Picks or Plectrums
July 9, 2020 6:35 AM Subscribe
Made of wood, tortoise shell, celluloid, nylon, thermoplastic, metal, felt, graphite, among others, guitar picks have had an interesting evolution.
The modern guitar pick owes its form to a chance encounter of a vacuum cleaner salesman with celluloid sheets originally destined for boxes of face powder.
A Euro-centric history of the evolution of the guitar pick.
Some people collect guitar picks.
You could have custom picks made if you wanted. Or just choose from a very large selection already available.
Guitar picks are part of a family of implements known as plectrums. Plucked string instruments are found all over the world. There are many kinds of plectrums. Biwa and Shamisen use bachi. Ouds use a risha
The modern guitar pick owes its form to a chance encounter of a vacuum cleaner salesman with celluloid sheets originally destined for boxes of face powder.
A Euro-centric history of the evolution of the guitar pick.
Some people collect guitar picks.
You could have custom picks made if you wanted. Or just choose from a very large selection already available.
Guitar picks are part of a family of implements known as plectrums. Plucked string instruments are found all over the world. There are many kinds of plectrums. Biwa and Shamisen use bachi. Ouds use a risha
The ones I use are punched out of stainless steel by a guy in Amarillo named David
posted by Maaik at 6:51 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by Maaik at 6:51 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Some people collect guitar picks.
I have taken up guitar in the last few years, and have become fairly obsessed with picks....I have a wide variety now, and I still cannot decide which ones I like best. I even bought a few really expensive fancy ones for shredders, although I don't use them much.
When I was a teenage bass player, I bought into the idea that "real" bass players do not use picks. That is the law! And I was very dogmatic about this, in the way that young people can be. I'm not sure where that idea came from -maybe gatekeeping against guitar players who were doubling on electric bass (although that is how, e.g. Carol Kaye got started).
So one day I was at a school jazz band event, and there was a performance by a piano trio who had been hired for the event. The electric bass player, who was playing this gorgeous Alembic Series II, turned out to be like the top guy in Atlanta. He was playing stuff that I hadn't even dreamed was possible on the bass - with a pick, almost all the time. This caused me so much cognitive dissonance! Pick usage is quite unusual for jazz bass players, although Steve Swallow plays with one. It was a valuable lesson in the shortcomings of my prejudices, albeit in a trivial way.
Now, if I ever got into a rock band again, I wouldn't hesitate to mostly play with a pick - it just works for cutting through the mix in a loud environment.
posted by thelonius at 7:03 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
I have taken up guitar in the last few years, and have become fairly obsessed with picks....I have a wide variety now, and I still cannot decide which ones I like best. I even bought a few really expensive fancy ones for shredders, although I don't use them much.
When I was a teenage bass player, I bought into the idea that "real" bass players do not use picks. That is the law! And I was very dogmatic about this, in the way that young people can be. I'm not sure where that idea came from -maybe gatekeeping against guitar players who were doubling on electric bass (although that is how, e.g. Carol Kaye got started).
So one day I was at a school jazz band event, and there was a performance by a piano trio who had been hired for the event. The electric bass player, who was playing this gorgeous Alembic Series II, turned out to be like the top guy in Atlanta. He was playing stuff that I hadn't even dreamed was possible on the bass - with a pick, almost all the time. This caused me so much cognitive dissonance! Pick usage is quite unusual for jazz bass players, although Steve Swallow plays with one. It was a valuable lesson in the shortcomings of my prejudices, albeit in a trivial way.
Now, if I ever got into a rock band again, I wouldn't hesitate to mostly play with a pick - it just works for cutting through the mix in a loud environment.
posted by thelonius at 7:03 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
A good reason The Edge sounds like The Edge is due to, not only the picks he uses, but how he holds them. He uses Hardim picks and grips them so that the back edge of the pick hits the strings. These particular picks have little bumps on them to improve the grip, but the way he holds them the bumps hit the strings so he gets his signature chime. I have some of them and it really makes a difference in the attack.
I mean he also uses about a billion dollars worth of effects along with a collection of hundreds of the world's finest guitars, but the picks make a difference.
posted by bondcliff at 7:11 AM on July 9, 2020 [3 favorites]
I mean he also uses about a billion dollars worth of effects along with a collection of hundreds of the world's finest guitars, but the picks make a difference.
posted by bondcliff at 7:11 AM on July 9, 2020 [3 favorites]
Blue Chip picks are one of the most popular picks for professionals and semi-professionals in bluegrass, folk, country, etc. Everyone I know who switches over to these extremely expensive picks loves them and stays with them.
posted by blob at 7:31 AM on July 9, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by blob at 7:31 AM on July 9, 2020 [2 favorites]
I know I have a tendency to collect a lot of kit, and it distracts me from getting good at things. So I have a dozen or so random picks, and I'm determined not to buy any more until some of them wear out from all the practising I should be doing.
It's something I learned from years of archery and woodworking - fancy equipment only makes a difference if your technique is already very good.
posted by pipeski at 7:46 AM on July 9, 2020 [4 favorites]
It's something I learned from years of archery and woodworking - fancy equipment only makes a difference if your technique is already very good.
posted by pipeski at 7:46 AM on July 9, 2020 [4 favorites]
Blue Chip picks
Well. my idea of a “really expensive” pick has been revised....
posted by thelonius at 7:49 AM on July 9, 2020 [4 favorites]
Well. my idea of a “really expensive” pick has been revised....
posted by thelonius at 7:49 AM on July 9, 2020 [4 favorites]
As a fingerpicker, I‘ve failed numerous times at playing with a (thumb) pick. Flat pick - entirely unimaginable how that would ever work. (I’ve heard flatpickers say the same thing about more advanced fingerstyle, so...). I do miss the opportunity to seek out fancy/interesting picks.
posted by The Toad at 8:42 AM on July 9, 2020
posted by The Toad at 8:42 AM on July 9, 2020
Well. my idea of a “really expensive” pick has been revised....
Good lord, yes. This is an artisanal thing I could not have forecast.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 9:15 AM on July 9, 2020
Good lord, yes. This is an artisanal thing I could not have forecast.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 9:15 AM on July 9, 2020
The History of the Guitar Craft Pick, Steve Ball
Very good, but not available to the public.
I often sculpt mine from a Tortex Flow or a Fender Delrin.
My preferred thickness is .85, so it's a compromise. Whaddya gonna do?
posted by j_curiouser at 9:47 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Very good, but not available to the public.
I often sculpt mine from a Tortex Flow or a Fender Delrin.
My preferred thickness is .85, so it's a compromise. Whaddya gonna do?
posted by j_curiouser at 9:47 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Wegen picks for me. One man business out of The Netherlands. You can still buy them by sending cash through the mail. His 1.4mm bluegrass picks give Blue Chip a run for their money imho, and a "bargain" at around $4 each. To my ear they are either "less crisp" or slightly warmer than Blue Chip but they dance across the strings and they are LOUD when you need it. My technique is my technique, so apples to apples of course picks make a huge difference. I buy a pack of four every few years and they wear very slowly. Usually only order more because of giving them away. "Hey what's that pick?"
posted by Lorin at 10:30 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by Lorin at 10:30 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Dunlop Primetone ain't bad either for a slightly cheaper premium pick. Totally different sound, bright and crisp. Love the one with the classic Jazz III style grip. Unfortunately they are simply not as loud as the Wegen. "On this planet, louder is better." -- Jerry Garcia, The Pizza Tapes.
posted by Lorin at 10:45 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by Lorin at 10:45 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
I was working the door at bar and a geoupd of young 20's patrons come up. I'm checking id's and this one kid hands me his DL with a triangle cut out of the middle. I could still read all the info so I asked him what was up with the hole. He proudly explained that they needed a guitar pick the night before and couldn't find one, so he made one out of his id. I felt kinda bad informing him he had invalidated it and I couldn't let him in.
posted by nestor_makhno at 10:54 AM on July 9, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by nestor_makhno at 10:54 AM on July 9, 2020 [3 favorites]
It all started in downtown New York City in 1922. Luigi D’Andrea, a Neapolitan vacuum cleaner salesman, happened upon a sidewalk sale. He bought some sheets of tortoise shell colored cellulose nitrate plastic and mallet dies that were used to make little heart shaped decorations for the tops of powder puff boxes. He punched out a few hundred of the little 1″ flat hearts on his kitchen table. When his young son Anthony observed that the hearts resembled an uncle’s tortoise shell mandolin pick it gave Luigi an idea. A few days later, he sold a cigar box of the little hearts to the G. Schirmer & Son Company, a New York music store, for the amazing sum of $10. He knew he had something to build on here so he started a small factory on 27th street in NYC.
That's an interesting bit of history. Thanks for this.
In high school, I figured out that a lighter applied to the side of a celluloid pick was a fun party trick. "WHOA MAN, THOSE TOTALLY FUCKIN' BURN."
Blue Chip picks are one of the most popular picks for professionals and semi-professionals in bluegrass, folk, country, etc. Everyone I know who switches over to these extremely expensive picks loves them and stays with them.
A guy I jam with dropped his Blue Chip in his back yard a couple of years ago just as it was getting dark. We did a bit of a grid search with no luck, and he said "I'll find it eventually." He didn't, so there's still a running joke about whether or not he's found it yet (he hasn't, and is therefore out the cost of three or four packs of strings).
But yeah, people I know who use them really like them (I mean, for that price they'd better be likeable).
The times I've tried them, I've found them too bright and strident. They sound great in certain people's hands, but I'm with pipeski on it having mostly to do with the quality of the driver, not the car, so to speak.
I lose or misplace picks with enough regularity that I've stuck with rounded Golden Gates for mandolin for several years now. They're cheap and I like them.
On acoustic guitar, I keep coming back to nylon Dunlop 1mm because it just seems to feel right. And I've dusted off Dunlop 208s for electric guitar lately because I like the tone I get with them, and I like the chunkiness of the pick. That may be a byproduct of several years of mandolin picking.
I've been thinking about giving the Wegens a try, though.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 11:00 AM on July 9, 2020 [2 favorites]
That's an interesting bit of history. Thanks for this.
In high school, I figured out that a lighter applied to the side of a celluloid pick was a fun party trick. "WHOA MAN, THOSE TOTALLY FUCKIN' BURN."
Blue Chip picks are one of the most popular picks for professionals and semi-professionals in bluegrass, folk, country, etc. Everyone I know who switches over to these extremely expensive picks loves them and stays with them.
A guy I jam with dropped his Blue Chip in his back yard a couple of years ago just as it was getting dark. We did a bit of a grid search with no luck, and he said "I'll find it eventually." He didn't, so there's still a running joke about whether or not he's found it yet (he hasn't, and is therefore out the cost of three or four packs of strings).
But yeah, people I know who use them really like them (I mean, for that price they'd better be likeable).
The times I've tried them, I've found them too bright and strident. They sound great in certain people's hands, but I'm with pipeski on it having mostly to do with the quality of the driver, not the car, so to speak.
I lose or misplace picks with enough regularity that I've stuck with rounded Golden Gates for mandolin for several years now. They're cheap and I like them.
On acoustic guitar, I keep coming back to nylon Dunlop 1mm because it just seems to feel right. And I've dusted off Dunlop 208s for electric guitar lately because I like the tone I get with them, and I like the chunkiness of the pick. That may be a byproduct of several years of mandolin picking.
I've been thinking about giving the Wegens a try, though.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 11:00 AM on July 9, 2020 [2 favorites]
Oh man yeah, the black Dunlops. I went through roughly a million of those before I switched to stainless steel. They were constantly clanking around in the drier and turning up under couch cushions and wherever. They were great.
Lately I've been using the silver Hercos on acoustic and I really like those.
posted by Maaik at 11:20 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Lately I've been using the silver Hercos on acoustic and I really like those.
posted by Maaik at 11:20 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Picks are a great fun way to mess about with your guitar/base/mandolin/other instrument and can be not crazy expensive. I've tried the standard fender thins and mediums, Dunlop nylons in various thicknesses, funky specialty picks with a shark-fin profile and a reverse scallop on the other side, thicker, thinner, bigger, smaller, etc. I've been messing about on guitars off and on for years, and only recently saw in an online mandolin lesson the "bouncing the pick off a table" thing to judge its "tone". I made a few picks of my own, years ago, with one of my favorites coming from the lenses of an old pair of safety goggles that had been fogged up from a solvent spill. After cutting, shaping, and a certain amount of polishing, they ended up looking like chips of ice. ICE PICKS! I've been mostly working on finger-picking lately, but the current go-to when I need a pick is a nice green dunlop tortex. I like the matte finish for grip, and it has a balance of stiffness/flexibility that I like.
posted by coppertop at 11:37 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by coppertop at 11:37 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Gosh, if losing his blue chip was the cost of three or four sets of strings, then he must be using cheap strings! :-) my mandolin Thomastiks cost more than my blue chip did. Blue chips are good but I also use wegen, manouche, and hawk picks - all good. I'd like to try the new Thile Dunlop pick but haven't found anyone selling them here.
posted by bifurcated at 11:42 AM on July 9, 2020
posted by bifurcated at 11:42 AM on July 9, 2020
I played Fender mediums for decades but I recently switched to Snark (their real name) mediums and love them. They have a coating on one side that helps holding them and I almost never drop one anymore.
posted by tommasz at 11:43 AM on July 9, 2020
posted by tommasz at 11:43 AM on July 9, 2020
When I was a beginner, I'd pick up a guitar and start my exercises, scales or whatever. But just getting started, it maybe wouldn't feel right, or it just didn't feel smooth or good like it had the day before.
And since the thing in my hand was a pick, I'd think to myself dang I need a different pick. So I'd dig around in the altoids tin and take a different one. But it still didn't feel good so I'd find another. And I'd end up spending half an hour testing picks and never getting the feel I wanted.
But of course the real problem was that I wasn't warmed up. And if I had just spent that half an hour playing my exercises, then I'd have that feel back, regardless of which pick I had grabbed.
So I decided to remove that variable. I chose one and determined to stick with it forever. And I have. It's the tortex Jazz III 1.14mm.
posted by rlk at 11:49 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
And since the thing in my hand was a pick, I'd think to myself dang I need a different pick. So I'd dig around in the altoids tin and take a different one. But it still didn't feel good so I'd find another. And I'd end up spending half an hour testing picks and never getting the feel I wanted.
But of course the real problem was that I wasn't warmed up. And if I had just spent that half an hour playing my exercises, then I'd have that feel back, regardless of which pick I had grabbed.
So I decided to remove that variable. I chose one and determined to stick with it forever. And I have. It's the tortex Jazz III 1.14mm.
posted by rlk at 11:49 AM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
The current prejudice against using a pick on bass was surprising to me, but then I learned to play bass during the London punk era of the late 70s and the pick was standard. My favorites are very pick based, like Jean-Jacques Burnel from the Stranglers and Hooky from JD/New Order.
I think the only finger style bassist I like is John Entwistle from The Who.
I started keeping a pick in my back pocket again after years of not, and it was part of starting to identify as a guitarist & bassist again, which makes me happy.
posted by w0mbat at 12:08 PM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
I think the only finger style bassist I like is John Entwistle from The Who.
I started keeping a pick in my back pocket again after years of not, and it was part of starting to identify as a guitarist & bassist again, which makes me happy.
posted by w0mbat at 12:08 PM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
Maaik: “Lately I've been using the silver Hercos on acoustic and I really like those.”I've played Hercos for 30 years. Gold for acoustic. Silver for electric.
posted by ob1quixote at 12:43 PM on July 9, 2020
In my early 20s there was a lot of music in the flat I shared with several other people. We kept losing guitar picks, as you do. But eventually we hit the Pick Event Horizon which is when every surface that can contain a guitar pick HAS A GUITAR PICK IN IT. At this point, you stop losing guitar picks, and you start finding them.
posted by i_am_joe's_spleen at 12:44 PM on July 9, 2020 [8 favorites]
posted by i_am_joe's_spleen at 12:44 PM on July 9, 2020 [8 favorites]
I started recording myself in the late 90's when full duplex audio cards dropped in price to the point that mere mortals could afford them and the ability of a computer to fold, spindle, and mutilate sound opened up a world of possibilities to play with - I never got really good at guitar, but became fascinated by the world of recorded sound.
One time I wanted a really light, shimmery acoustic tone that I couldn't seem to get and, as a last ditch effort, started cycling through different materials to use as a pick - paper was too light, credit card too heavy, etc. I finally settled on cutting out a vaguely pick-shaped object from an old milk jug, and it was perfect. I haven't used it since, but I still have that super light pick in my case.
posted by eclectist at 1:00 PM on July 9, 2020 [2 favorites]
One time I wanted a really light, shimmery acoustic tone that I couldn't seem to get and, as a last ditch effort, started cycling through different materials to use as a pick - paper was too light, credit card too heavy, etc. I finally settled on cutting out a vaguely pick-shaped object from an old milk jug, and it was perfect. I haven't used it since, but I still have that super light pick in my case.
posted by eclectist at 1:00 PM on July 9, 2020 [2 favorites]
So I'd dig around in the altoids tin and take a different one.
I just dumped my Altoids tin on the counter for...a pick pic, I guess?
The worn nub of an orange Tortex in the middle has been in there since I was 17 or something. I just realized that tin has been with me for decades.
There are likely another dozen or so in or on:
- The couch cushions
- Various shelves around the house
- Pockets of clothes currently in the laundry hamper
- Eventually the dryer again
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 1:02 PM on July 9, 2020
I just dumped my Altoids tin on the counter for...a pick pic, I guess?
The worn nub of an orange Tortex in the middle has been in there since I was 17 or something. I just realized that tin has been with me for decades.
There are likely another dozen or so in or on:
- The couch cushions
- Various shelves around the house
- Pockets of clothes currently in the laundry hamper
- Eventually the dryer again
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 1:02 PM on July 9, 2020
I should probably check the vacuum cleaner bag, too.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 1:02 PM on July 9, 2020
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 1:02 PM on July 9, 2020
Wasn't there a funny video or scene from some movie years back where a guy makes a big show of having guitar picks in his pocket when he pulls out change to pay for something? I recall that really hit me and I stopped carrying picks in my change pocket so people wouldn't think I was doing that, because that was exactly what I had been doing.
I generally like picks on the heavier side as they suit my sloppy, scratchy, percussive mess of a playing style. (Think Eugene Chadbourne minus the talent.) I have been digging these recycled plastic/copper picks, which also have a nice grabby bit to help prevent dropping or getting knocked out of my hand while bashing away. I can make do with a quarter, which works for my playing style but is tough to hold onto.
The altoids tin or similar is great, but then I just misplace the tin itself.
posted by zoinks at 1:38 PM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
I generally like picks on the heavier side as they suit my sloppy, scratchy, percussive mess of a playing style. (Think Eugene Chadbourne minus the talent.) I have been digging these recycled plastic/copper picks, which also have a nice grabby bit to help prevent dropping or getting knocked out of my hand while bashing away. I can make do with a quarter, which works for my playing style but is tough to hold onto.
The altoids tin or similar is great, but then I just misplace the tin itself.
posted by zoinks at 1:38 PM on July 9, 2020 [1 favorite]
1.9 ?!! Might as well use a machined down Mexican peso.
posted by j_curiouser at 7:58 PM on July 9, 2020
posted by j_curiouser at 7:58 PM on July 9, 2020
That peso pick is cool! I've got something similar that was machined from a bronze Turkish cymbal. My wife got it for me as a gift and it plays really nice
posted by Maaik at 8:17 PM on July 9, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by Maaik at 8:17 PM on July 9, 2020 [2 favorites]
I use to favour pretty thin picks, Tortex yellow was one. Then I tried the v-picks mentioned above, which weren't for me, but they made me rethink heavier picks. They can dance across the strings in a very light way! I still want to try some of the comically thick picks from Wegen, like the 3.5mm gypsy jazz or the ludicrous 5mm Fatone.
posted by Lorin at 8:26 PM on July 9, 2020
posted by Lorin at 8:26 PM on July 9, 2020
Well, thanks to this thread and a random web search I wound up finding a guy in Sweden who was selling some 1960s carbonite triangular picks similar to the ones that influenced the Guitar Craft picks, spent far too much on them and they're on their way to me now, hopefully. The crazy thing is that they can't be as good as the current GC picks, hand made by one guy in Tokyo (which are superb), but at least they'll satisfy my curiosity.
Last years, I also, on a whim, got a pick made out of an 1806 penny, which is very effective in a very limited number of use cases. And I have a box full of different types of picks for different kinds of things - some plastics and shapes are good for strumming, some terrible for strumming but good for jazz-type picking.
However, most of the time these days I play with my fingers and don't use a pick at all.
posted by Grangousier at 1:02 AM on July 10, 2020 [1 favorite]
Last years, I also, on a whim, got a pick made out of an 1806 penny, which is very effective in a very limited number of use cases. And I have a box full of different types of picks for different kinds of things - some plastics and shapes are good for strumming, some terrible for strumming but good for jazz-type picking.
However, most of the time these days I play with my fingers and don't use a pick at all.
posted by Grangousier at 1:02 AM on July 10, 2020 [1 favorite]
I'm mostly playing ukulele nowadays, and if I need a pick, I use one under .5mm, a lot thinner than what I used for guitar.
I do usually carry one in my pocket (I recommend the watch pocket), but that's mainly because I have a too large gap between tooth #4 and tooth #5 that food gets stuck in, and a thin pick works.
Yes I know that's gross
posted by MtDewd at 6:27 AM on July 10, 2020
I do usually carry one in my pocket (I recommend the watch pocket), but that's mainly because I have a too large gap between tooth #4 and tooth #5 that food gets stuck in, and a thin pick works.
Yes I know that's gross
posted by MtDewd at 6:27 AM on July 10, 2020
Put this post together after I found a celluloid bookmark in the ground at work. Went down a bunch of twisty passages learning about celluloid and bumped into a lot of stuff about guitar picks.
I work in a public garden and find guitar picks fairly regularly. Now I’m going to have to check if any of them are vintage/interesting.
Today I found a Goodyears rubber button. No idea where that’s going to lead me.
posted by sciencegeek at 8:35 AM on July 10, 2020 [4 favorites]
I work in a public garden and find guitar picks fairly regularly. Now I’m going to have to check if any of them are vintage/interesting.
Today I found a Goodyears rubber button. No idea where that’s going to lead me.
posted by sciencegeek at 8:35 AM on July 10, 2020 [4 favorites]
Well, this thread made me poke around for interesting picks, and I found this page:
Hub Guitar - Complete Guide to Guitar Picks , which is certainly not the worst overview of the current-ish state of picks available.
My goto is 1.0mm Ultem/Ultex from Dunlop or Clayton.
Lately I've been trying the Dunlop "Primetone Flow", an Ultex variation. Oddly enough, their "hand-burnished" version (which is in a "standard" 351 size) seems to wear quite a bit faster than their regular Primetone Flow, which unfortunately is a bit stubbier and less comfortable for me.
I liked the Howling Monkey Tagua wood picks - nice tone and they kind of mold to your grip a bit from heat, but they wear down too fast to be practical.
Just got a tryout set of Chicken Picks, and while they're much thicker than my normal they're quite comfortable so far and seem durable.
posted by soundguy99 at 8:15 AM on July 23, 2020 [1 favorite]
Hub Guitar - Complete Guide to Guitar Picks , which is certainly not the worst overview of the current-ish state of picks available.
My goto is 1.0mm Ultem/Ultex from Dunlop or Clayton.
Lately I've been trying the Dunlop "Primetone Flow", an Ultex variation. Oddly enough, their "hand-burnished" version (which is in a "standard" 351 size) seems to wear quite a bit faster than their regular Primetone Flow, which unfortunately is a bit stubbier and less comfortable for me.
I liked the Howling Monkey Tagua wood picks - nice tone and they kind of mold to your grip a bit from heat, but they wear down too fast to be practical.
Just got a tryout set of Chicken Picks, and while they're much thicker than my normal they're quite comfortable so far and seem durable.
posted by soundguy99 at 8:15 AM on July 23, 2020 [1 favorite]
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