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I saw Hamilton, so now I'm going to orphan my son (McSweeney's)
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I read an article about Hamilton today
Ugh, I read the same one and I am STILL NOT DONE ROLLING MY EYES.
The McSweeney's article was funny and charming.
posted by kate blank at 1:27 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
Ugh, I read the same one and I am STILL NOT DONE ROLLING MY EYES.
The McSweeney's article was funny and charming.
posted by kate blank at 1:27 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
The article by the Burr scholar is also funny, in a hate-read way. I liked the McSweeney's article too.
posted by jeather at 1:31 PM on March 24, 2016
posted by jeather at 1:31 PM on March 24, 2016
That article to which jeather linked is...odd. The author does not appear to be overly familiar with "Hamilton."
"Which guy do you want to be? A shrunken Jefferson, or the dashing and daring Hamilton who, like Peter Pan, never appears to grow up?"
Shrunken? Daveed fucking Diggs channeling Morris Day is "shrunken?"
The musical puts feminist words in the mouth of Elizabeth Hamilton, presuming she wanted to tell Jefferson to rewrite the Declaration to include women. This is absurd. In truth, Aaron Burr was far ahead of Hamilton, Jefferson, and Adams in advancing the ideas of English writer Mary Wollstonecraft, the leading Enlightenment advocate of women’s rights.
First of all, wrong sister, that was Angelica, not Elizabeth. Second of all, Angelica's proto-feminist leanings and later correspondence with and about Jefferson are well-documented. Thirdly, the fact that Aaron Burr was more progressive on women's rights than Hamilton, Jefferson, and Adams...has....WTF to do with Angelica Schuyler Church's opinions on the matter?
posted by desuetude at 1:38 PM on March 24, 2016 [21 favorites]
"Which guy do you want to be? A shrunken Jefferson, or the dashing and daring Hamilton who, like Peter Pan, never appears to grow up?"
Shrunken? Daveed fucking Diggs channeling Morris Day is "shrunken?"
The musical puts feminist words in the mouth of Elizabeth Hamilton, presuming she wanted to tell Jefferson to rewrite the Declaration to include women. This is absurd. In truth, Aaron Burr was far ahead of Hamilton, Jefferson, and Adams in advancing the ideas of English writer Mary Wollstonecraft, the leading Enlightenment advocate of women’s rights.
First of all, wrong sister, that was Angelica, not Elizabeth. Second of all, Angelica's proto-feminist leanings and later correspondence with and about Jefferson are well-documented. Thirdly, the fact that Aaron Burr was more progressive on women's rights than Hamilton, Jefferson, and Adams...has....WTF to do with Angelica Schuyler Church's opinions on the matter?
posted by desuetude at 1:38 PM on March 24, 2016 [21 favorites]
The article by the Burr scholar is also funny, in a hate-read way.
Yes she complains that Burr is REDUCED TO A VILLAIN and it's like okay BUT HE DID LITERALLY SHOOT AND KILL THE TITLE CHARACTER. She also complains that BOTH Jefferson AND Adams were old and jowly in real life. Which, yes, I know Thomas Jefferson literally does not look like Daveed Diggs but you need to let me pretend he does.
posted by kate blank at 1:39 PM on March 24, 2016 [23 favorites]
Yes she complains that Burr is REDUCED TO A VILLAIN and it's like okay BUT HE DID LITERALLY SHOOT AND KILL THE TITLE CHARACTER. She also complains that BOTH Jefferson AND Adams were old and jowly in real life. Which, yes, I know Thomas Jefferson literally does not look like Daveed Diggs but you need to let me pretend he does.
posted by kate blank at 1:39 PM on March 24, 2016 [23 favorites]
Not to continue the slight derail, but I'm not sure that Burr scholar was watching the same musical I was watching. Or wasn't paying very close attention (no, it wasn't Elizabeth Hamilton who wanted to talk to Jefferson in the piece, it was Angelica; and the musical both mentions his service under Richard Montgomery, and Montgomery's death, along with references to his rising through the ranks quicker than Hamilton; as for the actual dual, the staging is somewhat ambiguous as to whether or not Burr sees/registers Hamilton raising his gun in the air before he shoots *and* acknowledges Hamilton wearing his glasses at the duel-- "Why, if not to take deadly aim??" )...
posted by damayanti at 1:41 PM on March 24, 2016
posted by damayanti at 1:41 PM on March 24, 2016
Original link for the article.
#teamburr
posted by betweenthebars at 1:44 PM on March 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
#teamburr
posted by betweenthebars at 1:44 PM on March 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
Yes she complains that Burr is REDUCED TO A VILLAIN and it's like okay BUT HE DID LITERALLY SHOOT AND KILL THE TITLE CHARACTER.
Also, I don't know how anyone could think that Burr is the villain of Hamilton - one of the play's biggest strengths how it makes a nuanced, complex, sympathetic character out of "the villain in your history".
Plus, TBH, if she didn't like how Hamilton painted Burr she must have really fucking hated the Chernow book.
posted by Itaxpica at 1:49 PM on March 24, 2016 [8 favorites]
Also, I don't know how anyone could think that Burr is the villain of Hamilton - one of the play's biggest strengths how it makes a nuanced, complex, sympathetic character out of "the villain in your history".
Plus, TBH, if she didn't like how Hamilton painted Burr she must have really fucking hated the Chernow book.
posted by Itaxpica at 1:49 PM on March 24, 2016 [8 favorites]
Not to continue the slight derail, but I'm not sure that Burr scholar was watching the same musical I was watching.
Ditto on not wanting to continue the slight derail but also she says "The men he later commanded admired him" about Burr as if that was somehow not conveyed. Dude, the musical conveys that HAMILTON admired him deeply.
I really loved the line in the actual Hamilton article we're discussing when the author is like sure, he could also turn into Burr, but "...have you seen Leslie Odom Jr.’s portrayal of history’s most misunderstood man? Look, if my son becomes a well-regarded lawyer who can also sing and rap and dance with that kind of passion, who the hell am I to complain?" Hilarious.
posted by kate blank at 1:54 PM on March 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
Ditto on not wanting to continue the slight derail but also she says "The men he later commanded admired him" about Burr as if that was somehow not conveyed. Dude, the musical conveys that HAMILTON admired him deeply.
I really loved the line in the actual Hamilton article we're discussing when the author is like sure, he could also turn into Burr, but "...have you seen Leslie Odom Jr.’s portrayal of history’s most misunderstood man? Look, if my son becomes a well-regarded lawyer who can also sing and rap and dance with that kind of passion, who the hell am I to complain?" Hilarious.
posted by kate blank at 1:54 PM on March 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
I'm willing to pay Leslie Odom, Jr. a lot of money to come and sing Wait For It to me every night as I fall asleep, still a graduate student who is not falling behind but lying in wait!
posted by ChuraChura at 1:59 PM on March 24, 2016 [19 favorites]
posted by ChuraChura at 1:59 PM on March 24, 2016 [19 favorites]
I have a deep love for Alexander Hamilton because I got stuck arguing his position in a debate in my American History class in a Canadian High School. I got stuck with his side because I was an awful student and my absences occasionally equaled my test percentages (and I was not absent all that much). I had to debate the blond haired, blue eyed golden boy of the school who had the winning smile. He got to pick and foolishly chose Thomas Jefferson.
I credit my one and only high school academic shining moment to Alex Hamilton and his largely victorious vision for America. I still sometimes revel in it.
However, after that debate the trajectory for the golden boy was never as stellar and I feel like the kid who jostled the branch in A Separate Peace.
On a related note the statue of Alexander Hamilton in Lincoln Park has been removed so it can dipped in even more gold. Probably in preparation for the show coming to Chicago. Or maybe because Hamilton just deserves it.
posted by srboisvert at 2:09 PM on March 24, 2016 [15 favorites]
I credit my one and only high school academic shining moment to Alex Hamilton and his largely victorious vision for America. I still sometimes revel in it.
However, after that debate the trajectory for the golden boy was never as stellar and I feel like the kid who jostled the branch in A Separate Peace.
On a related note the statue of Alexander Hamilton in Lincoln Park has been removed so it can dipped in even more gold. Probably in preparation for the show coming to Chicago. Or maybe because Hamilton just deserves it.
posted by srboisvert at 2:09 PM on March 24, 2016 [15 favorites]
You can but it comes witg Daveed Diggs busting into your room to wake you up as EVERYONE'S FAVORITE FIGHTIN' FRENCHMAN!
It's an expensive service but ... they get the job done.
posted by cmfletcher at 2:10 PM on March 24, 2016 [13 favorites]
It's an expensive service but ... they get the job done.
posted by cmfletcher at 2:10 PM on March 24, 2016 [13 favorites]
I for one am lucky my parents never got to see Hamilton... or... thank god I didn't eat my vegetables.
I'm not sure if I took the right message from a McSweeney's post... which is hard, because it is a challenge to be obtuse enough to miss intentionally.
posted by Nanukthedog at 2:10 PM on March 24, 2016
I'm not sure if I took the right message from a McSweeney's post... which is hard, because it is a challenge to be obtuse enough to miss intentionally.
posted by Nanukthedog at 2:10 PM on March 24, 2016
You can but it comes witg Daveed Diggs busting into your room to wake you up as EVERYONE'S FAVORITE FIGHTIN' FRENCHMAN!
Is that supposed to be anything but a bonus?
posted by jeather at 2:19 PM on March 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
Is that supposed to be anything but a bonus?
posted by jeather at 2:19 PM on March 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
Shrunken? Daveed fucking Diggs channeling Morris Day is "shrunken?"
To be fair: that line in the article is contrasting Hamilton's "dashing and handsome" Hamilton to the real "isn’t an ounce of glamor" life mask of Jefferson. It's suggesting that Hamilton's portrayal of the founders is more dramatic, sexy, alluring than they were real life. (And OF COURSE it is IT'S A MUSICAL.)
It was this line that struck me more as "missing the point":
In Hamilton, Burr is a mere prop, a villainous foil, his personality an overblown caricature.
The what now? Burr's absolutely central to the play, as much a principal as Hamilton is; maybe more so because he also takes the role of narrator.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 2:30 PM on March 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
To be fair: that line in the article is contrasting Hamilton's "dashing and handsome" Hamilton to the real "isn’t an ounce of glamor" life mask of Jefferson. It's suggesting that Hamilton's portrayal of the founders is more dramatic, sexy, alluring than they were real life. (And OF COURSE it is IT'S A MUSICAL.)
It was this line that struck me more as "missing the point":
In Hamilton, Burr is a mere prop, a villainous foil, his personality an overblown caricature.
The what now? Burr's absolutely central to the play, as much a principal as Hamilton is; maybe more so because he also takes the role of narrator.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 2:30 PM on March 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
In Hamilton, Burr is a mere prop, a villainous foil, his personality an overblown caricature.
Yeah, you know, like Iago in Othello. /sarcasm
posted by Wretch729 at 2:36 PM on March 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
Yeah, you know, like Iago in Othello. /sarcasm
posted by Wretch729 at 2:36 PM on March 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
No one watching Hamilton will want to be Burr, one of the most interesting figures of early American history.
...several hundred plays of "Wait For It" beg to differ.
posted by redsparkler at 2:41 PM on March 24, 2016 [13 favorites]
...several hundred plays of "Wait For It" beg to differ.
posted by redsparkler at 2:41 PM on March 24, 2016 [13 favorites]
My son has been mainlining Hamilton for a few weeks and when he was assigned a report for history class, he chose....Burr. So at least some impressionable young men are walking away from the musical hungry for more of ol' Aaron.
posted by Biblio at 2:58 PM on March 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Biblio at 2:58 PM on March 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
You can but it comes witg Daveed Diggs busting into your room to wake you up as EVERYONE'S FAVORITE FIGHTIN' FRENCHMAN!
Unfortunately, hiring HERCULES MULLIGAN: A TAILOR SPYING ON THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT is well outside of my price range.
posted by zachlipton at 3:10 PM on March 24, 2016 [8 favorites]
Unfortunately, hiring HERCULES MULLIGAN: A TAILOR SPYING ON THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT is well outside of my price range.
posted by zachlipton at 3:10 PM on March 24, 2016 [8 favorites]
Yeah, I'm seeing basically nothing wrong with Daveed Diggs waking me up in the morning enthusiastically after Leslie Odom, Jr. puts me to bed soothingly. And then maybe Chris Jackson would come be my moral center while I'm grading student work?
posted by ChuraChura at 3:14 PM on March 24, 2016 [13 favorites]
posted by ChuraChura at 3:14 PM on March 24, 2016 [13 favorites]
I was going to post this as a FPP but missed the moment (I threw away my shot), so I'm just going to put this here since it seems to be the Hamilton Thread of the Week:
Lin-Manuel Miranda and Emma Watson are insanely adorable and charismatic together (they sort the Hamilton characters into Hogwarts houses! Emma Watson beat-boxes! They talk about feminism! It's a delight).
posted by lunasol at 3:52 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
Lin-Manuel Miranda and Emma Watson are insanely adorable and charismatic together (they sort the Hamilton characters into Hogwarts houses! Emma Watson beat-boxes! They talk about feminism! It's a delight).
posted by lunasol at 3:52 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
Similarly, this interview with LMM on Another Round was dangerously charming and interesting.
posted by you're a kitty! at 3:57 PM on March 24, 2016
posted by you're a kitty! at 3:57 PM on March 24, 2016
Also the supposed Aaron Burr scholar doesn't bother pointing out that he only founded the Manhattan Bank because he lied and told everyone it was a clean water company, which Hamilton was actually understandably pissed about. (It's true!)
Oh, and Hamilton was legitimately sexy as fuck and way more attractive than LMM. Take a look at your ten dollar founding father sometime. I'd hit it.
posted by corb at 4:06 PM on March 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
Oh, and Hamilton was legitimately sexy as fuck and way more attractive than LMM. Take a look at your ten dollar founding father sometime. I'd hit it.
posted by corb at 4:06 PM on March 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
Hamilton was legitimately sexy as fuck and way more attractive than LMM.
clearly you haven't watched that emma watson interview. it's shattering.
posted by you're a kitty! at 4:12 PM on March 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
clearly you haven't watched that emma watson interview. it's shattering.
posted by you're a kitty! at 4:12 PM on March 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
I agree, you're a kitty!-- that moment where LMM utterly sincerely declares himself to be a feminist-- hot damn. *fans self*
posted by BlueJae at 4:19 PM on March 24, 2016
posted by BlueJae at 4:19 PM on March 24, 2016
I have been close enough to the stage to be eye-fucked by LMM during the Cabinet battle - he is in no way unattractive. I'm saying that hot as he is, Hamilton was hotter - that LMM is in no way "cheating" by sexing up Hamilton.
posted by corb at 4:22 PM on March 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by corb at 4:22 PM on March 24, 2016 [7 favorites]
LMM is indeed quite a catch on his own, but I submit to you this scholarly article entitled The Erotic Charisma of Alexander Hamilton.
posted by yasaman at 4:22 PM on March 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by yasaman at 4:22 PM on March 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
I'm digging this universe that ChuraChura's building. Hey, do you need a roommate?
posted by librarina at 4:24 PM on March 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by librarina at 4:24 PM on March 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
Corb, yasaman, I think the only way to resolve this debate is a rap battle between LMM and the actual Alexander Hamilton. (Anyone have a time machine?)
posted by BlueJae at 4:38 PM on March 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by BlueJae at 4:38 PM on March 24, 2016 [1 favorite]
Seriously, the moment when she asks if he's a feminist and he says "oh yeah" in a way that is both heartfelt and "do I even need to say this?" is so great. I plotzed.
posted by lunasol at 4:40 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by lunasol at 4:40 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
The things I knew about Alexander Hamilton before Hamilton: $10 bill guy. Something something Treasury? And: the sexy Founding Father.
posted by epersonae at 4:51 PM on March 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by epersonae at 4:51 PM on March 24, 2016 [2 favorites]
Laurens was smoldering too. I neither read nor write slashfic, but, *whew*.
posted by matildaben at 5:54 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by matildaben at 5:54 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
The Erotic Charisma of Alexander Hamilton
Oh my God. Please let this article's author, "Caroline V. Hamilton," be one of Alexander Hamilton's descendants. Let me have this one thing, 2016.
posted by valrus at 6:09 PM on March 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
Oh my God. Please let this article's author, "Caroline V. Hamilton," be one of Alexander Hamilton's descendants. Let me have this one thing, 2016.
posted by valrus at 6:09 PM on March 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
I think it's fair to say that folks who invest enough time to research and write biographies tend to develop charitable views of their subject. I've not read Isenberg but her article suggests that this is the case. I did read Milton Lomask's 2 volume bio of Burr in the early 80s and he certainly was sympathetic to Burr. I discovered an error which bordered on a slur (well, it actually it was a slur) and I wrote the publisher in the hopes that it would get passed on to Lomask. I never heard back so I don't know if he ever got my letter or not.
Historians aren't immune. A lack of historical rigor occasionally applies to them, too.
posted by CincyBlues at 7:25 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
Historians aren't immune. A lack of historical rigor occasionally applies to them, too.
posted by CincyBlues at 7:25 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
Corb, yasaman, I think the only way to resolve this debate is a rap battle between LMM and the actual Alexander Hamilton. (Anyone have a time machine?)
Or Daveed Diggs and Lafayette. Two rounds: one in French, one in English. In the event of a tie...?
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 7:42 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
Or Daveed Diggs and Lafayette. Two rounds: one in French, one in English. In the event of a tie...?
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 7:42 PM on March 24, 2016 [3 favorites]
Yay, here's where I get to link to this Radiolab episode, where LMM and co. rap about the pathetic love life of a British beetle.
posted by of strange foe at 7:44 PM on March 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by of strange foe at 7:44 PM on March 24, 2016 [6 favorites]
Yay, here's where I get to link to this Radiolab episode, where LMM and co. rap about the pathetic love life of a British beetle.
1.) Listening now.
2.) Please please please let it be about dung beetles:
I'm not throwing away my shit
I'm not throwing away my shit
Hey yo, I'm just like my country
I'm young scrappy and hungry
I'm not throwing away my shit
3.) Spoiler: It's not about dung beetles. Still good, though.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 8:05 PM on March 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
1.) Listening now.
2.) Please please please let it be about dung beetles:
I'm not throwing away my shit
I'm not throwing away my shit
Hey yo, I'm just like my country
I'm young scrappy and hungry
I'm not throwing away my shit
3.) Spoiler: It's not about dung beetles. Still good, though.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 8:05 PM on March 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
I'll see your dung beetle rap and raise you 21 Chump Street, the tragic tale of a lovesick teen boy and an undercover cop, as reported by This American Life and musical-ized by LMM.
posted by Flannery Culp at 8:34 PM on March 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by Flannery Culp at 8:34 PM on March 24, 2016 [5 favorites]
"I think it's fair to say that folks who invest enough time to research and write biographies tend to develop charitable views of their subject."
I have been reading presidential and Hamilton-related biographies of late (pardon the self-link) and I totally think that's the case. Seriously, the book I read about Monroe (my review not done yet) was total fanboy.
By contrast, I read a biography about Charles Lee, who mostly just sounds like a real ass, but that biographer got fascinated by him even though, well, he's Charles Lee, a man who didn't bathe, sold out his army, boinked dirty hookers, bailed in battle, lied a lot....
Let's face it, if you spend months to years writing about someone, you find yourself being at least somewhat fond of them despite their flaws out of self-preservation.
posted by jenfullmoon at 11:33 PM on March 24, 2016
I have been reading presidential and Hamilton-related biographies of late (pardon the self-link) and I totally think that's the case. Seriously, the book I read about Monroe (my review not done yet) was total fanboy.
By contrast, I read a biography about Charles Lee, who mostly just sounds like a real ass, but that biographer got fascinated by him even though, well, he's Charles Lee, a man who didn't bathe, sold out his army, boinked dirty hookers, bailed in battle, lied a lot....
Let's face it, if you spend months to years writing about someone, you find yourself being at least somewhat fond of them despite their flaws out of self-preservation.
posted by jenfullmoon at 11:33 PM on March 24, 2016
I grew up in Morristown and went to Alexander Hamilton Elementary School and was steeped in Hamiltonia from an early age; you couldn't avoid it. I've just started reading the Chernow book and remembering stuff that I learned forty years ago in fifth grade or so.
posted by octothorpe at 5:03 AM on March 25, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by octothorpe at 5:03 AM on March 25, 2016 [1 favorite]
> To be fair: that line in the article is contrasting Hamilton's "dashing and handsome" Hamilton to the real "isn’t an ounce of glamor" life mask of Jefferson.
Okay. But that's also weird. Is the author also cranky that portraits and sculptures made during Hamilton's life demonstrate that he was a pretty handsome dude, moreso than Jefferson?
posted by desuetude at 6:46 AM on March 25, 2016 [1 favorite]
Okay. But that's also weird. Is the author also cranky that portraits and sculptures made during Hamilton's life demonstrate that he was a pretty handsome dude, moreso than Jefferson?
posted by desuetude at 6:46 AM on March 25, 2016 [1 favorite]
the statue of Alexander Hamilton in Lincoln Park has been removed so it can dipped in even more gold.
Fun fact: that statue used to be part of a big monument complex dominated by an 78-foot monolith of red granite. (This was actually a comedown from the original plans for the Alexander Hamilton Memorial, which called for a colossal ring of marble supported on four 80-foot pillars.)
posted by Iridic at 8:16 AM on March 25, 2016
Fun fact: that statue used to be part of a big monument complex dominated by an 78-foot monolith of red granite. (This was actually a comedown from the original plans for the Alexander Hamilton Memorial, which called for a colossal ring of marble supported on four 80-foot pillars.)
posted by Iridic at 8:16 AM on March 25, 2016
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the academic's goofy take on Hamilton bizarre and counterfactual. What a humorless, joyless weirdo. And what kind of nerve does it take to write a piece like that and get meaningful aspects of the show wrong -- not the least of which is the hilariously reductive notion that Miranda's version of Burr is anything as simple as a villain.
I wonder, is that writer also aware that all those Founders were actually white dudes? Given the rest of the piece, it's kind of amazing she doesn't whine about that, too.
As for the McSweeney's piece, I am, in this case as in nearly all cases where they are concerned, reminded of a particular Achewood comic.
posted by uberchet at 10:26 AM on March 25, 2016 [2 favorites]
I wonder, is that writer also aware that all those Founders were actually white dudes? Given the rest of the piece, it's kind of amazing she doesn't whine about that, too.
As for the McSweeney's piece, I am, in this case as in nearly all cases where they are concerned, reminded of a particular Achewood comic.
posted by uberchet at 10:26 AM on March 25, 2016 [2 favorites]
That is the finest dressed film crew I've ever seen at 1:20.
posted by flyingfox at 12:35 PM on March 25, 2016
posted by flyingfox at 12:35 PM on March 25, 2016
Over on Twitter, asavage just had a very interesting idea.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 11:22 AM on April 1, 2016
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 11:22 AM on April 1, 2016
Is this still the current Hamiltrash thread? Because this gender-flipped Schuyler Sisters is amazing. (via the Toast link roundup)
posted by Wretch729 at 7:57 AM on April 11, 2016
posted by Wretch729 at 7:57 AM on April 11, 2016
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I was shocked because I had always been told that musicals were peer-reviewed for historical accuracy, but I learned something new today.
posted by jeather at 1:21 PM on March 24, 2016 [26 favorites]