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“I don’t mind causing offence when I intend to, but I don’t like causing it accidentally” Interview with comedian Stewart Lee
This sounds great. Is there a comprehensive playlist of the ukip routines somewhere?
posted by tychotesla at 12:49 PM on December 3, 2014
posted by tychotesla at 12:49 PM on December 3, 2014
"A gentleman is never unintentionally rude," as Wilde said.
posted by Sebmojo at 12:54 PM on December 3, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by Sebmojo at 12:54 PM on December 3, 2014 [4 favorites]
And of course, Political Correctness Gone Mad.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:05 PM on December 3, 2014 [10 favorites]
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:05 PM on December 3, 2014 [10 favorites]
Just picked up tickets to see him again next March. I shall be taking him 30-40 packets of crisps obviously.
posted by longbaugh at 1:14 PM on December 3, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by longbaugh at 1:14 PM on December 3, 2014 [2 favorites]
Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle is on . . . . certain streaming resources, for those of us across the ocean.
posted by Think_Long at 1:28 PM on December 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Think_Long at 1:28 PM on December 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
Wow, both the UKIPs routine and especially the Political Correctness Gone Mad one is fantastic. I need to see more of this guy.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 2:41 PM on December 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 2:41 PM on December 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
The ending of the Political Correctness one, with the chiseling, reminded me a bit of Bill Hicks at his best, both the burning, burning anger and the pacing and pauses.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 2:41 PM on December 3, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 2:41 PM on December 3, 2014 [3 favorites]
I was reminded of his Top Gear bit when I read this recently.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:01 PM on December 3, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:01 PM on December 3, 2014 [4 favorites]
I need to see more of this guy
You need this brilliant FPP by running order squabble fest
posted by billiebee at 3:10 PM on December 3, 2014 [4 favorites]
You need this brilliant FPP by running order squabble fest
posted by billiebee at 3:10 PM on December 3, 2014 [4 favorites]
Wow, the Top Gear bit makes me think even more of Bill Hicks. He's very good at turning the joke around and hitting the audience.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 3:19 PM on December 3, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 3:19 PM on December 3, 2014 [2 favorites]
Lee has his own thoughts on Bill Hicks.
posted by aedison at 3:24 PM on December 3, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by aedison at 3:24 PM on December 3, 2014 [3 favorites]
billiebee: "You need this brilliant FPP by running order squabble fest"
If only those links were not all dead. I'd love to see what he thinks of Richard Dawkins.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 9:24 PM on December 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
If only those links were not all dead. I'd love to see what he thinks of Richard Dawkins.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 9:24 PM on December 3, 2014 [1 favorite]
> If only those links were not all dead. I'd love to see what he thinks of Richard Dawkins.
I had exactly that thought! But Googling turned up this somewhat underwhelming clip, so I hope there's more to it than just that.
posted by EXISTENZ IS PAUSED at 10:41 PM on December 3, 2014
I had exactly that thought! But Googling turned up this somewhat underwhelming clip, so I hope there's more to it than just that.
posted by EXISTENZ IS PAUSED at 10:41 PM on December 3, 2014
I went to see Mark Thomas's excellent new show (Cuckooed) here in London last night. I particularly liked his summing-up of UKIP as "The Tory Party at closing time".
posted by Paul Slade at 1:23 AM on December 4, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by Paul Slade at 1:23 AM on December 4, 2014 [4 favorites]
A lot of dead links, but this clip (ostensibly) about Caffe Nero is a brilliant piece of anti-humor and meta-humor.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 1:25 AM on December 4, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 1:25 AM on December 4, 2014 [2 favorites]
The whole Paul Nuttall/Ukips/"Bloody beaker-folk, coming over here with their beakers" routine had my crying with laughter when I saw him live. Cannot wait to see him again in Feb.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 2:34 AM on December 4, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by EndsOfInvention at 2:34 AM on December 4, 2014 [3 favorites]
Another one of my favourites - this telephone conversation initially about "funny" place names like "Crapstone" and "Shitterton" which rambles on for a bit and then segues into a meta-humour reference about fake phone conversations by stand-ups.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 2:44 AM on December 4, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by EndsOfInvention at 2:44 AM on December 4, 2014 [2 favorites]
Excellent post, excellent interview, and I would recommend learning the Nutalls and the Ukips routine to be quoted by anyone to whom this happens.
posted by glasseyes at 4:34 AM on December 4, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by glasseyes at 4:34 AM on December 4, 2014 [1 favorite]
His breakdown over intellectual property theft is pretty great.
posted by billiebee at 5:54 AM on December 4, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by billiebee at 5:54 AM on December 4, 2014 [3 favorites]
Another one of my favourites - this telephone conversation initially about "funny" place names like "Crapstone" and "Shitterton" which rambles on for a bit and then segues into a meta-humour reference about fake phone conversations by stand-ups.
Beanplating a tiny moment in his act here, but my favorite part of that is in his fake phone conversation with a customer for "Shitterton Ton of Shit", where he's explaining that he only sells shit in one-ton units and he will only sell a single ton and no more than a single ton to a customer who wants three, and then he pauses... and pauses... and pauses... for 15 seconds of silence, like he's listening to the customer. And the silence is long enough that every single person watching knows that the next thing the customer would propose in this fake conversation is that they would just buy one ton at a time on three different occasions, and you're expecting Lee to spell out that unheard-but-obvious bit of the conversation really blatantly, like just restating it as a question or something so the audience can "keep up," because that's what most performers would do. Everyone feels ten steps ahead of the performer and the pause has gone on really weirdly long and so their expectations are pretty low for the next line. And then he just says "...well I'll know it's you." and the audience loses it. It's such a great little joke, where the payoff is that unexpectedly, the performer respected the audience's intelligence. And they enjoy it even more because it was like this completely silent back-and-forth between audience and performer, it's such a neat little subtle bait-and-switch. I mean, it's a just this little touch in the middle of a string of other funny stuff, but it's super clever to toy with the audience's assumptions of the performer's assumptions of their intelligence like that.
posted by jason_steakums at 8:47 PM on December 4, 2014 [13 favorites]
Beanplating a tiny moment in his act here, but my favorite part of that is in his fake phone conversation with a customer for "Shitterton Ton of Shit", where he's explaining that he only sells shit in one-ton units and he will only sell a single ton and no more than a single ton to a customer who wants three, and then he pauses... and pauses... and pauses... for 15 seconds of silence, like he's listening to the customer. And the silence is long enough that every single person watching knows that the next thing the customer would propose in this fake conversation is that they would just buy one ton at a time on three different occasions, and you're expecting Lee to spell out that unheard-but-obvious bit of the conversation really blatantly, like just restating it as a question or something so the audience can "keep up," because that's what most performers would do. Everyone feels ten steps ahead of the performer and the pause has gone on really weirdly long and so their expectations are pretty low for the next line. And then he just says "...well I'll know it's you." and the audience loses it. It's such a great little joke, where the payoff is that unexpectedly, the performer respected the audience's intelligence. And they enjoy it even more because it was like this completely silent back-and-forth between audience and performer, it's such a neat little subtle bait-and-switch. I mean, it's a just this little touch in the middle of a string of other funny stuff, but it's super clever to toy with the audience's assumptions of the performer's assumptions of their intelligence like that.
posted by jason_steakums at 8:47 PM on December 4, 2014 [13 favorites]
I think people want to be reassured that the UKIPs are the baddies as Stew is selling out venues months in advance.
posted by asok at 11:06 AM on December 5, 2014
posted by asok at 11:06 AM on December 5, 2014
It's not that UKIP are "the baddies", it's that their public statements are a rich source of nonsense, which some comedians enjoy mocking. If anyone deserves a good mocking its UKIP.
posted by sneebler at 7:46 PM on December 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by sneebler at 7:46 PM on December 6, 2014 [1 favorite]
Case in point:
posted by EndsOfInvention at 2:08 PM on December 7, 2014
The Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, has blamed his late arrival at an event on immigration. He was due to appear at a “meet the leader” drinks reception as Ukip prepared to host its first Welsh conference. But he was running more than two hours late and failed to show.[Guardian]
“It took me six hours and 15 minutes in the car to get here. It should have taken three and a half to four,” he later said. “That has nothing to do with professionalism. What is does have to do with is a country in which the population is going through the roof, chiefly because of open-door immigration, and the fact the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 2:08 PM on December 7, 2014
A Ukip candidate has resigned for describing gay people as “fucking disgusting old poofters” and referring to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, just hours after Ukip defended him saying he had been on sedatives at the time.[Guardian]
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“This was a phone call some time ago while he was on sedatives by his own account, not really speaking [or] thinking rationally. He was on prescription sedatives after suffering an injury,” O’Flynn said.
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In a separate controversy also reported by the Mail on Sunday, it emerged that Ukip has sent a survey to supporters asking how close they feel to different ethnic groups on a scale of one to 10, with categories including “blacks”, “Muslims” and “eastern Europeans”. Those completing the survey were eligible to win prizes including cash and a Ukip golf umbrella.
Reminds me of the Flight Of The Conchords song with the line "she's so hot she's making me sexist!" - "I'm so ill it's making me racist".
posted by EndsOfInvention at 1:32 AM on December 15, 2014
"In sedatives, veritas"
All politicians should be forced to answer questions whilst on mild barbituates.
posted by longbaugh at 4:46 AM on December 15, 2014
All politicians should be forced to answer questions whilst on mild barbituates.
posted by longbaugh at 4:46 AM on December 15, 2014
@petefrasermusic: The pretence is over; support for ukip is support for racism. There's no grey area any more. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11303133/Nigel-Farage-defends-use-of-word-chinky.htmlSome choice quotes there:
"I am a bit sad because Kerry Smith is a rough diamond, he's a council-house boy from the East End of London, left school early and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do," Mr Farage said.Firstly, I thought the excuse was that he only said that because he was on sedatives, so are you saying no, he's just racist like "a lot of people from the East End of London", or are you saying a lot of people from the East End of London are walking around on sedatives accidentally being racist?
Challenged on Mr Smith's use of the word "Chinky", Mr Farage said: "If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you're going for?"
Secondly, I'd just say "I'm going out for a Chinese", you racist fuckhead.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 7:05 AM on December 19, 2014 [2 favorites]
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