Youth Thai Soccer Team Found Alive!
July 2, 2018 12:19 PM   Subscribe

Missing Thai Youth Soccer Team Found Alive in Flooded Cave 9 Days After They Went Missing. After a desperate 9 days of searching, rescue operations finally reached the boys and their coach inside the cave. But their ordeal is not yet over - they still need to be removed from the cave. Dive teams are working around the clock, including the Thai Navy SEALs and experts from the US, China, Australia and the UK.
posted by agregoli (71 comments total) 17 users marked this as a favorite
 
It's an amazing story, hope everyone all gets out OK. They'll be pissed to have missed the World Cup.
posted by arcticseal at 12:24 PM on July 2, 2018 [2 favorites]


I've been desperately refreshing this story since they were reported missing, and today was such a relief to find they were all alive! The news kept saying they haven't heard any noises from them the entire time, so I was afraid they drowned at the outset. Still on pins and needles waiting for more news. They may not be able to bring any of them out until they've received medical care - and even then, they might have to be brought out underwater, with dive helmets. So terrifying.
posted by agregoli at 12:25 PM on July 2, 2018 [4 favorites]


What did they eat? I mean, really, this is the most disturbing thing about this episode. It brings back the childhood trauma that I had reading Tom Sawyer, and Injun Joe starved to death inside that cave.
posted by Midnight Skulker at 12:28 PM on July 2, 2018 [3 favorites]


Hopes were high for their survival in part because it was believed some of the boys had drinks and snacks with them in backpacks.
posted by agregoli at 12:32 PM on July 2, 2018


Jesus, that's harrowing. The picture of their poor little pinched faces! What an amazing accomplishment, for them and for their rescuers.
posted by Countess Elena at 12:47 PM on July 2, 2018 [1 favorite]


Ahhh that video! “We are coming. Many people are coming.”

Really didn’t think this would end well. So very glad it has.
posted by Catseye at 12:54 PM on July 2, 2018 [4 favorites]


I've been desperately refreshing this story since they were reported missing, and today was such a relief to find they were all alive!

Same. I audibly gasped and started tearing up at my desk when I refreshed cnn and saw that headline.
posted by littlesq at 12:55 PM on July 2, 2018 [2 favorites]


Hopes were high for their survival in part because it was believed some of the boys had drinks and snacks with them in backpacks.

It takes a long time to actually starve to death; honestly, I thought they had probably just been drowned. Wonderful news!
posted by thelonius at 1:08 PM on July 2, 2018 [2 favorites]


Depending on how cold it is, stationary humans can go pretty long without food, it's not far off the old mnemonic 3 minutes, 3 days, 3 weeks for air, water, food. And obviously water wouldn't be a problem here. But cave flooding stories almost never turn out well, I'm so amazed and pleased they found them alive.
posted by tavella at 1:16 PM on July 2, 2018 [2 favorites]


Well, yes, I, nor any official, were worried they would starve to death, thelonius. Fresh drinking water was the real concern, as the water in the cave and conditions in the cave could make them very sick.
posted by agregoli at 1:22 PM on July 2, 2018


Our NPS cave guide on the Wild Cave tour (think 6 hours of darkness, hard hat light only, coveralls, 9 inch high bell crawls, and mud and dirt) in Mammoth Caves National Park told us that there was a rescue effort for a boy that had wandered off the boardwalk or otherwise gotten separated from a boardwalk type tour. I don't recall how long he was missing, probably a matter of a day or two or even less. They found him because they finally heard a repetitive clacking sound that turned out to be him hitting two rocks together. They praised him on the brilliant means of identifying himself but he said he was only doing it because the 'rushing noise' were deafening otherwise. The adults couldn't figure out what he was referencing since he wasn't near any underground river or air passage... then they realized he was either suffering from some sort of acute tinnitus or it was the sound of the blood pumping through his ears from being stuck in dead silence, underground for that long.

That tour, which I highly recommend if you are ever able to swing it, and a jaunt into the Cavernas de Jumandy (pay extra for the extended tour/exit, worth it), and exploring some tiny caves in the Hoodos of Yellowstone Natl. Park are the extent of my caving experience but it's a thrilling thing that has a definite above average risk factor tied to it.

I'm glad these kids are found, I hope their extraction goes well. Cave rescuers are a magical breed.
posted by RolandOfEld at 1:34 PM on July 2, 2018 [7 favorites]


A friend of mine had a cave rescue story. He was the first of a party to rappel down an entrance shaft to a cave floor. The guy after him fell. He was down there for hours, trying to give what first aid and comfort he could to a victim with broken legs and other serious injuries. Miraculously, there was a cave rescue class in the area, who had with them equipment for hauling an injured person, and they were reached and came to aid. If that had not happened, the guy who fell may not have made it - it would have taken another maybe eight or twelve hours to get a rescue team there.
posted by thelonius at 2:11 PM on July 2, 2018 [3 favorites]


This is not the way Pessimistic Me was afraid it might go. I'm very happy with the one tiny spark 2018 is giving us.
posted by Guy Smiley at 3:38 PM on July 2, 2018 [2 favorites]


I saw the newspaper cover with their faces on the tablet held up and the parents sobbing and welled up at the 7-11. My kid scored chocolate buns instead of a healthy snack out of that, and we spent the train ride to achool reading the whole story. I hadnt told her any of it earlier because I'd been scared it would end sadly. But all of them together! That coach is just 25 - this is the week he took care of all those boys and kept them together and alive in a frigging cave. However they got stuck in that cave, that they made it so long is no accident.
posted by dorothyisunderwood at 4:58 PM on July 2, 2018 [9 favorites]


Well, it took the finest cave diving rescue experts in the world over a week to get to where they are, which gives you an idea of how difficult the underwater traverses are. I can't imagine that they want to take untrained children through them. I wonder if they won't end up drilling an escape shaft from above.
posted by tavella at 6:15 PM on July 2, 2018 [5 favorites]


Yeah, trying something similar to the apparatus that rescued those Chilean miners, in 2013, has to come into consideration, right? I'm sure it's not a simple decision of course.
posted by thelonius at 6:33 PM on July 2, 2018


I was sure they were dead. Thank God for a little good news.
posted by praemunire at 6:54 PM on July 2, 2018 [1 favorite]


BBC update:
The Tham Luang cave complex in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand is regularly flooded during the rainy season which lasts until September or October.

If the children are to be brought out before then, they will have to learn basic diving skills.

But experts have cautioned that taking inexperienced divers through the dangerous corridors of muddy, zero-visibility waters would be a very dangerous operation.

Attempts to pump the water levels lower have so far not been successful.

If they are to wait until the water recedes by itself, it would mean the boys will have to stay in the cave for months and have to be continuously supplied with food and assistance.
Up to FOUR MONTHS underground. I can't even begin to imagine.
posted by Rhaomi at 10:25 PM on July 2, 2018 [6 favorites]


Cave rescue people on my twitter feed are saying that the rescue operation could realistically take up to four months. That's... Something.
posted by the duck by the oboe at 12:09 AM on July 3, 2018




Up to FOUR MONTHS underground. I can't even begin to imagine.

I can't help but think of 4 months on the international space station and, in pretty much every way, imagine the inverse. Except for the rations maybe.

View, nada. Climate control, nah, humid and cold. Radio communication, nope. Unobstructed view of sun, ha. Weightlessness, obviously not. Way home is up, not down.

I'm off to go research what the duration of longer, intentional no less, cave expeditons has looked like. Because we're approaching Journey To The Center of The Earth proportions here.
posted by RolandOfEld at 6:34 AM on July 3, 2018


I'd like to know how some day hikers came to be in such a volatile cave system in the first place. Not in a victim-blaming way whatsoever, I'm just interested. This place sounds like it needs a copy of this sign I saw in Vortex Springs, Florida. (I did not have to be told twice.)
posted by Countess Elena at 7:14 AM on July 3, 2018 [1 favorite]


From one of CNN's blurbs:
The 12 boys, members of the Wild Boars soccer team, and their 25-year-old coach, had explored the cave before.

Popular with tourists, it's a place locals know well. For the first kilometer (0.6 miles) or so inside the cavernous entrance, limestone rock formations hug high ceilings, creating an almost amphitheater-like atmosphere.

Deeper inside, the passages narrow into places the locals warn it's not safe to go.

For reasons unknown, the boys and their coach ventured on, deeper into the cave network, past signs that warn people not to enter during the rainy season, which usually begins in July.
So I think the key information is that there's parts of the cave that are perfectly fine to explore, even in the rainy season.
posted by vibratory manner of working at 8:50 AM on July 3, 2018


I had been struggling to understand why they haven't started drilling down to where the group is, like they do for trapped miners. Apparently there are several big problems preventing that. First, it takes large heavy industrial equipment to drill through half a mile of rock, and the area that the group is underneath is wild and thickly wooded. So they would need to build roads just to get the equipment in place. And second, you need almost flawless survey info to even map out where a particular chamber is, in relation to the ground above--the cave hasn't been surveyed since the 80s, and they don't have confidence that they could drill accurately right now. They're talking about the possibility of using new tech to pinpoint the chamber location from inside, but it seems this hasn't been done yet. The group is also huddled in a fairly small space, which would really add to the difficulty.

They were OK foodwise for the first nine days because many boys had carried in snacks and drinks. They went so far into the cave that it takes 6 hours to get from the entrance to where they are. Part of that journey is a (now flooded) 30 meter shaft small enough that a person would need to crawl through it. There isn't even enough space to wear a SCUBA tank, and continuous rain has created a layer of "squelchy mud" at the bottom, several inches thick.

Rescuers have now pumped out 128 million liters of water and dropped the water level by 15 inches, but rain is about to begin again. While he CNN articles linked here have used the phrase "if the boys can't swim," the BBC has plainly stated that none of these boys know how to swim.
posted by heatvision at 3:15 AM on July 5, 2018


Also, air pressure is one of the things protecting them in their bubble, keeping the water level lower than it might be otherwise. So I'd think they might be worried that bringing in a lot of heavy equipment above them might open up fractures in the rock even if they are drilling into a different chamber, along with the impact of the drilling. Doesn't take a very big fracture to let air seep out.
posted by tavella at 9:05 AM on July 5, 2018 [1 favorite]




Gave his life selflessly helping to comfort and rescue those terrified children. RIP.
posted by thelonius at 9:04 PM on July 5, 2018 [1 favorite]


Thai cave rescue could happen 'today or tomorrow', diver says

Rescue teams are racing against time amid worsening weather and lowered oxygen levels in the underground complex.

Thai navy Seal commander Arpakorn Yookongkaew said there was a "limited amount of time" to reach the boys and their coach.

"At first we thought that we could sustain the kids' lives for a long time where they are, but now, many things have changed."

posted by agregoli at 8:17 AM on July 6, 2018 [1 favorite]




I'm strangely touched by the random ideas I've read on Twitter for saving the boys. Someone who says he's an anesthesiologist offered his services to anesthetize each of them, because then they won't panic and won't consume as much oxygen while they're being transported. Someone writing in Japanese drew a pen-and-paper sketch of what appeared to be a giant dryer vent duct being snaked in so that they could crawl through the tunnel. I am not here to tell you that these are good ideas, but at least the giant human flesh search engine is trying to help for once.

A "kid-sized submarine" sounds like some Jonny Quest-ass nonsense, but, I mean, the man put his own car in space, and here we are, so ...
posted by Countess Elena at 5:21 PM on July 7, 2018 [4 favorites]


There's apparently a lot of activity at the cavern entrance the last hour or so, including the clearing of press and the arrival of American divers. Rumor has it the oncoming rains are forcing them to attempt to rescue at least four of the kids imminently.

Musk has been talking up the child-size "submarine" case being built for a possible rescue, but it's unlikely to be used in this attempt given the extremely tight timeframe required for construction and shipment to Thailand.
posted by Rhaomi at 7:51 PM on July 7, 2018


Rescue mission is underway, governor confirms

The rescue mission has begun, the governor has confirmed at a press conference this morning.

18 divers have been sent into the caves to retrieve the 12 boys and their football coach. The 13 people inside the cave have been informed and are ready and their families have been informed.

Medical teams have been rehearsing for three days and are ready to treat the group when they emerge.
posted by bluecore at 8:38 PM on July 7, 2018


This is what they've been strongly suggesting would happen, for a few days - they were going to have to just try the diver rescue, no matter the risk, because the other options failed.
posted by thelonius at 9:23 PM on July 7, 2018


Here hoping it goes well, on tenterhooks here.
posted by arcticseal at 2:36 AM on July 8, 2018


From The Guardian's live update thread:

First two boys have been rescued, local officials tell Reuters

The first two members of the Thai football team have been rescued, a local rescue official told Reuters.

“Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave,” said Tossathep Boonthong, chief of Chiang Rai’s health department and part of the rescue team.

“We are giving them a physical examination. They have not been moved to Chiang Rai hospital yet,” Tossathep told Reuters.
posted by bluecore at 5:06 AM on July 8, 2018 [5 favorites]


So four boys out, and operations are reported to be resumed in approximately 9 hours!

Here's a very good quick explainer / visualization of the cave and rescue logistics via @KellyCanuckTO on Twitter
posted by taz at 8:10 AM on July 8, 2018 [3 favorites]


In addition to taz's excellent link, BBC has good graphics of cave depth and length to traverse, video of rescuer describing the issues. I almost wish I had not started following this story it's completely terrifying. So elated some rescued.

Years ago while attending college in Central Texas we used to go to these caves late at night for fun. It was completely stupid in retrospect, but so many did this. So many others just went along. The caves were on private property, so we trespassed on the land of probable gun owners late at night. So stupid. No one told anyone when they were planning to do this, usually it was a spur of the moment decision. It was pre-internet, pre cell phone, the way to get there was like a weird scavenger hunt: take 50 steps NW from large bolder, stuff like that. It was a secret adventure.

And then it was just a hole in the ground you could easily fall in and break a limb or neck. We would lower each other down, you needed at least 3 of each other to get in and out. We had flashlights, no ropes, that was the extent of our safety and preparation. We would crawl through parts on our bellies to the big open room and then sit there for hours drinking cheap beer. The last time I did it we had trouble pulling each other out of the hole because it had started raining hard, and the walls were soft and muddy, you couldn't get a grip. We just kept sliding back down into the hole, onto hard rock, into rising water. We didn't hear the rain or thunder at all while under! We didn't see the water raising at our exit.

I remember I was usually the one who refused to go deeper into the cave, while still completely ignorant and full of youthful immortality, there was a point where the idea of getting disoriented was terrifying. The silent, sudden rain, the difficulty getting out was it for me, this was the last time I did this kind of thing.

I mean no judgement to this group. I imagine what started as fun and adventure turned as the water rose and they had to choose the dryer directions, which pushed them further and further in. I remember from my own experience of only being maybe 50 feet away from the entrance we couldn't hear hard rains at all. It's like being on another planet.

I can remember telling myself to stay cool while trying to get out of that muddy hole. Don't panic. The threat that I might not be able to get out was right there. Those poor kids, none of whom can swim, must be telling themselves that for hours, days, weeks.

Please. Please I hope they all make it.
posted by dog food sugar at 9:43 AM on July 8, 2018 [14 favorites]


Wow. Looking at that link for the 2-divers to 1-kid plan brings back the cave diving posts and other videos I've seen on the subject. Moral of the story is that the cave diver rescue crews are really unbelievably brave to attempt this for multiple reasons:

1) It's cave diving. Literally one of the least forgiving activities humans can undertake. One failure without an immediate redundant piece of kit and you probably die.
2) One mistake in judgment and you probably die.
3) It sounds like visibility in this situation, unlike some cave dives, is near zero.
4) Not only are the kids untrained in cave diving, obviously, but they aren't even scuba trained and, seemingly can't even swim.
5) The kids sound like they're stable medically but are unlikely to be anywhere near 100%.
6) Divers have died in caves even while trying to get other diver's corpses out, the margin for error only gets thinner the longer this has to go on.

I mean, what I'm getting at is that any one of those things makes this a rescue that would already be well into the holy-shit-this-is-like-an-action-movie plot but altogether it's literally a case where not only are these kids putting their life into the hands of their rescue diver pair but the opposite is also a bazillion percent true: each diver is absolutely putting his/her life into the hands of the kid in their charge until they hit the surface. If that kid panics then all three of them could easily die, tangled up in rope and in total darkness, right then and there and the remainder might well be doomed as well.

I'm not one for prayer but if you are this would be a good time.
posted by RolandOfEld at 4:57 PM on July 8, 2018 [7 favorites]


dog food sugar, I'm so glad you got out of that business. Caves are just so alien. I like messing around in small or abandoned places, but only the ones that were at some point intended to have humans in them. I cannot imagine crawling through tiny spaces from blackness into blackness, with no guarantee that there isn't a six-inch dead end or possibly a fathomless sinkhole directly in front of your face. These are some tough, tough kids.
posted by Countess Elena at 5:13 PM on July 8, 2018


Today's Guardian liveblog link - 5th and 6th boys rescued.
posted by oh yeah! at 4:35 AM on July 9, 2018 [2 favorites]


Eight boys in total now confirmed rescued. Looks like the rescue operation may have stopped for the day again.

The media coverage is suggesting that there are concerns about the boys being potentially exposed to infection inside the cave, so their parents are not yet able to see them in hospital. I hope that's resolved well soon; I can't imagine what they're going through.
posted by Catseye at 6:33 AM on July 9, 2018 [1 favorite]


Meanwhile, the boys' school is not missing a teaching moment here: "You never know when you will need your English."
posted by Countess Elena at 9:01 AM on July 9, 2018 [5 favorites]




@Matrixity: Mae Bua Chaicheun is a rice farmer. Her rice paddies were destroyed by the 130million liters of water pumped from the cave in the rescue mission. Her response:”Children are more important than rice. We can regrow rice but we can’t regrow the children.”
posted by rhizome at 9:18 PM on July 9, 2018 [8 favorites]


newest Guardian live thread.

9th boy confirmed out. Unconfirmed reports the 10th is out too. They're going for all the remaining boys and the coach today.
posted by bluecore at 2:39 AM on July 10, 2018


I appreciated this article about the coach.
posted by heatvision at 3:41 AM on July 10, 2018 [3 favorites]


They are all out!
"It's official: All 12 boys and their coach rescued from the cave, are safe"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-10/thailand-cave-rescue-live-blog-operation-continues/9962796
posted by freethefeet at 5:06 AM on July 10, 2018 [7 favorites]


@rhizone: Would love to start a GoFund me page for them.

I can't believe everyone is safe! I haven't been able to breathe properly for the last couple of days. The boys are amazingly resilient and I salute the brave rescue team. And rest in peace Saman Guna.
posted by dostoevskygirl at 5:24 AM on July 10, 2018 [1 favorite]


Yay!!!
posted by carter at 5:24 AM on July 10, 2018


YAYAYAYAYAYAY!
posted by taff at 5:24 AM on July 10, 2018


Amazing news. What a testament to the helpers and to the indubitably good side of human ingenuity.
posted by mosst at 5:25 AM on July 10, 2018 [4 favorites]


I really needed to hear something positive in the world. And I'm so glad that they survived. Here's hoping the next phase of their recovery is just as positive. I imagine there's still quite a bit of health/emotional/mental stuff to work through for them and their families.
posted by Fizz at 6:08 AM on July 10, 2018 [5 favorites]


Mae Bua Chaicheun is a rice farmer. Her rice paddies were destroyed by the 130million liters of water pumped from the cave in the rescue mission. Her response:”Children are more important than rice. We can regrow rice but we can’t regrow the children.”

These folks need to be compensated for their sacrifice - they sound like they might be kind of ruined by this.
posted by thelonius at 6:25 AM on July 10, 2018 [7 favorites]


I wonder if Elon Musk would do anything to help Mae Bua Chaicheun and people like her. Maybe he is still busy on the bird website, chatting about how cool the kid-sized submarine is gonna be.
posted by reseeded at 6:36 AM on July 10, 2018 [3 favorites]


It's confirmed that the three remaining Thai Navy SEALs and the Australian doctor have successfully left the cave. Time to celebrate!
posted by bluecore at 7:40 AM on July 10, 2018 [8 favorites]


It's confirmed that the three remaining Thai Navy SEALs and the Australian doctor have successfully left the cave. Time to celebrate!

Sorry, correcting myself here because accuracy is important: it appears (as far as I can tell) it was a Thai Navy medic with the other SEALs at the end, not the Australian doctor. Some publications were using medic and doctor interchangeably, so that might be the cause of the confusion.
posted by bluecore at 8:30 AM on July 10, 2018


These folks need to be compensated for their sacrifice - they sound like they might be kind of ruined by this.

They were allowed to apply for compensation, though I think the woman in the article chose not to.
posted by Melismata at 8:52 AM on July 10, 2018 [1 favorite]


Amazing news, I'm so happy they're all safe.
posted by rhizome at 11:27 AM on July 10, 2018


Apparently the doctor who was going in each day to confirm which kids were safe to go is both a certified cave diver and an anesthesiologist. Talk about a rare combination of skills, and exactly what you need when you are giving medication (apparently just beta blockers, but still) to young kids of varying sizes, in uncertain health, but you need them to work for 3+ hours while they exit the cave system. That is definitely a tricky dosage window.
posted by tavella at 11:37 AM on July 10, 2018 [6 favorites]


I'll just leave this here now that they're out and safe. Skip to 6:07 for (one of many) whoa moment.
posted by RolandOfEld at 12:30 PM on July 10, 2018 [2 favorites]


And that's in a cave without silt! In Tham Luang they were at zero visibility in those tight squeezes. Beta blockers or no, it's a tribute to the amazing fortitude of those kids that they were able to get through the diving portions without panicking.
posted by tavella at 1:06 PM on July 10, 2018 [1 favorite]


Why has this meant so much to me? Maybe it’s because no one involved seemed to count the cost. These boys were from poor families. The countryside is poor. There weren’t, so far as I know, any political angles that made them important. But the nation and the world’s experts pulled together, because they were worth it. At a time when my own government is openly arguing that children whose parents may or may not have complied with certain statutes are not entitled to humane treatment, it is a beautiful thing to witness.
posted by Countess Elena at 2:17 PM on July 10, 2018 [8 favorites]


It's a welcome example of giving a shit.
posted by rhizome at 2:55 PM on July 10, 2018 [4 favorites]


Countess Elena, you might find this article interesting- among other things, it discusses how the media is not allowed access to the children in detention on Manus and Nauru.

How imagery and media coverage influence our empathy for strangers Dan Crimston, The Conversation. 9 July 2018
posted by freethefeet at 4:04 PM on July 10, 2018 [1 favorite]


Just imagine coming out into the air and light after what, three weeks entombed in there? What a powerful symbol of hope. No matter what kind of brave face they put on, they had to have had to come to terms with the very real chance they'd die in the cave.
posted by thelonius at 4:59 PM on July 10, 2018


I can't imagine. Everything about it, and not to make light, but it's possibly the most baroque rescue I've ever heard of. The whole hike-disaster-discovery-rescue thing. No movie will be able to convey it.
posted by rhizome at 5:16 PM on July 10, 2018


According to Australian media doctor Richard Harris's father died just after the conclusion of the rescue operation. Damn.
posted by the duck by the oboe at 7:22 PM on July 10, 2018


The boys got invited to next year's edition of Gothia Cup, the world's largest youth football tournament. [source in Swedish]
posted by Vesihiisi at 12:47 AM on July 11, 2018 [1 favorite]


Stay classy, Elon Musk
posted by thelonius at 1:42 PM on July 15, 2018


I had a fascinating conversation today that tavegyl also influenced.

A close friend who is part Thai, part Buddhist, and was in Thailand when this was happening had a wonderful perspective. When I expressed sadness about the diver who died, she said as a Buddhist he died doing his destiny. He died helping others live, as he had for much of his life. He went there to do this exact task. He died delivering oxygen tanks along the way, he enable life along the route.

She also said that this particular cave has long history of spirits that may have influenced this event. Inside the Sacred Danger of Thailand's Caves covers some of what she was talking about. All caves are thought to have strong spiritual power as a place between worlds, in a part of the country that blends religious traditions, and struggles to balance a political discourse between an elite culture and a diverse populous.

This cave is under the mountains that cover the Thai-Burmese border. According to my friend some of these kids are immigrants of surrounding countries in turmoil in a part of the country that has long been a part of handling trauma and strife from multiple places and people. Some of these kids no long have a traditional homeland.

The translated name of the cave is "the cave of the reclining lady," named for a princess who per legend committed suicide over her love for a commoner (tavegyl's link upthread). According to the myth her lover was killed by her father's soldiers. She was hiding there, waiting for him, pregnant. When he never returned to her she killed herself and her blood became the river, her body became the mountain. The cave was thought to represent her genitals, still potent with maternal power.

There is a strong spiritual side to this event. A Thai monk Phra Khuva Boonchum lead prayers and predicted the boy's being found and surviving, had been allowed to enter the cave during the rescue to pray and is considered an important part of the rescue. Anyone have any more links in this direction I hope you'll share them.
posted by dog food sugar at 7:45 PM on July 15, 2018 [6 favorites]


this morning I passed by a huge LED news tickertape that was running the words "called rescuer a 'pedophile'" while I had just taken in the news from the Putin/Trump meeting, and it was the two-thousand-eighteeniest moment yet
posted by Countess Elena at 1:49 PM on July 16, 2018 [3 favorites]


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