October 3, 2002 8:23 AM   Subscribe

Revealed! Who's REALLY been dipping into your stash!
posted by adamms222 (31 comments total)
Hah, classic. Although, someone does appear to have too much time (and dope) on their hands.
posted by Dark Messiah at 8:30 AM on October 3, 2002

It better not be this guy.
posted by oh posey at 8:33 AM on October 3, 2002

Those Germans, they'll laugh at anything . . .
posted by jeremias at 8:40 AM on October 3, 2002

Damn hippies.
posted by sharksandwich at 8:56 AM on October 3, 2002

Server's been MeFi'ed. Is there a mirror anywhere?
posted by Ufez Jones at 9:07 AM on October 3, 2002

Europeans are simply adorable.
posted by aeiou at 9:27 AM on October 3, 2002

Okay, i guess it's hit or miss, b/c it worked this time. Cutesy in a stoned lego guy kind of way.
posted by Ufez Jones at 9:48 AM on October 3, 2002

I want to offer this link as a warning to Americans traveling in Europe. Notice how these lego men roll the joint. If someone offers you what in the US would be a decently smokable roach in exchange for that 4 pack of Tennant's "homeless killer" beer that you're trying to get rid of, what you'll actually get is mostly a heavy paper "filter" thing with a bit of tobacco packed into the end. If you're lucky there will be a dusting of dirtweed in it too. I'd recommend eating the faux roach and hoping that there's enough resin to kill the taste of the beer.
posted by putzface_dickman at 10:19 AM on October 3, 2002

i've heard other interesting things in regards to europeans smoking the dope:

here in the good ole US it's commonplace when smoking with a group of people to take your hit and pass it on. usually you'll see the smoke three or four (or more!) times. word has it, though, that europeans sip till they're done, then pass, not expecting to get the spliff back. weird. interesting.
posted by carsonb at 10:39 AM on October 3, 2002

true carsonb. When the French want to impress their American friends with their hipness they may suggest that the group "fument a l'americain" (silent "nt" on that fument) and follow the quaint american custom of passing after each inhale.
posted by putzface_dickman at 10:45 AM on October 3, 2002

As a European, I guess I need to add some balance to this debate. The issue with how people smoke dope this this part of the world is probably quite dependant on the quality of the product. We don't see much grass in Europe, mainly hash. I understand in America it's the other way round. As am sure you all are aware the two types of dope have different hits.

In some parts of Europe (read France) dope smoking is now pretty much the norm. It's had not to get on a metro in Paris without fighting your way through a thick cloud of fragrant blue smoke. Here in the UK we now have a few Dutch-style cannabis cafes.

With this level of openness and acceptance in this part of the world it could be that people treat smoking a joint as no different from a cigarette and without the ceremony.

That was thought provoking, I need a joint
posted by cohiba at 11:14 AM on October 3, 2002

As a dutch weed/hash smoker, i have to disagree. Me and my friends pass it on all the time. In fact most people i know do it this way. But of course our stuff is very high quality, so you need some fresh air in between... :-))
posted by SoulNoise at 11:28 AM on October 3, 2002

for me the question is not about how it is passed, but if there is a roach with weed in it. I don't know if that's a term in Europe, but in the US the roach is the last little bit of weed left in the joint. we don't put a rolled paper plug in the end, as a rule. Americans expect there to be weed from tip to tip of the joint, and we've devised different strategies and rituals for getting that last bit (such as roach clips and hemostat clamps). So cohiba, soulnoise, is there a paper plug in the mouth end of your joints? In the US one might even buy the last half inch of a jammie and get a nice buzz. In my experience, making this purchase in Europe would be a disappointment.
posted by putzface_dickman at 11:36 AM on October 3, 2002

Having just come back from a week in France, and hanging out with a fair number of Europeans here (who are in grad school with me) I've noticed the "smoke till your satisfied" practice. At first I thought these people were just individually rude, but then I realized that since they were all rude in the same way, it must just be a cultural practice. I much perfer the smoke and pass though, far more equitable.
posted by pjgulliver at 11:42 AM on October 3, 2002

Debbie: If I ever want a steroid freak baby, I'll call you.

Murphy: Yeah, well, he better keep his flippers off my stash.

From Sealab 2021
posted by nyxxxx at 12:31 PM on October 3, 2002

In Britain, the roach is the piece of paper/card that you use as the mouthpiece. It serves three purposes: to provide a better grip when rolling the joint in the first place and so allowing for a tighter roll, to stop you from getting bits of baccy in your mouth when you toke and to prevent you from burning your lips when the joint is nearly finished.

In general I would expect to employ a "universal 3-toke" system i.e. everyone takes 3 tokes and then passes on. Unless you're right down to the roach, when 4 tokes might be permissable as passing on a single toke is generally perceived as bad form.
posted by MUD at 12:38 PM on October 3, 2002

Oh yeah, and I'd generally call the rolling technique used by those Lego men to be a backflip, though I'd expect the excess paper to be lit at the roach end such that the flap burns off and lights the business end.
posted by MUD at 12:41 PM on October 3, 2002

I have German friends here in Canada that mix with tobacco with their weed too - barbarians! What the hell is the deal with that?
posted by Ch33ky at 12:46 PM on October 3, 2002

I'm with ya Ch33ky. Tobacco is so bad for you. It's especially criminal with that premium organic British Columbia back-to-nature kindbud you're bogarting up there.
posted by putzface_dickman at 12:57 PM on October 3, 2002

Well, but if you're a cigarette smoker anyway, it kills two birds with one stone (so to speak), and you tend not to get completely besotted immediately.

An interesting optical effect happened because the Lego guys spinned it up - you can't really tell from the photos how much bigger a european spliff is than an american joint - plenty of space for all the flammables, plus a nice civilized roach. Unfortunately, american papers are super-wide and not very long.

Still and all, it beats an alumimun foil pipe!
posted by DenOfSizer at 1:14 PM on October 3, 2002

Bogarting? I thought it was being shipped down there by the metric tonne!
posted by Ch33ky at 1:23 PM on October 3, 2002

I picked up the habit of sticking that paper filter in there after a trip to Amsterdam, where they had the cardboard pieces waiting next to the jar of rolling papers. Helps out a lot if you're passing around in a group - and someone has, uhh...really wet lips. Doesn't get soggy at all. This, of course, only happens when my bong stem breaks...
posted by hellinskira at 2:41 PM on October 3, 2002

What kind of madman would mix that great looking herb with something as vile as tobacco?

I remember people in Amsterdam looking at us like we were crazy when we rolled up joints with weed and hash mixed together. Several people warned us to take it easy or we might get too high. Too high, what a concept.
posted by Blubble at 3:28 PM on October 3, 2002

This may be just me, but I always keep some cloves around to mix in with joints. Mighty tasty.
posted by atom128 at 5:42 PM on October 3, 2002

When I smoked, my main friends were take one hit pass it and then there are some other groups i smoked with on occassion who smoked until satisfied/3 or more hits per turn. This is not a big deal unless you are second in line and take your one hit, not recognizing the circumstances, only to never see it return to you.

Ive seen people mix in tobacco when the weed is very potent and or scarce, to keep a joint burning longer.
posted by Recockulous at 5:46 PM on October 3, 2002

one of the more enjoyable experiences i've *cough* heard about was mixing a healthy amount of kind bud with honey flavored tobacco. now, i'm usually dubious about the various flavored tobaccos, but the folks who told me about this had a free sample of the flavored tobacco and said that it made one of the tastiest and most pleasant spliffs they've ever had.

the reasoning i've always heard in favor of spliffs over straight-up joints is that a joint is rather wasteful, what with all the un-inhaled smoke and difficulty in actually smoking (if the roller's not an expert), and a spliff helps counter that, while providing a better flavor (to each their own, though) and a longer smoke.
posted by carsonb at 6:08 PM on October 3, 2002

I admit a preference for joints rolled with the paper filter at the end...which saves the need for paraphernalia and you can just toss the end when you're done...guilt free. :) I learned it in Holland, and I must say, the filter helps you get a uniform shape and size as well. Which is nice.

As to mixing anything with tobacco, that's how I was taught to smoke hash if you're smoking it in joint...makes it burn easier and makes the smoke a little less harsh. I've never seen it done with just weed though. Learn something every day I suppose. :)
posted by dejah420 at 6:40 PM on October 3, 2002

CLOVES Geezus, wouldn't that like rip your lungs out through your tear ducts? I mean, a clove is just nasty to eat, let alone burn!
posted by five fresh fish at 9:49 PM on October 3, 2002

Too high, what a concept.

Well, I've never been a fan of suddenly realising that I've been zoned out, silently staring at nothing for an hour or so. And, of course, a sudden influx of particularly strong hash does increase the risk of pulling a whitey. But them's the risks you take...
posted by MUD at 1:33 AM on October 4, 2002

I've never smoked a clove cigarette but I have heard they can be quite tasty.
posted by Recockulous at 2:54 PM on October 4, 2002


one pinch/one toke. no waste.
posted by aiq at 7:34 PM on October 5, 2002

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