It will never be this good again
February 8, 2023 5:21 PM Subscribe
(I am not going to do it tonight, but if someone wants to start a Daria Fanfare, I'm into it.)
posted by edencosmic at 5:41 PM on February 8, 2023 [13 favorites]
posted by edencosmic at 5:41 PM on February 8, 2023 [13 favorites]
In my opinion that guy's argument was preoccupied with misplaced generational warfare, and had very little to do with the show itself beyond being an angle to pin the video on.
posted by Greg_Ace at 6:16 PM on February 8, 2023 [7 favorites]
posted by Greg_Ace at 6:16 PM on February 8, 2023 [7 favorites]
I wrote a whole thing about Adult Swim in its super early days and I brought up Daria as a show that dealt with some real things in a thoughtful way which a lot of the early Adult Swim stuff did not and some guy got SUPER MAD about it.
?? that guy? like I loved Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, Sealab 2021, etc. but I never thought they were pretending to be anything more real-world referential than funny absurdism
as for Daria I still need to RTFA but "Find some other way to feel. Then you won't feel sad" pops up in my head on a regular basis & I'm always like "wow that's actually kind of profound"
(also these paintball thingies hurt)
posted by taquito sunrise at 6:24 PM on February 8, 2023 [5 favorites]
?? that guy? like I loved Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, Sealab 2021, etc. but I never thought they were pretending to be anything more real-world referential than funny absurdism
as for Daria I still need to RTFA but "Find some other way to feel. Then you won't feel sad" pops up in my head on a regular basis & I'm always like "wow that's actually kind of profound"
(also these paintball thingies hurt)
posted by taquito sunrise at 6:24 PM on February 8, 2023 [5 favorites]
Every single generational quirk ever can be ascribed to pathologies that arise from having to constantly put up with rich people's bullshit.
posted by lefty lucky cat at 6:28 PM on February 8, 2023 [31 favorites]
posted by lefty lucky cat at 6:28 PM on February 8, 2023 [31 favorites]
I consider myself to be a cross between Daria and Penelope Garcia of Criminal Minds (look more like Daria, personality more like Daria, but Penelope's fashion sense). Had I ever spawned, I probably would have named a kid Daria. I did do Daria as a Halloween costume one year (dear god, I cannot wear those boots, I had blisters for a month after that) and nobody noticed, though.
I ignore the generational labels regarding myself, fuck that shit.
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:55 PM on February 8, 2023 [4 favorites]
I ignore the generational labels regarding myself, fuck that shit.
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:55 PM on February 8, 2023 [4 favorites]
What Daria says about the 90s (and today)
posted by jenfullmoon at 8:17 PM on February 8, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by jenfullmoon at 8:17 PM on February 8, 2023 [1 favorite]
> In my opinion that guy's argument was preoccupied with misplaced generational warfare, and had very little to do with the show itself beyond being an angle to pin the video on.
Yeah, I made it about a minute in and started thinking "why is this guy so fucking annoying". Then saw the channel name and remembered his "why is jack so angry?" videos. Bleh. I don't understand the appeal of youtube videos that are just tedious condescending lectures from an asshole.
posted by lkc at 11:44 PM on February 8, 2023 [6 favorites]
Yeah, I made it about a minute in and started thinking "why is this guy so fucking annoying". Then saw the channel name and remembered his "why is jack so angry?" videos. Bleh. I don't understand the appeal of youtube videos that are just tedious condescending lectures from an asshole.
posted by lkc at 11:44 PM on February 8, 2023 [6 favorites]
Shows how under rock I was in the 90s. Thanks for the heads up, just learning about Daria today!
posted by Meatbomb at 2:32 AM on February 9, 2023
posted by Meatbomb at 2:32 AM on February 9, 2023
As always, there is no such thing as "generations," but there are cultural cohorts that can be useful shorthand.
“Generations,” Joshua Glenn, Hi-Lo Brow, 02 March 2010
Even as one of the people being lectured to about, "What right do you have to be disaffected?" I thought the conclusion that the rug-pull happened before Daria aired and thus the culture of so-called Millennials starts from a point where there is no future was interesting.
posted by ob1quixote at 6:36 AM on February 9, 2023 [1 favorite]
“Generations,” Joshua Glenn, Hi-Lo Brow, 02 March 2010
Even as one of the people being lectured to about, "What right do you have to be disaffected?" I thought the conclusion that the rug-pull happened before Daria aired and thus the culture of so-called Millennials starts from a point where there is no future was interesting.
posted by ob1quixote at 6:36 AM on February 9, 2023 [1 favorite]
High school classmate: "Daria's probably your dream girl, isn't she?"
Me: "...probably..."
posted by brundlefly at 7:22 AM on February 9, 2023 [4 favorites]
Me: "...probably..."
posted by brundlefly at 7:22 AM on February 9, 2023 [4 favorites]
:::cries in 1983; is dismayed to learn that her cynical disaffected worldview is no longer an effective coping mechanism; refuses to change:::
edit: misspelled coping because story of my life
posted by sara is disenchanted at 7:44 AM on February 9, 2023 [2 favorites]
edit: misspelled coping because story of my life
posted by sara is disenchanted at 7:44 AM on February 9, 2023 [2 favorites]
Ok, I lived through that timeline, was relatively engulfed in pop culture, but I don't recall any of the things he mentioned in the intro. I also think that he piles some bad things together, attempts to define a generation by them, and then at the end, pile a bunch of other bad things together and build a sandwich I straight up don't agree with, as someone who lived through it. I'll be more clear: now is better than the '90s, and it's not even close.
As an aside, this was MTV's crap generation in my opinion, when they would put a show and play bits of cool music as bumpers as in Daria or specifically to mock (Bevis and Butthead) instead of just playing cool music. Look what mention it airs between: Total Request Live and that awful dating show with Jenny McCarthy, Singled Out. Compared to that, Daria was a breath of fresh air, just because it wasn't just actively punching you in the face with its stupidity. There weren't that many tv channels then.
posted by The_Vegetables at 9:57 AM on February 9, 2023 [5 favorites]
As an aside, this was MTV's crap generation in my opinion, when they would put a show and play bits of cool music as bumpers as in Daria or specifically to mock (Bevis and Butthead) instead of just playing cool music. Look what mention it airs between: Total Request Live and that awful dating show with Jenny McCarthy, Singled Out. Compared to that, Daria was a breath of fresh air, just because it wasn't just actively punching you in the face with its stupidity. There weren't that many tv channels then.
posted by The_Vegetables at 9:57 AM on February 9, 2023 [5 favorites]
The world is even sicker and sadder.
posted by aiq at 12:14 PM on February 9, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by aiq at 12:14 PM on February 9, 2023 [2 favorites]
I knew of Daria but I don't think I watched unless I was channel surfing and happened upon it for a couple of minutes before moving on. I do remember a scene where Beavis and Butthead see her, probably at school, and call her Diarrhea but can't be sure if that was in an episode of Beavis and Butthead or Daria.
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 12:30 PM on February 9, 2023
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 12:30 PM on February 9, 2023
It was Beavis and Butthead; Daria was a spinoff. At the beginning of Daria, her family has just moved to Lawndale from the town where B&B live.
posted by Monday, stony Monday at 12:44 PM on February 9, 2023 [1 favorite]
posted by Monday, stony Monday at 12:44 PM on February 9, 2023 [1 favorite]
As an aside, I always find it really childish to believe, like Daria states to her guidance counselor,
“My goal is not to wake up at 40 with the bitter realization that I’ve wasted my life in a job I hate because I was forced to decide on a career in my teens.”
vs having to be the person who works for MTV at 40 and endlessly programs Ridiculousness, day after day, and the kicker is they enjoy it. Which is worse?
Even sadder would be believing that your high school guidance counselor could elicit that much control over your life, instead of just spending 30 seconds making up something you are interested in at the time, even if it doesn't ultimately become your career. You could do that when you were 5. Remember?
I think that's why Daria can't be rebooted. Millennials have the empathy and world-weariness to know making a single decision in high school is not the end of the world, and that your guidance counselor is not your enemy, but someone else also just trying to get by.
Of course, it fits because Daria is still a child.
posted by The_Vegetables at 2:22 PM on February 9, 2023
“My goal is not to wake up at 40 with the bitter realization that I’ve wasted my life in a job I hate because I was forced to decide on a career in my teens.”
vs having to be the person who works for MTV at 40 and endlessly programs Ridiculousness, day after day, and the kicker is they enjoy it. Which is worse?
Even sadder would be believing that your high school guidance counselor could elicit that much control over your life, instead of just spending 30 seconds making up something you are interested in at the time, even if it doesn't ultimately become your career. You could do that when you were 5. Remember?
I think that's why Daria can't be rebooted. Millennials have the empathy and world-weariness to know making a single decision in high school is not the end of the world, and that your guidance counselor is not your enemy, but someone else also just trying to get by.
Of course, it fits because Daria is still a child.
posted by The_Vegetables at 2:22 PM on February 9, 2023
It's so weird in those little Daria clips to see her doing old-timey stuff like reading newspapers.
Along those lines, in those days if you were a misfit in a suburban school, your entire social network was the half-dozen other kids you knew who related to you. You still had to go out in the world and spend much of your time with normies with nothing to hide behind except for books and a Daria-esque 'tude. I mean, chat and bbs'es technically existed, but not in ways you could carry around as a shield like you can with a phone. Kids these days have the expectation of being able to easily exchange ideas with thousands or millions of other life-affirming people while completely ignoring the parts of the universe that don't fit their personal choices. I'd say it was a blessing, if it weren't for the fact that society as a whole is pretty cursed right now and finna get cursèder.
posted by xigxag at 11:23 PM on February 9, 2023 [3 favorites]
Along those lines, in those days if you were a misfit in a suburban school, your entire social network was the half-dozen other kids you knew who related to you. You still had to go out in the world and spend much of your time with normies with nothing to hide behind except for books and a Daria-esque 'tude. I mean, chat and bbs'es technically existed, but not in ways you could carry around as a shield like you can with a phone. Kids these days have the expectation of being able to easily exchange ideas with thousands or millions of other life-affirming people while completely ignoring the parts of the universe that don't fit their personal choices. I'd say it was a blessing, if it weren't for the fact that society as a whole is pretty cursed right now and finna get cursèder.
posted by xigxag at 11:23 PM on February 9, 2023 [3 favorites]
Metafilter: Just tedious condescending lectures from an asshole.
sorry
posted by xedrik at 8:43 AM on February 10, 2023 [3 favorites]
sorry
posted by xedrik at 8:43 AM on February 10, 2023 [3 favorites]
I am still in love with Jane Lane.
posted by Devoidoid at 10:29 AM on February 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by Devoidoid at 10:29 AM on February 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
Millennials do not get to claim Daria. Daria is clearly, clearly, CLEARLY Gen X.
posted by aabbbiee at 12:22 PM on February 10, 2023 [3 favorites]
posted by aabbbiee at 12:22 PM on February 10, 2023 [3 favorites]
She's like me: the Taint Generation. Neither Gen X nor Millenial.
posted by brundlefly at 12:27 PM on February 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
posted by brundlefly at 12:27 PM on February 10, 2023 [2 favorites]
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As a person born in 1980, I've definitely talked about the whole Xennial thing. I tend to have older Gen X friends and relate more to them than my younger millennial friends.
(I wrote a whole thing about Adult Swim in its super early days and I brought up Daria as a show that dealt with some real things in a thoughtful way which a lot of the early Adult Swim stuff did not and some guy got SUPER MAD about it. I wasn't even saying Daria was good -- just it had a story. I do think a lot of people just hated Daria because girls and stuff and I'm tired.)
posted by edencosmic at 5:39 PM on February 8, 2023 [21 favorites]