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July 10, 2006 2:18 PM Subscribe
Reuters is reporting that Zidane was called a "dirty terrorist" prior to the headbutting.
posted by TetrisKid at 2:31 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by TetrisKid at 2:31 PM on July 10, 2006
Not as good as the NES recreation of Game 6 of the '86 World Series. That one required serious work.
posted by dw at 2:38 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by dw at 2:38 PM on July 10, 2006
The Les Misérables background audio makes it all worthwhile
posted by WetherMan at 2:41 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by WetherMan at 2:41 PM on July 10, 2006
see also:
Zidane Wants Candy
Zidane Saves Materazzi's Life
...well, you get the idea.
posted by jcruelty at 2:50 PM on July 10, 2006
Zidane Wants Candy
Zidane Saves Materazzi's Life
...well, you get the idea.
posted by jcruelty at 2:50 PM on July 10, 2006
Sorry, that should have been:
Zidane Wants Candy
Zidane Save's Materazzi's Life
posted by jcruelty at 2:52 PM on July 10, 2006
Zidane Wants Candy
Zidane Save's Materazzi's Life
posted by jcruelty at 2:52 PM on July 10, 2006
what the?!?! my html skillz are not leet. i won't even try again. [quits the internets]
posted by jcruelty at 2:53 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by jcruelty at 2:53 PM on July 10, 2006
hit up the sa forums for the rest of these, btw.
posted by puke & cry at 3:04 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
It's great that we have this global internet to put the proper perspective on the incident.
posted by scottreynen at 4:03 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by scottreynen at 4:03 PM on July 10, 2006
The Daily Mail is reporting that the remark was that Zidane was the "son of a terrorist whore."
posted by TunnelArmr at 4:39 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by TunnelArmr at 4:39 PM on July 10, 2006
Why can't a newspaper spell the word "nigger" if in fact that is what someone said? Good lord, are we a bunch of children? I thought the Europeans were supposed to be better about all of this.
That being said, Zidane is my new hero.
posted by xmutex at 4:51 PM on July 10, 2006
That being said, Zidane is my new hero.
posted by xmutex at 4:51 PM on July 10, 2006
I am loving the ytmnd meme to come out of this. I'm loving that there are two ytmnds on the front page here, too. :)
posted by frecklefaerie at 4:55 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by frecklefaerie at 4:55 PM on July 10, 2006
Here's a link to a video showing Materazzi (the headbuttee) doing what he does best. The effective and deliberate use of the elbow to crush the opponent's face is, well, innovative. Kinda gives you a hint as to what kind of guy makes a team captain snap in extra time in the World Cup final.
posted by clevershark at 4:57 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by clevershark at 4:57 PM on July 10, 2006
Kinda gives you a hint as to what kind of guy makes a team captain snap in extra time in the World Cup final.
Come on man. It's not Materazzi's fault Zidane went insane, no matter what terrible things he might have said.
posted by xmutex at 5:04 PM on July 10, 2006
Come on man. It's not Materazzi's fault Zidane went insane, no matter what terrible things he might have said.
posted by xmutex at 5:04 PM on July 10, 2006
If it wasn't for YTMND fads, I'd never give a rats ass about soccer. At least now there are a few dozen interesting avatars waiting to be made.
Regardless of what you think about Zidane, you've got to admit that was a fantastic headbutt. Then again, it makes me wonder how one can do something like that without impairing his own mental function via a tremendous concussion. Unless of course we can make some assumptions about Zidane's base cognitive levels ;)
posted by NeoSpud at 5:05 PM on July 10, 2006
Regardless of what you think about Zidane, you've got to admit that was a fantastic headbutt. Then again, it makes me wonder how one can do something like that without impairing his own mental function via a tremendous concussion. Unless of course we can make some assumptions about Zidane's base cognitive levels ;)
posted by NeoSpud at 5:05 PM on July 10, 2006
Typical French ponce - headbutting someone in the chest? Dude. The Glasgae kiss should be delivered to the bridge of the nose with huge, shattering, blood-and-snotters-ejecting force. Anything else is sheer, rampant homosexualism. Probably.
posted by Decani at 5:09 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by Decani at 5:09 PM on July 10, 2006
Kinda gives you a hint as to what kind of guy makes a team captain snap in extra time in the World Cup final.
Please. Please don't make excuses for that jackass.
posted by puke & cry at 5:10 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
Please. Please don't make excuses for that jackass.
posted by puke & cry at 5:10 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
if he really did say "son of a terrorist whore.", then I think Zidane didn't overreact.
I couldn't think of thing that could've set him off like that, but that would definitely do it.
posted by pez_LPhiE at 5:11 PM on July 10, 2006
I couldn't think of thing that could've set him off like that, but that would definitely do it.
posted by pez_LPhiE at 5:11 PM on July 10, 2006
First defender Marco Materazzi spoke in Italian - a language understood by Zidane who once played for Italian side Juventus - grabbed his opponent and told him 'hold on, wait, that one's not for a n***** like you.'
But she saw that as the players walked forward Materazzi said: 'We all know you are the son of a terrorist whore.'
Then, just before the headbutt, he was seen saying,: 'So just f*** off.'
The player is fiercely proud of his family’s Arab background - and his mother who struggled with almost no money to bring up five children.
According to reports in France, Zidane's mother is seriously ill at the moment and had to go to hospital on Sunday morning.
OK, now it all makes sense.
posted by Ryvar at 5:18 PM on July 10, 2006
But she saw that as the players walked forward Materazzi said: 'We all know you are the son of a terrorist whore.'
Then, just before the headbutt, he was seen saying,: 'So just f*** off.'
The player is fiercely proud of his family’s Arab background - and his mother who struggled with almost no money to bring up five children.
According to reports in France, Zidane's mother is seriously ill at the moment and had to go to hospital on Sunday morning.
OK, now it all makes sense.
posted by Ryvar at 5:18 PM on July 10, 2006
if he really did say "son of a terrorist whore.", then I think Zidane didn't overreact.
Yes he did still overreact. You can't do that in a game. You can call names if you want, but you can't assult some. You can ignore them like say an adult would. Or kick his ass in the parking lot after the game like some highschooler, but he fully earned his red card.
(said the guy issued his fair share of red and yellow cards)
posted by MrBobaFett at 5:40 PM on July 10, 2006
Yes he did still overreact. You can't do that in a game. You can call names if you want, but you can't assult some. You can ignore them like say an adult would. Or kick his ass in the parking lot after the game like some highschooler, but he fully earned his red card.
(said the guy issued his fair share of red and yellow cards)
posted by MrBobaFett at 5:40 PM on July 10, 2006
this debate on Zidane's winning header is awesome -- Zidane made soccer look like wrestling, or American football, and it finally found an American audience. maybe that's his true legacy, making soccer more friendly to US audiences still baffled by offsides and such (no offside in NASCAR, for fuck's sake).
interestingly, the Guardian has already retracted -- in print -- their lame web item from last night about the alleged racist slur, "But amid the whirlpool of rumour and counter-rumour surrounding the incident there was no suggestion it was due to a racist comment". ie, God bless them, they readily admit they make shit up -- you don't retract a story like that after just a few hours if you have a shred of evidence to support your initial claim
the Daily Mail story is even more hilarious, I love the alleged "expert, who can lip read foreign languages phonetically and translate with the aid of an Italian interpreter". a Brazilian TV station hired another alleged lip-reader (mind-reader?) who said Materazzi had something to say about Zidane's sister instead.
unless Zidane or Materazzi enlighten us, and they aren't really talking (they're both right, keeping the story alive makes the both of them look bad) I guess this will be very difficult to figure out -- in the footage you see Materazzi in profile, and you'd need a really tight close up to manage to read his lips, if it's at all possible to read lips without seeing the mouth, basically.
it certainly didn't work for me on a 42-inch plasma screen, but then I don't read minds -- the Daily Mail will never consult me, I guess.
as I said, go on, this is truly fun to read, between a celebration and another here -- the shameless, hypocritical attempts to try to justify a savage head blow by a world superstar (with a bad track record when it comes to body blows).
one assumes the Saudi who got stomped by Zidane in '98 was guilty of racial abuse, too (actually, as a Berber, I guess Zidane is technically whiter than a Saudi Arab, but who cares really).
see, the bottom line here is that in soccer, trash talk is not a foul, and a head butt is. until they change the rules, of course. maybe they'll do just that, in time for the next world cup -- Zidane should come back from retirement, then.
anyway this debate is fun, but not as fun as seeing the French celebrate at the Elysée this morning -- with the cup mysteriously missing. maybe Zidane had beaten the crap out the cup, too, who knows
posted by matteo at 5:53 PM on July 10, 2006
interestingly, the Guardian has already retracted -- in print -- their lame web item from last night about the alleged racist slur, "But amid the whirlpool of rumour and counter-rumour surrounding the incident there was no suggestion it was due to a racist comment". ie, God bless them, they readily admit they make shit up -- you don't retract a story like that after just a few hours if you have a shred of evidence to support your initial claim
the Daily Mail story is even more hilarious, I love the alleged "expert, who can lip read foreign languages phonetically and translate with the aid of an Italian interpreter". a Brazilian TV station hired another alleged lip-reader (mind-reader?) who said Materazzi had something to say about Zidane's sister instead.
unless Zidane or Materazzi enlighten us, and they aren't really talking (they're both right, keeping the story alive makes the both of them look bad) I guess this will be very difficult to figure out -- in the footage you see Materazzi in profile, and you'd need a really tight close up to manage to read his lips, if it's at all possible to read lips without seeing the mouth, basically.
it certainly didn't work for me on a 42-inch plasma screen, but then I don't read minds -- the Daily Mail will never consult me, I guess.
as I said, go on, this is truly fun to read, between a celebration and another here -- the shameless, hypocritical attempts to try to justify a savage head blow by a world superstar (with a bad track record when it comes to body blows).
one assumes the Saudi who got stomped by Zidane in '98 was guilty of racial abuse, too (actually, as a Berber, I guess Zidane is technically whiter than a Saudi Arab, but who cares really).
see, the bottom line here is that in soccer, trash talk is not a foul, and a head butt is. until they change the rules, of course. maybe they'll do just that, in time for the next world cup -- Zidane should come back from retirement, then.
anyway this debate is fun, but not as fun as seeing the French celebrate at the Elysée this morning -- with the cup mysteriously missing. maybe Zidane had beaten the crap out the cup, too, who knows
posted by matteo at 5:53 PM on July 10, 2006
Yes he did still overreact. You can't do that in a game. You can call names if you want, but you can't assult some. You can ignore them like say an adult would. Or kick his ass in the parking lot after the game like some highschooler, but he fully earned his red card.
I'm not so sure that the replay didn't come into play. Numerous announcers reported that the scene was on the jumbotron (though the bbc claims otherwise) and both coaches as well at the press conference. Fifa's statement on the matter doesn't actually deny it. They just say that the ref saw it, he didn't see it on replay and that he called it in on his headset. That card approximately five minutes to issue. If they didn't see it live, he totally didn't earn it. And if the stadium showed it then they went against FIFA rules (showing controversial plays on screen in stadium).
Also combined with the German midfielder getting carded the night before their match (after days to review it) and just coming out of a match-fixing scandal, it paints me mighty paranoid.
posted by dig_duggler at 6:35 PM on July 10, 2006
I'm not so sure that the replay didn't come into play. Numerous announcers reported that the scene was on the jumbotron (though the bbc claims otherwise) and both coaches as well at the press conference. Fifa's statement on the matter doesn't actually deny it. They just say that the ref saw it, he didn't see it on replay and that he called it in on his headset. That card approximately five minutes to issue. If they didn't see it live, he totally didn't earn it. And if the stadium showed it then they went against FIFA rules (showing controversial plays on screen in stadium).
Also combined with the German midfielder getting carded the night before their match (after days to review it) and just coming out of a match-fixing scandal, it paints me mighty paranoid.
posted by dig_duggler at 6:35 PM on July 10, 2006
if he really did say "son of a terrorist whore.", then I think Zidane didn't overreact.
Of course he did. Physical violence as a response to mere words is always an overreaction and never, ever justified. Only ignorant, primitive thugs behave like that.
posted by Decani at 7:01 PM on July 10, 2006
Of course he did. Physical violence as a response to mere words is always an overreaction and never, ever justified. Only ignorant, primitive thugs behave like that.
posted by Decani at 7:01 PM on July 10, 2006
Why can't a newspaper spell the word "nigger"
Newspaper? It's the Daily Mail, not a newspaper.
posted by Decani at 7:12 PM on July 10, 2006
Newspaper? It's the Daily Mail, not a newspaper.
posted by Decani at 7:12 PM on July 10, 2006
Yes he did still overreact. You can't do that in a game. You can call names if you want, but you can't assult some.
I agree. You just don't do that, regardless of what the guy said. I can sympathize with Zidane's emotions if the other guy really said something about his mother on the same day she went into the hospital, but he still has to control his actions.
but not as fun as seeing the French celebrate at the Elysée this morning -- with the cup mysteriously missing.
The only thing funnier is watching the Italians celebrate such a lame victory. It was an ugly game with a boring ending. I'm really baffled at how happy everyone is. At least we can finally put the 'beautiful game' cliche to rest. Bah.
I can see why the Germans are happy, though. At least the third place game was a good one.
posted by homunculus at 7:16 PM on July 10, 2006
I agree. You just don't do that, regardless of what the guy said. I can sympathize with Zidane's emotions if the other guy really said something about his mother on the same day she went into the hospital, but he still has to control his actions.
but not as fun as seeing the French celebrate at the Elysée this morning -- with the cup mysteriously missing.
The only thing funnier is watching the Italians celebrate such a lame victory. It was an ugly game with a boring ending. I'm really baffled at how happy everyone is. At least we can finally put the 'beautiful game' cliche to rest. Bah.
I can see why the Germans are happy, though. At least the third place game was a good one.
posted by homunculus at 7:16 PM on July 10, 2006
... because then everything will be right with the world. WE CAN'T GO ON LIKE THIS PEOPLE
posted by reklaw at 7:42 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by reklaw at 7:42 PM on July 10, 2006
When I saw that I decried Zidane's headbutt in much the same way as Decani. He shouldn't have done it (still, Materazzi is a wanker) but once one makes the decision to headbutt someone then one should just fucking go for it, in my humble opinion; a 'faux Glasgas kiss' never impressed anybody.
posted by ob at 7:47 PM on July 10, 2006
posted by ob at 7:47 PM on July 10, 2006
I don't think the game was ugly.
Italy played super defense after the first goal.
That headbut kind of came out of nowhere.
That skynews video really paints Marco Materazzi in shit light.
I'd like to know how someone found out what the guy said. Lip reading Italian can't be a big field.
and I wish I'd grabbed that gif, puke and cry.
posted by Busithoth at 8:01 PM on July 10, 2006
Italy played super defense after the first goal.
That headbut kind of came out of nowhere.
That skynews video really paints Marco Materazzi in shit light.
I'd like to know how someone found out what the guy said. Lip reading Italian can't be a big field.
and I wish I'd grabbed that gif, puke and cry.
posted by Busithoth at 8:01 PM on July 10, 2006
Italy played super defense after the first goal.
They were quite lucky not to get scored on. The French team clearly dominated the second half and both overtimes.
That headbut kind of came out of nowhere.
Exactly.
posted by pwedza at 8:32 PM on July 10, 2006
They were quite lucky not to get scored on. The French team clearly dominated the second half and both overtimes.
That headbut kind of came out of nowhere.
Exactly.
posted by pwedza at 8:32 PM on July 10, 2006
Yes he did still overreact. You can't do that in a game. You can call names if you want, but you can't assult some. You can ignore them like say an adult would. Or kick his ass in the parking lot after the game like some highschooler, but he fully earned his red card.
So violence is completely unacceptable in sports but off the field, it's okay? Way to keep your priorities straight!
posted by dhammond at 8:51 PM on July 10, 2006
So violence is completely unacceptable in sports but off the field, it's okay? Way to keep your priorities straight!
posted by dhammond at 8:51 PM on July 10, 2006
I'm sorry but you know what? Saying that violence is never justified is just weak. (It's actually much worse then that, but I don't feel like engaging in name calling.) It must be great to be so mature that you will allow any comment, no matter how completely out of line, go unchallenged. I suppose that you would stand there at your wedding and allow some jack-ass to stand up and insult your bride (or husband). At your mother's funeral? At your child's first school play?
There are times when hitting someone so hard that they fall down and choose to stay on the ground rather than get up and challenge you again is exactly the right thing to do. Not often, the rarer the better, but there are times when violence is in fact called for.
posted by oddman at 9:11 PM on July 10, 2006
There are times when hitting someone so hard that they fall down and choose to stay on the ground rather than get up and challenge you again is exactly the right thing to do. Not often, the rarer the better, but there are times when violence is in fact called for.
posted by oddman at 9:11 PM on July 10, 2006
Can we agree that the world cup finals is not a good place to flip-out and head-but someone? I think it kinda hurt his team.
posted by puke & cry at 9:48 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by puke & cry at 9:48 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
This is the best one I have seen, I think they should just stop after this one.
posted by wigu at 10:35 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by wigu at 10:35 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
The French team clearly dominated the second half and both overtimes.
This sure is something that people like to say a lot, especially talking heads on the television screen, but at the end of the second half and OT it was 1-1.
posted by xmutex at 10:42 PM on July 10, 2006
This sure is something that people like to say a lot, especially talking heads on the television screen, but at the end of the second half and OT it was 1-1.
posted by xmutex at 10:42 PM on July 10, 2006
and I wish I'd grabbed that gif, puke and cry.
It's still over there in the SA thread. But I ain't hotlinking there. nuh-uh.
posted by puke & cry at 10:49 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
It's still over there in the SA thread. But I ain't hotlinking there. nuh-uh.
posted by puke & cry at 10:49 PM on July 10, 2006 [1 favorite]
Yes he did still overreact. You can't do that in a game. You can call names if you want, but you can't assult some.
That's exactly right.
But we're only human. We do things we shouldn't do all the time. Even when we know so much better.
posted by dopamine at 11:10 PM on July 10, 2006
That's exactly right.
But we're only human. We do things we shouldn't do all the time. Even when we know so much better.
posted by dopamine at 11:10 PM on July 10, 2006
Damnit.
It worked in preview because it was in my cache.
posted by delmoi at 12:46 AM on July 11, 2006
It worked in preview because it was in my cache.
posted by delmoi at 12:46 AM on July 11, 2006
Bah, I say good on him. Materazzi is a douche, this is your last chance, just go for it. I think they probably still would have lost, so no big deal. Somebody gives me a purple nurple in the World Cup finals, I probably would have retaliated with a wet willy, but a headbutt to the chest (that makes your opponent look like a giant pansy for falling to the ground screaming) is fun too.
posted by antifuse at 1:06 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by antifuse at 1:06 AM on July 11, 2006
[the Guardian] God bless them, they readily admit they make shit up
Well, no matteo, they didn't really! they just sneaked in the correction without a word about it, unless I missed the editorial note. And in another article they inserted a few extra "if this account is true", but that article is still calling for a FIFA sanction for Materazzi, go figure.
the Daily Mail story is even more hilarious, I love the alleged "expert, who can lip read foreign languages phonetically and translate with the aid of an Italian interpreter".
Oh I love that one too. And it's so rich too, coming from the 'get all those dirty terrorist immigrants out of the country' Daily Mail!
It's one of those 'how rumours start' classics that should provide a media student with plenty of material, if not exactly original, at least more entertaining than most.
posted by funambulist at 2:08 AM on July 11, 2006
Well, no matteo, they didn't really! they just sneaked in the correction without a word about it, unless I missed the editorial note. And in another article they inserted a few extra "if this account is true", but that article is still calling for a FIFA sanction for Materazzi, go figure.
the Daily Mail story is even more hilarious, I love the alleged "expert, who can lip read foreign languages phonetically and translate with the aid of an Italian interpreter".
Oh I love that one too. And it's so rich too, coming from the 'get all those dirty terrorist immigrants out of the country' Daily Mail!
It's one of those 'how rumours start' classics that should provide a media student with plenty of material, if not exactly original, at least more entertaining than most.
posted by funambulist at 2:08 AM on July 11, 2006
An Amendment to Art. 55, Par. 4 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code (.PDF)
Dear FIFA, When? Where?
No Champion? A rematch? France awarded the cup? Italy banned from 2010?
posted by popcassady at 3:35 PM on July 11, 2006
Dear FIFA, When? Where?
No Champion? A rematch? France awarded the cup? Italy banned from 2010?
posted by popcassady at 3:35 PM on July 11, 2006
...or maybe not.
posted by popcassady at 11:28 AM on July 12, 2006
posted by popcassady at 11:28 AM on July 12, 2006
Damn, I really do have to wait another four years.
posted by popcassady at 11:29 AM on July 12, 2006
posted by popcassady at 11:29 AM on July 12, 2006
Zidane Headbut versus Planet [or Death Star] is the best I've seen.
The timing and the way he steps away as the planet [star] blows up is perfect.
posted by Rashomon at 2:01 PM on July 12, 2006
The timing and the way he steps away as the planet [star] blows up is perfect.
posted by Rashomon at 2:01 PM on July 12, 2006
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