Behind the music
December 2, 2014 8:45 AM   Subscribe

20 years ago, Paul Oakenfold created the goa mix, which was perhaps the first dj mix that gained wide recognition for dj mixing as an artform on its own and introduced the UK to trance music. For the 20th anniversery of theEssential Mix, BBC asked him to record a dvd-style commentary track on the thought process behind its creation.
posted by empath (56 comments total) 43 users marked this as a favorite
 
Man, I miss clubbing - and Oakenfold was one of my favorites, along with Tiesto and... So many others.

Also, this is 20 now ?* I am so old.

*so is my son.
posted by Pogo_Fuzzybutt at 8:51 AM on December 2, 2014 [3 favorites]


"What song is next?"
"Is this song too fast?"
"OK, is it too slow now?
"OK, are they the same speed."
"OK, where is the first beat of the bar?"
"should I start this phrase when the other track's phrase shifts?"
"should I line up the drops?"
"Are the keys manageably coherent?"

not sure what else...
posted by Theta States at 8:52 AM on December 2, 2014 [2 favorites]


20 years ago help

I'm not really a huge Oaky fan but I feel like I must listen to this in a historical sense.
posted by poffin boffin at 8:55 AM on December 2, 2014


(the first link is without commentary, the second link has his commentary)
posted by empath at 8:58 AM on December 2, 2014


I was a radio DJ for 20 years, mixed disco in clubs, and by '94 had retired and was back at University.

I kept current on music and remember hearing this and thinking, "Yeesh, this is dance music kinda like disco for 17 year olds with unlimited energy...."

Live disco was doing seamless mixes from song to song...and if you did it right, none of the dancers realized the song was "over" and stayed on the floor. Keeping dancers on the floor for about 3 songs was a win. If you failed, people would realize "oh, the songs over let's go sit down."

This new electronic mix stuff just went on and on and on and on...seamlessly. Dancers would leave the floor exhausted...bop 'til you drop, indeed!

This kind of trance/dance stuff was mostly electronic (I dislike high BPM steady beat syn-drums to this day), live mixed, and way beyond my skill level. Props to Paul.
posted by CrowGoat at 9:08 AM on December 2, 2014 [2 favorites]


This kind of trance/dance stuff was mostly electronic (I dislike high BPM steady beat syn-drums to this day), live mixed, and way beyond my skill level.

The interesting thing here is that Oakenfold has never really mixed particularly well (in the sense of beatmatching). He slips all over the place on this mix, and doesn't even beatmatch all the tracks (which allows him to shift tempos a lot more than you can with normal mixes). It's mostly great because of careful track selection and choices of key for the records.
posted by empath at 9:14 AM on December 2, 2014 [4 favorites]


Nice one, bruva.
posted by phearlez at 9:22 AM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


/hurls mouse at 'Favorite'
posted by Celsius1414 at 9:25 AM on December 2, 2014 [2 favorites]


Nice. That Li Kwan track is still the dog's bollocks, even if he doesn't cue it in it well (IMHO).
posted by carter at 9:39 AM on December 2, 2014


One of his collaborators is named "Goa Gil." I knew him in the '60s in Marin County when he was a teenage rock band groupie named Gilbert Levy. At the time no one would have predicted this for him.
posted by Repack Rider at 9:48 AM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


My student co-op hosted Goa Gil’s birthday party in 1996. It was madness, we had like 700 people at CZ and Gil’s thing was that he’d play for ten hours straight. He used DAT tapes, so no attempt at matching beats was made, or necessary really at that tempo.

Diggadiggadiggadiggadiggadugga [/goatrance]
posted by migurski at 9:52 AM on December 2, 2014 [2 favorites]


oh yes oh yes
posted by So You're Saying These Are Pants? at 10:14 AM on December 2, 2014


In my search for an alternative source to re-listen to the Goa mix (work blocks many fun things), I found the Toronto Rave Mixtape Archive, which has four main download sections: Jungle / Hardcore; House / Techno / Breaks / Trance; Studio; and X-Static, aka "Toronto’s rave HQ." There are some more recent mixes from Oakey in the House+ section, plus plenty of Goa Mix-vintage mixes from others, including some "Dreams of Goa" mixes from 1995 or there-abouts.
posted by filthy light thief at 10:25 AM on December 2, 2014 [5 favorites]


I happened along to some Goa Gil parties in Goa at the beginning of the 90s. They were pretty intense.

This is a good commentary, it's neat to hear him talking about how he saw it all fitting together. I'm just getting to the Man With No Name, great cut again. (Teleport is also good, I don't think it's on this mix). If you like this stuff, some of the early key tracks/people on this were also connected in different ways with Dragonfly Records, one of the labels that brought Goa music into the UK.
posted by carter at 10:25 AM on December 2, 2014


dem 303s!
posted by MillMan at 10:37 AM on December 2, 2014


Sweeeeeeet.

Oakenfold's Tranceport is the 90s for me. Like if you put the 90s on one of those Shrinky Dink things and shrank it in the oven, this is what you'd get.
posted by dontjumplarry at 10:39 AM on December 2, 2014 [4 favorites]


I used to like to listen to Oakenfold and other trance music on long trips at night. I thought, high energy music, drum beats, etc, that'll keep me awake, right? About the third time I was woken up by crossing over the Botts Dots, I realized it's called "trance music" for a reason.
posted by happyroach at 10:44 AM on December 2, 2014 [2 favorites]


Hrm. I might accept that Oakenfold's mix was the first to break out, but Journeys By DJ (the first label dedicated to releasing only DJ mixes) released three very excellent DJ mix albums in 1993.
posted by hippybear at 10:48 AM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


This also makes me sad because I went to Goa recently, and the party scene is a bunch of package tourists shuffling awkwardly at Baudrillardian simulations of trance parties, mainly held at indoor clubs due to the noise curfews.
posted by dontjumplarry at 10:49 AM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


I used to love me some Oakie until I (finally) saw him live.

He was touring with Max Graham, for the release of the second Tranceport album (Max mixed it), so.. circa 2002? Something like that. Anyway, the event was so nuts that the promoters took over the nightclub next door and ran audio and video feeds downstairs so they could roughly triple the capacity for the event. (Probably a good thing given how much it cost to get Oakie to play then; no idea what he charges now).

Happily, I was in the club where he actually was. Some no-name up-and-comer-who-has-vanished started the night. Graham took over the decks and holy shitballs just tore the roof off the place. I mean seriously, the crowd went off. Absolutely bonkers dancing and laughing and just complete wildness. There were cameras set up over the decks broadcasting to video screens, and you could see that his hands basically never stopped moving--tweaking the mix and scratching and looping phrases and all sorts of stuff.

Then his last record spins out, big OMG IT IS TEH OAKENFOLDDDZZZZ from the MC, Oakie steps up to the decks and... splat. The energy of the night just fell. It seemed like there were two problems:

1) Looked like he had his set totally planned in advance--from what I could see, he literally went from front to back through his crate, put a record on the free turntable, matched tempo, cossfaded over four bars. Lather rinse repeat for two hours. And his set didn't follow on thematically at all from Graham's--it was just lacklustre.

2) He just didn't care. Spent more time swigging Heineken and flirting with Nelly Furtado in the booth than he did mixing, minus occasional token 'pump up the crowd' gestures.

Not a lot of dancing during his set. Lots of standing around, and not just during the breakdowns. Boring to the point where I could have a conversation with Max Graham in the middle of the dancefloor because nobody was moving. Terminally weird, and a huge contrast with Paul van Dyk a bit later that year (I think it was the same year--within a few months anyway) where everyone went utterly bananas from the moment he stepped onstage until he finally left.

That said... Tranceport is a perfect mix--and what dontjumplarry said. That and Voyage into Trance are probably the only mixes that old that I regularly listen to.

(Oh and sure maybe Max should have held back to not eclipse the headliner. but I read something recently from a FOAF DJ--a regular headliner IIRC--on Facebook that said, roughly, "Hey opening DJs? Don't hold back your sets. Bring it hard, and if the headliner can't keep up that's their problem not yours.")
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 10:58 AM on December 2, 2014 [4 favorites]


Yeah Oakenfold was absolutely amazing up until roughly 2001 and then just lost interest in the scene. I saw him in 1999 and 2000 and he absolutely blew me away, then he gradually became less and less interesting as the years went on. Superstar djs can tend to fall into a trap where people expect them to play the same genre or songs for gig after gig. It's really hard to get experimental when you have 3000 people off their tits on E who paid $50 to see you. They want epic trance, you can't decide to play deep house all of a sudden.

I talked to him around 2004 or so (a friend of mine was opening for him), and he could not have been more detached. I talked to him about some of the songs he played and he said he was sick of them and just played them because he was friends with the producer.

Really disappointing to see. It seems as if he's getting back into playing music he loves recently, so I don't know.

(Oh and sure maybe Max should have held back to not eclipse the headliner. but I read something recently from a FOAF DJ--a regular headliner IIRC--on Facebook that said, roughly, "Hey opening DJs? Don't hold back your sets. Bring it hard, and if the headliner can't keep up that's their problem not yours.")

I know from personal experience opening for a big name DJ and playing a peak-hour set, that while that may be true, it will stop you from getting more gigs opening for other DJs. I was fairly sure that I was never gonna play for that many people again, though, so I didn't care that much, but it did basically stop me from opening for another big name dj for a year.
posted by empath at 11:11 AM on December 2, 2014 [7 favorites]


Came here to snark, ended up pumping neck at laptop rhythmically.
posted by colie at 11:12 AM on December 2, 2014 [2 favorites]


Oh yeah I totally get that, I just really liked a headliner saying "Bring it, make me up my game" you know?

And counterpoint, Tiesto's moved into house AFAIK.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 11:13 AM on December 2, 2014


Yep, he's one of the few that made the transition well.
posted by empath at 11:20 AM on December 2, 2014


This is a tangent, but empath – what's it like to play alongside a big name DJ?

Is there a green room? Do they get riders? Like hot and cold running ketamine? Seriously though I've always been curious about how it sort of works backstage at a club and how that's different from a regular live music event. (And also, I guess, how orgiastic or in fact sedate it is.)
posted by dontjumplarry at 11:52 AM on December 2, 2014


dontjumplarry: I was there in 2009 and the fliers were advertising "headphone parties" due to new noise ordinances. I was 10 years too late.
posted by MillMan at 12:01 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


Reportedly, Oakie had hot and cold running coke and there always had to be some, uh, friendly girls around.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:01 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


Despite 30 years of being a fan of electronic music I've somehow never really gotten Oakenfold. Listening to this Goa Mix now I think I finally understand why. The music is all just one tempo, one emotion, for 2 hours. And it's very aggro. I've had to pause it like three times just to be able to concentrate on some web page I was reading. I'm having a hard time even writing this now.

I don't mean to be all "your favorite DJ sucks". I think the real problem is I never got into the whole club dance scene, I've never wanted to spend two hours amped up just listening to music flow through me. I'll stick to my nerdy Autechre and stuff.
posted by Nelson at 12:14 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


MillMan: there are, apparently, some actual, old school, Goa trance parties being held on the downlow for the cognoscenti. Not on the beach, though.

On the plus side there is an amazing (but expensive) vegan restaurant/guesthouse in Vagator now, so swings and roundabouts I guess.
posted by dontjumplarry at 12:16 PM on December 2, 2014


Yeah I have kinda believed for a long time that you're never going to fully 'get' (as in grok) certain kinds of music without experiencing them in context; reggae stoned off your ass with bass vibrating your whole body, higher-energy dance music with flashing lights and MDMA coursing through your veins, Nickelback and being jacked on meth and cheap beer, whatever.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:20 PM on December 2, 2014 [3 favorites]


I was there in 2009 and the fliers were advertising "headphone parties" due to new noise ordinances. I was 10 years too late.

Wait, this is actually a real thing? I thought Brooklyn Nine-Nine was making that up as a joke.
posted by zombieflanders at 12:32 PM on December 2, 2014


Reportedly, Oakie had hot and cold running coke and there always had to be some, uh, friendly girls around.

Nah. Just vodka, champagne, snacks. Nothing really major.

This is a tangent, but empath – what's it like to play alongside a big name DJ?

Is there a green room? Do they get riders? Like hot and cold running ketamine? Seriously though I've always been curious about how it sort of works backstage at a club and how that's different from a regular live music event. (And also, I guess, how orgiastic or in fact sedate it is.)


Okay so this is all based on when I was involved in the scene in the early 2000s, when it was not a big deal.

No green room usually. The way it works is if they have a gig friday night, they get picked up from the airport in the afternoon, get taken to the hotel where they sleep for a few hours, then have dinner with the promoter and their manager and whoever they need to meet or hang out with in town (dj and producer friends, mostly), and then sleep some more, until someone picks them up from the hotel for the gig. Usually they show up like 20 minutes before their set and go directly to the dj booth.

The really big name djs mostly specified what kind of hotel they can be put up in and that they have a driver, and really very little else. Celebrity DJs would have managers and handlers and an entourage to deal with, a huge guest list, and so on, but it was usually nothing very ridiculous.

DJs, believe it or tended to not perform while high or more than a little bit buzzed. I don't know if you've ever tried mixing while drunk, but it's fucking difficult. Can you beat tetris while you're hammered? You probably wouldn't be able to mix records either.

Which isn't to say that there isn't a lot of drug use going on around them, or after the shows. Somes headlining DJs will hang out and go to afterparties with promoters, which is when they'll start getting high, but that was actually a fairly rare occurrence. Usually they just go back to their hotel room and sleep. Keep in mind that they need to get on a plane in a few hours usually and have a gig the next night, need to work on albums, etc. They're busy, busy people. I once went back to the club owner's house with about a half dozen people and two famous djs and they just mixed 80s records and smoked weed for a couple of hours.

The real degenerates where the local djs and headliners who just started touring for the first time and haven't hit the wall yet. If you want to see complete debauchery, though, you don't go to the afterparty with the headliner, you go to the afterparty with local DJ No-name that opened for him and the random club kids that pass out flyers at the door. Those are the ones that have the best drugs and completely insane afterparties that go on for days.

All of that changes at big festivals like Sonar or BPM or Ultra, though. That's when the big djs all get fucked up for days at a time because they're all just kinda hanging out with each other all the time and don't have to travel for a week, so they have time to kill. I rented an apartment with a bunch of DJs at Sonar, and I don't think they were sober if they weren't sleeping (and they didn't sleep much)

Also for the big EDM shows with lights and sound and so on, like the full concert experience? I have no idea, but I imagine there's not a huge amount of difference between a Deadmau5 show and like, I dunno, Foo Fighters, these days. Theres' a big difference between traditional night club venues that have djs and rock club venues that book huge EDM shows. I've got no experience with the latter.
posted by empath at 12:33 PM on December 2, 2014 [5 favorites]


Nah. Just vodka, champagne, snacks. Nothing really major

Just going on what one of the promoters who regularly brought him to Guvernment told me circa 2005 (I think. Memories of that time period are hazy for some reason).

DJs, believe it or tended to not perform while high or more than a little bit buzzed.

Heh. Keoki what.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:37 PM on December 2, 2014


Well, there is 'what is on his rider' and 'hey, do you think you can find me some....'
posted by empath at 12:38 PM on December 2, 2014


Oh, derp. Yeah I was talking about the... verbal rider, I guess you'd call it.

Random Q, did you ever spin with Taucher? that dude was bonkers fun. One party I saw him at he was wearing a chainmail shirt and hanging upside down over the decks while spinning.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:41 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


Keep in mind that they need to get on a plane in a few hours usually and have a gig the next night, need to work on albums, etc.

I've been listening to Solarstone's weekly podcast on and off for a while, and every time he plugs his upcoming gigs the overwhelming impression I get is that the life of a jobbing DJ/producer involves a hell of a lot of travel time.

Tranceport for me too. Is the Goa mix commentary good?
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 12:43 PM on December 2, 2014


He was touring with Max Graham

I actually had no idea he was known outside Ottawa. I didn't like house back then so I never really appreciated it, but I spent many evenings/early mornings in Atomic while he played, waiting for my friends to come down so we could get breakfast and head home.
posted by Hoopo at 1:12 PM on December 2, 2014


Yeah Max blew up (briefly) all over when he did Transport (my bad I thought the spelling didn't change until later). Here's his mix cds at discogs.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 1:19 PM on December 2, 2014


Max Graham is touring with Ferry Corsten now, I saw them a year or so ago.
posted by empath at 1:49 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


Here's his mix cds at discogs.

Found one of his CDs at home over lunch, my wife has had it since the 90s (although it's listed as a "compilation" on Discogs for some reason even though it is all mixed together. The one with the carousel on it. 90s relic!
posted by Hoopo at 1:57 PM on December 2, 2014


Wait, this is actually a real thing? I thought Brooklyn Nine-Nine was making that up as a joke.

Yep, they were real.

Goa trance parties being held on the downlow for the cognoscenti

10 years too late, like I said.
posted by MillMan at 2:13 PM on December 2, 2014


I'll stick to my nerdy Autechre and stuff.

You've heard the 12-hour-long mix from a few years ago, yes?
posted by asterix at 2:58 PM on December 2, 2014 [2 favorites]


Yeah, that Autechre mix is interesting and weird and mostly I don't like it. So weird to hear them have a hip hop vibe. I've listened to it through maybe three times now and I see how it ties in to what they do in studio albums, but I like the studio albums better.
posted by Nelson at 3:47 PM on December 2, 2014


20 YEARS?! OH JFC.
posted by Space Kitty at 4:34 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


What is the Beeb thinking making Flash mandatory for viewing their musical adverts? up yours

I've somehow never really gotten Oakenfold ... Autechre
Me neither. Pass in favor of Sasha and Digweed.
posted by Twang at 4:43 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


My favorite 90s trance mix remains Dave Seaman (I think?) live at Lush in Belfast or Dublin on St. Patrick's Day. Even the shameless appropriation of MLK’s Dream speech juxtaposed with the crowd chanting “oi! Oi!” works.
posted by migurski at 5:38 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


Here it is. 2001 counts as 90s for trance purposes.
posted by migurski at 5:51 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


That I have a dream track was massive, massive in 2000 in the us. Different kind of context here, I think because house music clubs in the U.S. were notably integrated when, say, hip hop clubs were not.

My favorite MLK sample, though, was a track aimed at gay clubs that just sampled him saying "Black men and white men" over and over again.
posted by empath at 7:12 PM on December 2, 2014 [2 favorites]


Hah, damn thats a great way to sample MLK. Empath, thanks for sharing these memories. Looking forward to some uninterrupted listening when I carve out the time.
posted by So You're Saying These Are Pants? at 7:51 PM on December 2, 2014 [1 favorite]


Saw Oakie live a few times 1996 - 1998. He was OK, but there were far better DJs around. It felt like he was relying too much on dropping famous tracks into the set instead of building a great vibe from more obscure stuff. But his Perfecto Fluoro mixes are great.
posted by dowcrag at 4:14 AM on December 3, 2014 [1 favorite]


Yeah maybe that's the thing about Oakie.. he's not that great a live DJ. But he happened to be the first to get big, so he stayed famous. What he is, is a DJ who can create amazing but planned mixes. Again I'd contrast with PVD who (over here at least) was held on about the same mind-melting superstar level of DJdom, but is someone who can seriously rock the decks live.

For me, one of the biggest things about knowing whether there is someone who knows & cares about what they're doing behind the decks is watching when they hit their crates. Are they flicking back and forth looking for the right song for right now? Are they pulling out records because they have an idea of what they want to get to three tracks from now? That's someone who is paying attention to their crowd. I'm reminded of a happy hardcore DJ I saw here (no judgement please, I was young and hiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh) who got in all kinds of internet raver shit because someone snapped a photo of his cheatsheet--not even joking, the 12 or 14 songs he was going to play, where to set the tempo on the CD decks, how long to play them for. Sorry the photo seems to be gone. And hah, I'd totally forgotten what an utter shitshow that party was!

Also, I think that this (mp3 link) may well be the set I was talking about earlier. Oakenfold only played Tonic once AFAIK and it was the night with Max Graham. Gonna have a listen to see if the set aged any better. (From this site which might be fun for a lot of people here. From there, this may have been the first time I heard Tiesto live, at a party called Wintergalactic that was pretty awesome. Annoying story.. they gave out these funky snowflake-shaped CDs as part of the initial wave of flyers... that turned out to be BACKSTAGE PASSES YOU JERKS. Didn't find out until after. If memory serves, this set by John 00 Fleming at WEMF was intense--a couple thousand sweaty ravers under the stars in Bobcaygeon just going bananas. ).

It felt like he was relying too much on dropping famous tracks into the set instead of building a great vibe from more obscure stuff.

A friend of mine called this Tiestoitis. Not difficult to get a crowd amped when you play nothing but anthems. Not that I'm complaining, exactly; I remember my brain leaking out my ears the first time I heard his remix of Silence played out on the dancefloor (by himself).
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 5:26 AM on December 3, 2014


...and yeah, I'm 50 minutes into the set, and yep, boring. Some really great tracks, but no real peaks and valleys. Monotonous. And hah! At 52:38ish, whoopsie let me just fuck with the pitch bend for a moment.

But nothing exciting. For comparison, here's what Max Graham caned out.

And that's Nelly Furtado singing (badly; drunkenly?) over Rendezvous right before some awful spinning by DJ Bootsinadryer mixing into the next track.

And yet you listen to VIT or Tranceport or the Silver mix or whatever, and they're nicely crafted sets.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 6:24 AM on December 3, 2014


Most DJs plan their sets out to some extent, especially when you're playing short (1-2 hour sets) at big shows. When I was using vinyl, I could only bring about 50 records and there's only so many ways you can combine them that actually work. I'd basically split them up into mini-sets of like 5-6 songs that mostly went together, with some transitions between those and the next mini-set. If something wasn't working, I'd cut a mini-set short and just transition to the next part of the set. DJing for a huge crowd is fucking stressful as shit and you can't be up there thinking 'oh my god what do i play next'. I also had cheat sheets when I was using CDs, because I burned CDs per set, just because I liked having them organized so I could leave two cds in the mixers and just go back and forth without having to go back into my CD book all the time.

When you're playing 4-5 hour sets at smaller places or house parties or whatever, you can get more creative, but not really at super clubs.

John 00 Fleming

J00F is a super-nice guy. We actually booked him to play a gig at a little bar in the suburbs of virginia because he couldn't get a decent booking in DC and he was touring anyway. He rocked this shit out of it, even though there were only like 300 people there, and hung out with everyone afterwards at a diner down the street. He also did a lot to help young producers with his blog and website.

I have a mix online from like 2004 or 2005 when I was still playing out regularly. You can hear the Oakenfold nfluence pretty clearly, I think. He was basically my model for how to build a set.
posted by empath at 6:44 AM on December 3, 2014 [1 favorite]


Oh yeah, I know you can't just swipe 50 records off your shelf at random and hope for the best. But somehow I doubt your cheatsheets included:

1 - Trackname - 150bpm - mix out at 6:17
2 - Trackname - 152bpm mix in at 2:10 out at 8:04

... or whatever. That's basically what Tenshi had on his sheet. I mean, hand me (and the closest I've ever come to DJing is fucking around on an old roommate's decks--Tech 12s and they were too much fun) that sheet and his CD's and I'd be able to spin the exact same set he did. You've got an idea but you move with the moment, right?

Miss Thunderpussy is probably the best seat of the pants DJ I've heard. Showed up to my friend's record shop when she was in town, picked up a couple dozen records and then went off to 1groove.com and spun a set out of them, played many of the same records that night at a small party. Used her main crate for the big room on Saturday, granted, which somehow dropped a remix of Sunglasses at Night into the middle of some blistering German hard trance. And it was gooooooooood.

I've loved all the mixes you've put on Soundcloud, empath. Many ear noms!
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 6:57 AM on December 3, 2014


I'm listening to that Oakenfold Tonic session, and...oh god, the singing! Just do yourself a favor and listen to the section between 1:22:20 and 1:22:55. Just...amazing.
posted by Bugbread at 9:11 PM on December 3, 2014


I know right? The weirdest thing is Furtado used to show up to the freestyle nights at the bar I worked at back in Victoria, and she would kill it on a regular basis.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 10:18 PM on December 3, 2014


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