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July 8, 2015 3:37 PM   Subscribe

 
It's like fly-fishing, but with a butt.

Just, beautiful.
posted by dudemanlives at 4:01 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


Man, how does GQ.com not use smart quotes?
posted by Joseph Gurl at 4:24 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


So can we stop blaming file-sharers and start blaming pole-dancers, or is this a RESULT of file-sharing? And does this cross over into other media? (it would explain some scenes in Game of Thrones)
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:25 PM on July 8, 2015


So can we stop blaming file-sharers and start blaming pole-dancers, or is this a RESULT of file-sharing?

Did you misread the "Run" in the title as "Ruin"?
posted by sideshow at 4:30 PM on July 8, 2015


Well whoever's running it apparently is ruining it so maybe there's some logic there anyway.
posted by Wolfdog at 4:33 PM on July 8, 2015


I am not casting aspersions or making cultural judgments here. You guys are great, really, and I'm sure those twerks feel real when you're doing them. But it is not possible to glean the true meaning of the twerk except in the strip clubs in Atlanta.

A new low for humanity: the hipster of strip clubs.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 4:38 PM on July 8, 2015 [13 favorites]


I usually don't like the kind of razzle dazzle writing of big pieces in men's magazines, but this article is really good.

There is a lot in the piece that intrigued me. Little Magic's words about being weary of street life were surprising.

I think this captures the unsexiness of strip clubs with uncanny precision:

all twerking reverts to a common form: You have a stripper, or several, standing naked. Before the stripper(s), there is the customer, a man, often in a hooded sweatshirt. Usually, if you look around, you'll find the man's friends at a nearby table, checking their phones. And while fly-fishing with her derriere, as the man stands and nihilistically sheds wealth, the dancer is meant to look backward over her own ass at him. There's an overwhelming sense of the ritualistic here, divorced from lust or spontaneity, the way the taking of Communion is merely symbolic of the joy of Communing with God.
posted by jayder at 4:43 PM on July 8, 2015 [9 favorites]


It's a fascinating article in its own right--amazing how one single place has such influence.

Doubly fascinating in contrast with the couple threads the past two days about sexism, and how supremely un-self-aware the piece is about the women who do the actual work in the club. The men are foregrounded, and the women are props, sweeping up piles of dollar bills from the floor. There's a metaphor in there.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 4:43 PM on July 8, 2015 [5 favorites]


Oh, and this:

What BMF really was—more than a drug-trafficking concern or a hip-hop label—was the biggest socio-cultural thing to happen to Atlanta since, probably, Gone with the Wind. What BMF really was, was a rap song come to life. You know the world that's depicted in rap videos? The rapper at the wheel of a $300,000 car getting dry-humped by fourteen strippers driven into a kind of involuntary ecstasy simply by his presence? Watching reams of American currency being lit on fire or blown away into the streets while he just smokes a cigar and barely notices because he's somehow achieved a new consciousness of wealth in which there is no dollar figure large enough the loss of which would be of any emotional consequence? That was how BMF lived for real, and they liked to live that way in public, and the principal way to interface with that public was through the strip club.

I find that sort of thing fascinating.
posted by jayder at 4:45 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


feckless fecal fear mongering: "Doubly fascinating in contrast with the couple threads the past two days about sexism, and how supremely un-self-aware the piece is about the women who do the actual work in the club. The men are foregrounded, and the women are props, sweeping up piles of dollar bills from the floor. There's a metaphor in there."

I agree with you in general, although one fairly big chunk of the article is an actual interview with one of the women who work there, so I'm not sure that's entirely true.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 4:54 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


all twerking reverts to a common form: You have a stripper, or several, standing naked. Before the stripper(s), there is the customer, a man, often in a hooded sweatshirt. Usually, if you look around, you'll find the man's friends at a nearby table, checking their phones. And while fly-fishing with her derriere, as the man stands and nihilistically sheds wealth, the dancer is meant to look backward over her own ass at him. There's an overwhelming sense of the ritualistic here, divorced from lust or spontaneity, the way the taking of Communion is merely symbolic of the joy of Communing with God.

Now imagining a post-apocalyptic religion that is all about the Perceived Butt. It's pretty great!
posted by selfnoise at 4:54 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


Joakim, yeah, there is that part of the piece. I still think it's kind of glossing over the reality, though.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 5:12 PM on July 8, 2015


A new low for humanity: the hipster of strip clubs.

Just goes to show how far the music industry as fallen, instead of thinking next band name, I immediately thought 'strip club hipster would make an excellent sockpuppet account name.'
posted by pwnguin at 5:21 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


Stripster.
posted by box at 5:28 PM on July 8, 2015 [5 favorites]



Did you misread the "Run" in the title as "Ruin"?

*raises hand*

And I thought Wow, that's a power shift....
posted by potsmokinghippieoverlord at 5:32 PM on July 8, 2015


Stripster

Just 99 cents in the app store!
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:35 PM on July 8, 2015 [2 favorites]


The City of Atlanta hates rock clubs and has historically harassed them (example: at one point in the 80's, they tried to pass an ordinance requiring live music performers to be fingerprinted and photographed for every live performance), but these sleazy titty bars have always been a fixture.
posted by thelonius at 5:55 PM on July 8, 2015 [5 favorites]


Stripster

Oh that's going places. : )
posted by Beholder at 6:13 PM on July 8, 2015


Ugh, do people in NYC or LA have the same visceral reaction to bullshit written about their towns? Because, as an Atlantan, I hate this and I now hate the author by association.

suburban hood of Stone Mountain, Georgia

A majority Black suburb is not a "hood," you cretin.

Man. Atlanta. The I-75 and the I-85. The 20 and the 285. The roads to Alabama and to Macon.

Yep, Atlanta is literally just a collection of interstates, you dickbag.

The cancerous urban sprawl.

Suburban, you OTP troll.

The unremarkable skyscrapers in their copses at Buckhead, at Midtown.

How dare you badmouth the good name of the BoA Spaceship, the Westin Dildo Battery, the SunTrust Erector Set, the 191 Peachtree DoubleTwins, and the 1180 Peachtree Clam Thingy!

You save that hater shit for the AT&T Building.

And keep in mind that the Georgia-Pacific Building does not need your approval. The Georgia-Pacific Building loves itself.

And we had a Flatiron Building before NYC, so suck it.

The lack of any orienting landmark.

Clearly no one has stumbled back to the old GSU dorms using the aforementioned BoA glowy thing as invaluable landmark.

The front porches, the moisture-soaked clapboards, the darkened attic windows.

Don't get the vapors there, Scarlett.

The lone man, tall and stick-figured like a locust, loping across the intersection and into an urban meadow. The man sleeping in the black lung of the underpass

OOOOHHH, SOOOO GRITTY

The rich black people with their muscular metal cars.

I hope Kasim Reed punches you in the dick.

The rich white people with their slacks and loafers and frail ankles.

I hope Ted Turner produces a movie of you getting punched in the dick, directed by Tyler Perry.

The rich black people with their muscular metal cars. The rich white people with their slacks and loafers and frail ankles.

Repeating these lines again, because seriously what the fuck? You know actual people live in this city, not just caricatures you summon with a dog whistle?

Commuters released onto freeways at the pace of an IV drip by timed green lights at on-ramps.

Why do you hate transportation engineering? You know we have a street car now, right? You can walk to it from Magic City.

The sponge of the city absorbing country motherfuckers, absorbing people fleeing Chicago and Gary, Indiana, absorbing anyone with a hustle as Atlanta expands.

If by hustle you mean form an Arts non-profit, tech nerds sending better email via a mail... kimp?, and top-ranking healthcare professionals who kick ebola's ass? Also, we've have some of those transportation engineers you hate, you douche.

Atlanta is, especially, the de facto center of the hip-hop industry

OK, I'll give you that one.

Atlanta is balkanized—you might not be welcome in Bankhead if you're not from there.

Fun fact, Magic City is roughly equidistant from both Bankhead and a Whole Foods. The distance to both is literally less than the distance I bike to work everyday. What does this mean? I don't know, I'm too busy sorting out the papers to make it through the innumerable NPU checkpoints I have to pass through everyday.

What BMF really was—more than a drug-trafficking concern or a hip-hop label—was the biggest socio-cultural thing to happen to Atlanta since, probably, Gone with the Wind.

Yes, a two-bit drug smuggling operation that was so incompetent that it probably holds a records for quickest FBI wrap-up is the BIGGEST "socio-cultural thing" to happen in early Aughts Atlanta. Fuck you.

"You can't find a wife here," he said. "You can't find a wife in Atlanta at all. You can find a bitch to put on your arm."

I'm doing just fine! Maybe you're an asshole, like the author of this piece. You two should hang out more.

nocturnal zombie metropolis of Atlanta

ugh

But congrats to the author of this piece of dreck for saying that Magic City is more than a strip club, then consistently using pictures of the strippers throughout the article. Wouldn't want all those aspiring musicians you're writing about to be on camera, right? Not when there's tits.

Also, good job on reminding me that strip clubs are consistently filled with mute, low affect, boring ass dudes hiding their boners, and a couple guys who are trying SO HARD to convince everyone else that this is a good time.
posted by Panjandrum at 6:22 PM on July 8, 2015 [97 favorites]


Panjandrum: So so true..

Also, good job on reminding me that strip clubs are consistently filled with mute, low affect, boring ass dudes hiding their boners, and a couple guys who are trying SO HARD to convince everyone else that this is a good time.

Amazing comment.
posted by Benway at 6:33 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


Yes, a two-bit drug smuggling operation that was so incompetent that it probably holds a records for quickest FBI wrap-up is the BIGGEST "socio-cultural thing" to happen in early Aughts Atlanta. Fuck you.

Never heard of it before this piece, but the surprisingly detailed Wikipedia article about BMF suggests it was anything but two-bit, encompassing many states and lasting from the late 80s to the early or mid 2000s?
posted by jayder at 6:34 PM on July 8, 2015


I felt sorry for the car wash guy who works his hustle behind Chili's and so craved a taste of the high life that he fancied himself a producer and prided himself on introducing aspiring young rappers to the ... ha ha ... "rock star life."

Whatever you may hate as an Atlantan about that piece, the author did offer up some entertaining slices of life from Magic's milieu.
posted by jayder at 6:39 PM on July 8, 2015


Panjandrum, that comment was a thing of snarky beauty. Flagged as fantastic.

Westin Dildo Battery

new sockpuppet!
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 6:42 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


(People who want to read more about the BMF might enjoy Mara Shalhoup's book.)
posted by box at 6:59 PM on July 8, 2015 [3 favorites]


Mefi meetup, Atlantans?
posted by a hat out of hell at 7:02 PM on July 8, 2015 [3 favorites]


>A new low for humanity: the hipster of strip clubs.

A low, certainly, but not that new. Comdex was held in Vegas from 1979 to 2003.
posted by Devonian at 7:02 PM on July 8, 2015


Aimee has a savings account. She carries a book with her at all times called Think and Grow Rich, by Napoleon Hill. She tells me she's entrepreneurial. The many moments of degradation are made more tolerable because she’s telling herself a different story about them. "I'm not just picking up singles off the floor. You think I'm just picking up singles off the floor when there's real money out there?"
posted by the hot hot side of randy at 7:37 PM on July 8, 2015


I was going to quote that incredibly purple paragraph, but Panjandrum beat me to it. It reads like the sort of movie pitch that a studio may end up being interested in, but they're damn well going to make sure that they get someone else to write the screenplay.
posted by Halloween Jack at 7:46 PM on July 8, 2015 [2 favorites]


suggests it was anything but two-bit

Eh, as soon as they got big enough to get noticed they started treating Goodfellas like an instruction manual instead of a cautionary tale, and got shut down embarrassingly hard.

But seconding Mara Shaloup's book. I, and many others, were hooked to the series she did in Creative Loafing when they were coming out. In fact, I'm going to go ahead and declare Mara Shaloup's Creative Loafing articles about the BMF the biggest socio-cultural thing to happen in Atlanta at that time.
posted by Panjandrum at 7:52 PM on July 8, 2015 [3 favorites]


Eh, as soon as they got big enough to get noticed they started treating Goodfellas like an instruction manual instead of a cautionary tale, and got shut down embarrassingly hard.

shorter version: "ur favorite organized crime syndicate sucks"
posted by jayder at 8:00 PM on July 8, 2015 [4 favorites]


Cannot help but wonder at how much of a better article this would have been if written for The Bitter Southerner rather than GQ. I know Chuck digs Southern hip hop.

Living in Atlanta, I had to suppress a lot of eye rolling to get through the more flowery bits, as Panjadrum pointed out. Dude is worshiping myth here pretty goddamn hard, but I found myself enjoying a lot of it in spite of myself. Maybe just seeing an outsider falling all over himself at how impressed he was at the whole scene.

Also: I'm disappointed a quick search turns up nothing on Rambo So Weird. I've gotta hear what that guy's all about.
posted by Maaik at 8:03 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


There are some vivid quotes:

"They don't just get naked here, they get asshole-naked."

Most of the strip clubs I have been to didn't have a half of the human interest suggested in this story.
posted by Dip Flash at 8:13 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


I always saw the BOA building as a giant, glowing cigarette at night, and I definitely used it as a homing beacon on many drunk and stumbly occasions.

Atlanta is balkanized—you might not be welcome in Bankhead if you're not from there.

Atlanta, like every other city and one might argue the world at large, is divided into areas with differing levels of affluence. I've been in Bankhead at all hours of the day and night and lived to tell the story, not that there was every much of one to tell. It's a neighborhood, inhabited by people. Decent, predominately low-income African-American people; and yeah some of them are assholes, but assholes are eveywhere. Don't believe everything you hear in rap songs.
posted by dudemanlives at 8:34 PM on July 8, 2015 [4 favorites]


Atlanta mefites: how many of you thought this was going to be a piece about the Clermont Lounge and were disappointed?
posted by dis_integration at 9:24 PM on July 8, 2015 [4 favorites]


I'm disappointed that the Clermont lounge didn't even rate a mention, although this writer probably didn't do any research about other Atlanta strip clubs, just the one he was assigned to.
posted by BYiro at 11:25 PM on July 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


I don't know about that. I mean, I have definitely heard Magic City mentioned in LOTS of songs by Killer Mike, T.I., Bunn B...really any Atlanta rapper you care to name. The Clermont Lounge--fond as I am for the place--is not where it's happening. I mean, yeah, maybe Robert DeNiro shows up there while he's in town, but this particular article is about hip hop. Sorry your fav strip club doesn't merit a mention, but it just doesn't.
posted by Maaik at 4:24 AM on July 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


Stripster

Stripstr, surely. Keep up with the times, people.
posted by chavenet at 4:39 AM on July 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


Sorry your fav strip club doesn't merit a mention, but it just doesn't.

It's OK. I was just trying to go full ATL stripstr.
posted by dis_integration at 5:45 AM on July 9, 2015


Well then, let's have our meetup at Pin Ups in Decatur!
posted by Maaik at 6:05 AM on July 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


I would like to high-five my fellow Atlantans for all their comments in here, but only Panjadrum gets a beer.
posted by Kitteh at 6:14 AM on July 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


In Creative Loafing, Rodney Carmichael is not terribly impressed. Though I am interested to see the documentary version of this story, directed as it is by the woman who did Queen of Versailles.
posted by Maaik at 6:36 AM on July 9, 2015


"They don't just get naked here, they get asshole-naked."

Most of the strip clubs I have been to didn't have a half of the human interest suggested in this story.


At some point, don't you cross the line from dancing to impromptu gynecological exam?
posted by emjaybee at 7:00 AM on July 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


I guess I will read TFA at some point, but honestly, the commentary here dismantling it is probably better than the article itself. We used to get GQ at a publication I worked at and pass it around as if it were an example of something to aspire to in our writing, and eventually I started passing on it entirely, both because I didn't have time and because so much of the writing was just as glib and full of holes and purple prose as the writing anywhere else, plus an extra helping of men's myth-making. Awesome!
posted by limeonaire at 11:53 AM on July 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


The Vice video series Noisey Atlanta: Welcome to the Trap does a pretty good job covering some of the same ground as this article.
posted by exogenous at 12:42 PM on July 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


I was going to post that link as well.
posted by gucci mane at 8:59 PM on July 9, 2015


How dare you badmouth the good name of the BoA Spaceship, the Westin Dildo Battery, the SunTrust Erector Set, the 191 Peachtree DoubleTwins, and the 1180 Peachtree Clam Thingy!

Also the Capitol District's own Tribute Training Center.
posted by radwolf76 at 12:21 PM on July 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


Tribute Training Center

Was that location actually in Atlanta? I do know that the Hunger Games did a fair bit of filming at the Pullman Yard, which is in Kirkwood, which is where Future is from, so BOOM, full circle.

how many of you thought this was going to be a piece about the Clermont Lounge and were disappointed?

Things the Clermont Lounge is at the forefront of:

- Never EVER putting down your drink
- A smell that is still around 2 days later
- Karaoke most resembling a David Lynch movie

Things the Clermont Lounge is not at the forefront of:

- The Hip-Hop industry
posted by Panjandrum at 12:39 PM on July 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


Was that location actually in Atlanta?

The Marriott Marquis downtown was used for filming the Tribute Training Center scenes in both Hunger Games: Catching Fire, and Hunger Games: Mockingjay, Part 1.

While they could have just used the building's interior, they also took the extra steps of using the Marriott's actual exterior dimensions for their CGI model of the building in the exterior flyover shots, making it pretty recognizable when you know to look for it. (I can't find any official confirmation of it, but I'm pretty sure that they also included the Atlanta Hilton from across the street in the skyline too.)

And to bring things back on topic to keep this from being a complete derail, here's a clip of District 7 Tribute, Johanna Mason, stripping in a Marriott elevator.
posted by radwolf76 at 6:51 AM on July 11, 2015 [3 favorites]


gucci mane: "I was going to post that link as well."

Ha, I was going through some links (inspired by this) and realized I discovered that video series from you!
posted by exogenous at 11:00 AM on July 29, 2015


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