Is Southern Pride only acceptable when it comes to literary mutterings about Faulkner and O'Connor? I mean we lost a culture, suffered military occupation, our economy was ruined for decades and we had nearly 400,000 casualties (250,000+ dead). Can't a defeated people be a little fucking contrarian every once in a while?
Don't start none and there won't be none.
You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it… Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth—right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.
Friends, let this Klan go somewhere else where it will not do the harm that it will in this community. Let them sow dissension in some community less united than is ours.
Don't be dragging Mexico into this. They have their own problems.
and let's be clear -- slavery wasn't the only one
By that same logic blacks should not be offended by the Confederate Flag b/c slavery happened so long ago.
All I'm saying is, war is hell, it's no fun having all your stuff ruined, your children crying because there's nothing to eat, and your husband's off somewhere being shot at.
Not saying here that the South didn't deserve it-I'd consider it God's judgement over the issue of slavery.
Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether." [cite]
Why the complaints?
If I choose to display my 'southern pride' by, say, hanging a flag, would anyone like to suggest a flag design that would be ideal for showing that?
The US flag. It has fifty stars; one for each state. This includes the south.
"...and so in a few thousand years, I who regard you will also have sprung from the loins of African kings. Now I want you to tell me just one thing more. Why do you hate the South?"
'I don't hate it,' Quentin [the Southerner] said, quickly, at once, immediately; 'I don't hate it,' he said. I don't hate it he thought, panting in the cold air, the iron New England dark; I don't. I don't!
I don't hate it! I don't hate it!
... so let's go way back
To the ancient times
When there were no 50 states
And on a hill
There stands Sherman
Sherman and his mates...
And they're marching through Georgia,
- Marching through Georgia!
They're marching through Georgia
They're marching through Georgia
- We're marching through Georgia!
Marchin' through Georgia
and there stands...
The problem is that the people yelling this are significantly less likely to be shafted by the inevitable budget cuts than your own allies in the same states. Limbaugh Republicans 'round here generally have a buffer protecting them from the harms of poverty that funding attempts to alleviate. It is pretty much class warfare based electoral majorities.
If the states of the Confederacy...Well, you can stop right there. That's about as valid a political speculation as wondering what would happen if Santa Claus decloaked his secret workshop on the lip of the gateway to the hollow Earth and listed on NASDAQ. It's a supposition entertained by batshit wingnuts on both sides spoiling for a validation of prejudices that just don't reflect reality.
If the states of the Confederacy...
Well, this is another point of disagreement. I don't think that the government should be in the business of subsidizing any state or region. But I also think you are deeply full of shit when you equate federal government payments to qualifying persons and institutions to be equivalent to "subsidizing the South."
Well, there are only eleven former Confederate states, and those eleven states have seven Democratic senators
With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan—to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.
I know North Carolina was the last state to secede and the first state to be readmitted to the Union.
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