool.
posted by alex_skazat at 5:13 PM on June 11, 2013
posted by alex_skazat at 5:13 PM on June 11, 2013
I've been meaning to make an FPP about this: punkflyer.com
Warning: If you have ever owned even one flyer but threw it away or lost it, don't look at what they're sell for in the store.
posted by Room 641-A at 5:23 PM on June 11, 2013
Warning: If you have ever owned even one flyer but threw it away or lost it, don't look at what they're sell for in the store.
posted by Room 641-A at 5:23 PM on June 11, 2013
This is great. The guy is like the Bizarro Jack Chick.
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:59 PM on June 11, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:59 PM on June 11, 2013 [1 favorite]
The Art of Punk: Watch great new doc on Black Flag and Raymond Pettibon’s iconic collaboration
posted by homunculus at 8:22 PM on June 11, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by homunculus at 8:22 PM on June 11, 2013 [2 favorites]
I remember seeing that "flying erection guy" poster outside a Dead Kennedy's show in late 1981 on a telephone pole. Striking art, I thought, but didn't think to take it along. Save a cheap punk rock flyer? Yeah right.
posted by telstar at 8:59 PM on June 11, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by telstar at 8:59 PM on June 11, 2013 [1 favorite]
Pettibon is a great artist.. genius.. savant.. and pretty out there..
posted by snaparapans at 10:31 PM on June 11, 2013
posted by snaparapans at 10:31 PM on June 11, 2013
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