Yeah, this is pretty much all this thread's gonna have. posted by dirigibleman at 7:35 PM on April 22
If you have left missiles on your enemy's island base, it's not decommisioned, now is it? posted by boo_radley at 7:38 PM on April 22
Can't watch this video where I am. :( posted by Joseph Gurl at 7:38 PM on April 22
Pork chop sandwiches!
Oh shit! Get the fuck out of here! What are you doing! Go! Get the fuck out of here you stupid idiot! Fuck, we're all dead! Get the fuck out! posted by Dia Nomou Nomo Apethanon at 7:41 PM on April 22 [9 favorites has favorites]
As a Canadian who grew up constantly bombarded by American television all I can say is "what the fuck internet, where's my GI Joe?" posted by furtive at 7:51 PM on April 22
Dude did some nice work on that clip. I used to race through my homework so I could watch G.I. Joe on weekday afternoons. I want to see more. posted by emelenjr at 7:57 PM on April 22
juv3nal, the "Yo" link has your timeline straight from the horse's mouth. posted by boo_radley at 8:23 PM on April 22
MetaFilter: Built to G.I. Joe standards. posted by clearly at 8:34 PM on April 22
Gack! Warren Ellis?! Oh my. And he had no prior knowledge of the series, so he could umm... affect dramatic change with impunity. Nice! No spoils :p :) posted by cavalier at 8:38 PM on April 22
Yeah, that was pretty good. Cobra Commander not being a bumbling idiot is actually far more interesting. He's way better than Serpentor was. posted by dammitjim at 8:53 PM on April 22 [1 favorite has favorites]
This reminds me of the Batman/Superman series a while back, only worse. The animation and voicing are bad. New Joe vs old Joe is like Gobots vs Transformers. posted by Flex1970 at 10:47 PM on April 22
I've only watched the first episode, or webisode or whatever, but this... ain't that great.
I mean, the first thing I noticed was when one of the joes says "Our satellites are down. All of them. Anything that operates with satellites is useless to us. Plus, something's happening in new york." I wanted Duke to say "We're on a disabled ship in the middle of the ocean, how do you know something's happening in New York?" and then be replied to with "The Satellite feed said that... ah! You got me!"
Plus, an international terrorist organization sends a video message to the UN threatening to blow up cities until it gets control of the world's governments? Really? I didn't realize that, during all that research he'd done to learn about G.I. Joe, he'd also been researching the plot to every shitty spy movie and tv show every made. Look, I love the Pink Panther, too, but that doesn't mean Cobra Commander should be Chief Inspector Dreyfus.
That was another moment when alternate dialog came to me. After Cobra Commander made his demands, one of the UN delegates should have yelled out "We're the United Nations! This is like demanding control of a restaurant from the bus boy!"
So, before I invest any time into this, is it any good? posted by Eideteker at 8:39 AM on April 23
As a child of the 80s, I enjoyed it. Yeah, the dialogue is often awkward, and there is plenty of goofy plot with holes... but SNAKE EYES KICKING COBRA ASS.
It's a re-do of the original cartoon, without the kid-safe-everyone-has-a-parachute stuff. posted by Fleebnork at 8:56 AM on April 23
shmegegge--you never watched the cartoons as a kid, did you? posted by Squid Voltaire at 9:31 AM on April 23
Oh. My. Fensler. How the fuck have I never seen those before? I blame you people for keeping them from me. That was amazing. posted by Rock Steady at 9:34 AM on April 23
shmegegge--you never watched the cartoons as a kid, did you?
of course I did. I've yelled "Cobraaa lalalalalalalalalalala!" with my friends often enough that it's now sufficient to get a laugh from any of us whenever one of us does it, regardless of context. I'm just saying, that as a retread that's supposed to improve on the old show and entertain an older audience, it still kinda sucks.
I loved GI Joe as a kid and all, but its entertainment value for me now is purely nostalgic. It wasn't actually a good show. posted by shmegegge at 9:38 AM on April 23
Does anyone have a link to that post from the original (now defunct) Warren Ellis Forum where he ripped on fanboys who were still into Thundercats? posted by Halloween Jack at 9:42 AM on April 23
Dear Mr. Ellis --
I enjoyed Transmetropolitan.
Ignition City, however, is a fun idea spoiled by pre-adolescent poop jokes and misogyny.
Please stop believing your own press.
Thanks,
A guy who buys comics
PS. I have not watched your take on GI Joe because it is impossible for me to care any less about GI Joe than I do now. posted by BitterOldPunk at 10:48 AM on April 23
I've seen all 10 that are up so far. They are pretty good. Ellis gives the characters and situations an edge that was missing in the 80's series. Are the situations recycled? Sure, but it's a reimagining of a pre-existing property, so it needs to still have some of the flavor of the original, or why do it at all.
It seems to me that it's a case of trying to make G.I. Joe for adults who liked the show back in the day, rather than for children, while still allowing for a sense of nostalgia for the original. An interesting choice.
I like the ninja sub-plot. posted by MythMaker at 1:02 PM on April 23
The reboot is pretty decent in my opinion. It does get better after the first episode. They're 4 minutes each. You're not making much of a commitment watching Episode 2.
Those Fensler PSAs are anti-funny to me. They are so profoundly stupid and annoying I cannot wring any enjoyment what-so-ever from them, and I am immediately suspect of anyone who says they actually find them funny.
One of my best friends is absolutely enamored of those Fensler PSAs, thinks they are pure genius. It has caused a long-standing wedge between us. When someone thinks "Hey kid, I'm a computer" is the pinnacle of comedy, I don't even know what to say.
Rock Steady, you must have had a down internet connection from 2003-2007. I seriously have no idea how you could have missed this. It was like "All Your Base" for a while. posted by Ynoxas at 1:23 PM on April 23
Those Fensler PSAs are anti-funny to me. They are so profoundly stupid and annoying I cannot wring any enjoyment what-so-ever from them, and I am immediately suspect of anyone who says they actually find them funny.
There is something very, very wrong with you. posted by Sys Rq at 1:31 PM on April 23
Sadly, it appears some humorless fuck has wiped the internets clean of Serpentor performing "Whoo-Hah! (Got You All in Check)." I assure you it is the only "re-imagined" GI Joe any of us need in our lives.
It seems to me that it's a case of trying to make G.I. Joe for adults who liked the show back in the day, rather than for children, while still allowing for a sense of nostalgia for the original. An interesting choice.
It's basically the last twenty years of mainstream superhero comics (and I thought it was supposed to be the boomers who wouldn't let go of their childhoods and let the kids have a turn, amirite?). I haven't watched this yet, but recycling the animation just sounds cheap and lazy, even if it's supposed to be ironic; I'd be a lot more psyched if they'd made something new.
I want to say re: Ellis that though his style and his tropes become...uh...familiar very quickly, I don't think he's a bad writer at all. I'm not even sure he believes his own press. He can be a very good writer. It's mostly his fanbase that tends to annoy me. Often, they seem to annoy him, too; I'm sure that he understands. posted by kittens for breakfast at 3:41 PM on April 23
Goddamn Adult Swim and their stupid-ass belief that Puerto Rico isn't part of the United States.
Is there anybody in the entertainment industry who passed a single fricking geography class in their lives? Morons. posted by Michael Roberts at 4:52 PM on April 23
DEAR MOTHER FUCKING US ONLY VIDEO STREAMING WEBSITES
JUST LINK TO THE ACTUAL DAMN VIDEO ON YOUR CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL ALTERNATIVE WEBSITE
DO NOT JUST TELL US TO GO TO SOME OTHER SITE AND LOOK FOR THE VIDEO OUR GOD DAMNED SELVES
Also, K4B, I was gushing about Ellis because after all they hype I've read about Watchmen recently, I felt there was one comic writer that was much more deserving of praise and, dare I say it, adaptation than Moore... and I wasn't sure everyone had heard about him. I have gotten many hours of pleasure reading his works. I agree he gets old quick, sometimes. Stiil, if hollywood can't pull 4 or 5 movies from just the Mike Gravel character alone, they deserve to die horribly.
That said, I HATED the last installment of Resolute. I think the only juvenile holdover from the old series is that these faceless cobra grunts are still following stupid orders blindly. Oh, Cobra base inside a shopping mall, yeah great. Retractable roof hiding anti air missles, sure, and I bet the Baroness put on a gold jacket and went all Century 21 to aquire them. But fuck, the Joe team pretty much killing... how many thousands to save what... Washington, DC? posted by Catblack at 6:08 AM on April 26
What the hell was the deal with the so-called "Seven Steps" in the ninja episode (which was pretty much a throwaway bit of intrigue)? The Sixth Step enabled one to split a huge log coming one's way. I'm not a doctor or a physicist, but I'm pretty sure that would cause catastrophic damage and instant or quick death when applied anywhere above the waistline. The Seventh Step was a goofy series of blows that had to be timed and placed just so in order to cause death. Granted, I'm dissecting an imaginary animal, but I like my fantasy to have some degree of internal coherence even if the whole larger idea is unreal. posted by Burhanistan at 2:43 PM on April 27
What the hell was the deal with the so-called "Seven Steps" in the ninja episode (which was pretty much a throwaway bit of intrigue)? The Sixth Step enabled one to split a huge log coming one's way. I'm not a doctor or a physicist, but I'm pretty sure that would cause catastrophic damage and instant or quick death when applied anywhere above the waistline. The Seventh Step was a goofy series of blows that had to be timed and placed just so in order to cause death.
I figured it was just shorthand for seekrit knowledge. The sixth or seventh step aren't just individual techniques but represent whole levels of ability that are superior to the ones below them, like colored belts in karate or whatnot. posted by juv3nal at 5:19 PM on April 27
A bit like the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique in Kill Bill 2.
Apparently something assuredly lethal requires a nintendo-like code.
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