π¬ or π?
April 11, 2016 12:36 PM Subscribe
Take a look at: π. On many browsers, and on Android phones, this looks like a grinning face with smiling eyes (the official label), while on an iOS device, this looks like a painful grimace. A study shows that these differences can lead to difficulties interpreting emotions across platforms (and even within platforms there is a lot of variation)! With linguists arguing over whether emoji can evolve into a language, and with their own distinct grammar, these differences in interpretation can matter. Either way, the real-time tracker lets you see what emoji are being tweeted [prev], and fivethirtyeight sums up the 100 most popular.
Lots of love? (My father genuinely thought that until corrected by my sister).
Ironically, the post of this title renders as "[01F / 62C] or [01F / 600]?"
With linguists arguing over whether emoji can evolve into a language...
Remember when Oxford English Dictionaries word of the year was [happy tears]? But they didn't trust browsers to render it appropriately, so they inserted it as an image? Yeah, I remember.
posted by filthy light thief at 12:44 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Ironically, the post of this title renders as "[01F / 62C] or [01F / 600]?"
With linguists arguing over whether emoji can evolve into a language...
Remember when Oxford English Dictionaries word of the year was [happy tears]? But they didn't trust browsers to render it appropriately, so they inserted it as an image? Yeah, I remember.
posted by filthy light thief at 12:44 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Poop is #88?!?! INCONCEIVABLE.
posted by joan_holloway at 12:44 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by joan_holloway at 12:44 PM on April 11, 2016
With linguists arguing over whether emoji can evolve into a language
I look forward* to the future where emoji are a language with mutually incomprehensible dialects based on what device you're most used to.
*for a given definition of 'look forward'
posted by Itaxpica at 12:47 PM on April 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
I look forward* to the future where emoji are a language with mutually incomprehensible dialects based on what device you're most used to.
*for a given definition of 'look forward'
posted by Itaxpica at 12:47 PM on April 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
My friend has an iPhone and I have a Samsung galaxy. Every time I texted her an emoji it ended up coming up as a '?' on her end, so she thought I was questioning her texts all of the time. I was totally unaware that emojis looked different on different systems - I had assumed it was just a little gif that was sent.
posted by littlesq at 12:47 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by littlesq at 12:47 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Sorry for your loss, LOL
Damn it, Mom!
posted by Drinky Die at 12:48 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Damn it, Mom!
posted by Drinky Die at 12:48 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
(Yes, apparently this was Rebekah Brooks' interpretation as well.)
posted by maryr at 12:48 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by maryr at 12:48 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
With linguists arguing over whether emoji can evolve into a language
Obviously these linguists don't have teenaged nieces. The 13-15 year olds in my life have entire, drawn out conversations on Facebook that are 100% emojis. Snapchat is selfies and emojis. Words are rarely used.
posted by jimmythefish at 12:54 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Obviously these linguists don't have teenaged nieces. The 13-15 year olds in my life have entire, drawn out conversations on Facebook that are 100% emojis. Snapchat is selfies and emojis. Words are rarely used.
posted by jimmythefish at 12:54 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
What emotion does rectangle-containing-alphanumeric-characters convey?
posted by madajb at 12:54 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
posted by madajb at 12:54 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
What emotion does rectangle-containing-alphanumeric-characters convey?
Frustration over the inability to play Sudoku properly.
posted by jimmythefish at 12:57 PM on April 11, 2016 [16 favorites]
Frustration over the inability to play Sudoku properly.
posted by jimmythefish at 12:57 PM on April 11, 2016 [16 favorites]
Apple's emoji renderings are for the most part in a completely different league than the others, like almost laughably so, but it does seem like they kind of screwed the pooch with that rictus grin they went for there.
posted by invitapriore at 12:57 PM on April 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by invitapriore at 12:57 PM on April 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
I quite like my Google/Android blobmoji and am sad when they show up otherwise on Twitter and such. :(
posted by maryr at 1:00 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by maryr at 1:00 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
My friend has an iPhone and I have a Samsung galaxy. Every time I texted her an emoji it ended up coming up as a '?' on her end, so she thought I was questioning her texts all of the time. I was totally unaware that emojis looked different on different systems - I had assumed it was just a little gif that was sent.
1000 times this. I think I might have accidentally screwed up some dating relationships by including what I thought were cute, funny emoticons in SMS texts only to discover that they were non-standard symbols that would not render between competing phone platforms or even different flavors of Android. If it wasn't for a particularly forthright woman pointing it out to me last year, I might not have even known. It's no wonder some of them never texted me back -- they couldn't tell what I was even saying.
posted by Strange Interlude at 1:01 PM on April 11, 2016 [13 favorites]
1000 times this. I think I might have accidentally screwed up some dating relationships by including what I thought were cute, funny emoticons in SMS texts only to discover that they were non-standard symbols that would not render between competing phone platforms or even different flavors of Android. If it wasn't for a particularly forthright woman pointing it out to me last year, I might not have even known. It's no wonder some of them never texted me back -- they couldn't tell what I was even saying.
posted by Strange Interlude at 1:01 PM on April 11, 2016 [13 favorites]
Nobody does :P right.
There's no grin implied
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 1:04 PM on April 11, 2016 [11 favorites]
There's no grin implied
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 1:04 PM on April 11, 2016 [11 favorites]
It didn't fit in the post, but I noticed that the three least commonly used emoji that are not symbols are all based on suspended transportation:
π‘ Aerial tramway
π Suspension railway
π Mountain cableway
I did not know these were distinct things. And yet there is no dumpling emoji? Let alone a plate of beans?
posted by blahblahblah at 1:05 PM on April 11, 2016 [12 favorites]
π‘ Aerial tramway
π Suspension railway
π Mountain cableway
I did not know these were distinct things. And yet there is no dumpling emoji? Let alone a plate of beans?
posted by blahblahblah at 1:05 PM on April 11, 2016 [12 favorites]
Apparently my phone does not truck with emoji at all; the title of this post just appears as " or ?".
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 1:05 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 1:05 PM on April 11, 2016
I truly thought that emoji was supposed to be a grimace. This may be the most important piece of information I read today.
posted by primethyme at 1:08 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
posted by primethyme at 1:08 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
The "weary cat face" emoji differences between iOS and Android caused some confusion between me and my wife. Based on the Apple representation, I thought it was supposed to be a surprised cat when I sent it. She thought I was upset instead of sarcastically not surprised.
posted by exogenous at 1:10 PM on April 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by exogenous at 1:10 PM on April 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
The latest version of Chrome for Windows doesn't even recognize the emoji in the title.
posted by Strange Interlude at 1:10 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by Strange Interlude at 1:10 PM on April 11, 2016
Nobody does :P right.
Once again that's why the android blobmoji are the best.
posted by phunniemee at 1:12 PM on April 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
Once again that's why the android blobmoji are the best.
posted by phunniemee at 1:12 PM on April 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
πΎπ¬
(Side-eye dog doesn't approve of grimacing man.)
posted by fairmettle at 1:12 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
(Side-eye dog doesn't approve of grimacing man.)
posted by fairmettle at 1:12 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
I'll be amazed if emoji are still in wide use by the end of the decade. I'm mostly seeing them used in marketing spam and the like, which feels like the end of the lifecycle.
My biggest problem with emoji at this point is there's too many of them to really inspire clever usage to express emotions, but there will never be enough to represent everything people want. The cute thing about (β―Β°β‘Β°οΌβ―οΈ΅ β»ββ» and Β―\_(γ)_/Β― is that they're subversions of the system they exist in. If you actually have an image of someone shrugging, or flipping a table, it's no longer fun. You can always use a small picture of someone being enraged or having no answer, but you lose the expressiveness.
Slang starts with subversion. Emoji are curated slang. *tiny gif of thumbs down*
posted by phooky at 1:14 PM on April 11, 2016 [27 favorites]
My biggest problem with emoji at this point is there's too many of them to really inspire clever usage to express emotions, but there will never be enough to represent everything people want. The cute thing about (β―Β°β‘Β°οΌβ―οΈ΅ β»ββ» and Β―\_(γ)_/Β― is that they're subversions of the system they exist in. If you actually have an image of someone shrugging, or flipping a table, it's no longer fun. You can always use a small picture of someone being enraged or having no answer, but you lose the expressiveness.
Slang starts with subversion. Emoji are curated slang. *tiny gif of thumbs down*
posted by phooky at 1:14 PM on April 11, 2016 [27 favorites]
That's triumph!? I had no clue what that was supposed to be.
Also "confused" is at best one possible interpretation of the :\ emoji, right? That's not how I would have labeled it.
posted by atoxyl at 1:17 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Also "confused" is at best one possible interpretation of the :\ emoji, right? That's not how I would have labeled it.
posted by atoxyl at 1:17 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Easter Island head ftw.
posted by colie at 1:18 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by colie at 1:18 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
I agree phooky. I think we'll look back on emoji in a few years and cringe, similar to the website design of the early 2000s.
posted by Deflagro at 1:19 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Deflagro at 1:19 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Unicodes notes on the emoji are interesting.
Despite Apple's Munchian take on the "weary cat face" (seriously, if you have an Android phone, this is the Apple emoji) the note says "indicates tired, not horrified"
posted by blahblahblah at 1:20 PM on April 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
Despite Apple's Munchian take on the "weary cat face" (seriously, if you have an Android phone, this is the Apple emoji) the note says "indicates tired, not horrified"
posted by blahblahblah at 1:20 PM on April 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
Your cyberpunk isn't legit till you get to that scene describing the illiterate masses as functioning just fine with their pictograms instead of alphabetic writing.
posted by butterstick at 1:21 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by butterstick at 1:21 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
I love emoji because it means I can send friends and co-workers the most ridiculous looking stuff and when they complain I just say "Weird. It looks like a smiley on my end".
posted by It's Never Lurgi at 1:23 PM on April 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by It's Never Lurgi at 1:23 PM on April 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
Someone at Emoji HQ really fucking loves trains.
posted by Artw at 1:29 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
posted by Artw at 1:29 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
I noticed this grin / grimace problem in Whatsapp, which converts the Android emoji into Facebook emoji. I don't understand how the people at Apple, Facebook, and Twitter could have come to the conclusion that their versions of the grinning face emoji would be acceptable representations of a grinning face. It says grinning right in the description! Learn the difference between grin and grimace, people!
posted by Dr. Send at 1:30 PM on April 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by Dr. Send at 1:30 PM on April 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
BREAKING: Some Platforms Subtly Misrender Single Unicode Character
posted by RogerB at 1:30 PM on April 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by RogerB at 1:30 PM on April 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
The 'need to poop' face and the 'damn that was a great poop' face show for me in the thread title, but they re just dark squares in my browser tab. Emojis are weird. I've avoided using them mainly due to how unpredictable they seem to be.
posted by mannequito at 1:30 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by mannequito at 1:30 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Unicodes notes on the emoji are interesting.
On the poop emoji: "Fix the chart glyph to have eyes, to match popular expectations."
"I expected this poop to have eyes. Why does this poop not have eyes??"
posted by BungaDunga at 1:37 PM on April 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
On the poop emoji: "Fix the chart glyph to have eyes, to match popular expectations."
"I expected this poop to have eyes. Why does this poop not have eyes??"
posted by BungaDunga at 1:37 PM on April 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
π³1οΈβ£π·0οΈβ£πΌ!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:39 PM on April 11, 2016 [16 favorites]
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:39 PM on April 11, 2016 [16 favorites]
I use a lot of emoji but the cross-platform variation is one of the things that makes me glad a lot of my more personal communication is shifting over to Telegram. Because it has stickers. Which it implements as 512x512 images that display the same no matter what platform you're on; if anyone can't figure out what those images mean, the only person to blame is the single person who drew them. (Which in the case of my own personal set of about 45 stickers is my own damn self. A lot of modern messengers are starting to have stickers but it's a hell of a lot more fun when you're not limited to whatever the folks running the system felt like commissioning; Google added stickers to Hangouts but they're never going to add ones that say "I am so high rn".)
posted by egypturnash at 1:40 PM on April 11, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by egypturnash at 1:40 PM on April 11, 2016 [7 favorites]
Strange Interlude: "The latest version of Chrome for Windows doesn't even recognize the emoji in the title."
Odd, it does for me. Windows 8.1 and Chrome 49.
posted by octothorpe at 1:50 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Odd, it does for me. Windows 8.1 and Chrome 49.
posted by octothorpe at 1:50 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
On Firefox they're just showing up as squares with tiny letters or numbers. There's a few more like that showing up in the comments, as well.
posted by Trinity-Gehenna at 1:56 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by Trinity-Gehenna at 1:56 PM on April 11, 2016
I fucking hate emoji. For all the reasons you reasoned, measured, polite folks upthread have stated...
posted by twsf at 2:23 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by twsf at 2:23 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Lots of love? (My father genuinely thought that until corrected by my sister).
My soon-to-be-officially-divorced-from-me ex thought it indicated a person's inclination to yell the word "LOLL" in a triumphant manner, as if that is a thing people do. In retrospect, it is among the many hundreds of things that should have raised a red flag.
I used the word "emoji" recently, saw the blank and uncomprehending look on her face, and simply walked away because life is too short. :{
posted by mudpuppie at 2:25 PM on April 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
My soon-to-be-officially-divorced-from-me ex thought it indicated a person's inclination to yell the word "LOLL" in a triumphant manner, as if that is a thing people do. In retrospect, it is among the many hundreds of things that should have raised a red flag.
I used the word "emoji" recently, saw the blank and uncomprehending look on her face, and simply walked away because life is too short. :{
posted by mudpuppie at 2:25 PM on April 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
I'm also quite upset there isn't a cookie emoji on android... when someone else sends me a emoji of cookies it comes up at saltine crackers :( <--sad face
posted by littlesq at 2:28 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by littlesq at 2:28 PM on April 11, 2016
With linguists arguing over whether emoji can evolve into a languageβ¦
Your cyberpunk isn't legit till you get to that scene describing the illiterate masses as functioning just fine with their pictograms instead of alphabetic writing.
Have these people not even read The Diamond Age?
I agree phooky. I think we'll look back on emoji in a few years and cringe, similar to the website design of the early 2000s.
Yes. I will bet money if anyone is interested. (Or monkey, as my spell check decided it should be)
The whole thing is some sort of throwback to the 90βs like GIFβs, which I donβt get either. I was so glad when those things went away the first time.
I fucking hate emoji. For all the reasons you reasoned, measured, polite folks upthread have stated...
It is a good indicator of people you donβt need to talk to anymore though.
posted by bongo_x at 2:31 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Your cyberpunk isn't legit till you get to that scene describing the illiterate masses as functioning just fine with their pictograms instead of alphabetic writing.
Have these people not even read The Diamond Age?
I agree phooky. I think we'll look back on emoji in a few years and cringe, similar to the website design of the early 2000s.
Yes. I will bet money if anyone is interested. (Or monkey, as my spell check decided it should be)
The whole thing is some sort of throwback to the 90βs like GIFβs, which I donβt get either. I was so glad when those things went away the first time.
I fucking hate emoji. For all the reasons you reasoned, measured, polite folks upthread have stated...
It is a good indicator of people you donβt need to talk to anymore though.
posted by bongo_x at 2:31 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
If I was going to craft a dumbass cyberpunk future that went "beyond language" people wouldn't use emojis, they'd use .gifs, and maybe memes for formal occasions.
Instead of Tenagra when the walls fell, you'd get Nope Octopus Sunglasses Deal With It.
posted by emjaybee at 2:38 PM on April 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
Instead of Tenagra when the walls fell, you'd get Nope Octopus Sunglasses Deal With It.
posted by emjaybee at 2:38 PM on April 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
I had no idea that emojis rendered that differently on different platforms. I too thought it was like a tiny gif. Well, now I understand some confused responses I've gotten.
posted by SecretAgentSockpuppet at 2:40 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by SecretAgentSockpuppet at 2:40 PM on April 11, 2016
Take a look at: π
On my browser / visual cortex it looks like Max.
posted by sfenders at 3:49 PM on April 11, 2016
On my browser / visual cortex it looks like Max.
posted by sfenders at 3:49 PM on April 11, 2016
> I'll be amazed if emoji are still in wide use by the end of the decade.
It's... 2016? I think you can prepare to be amazed. To name just one ever-more-omnipresent vector, Slack (though I spit in its general direction) is probably well short of its saturation point. Tens of millions of users are only just now getting ahold of mobile devices that support the things. You might well be able to argue that Unicode itself has exceeded the complexity (or absurdity) threshold for longterm sustainability, but it too is only going to be more widely adopted by 2020.
And hey, if they do nothing else, all those little glyphs make my spam folder more visually appealing while I'm scanning for whatever GMail has miscategorized this week.
> I agree phooky. I think we'll look back on emoji in a few years and cringe, similar to the website design of the early 2000s.
Bring back the web design of the early 2000s, plz. I'll trade you like 6 of Medium plus β new media verticals for 1 working Flickr and a couple of blogs with pageloads smaller than the installation media for any operating system I ran before about 2005.
posted by brennen at 3:51 PM on April 11, 2016 [7 favorites]
It's... 2016? I think you can prepare to be amazed. To name just one ever-more-omnipresent vector, Slack (though I spit in its general direction) is probably well short of its saturation point. Tens of millions of users are only just now getting ahold of mobile devices that support the things. You might well be able to argue that Unicode itself has exceeded the complexity (or absurdity) threshold for longterm sustainability, but it too is only going to be more widely adopted by 2020.
And hey, if they do nothing else, all those little glyphs make my spam folder more visually appealing while I'm scanning for whatever GMail has miscategorized this week.
> I agree phooky. I think we'll look back on emoji in a few years and cringe, similar to the website design of the early 2000s.
Bring back the web design of the early 2000s, plz. I'll trade you like 6 of Medium plus β new media verticals for 1 working Flickr and a couple of blogs with pageloads smaller than the installation media for any operating system I ran before about 2005.
posted by brennen at 3:51 PM on April 11, 2016 [7 favorites]
Pro-Emjoi person here! Global family using WhatApp relies on emojis to express that je nais se quoi that only a tiny pig and a dancing lady can express.
posted by CMcG at 3:54 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by CMcG at 3:54 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Despite Apple's Munchian take on the "weary cat face" (seriously, if you have an Android phone, this is the Apple emoji) the note says "indicates tired, not horrified"
Even 538 list the non-cat version of that one as "scream?" Or are they supposed to be different? They look the same to me and I had definitely assumed (as an iOS user) that they were meant to convey shock if not existential horror.
posted by atoxyl at 3:55 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Even 538 list the non-cat version of that one as "scream?" Or are they supposed to be different? They look the same to me and I had definitely assumed (as an iOS user) that they were meant to convey shock if not existential horror.
posted by atoxyl at 3:55 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
On my company's Slack we have a custom emoji of that weird grimace but with silver spray paint across the mouth.
"About to launch the site. WITNESS ME!!!! π¬"
posted by brundlefly at 4:09 PM on April 11, 2016 [28 favorites]
"About to launch the site. WITNESS ME!!!! π¬"
posted by brundlefly at 4:09 PM on April 11, 2016 [28 favorites]
I'd rather you respond with an unreadable emoji than a "K" every freaking time.
posted by dubwisened at 4:27 PM on April 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by dubwisened at 4:27 PM on April 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
K.
posted by jacquilynne at 4:28 PM on April 11, 2016 [9 favorites]
posted by jacquilynne at 4:28 PM on April 11, 2016 [9 favorites]
Take a look at: πI...did not previously know that emoji get slanted in an italicized block of text. At least they do in Safari on El Capitan.
On my browser / visual cortex it looks like Max.
posted by invitapriore at 4:30 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
I'll be amazed if emoji are still in wide use by the end of the decade. I'm mostly seeing them used in marketing spam and the like, which feels like the end of the lifecycle.
10-4 on that good buddy. This trend is going to burn out faster than a Jimmy tryin to get away from a bear rolling discos.
posted by GuyZero at 4:55 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
10-4 on that good buddy. This trend is going to burn out faster than a Jimmy tryin to get away from a bear rolling discos.
posted by GuyZero at 4:55 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
I never was into emoji until I started working in a distributed workplace based around Slack. But yeah, π β¨ π― .
At work, developers also generally approve pull requests that pass code review with a single emoji in GitHub (commonly π΄ ). The goofy thing is when I see the notification email come through in Gmail, which has Google-style emoji display. The horse face definitely looks like a dragon head in Gmail.
posted by limeonaire at 5:13 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
At work, developers also generally approve pull requests that pass code review with a single emoji in GitHub (commonly π΄ ). The goofy thing is when I see the notification email come through in Gmail, which has Google-style emoji display. The horse face definitely looks like a dragon head in Gmail.
posted by limeonaire at 5:13 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
But yeah, it blows my mind to think about what a crazily different view of the world anyone has if they use nonβApple/International Style emojis in Slack. Actually, since there are four default emoji set possibilities, maybe I should try changing my emoji set every day for a week sometime. Changing that feels weird for even 5 minutes; I don't know if I could stand it for an entire day!
posted by limeonaire at 5:19 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by limeonaire at 5:19 PM on April 11, 2016
It's amazing how quickly Emoji have taken over American communication online. I keep wondering if folks from five-years-ago Japan have any words of wisdom for us. But the difference of interpretation is a real problem in pictogram languages.
It's a harmless example, but the Microsoft variant of the π― glyph is pretty hilarious. One of these things just doesn't belong.
posted by Nelson at 5:37 PM on April 11, 2016 [7 favorites]
It's a harmless example, but the Microsoft variant of the π― glyph is pretty hilarious. One of these things just doesn't belong.
posted by Nelson at 5:37 PM on April 11, 2016 [7 favorites]
Interestingly, display of emoji across MeFi seems to vary; all my emoji in the body of my comment above are showing on my user activity page here, but the emoji in "π¬ or π ?" in the title of this post on the user activity page are not, though I can copy and paste that area here as I just did in this sentence. This is in Chrome on El Capitan (screenshot).
posted by limeonaire at 5:49 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by limeonaire at 5:49 PM on April 11, 2016
The react-with-emoji feature in Slack is brilliant and I wish it were the default everywhere.
"I just pushed this live to dev branch"Β
π
"Here is your bank balance"
π°
"Wanna go get a drink?"
π»
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 6:26 PM on April 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
"I just pushed this live to dev branch"Β
π
"Here is your bank balance"
π°
"Wanna go get a drink?"
π»
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 6:26 PM on April 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
My most used emoji at work these days is this one in Skype for Business and it really needs to be cross platform because no other emoji lets everyone know how much I HATE YOU ALL so effectively.
posted by eyeballkid at 6:35 PM on April 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by eyeballkid at 6:35 PM on April 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
I'm partial to π’π¨. Aka. Turtle fart. It's my "meh" and or "sad kazoo" of 2016
posted by atomicstone at 6:36 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by atomicstone at 6:36 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
I...did not previously know that emoji get slanted in an italicized block of text.
On Apple this is useful for correcting the posture of palm trees
π΄ → π΄
posted by oulipian at 6:51 PM on April 11, 2016 [9 favorites]
On Apple this is useful for correcting the posture of palm trees
π΄ → π΄
posted by oulipian at 6:51 PM on April 11, 2016 [9 favorites]
I sure hope this translates:
π₯π₯
βπ
π
πβ
ππ
π₯π₯
βπ
π
πβ
ππ
π₯π₯
βπ
π
πβ
ππ
π₯π₯
βπ
π
πβ
πβ‘πππ«ππβ
posted by anshuman at 7:04 PM on April 11, 2016 [10 favorites]
π₯π₯
βπ
π
πβ
ππ
π₯π₯
βπ
π
πβ
ππ
π₯π₯
βπ
π
πβ
ππ
π₯π₯
βπ
π
πβ
πβ‘πππ«ππβ
posted by anshuman at 7:04 PM on April 11, 2016 [10 favorites]
oh my god, is it finally OK to hate emoji? i no longer come off as a cranky old man telling the kids to get off my lawn?
posted by indubitable at 7:07 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by indubitable at 7:07 PM on April 11, 2016
i had an intern who didn't respond to requests for personal info so she could get paid until I texted her π°β
I wish I were making that up.
posted by infinitewindow at 7:32 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
I wish I were making that up.
posted by infinitewindow at 7:32 PM on April 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
Wow, the "face with stuck-out tongue" one conveys "ha ha, so silly" in iOS and many of the others, but "ugh, blah" in Android. I can imagine that has derailed some conversations.
posted by lisa g at 7:57 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by lisa g at 7:57 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
My ex and I used to play a fun game where we'd send each other little rebuses made out of emojis. Like, guess the album name: πΊπΈπ¨πΊπ
posted by aka burlap at 7:58 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by aka burlap at 7:58 PM on April 11, 2016
The inclusion of the Mozilla grinning-face emoji (by far the best of the bunch) made me seek out the rest and it turns out they're freakin' adorable.
posted by neckro23 at 8:02 PM on April 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by neckro23 at 8:02 PM on April 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
posted by matildaben at 8:19 PM on April 11, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by matildaben at 8:19 PM on April 11, 2016 [7 favorites]
My old LG displayed a smiley face as an alien. So what does that mean in emoji context?
posted by jenfullmoon at 9:12 PM on April 11, 2016
posted by jenfullmoon at 9:12 PM on April 11, 2016
My friends and I have started spelling out emojis. In a sarcastic, meta sort of way. Airplane, airplane, heart, heart.
posted by schneckinlittle at 9:31 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by schneckinlittle at 9:31 PM on April 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Today I experienced an earthquake, and was disappointed to find my iPhone does not have an earthquake emoji. I guess tsunami was the closest? But it might just be a big wave. I guess volcano? Some squiggly lines ones also, but someone needs to get on that so I can tweet my condition more quickly. "Earthquake" doesn't even auto-fill very quickly, and I don't want to be typing all that out during the Big One.
posted by Metro Gnome at 9:44 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Metro Gnome at 9:44 PM on April 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Some folks are really passionate about emoji. There were complaints about the old android pile-of-poo (flies, no eyes) and then there were complaints about the new one (like Apple's) by folks who preferred the 'non-anthropoomorphic' version. There are people who think the Android emoji just suxxors and people who actually like the blobs. Unicode has received more attention in the popular press last year than in the previous 15 years because of emoji. It's mystifying to me, but I'm too old to understand. π΅
There are different emoji on different versions of the android OS and different ones depending on the manufacturer of your device. Really, there's no knowing what someone will see when you send one. And of course as the lead article said even people seeing the same image can disagree on the sentiment being expressed.
π©
posted by dougfelt at 10:07 PM on April 11, 2016
There are different emoji on different versions of the android OS and different ones depending on the manufacturer of your device. Really, there's no knowing what someone will see when you send one. And of course as the lead article said even people seeing the same image can disagree on the sentiment being expressed.
π©
posted by dougfelt at 10:07 PM on April 11, 2016
Plain old smiley face is number 53. As I don't know how to use any other emoji, this is Today's Internet Thing That Makes Me Feel Old.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 1:04 AM on April 12, 2016
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 1:04 AM on April 12, 2016
For instance, when seeing this Apple emoji rendering Apple's person raising both hands in celebration emoji π, participants used words like βstopβ and βclap,β whereas they described the Google version of the same emoji character with words like βpraiseβ and βhand.β
I wonder about the (forgive me) 'emoji literacy' of the people surveyed. In the spaces I frequent, π always but always carries the 'praise' meaning.
posted by Gordafarin at 1:13 AM on April 12, 2016
I wonder about the (forgive me) 'emoji literacy' of the people surveyed. In the spaces I frequent, π always but always carries the 'praise' meaning.
posted by Gordafarin at 1:13 AM on April 12, 2016
Hmm ....
π©
... now lemme try some bold tags, here:
π©
OK, that's uhh ... Hmm.
That's some pretty bold shit.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 4:19 AM on April 12, 2016 [4 favorites]
π©
... now lemme try some bold tags, here:
π©
OK, that's uhh ... Hmm.
That's some pretty bold shit.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 4:19 AM on April 12, 2016 [4 favorites]
This... this is it, isn't it? This is the feeling you get when you know, inexorably, beyond any doubt, that you are old and will never again understand The Youth? I always knew the day would come, but I always thought it would be music! Fashion! Slang! Never in my darkest dreams did I even consider that it would be Unicode-compliance that heralded the arrival of Grouchy Old Dude Syndrome.
Since I'm now required to shake my fist angrily at you kids on my lawn: hey, guys. Remember? Those times we decided to adopt wildly Balkanized formats, trusting every platform to handle character encoding and rendering correctly? And when it completely and utterly failed, every time, and each successive generation was worse than the last one and we couldn't even decide on 16- or 32-bit character width, so somebody just said "Fuck it, we'll do it live!" and then we had endless wars of big-versus-little-endian-ness, and then someone decided to make TTF specs that don't require sane handling of large-range glyphs, and then we decided to completely break the goddamn internet so that someone could draw a little pile of poop without having to host their own PNG for it? Because I sure as hell remember, and I'm not actually all that much older than you kids and your damn-hell emojis.
posted by Mayor West at 5:22 AM on April 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
Since I'm now required to shake my fist angrily at you kids on my lawn: hey, guys. Remember? Those times we decided to adopt wildly Balkanized formats, trusting every platform to handle character encoding and rendering correctly? And when it completely and utterly failed, every time, and each successive generation was worse than the last one and we couldn't even decide on 16- or 32-bit character width, so somebody just said "Fuck it, we'll do it live!" and then we had endless wars of big-versus-little-endian-ness, and then someone decided to make TTF specs that don't require sane handling of large-range glyphs, and then we decided to completely break the goddamn internet so that someone could draw a little pile of poop without having to host their own PNG for it? Because I sure as hell remember, and I'm not actually all that much older than you kids and your damn-hell emojis.
posted by Mayor West at 5:22 AM on April 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
Correct! Good job matildaben.
posted by aka burlap at 6:01 AM on April 12, 2016
posted by aka burlap at 6:01 AM on April 12, 2016
The chat function in gmail used to have the most AMAZING :P emoji. It would start out as :|
...and then it would rotate clockwise ninety degrees...
and then the tongue would stick out, oh so slowly.
and the tongue was pink!
I used to just send people copy & pasted :P a million times just to watch it.
posted by Lucinda at 6:44 AM on April 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
...and then it would rotate clockwise ninety degrees...
and then the tongue would stick out, oh so slowly.
and the tongue was pink!
I used to just send people copy & pasted :P a million times just to watch it.
posted by Lucinda at 6:44 AM on April 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
Just pointing out that π and π¬ are different. The first is a big grin but the second doesn't have the happy eyes and is clearly more of a grimace or fake grin. This is reflected in the names of the emoji (in the Apple ecosystem): GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES vs GRIMACING FACE.
posted by misskaz at 7:06 AM on April 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by misskaz at 7:06 AM on April 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
I noticed my android emoticons, often look completely different, interpreted by Facebook. So, just another reason to avoid trying to make it real.
posted by OyΓ©ah at 8:22 AM on April 12, 2016
posted by OyΓ©ah at 8:22 AM on April 12, 2016
Are all the Microsoft emojis a hot mess or is it just me? There's just no damned consistency there.
posted by caution live frogs at 1:27 PM on April 12, 2016
posted by caution live frogs at 1:27 PM on April 12, 2016
I just wish every emoji had its name visible on hover on all platforms and browsers. That helps eliminate a lot of confusion in Slack.
posted by limeonaire at 4:13 PM on April 12, 2016
posted by limeonaire at 4:13 PM on April 12, 2016
Nelson: "I keep wondering if folks from five-years-ago Japan have any words of wisdom for us."
I think the folks from five-years-ago Japan are on the same page as you but find it weird that Westerners are so obsessed with the poop emoji. But folks in modern-day Japan have one word for you: "Stickers" I don't think any of my friends use emoji anymore, but people who I think are otherwise sane spend real, actual money for stickers to use in texts. It's not so much that people are over emoji as much as people are all gaga about stickers.
Mayor West: "then we decided to completely break the goddamn internet so that someone could draw a little pile of poop without having to host their own PNG for it"
?? I understand hating emoji (I don't hate them, but I've been using them for goddamn forever now), but I don't get how they break the internet. It's a Unicode code. Companies with shitty design sensibilities represent them badly, but that's their fault, not an indicator of broken internet. That's like saying ASCII is broken because a browser company set this font as its default font and then users of that browser were unable to read comments on MetaFilter.
posted by Bugbread at 5:03 PM on April 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
I think the folks from five-years-ago Japan are on the same page as you but find it weird that Westerners are so obsessed with the poop emoji. But folks in modern-day Japan have one word for you: "Stickers" I don't think any of my friends use emoji anymore, but people who I think are otherwise sane spend real, actual money for stickers to use in texts. It's not so much that people are over emoji as much as people are all gaga about stickers.
Mayor West: "then we decided to completely break the goddamn internet so that someone could draw a little pile of poop without having to host their own PNG for it"
?? I understand hating emoji (I don't hate them, but I've been using them for goddamn forever now), but I don't get how they break the internet. It's a Unicode code. Companies with shitty design sensibilities represent them badly, but that's their fault, not an indicator of broken internet. That's like saying ASCII is broken because a browser company set this font as its default font and then users of that browser were unable to read comments on MetaFilter.
posted by Bugbread at 5:03 PM on April 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
I don't super mind a single reaction emoji in an SMS or IM. But they drive me nuts in a more text-centric environment, like Metafilter. And I cannot stand when people string a bunch together. Mathowie does this on Twitter sometimes, and it makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
posted by Chrysostom at 8:43 AM on April 13, 2016
posted by Chrysostom at 8:43 AM on April 13, 2016
And that should be obvious, since the iOS emojis are terrible. They're all just, "Huh. I guess that could sort of be interpreted that way, but what's up with that, and why wouldn't you just do this?" Like, what's squirting out of Sleepy's face, and why?
You'd think Apple could afford to hire someone with illustration or animation talent for a couple days to render fairly basic emotions in a way that isn't weirdly inscrutable.
posted by Sys Rq at 12:25 PM on May 3, 2016
You'd think Apple could afford to hire someone with illustration or animation talent for a couple days to render fairly basic emotions in a way that isn't weirdly inscrutable.
posted by Sys Rq at 12:25 PM on May 3, 2016
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